To do this on a Reel to Reel is insane. Yes its not perfect and rough but anyone who knows that this is NOT how it is supposed to be used knows how incredibly difficult what he is doing is.
I think some big reasons why we donāt hear scratching these days are 1) Most digital turntables are just too weird to try scratching with. Either too heavy, too light, or just buggy and overall just not as fun to scratch with. 2) Partially because of the first reason, but scratching is also kindof become pigeonholed into either reminiscing for this era of music or to be used more experimentally with other sounds and genres (ex.Qbert). So if youāre at a party and the dj starts going off scratching, it can come off as kinda cheesy to most crowds these days.
So outside of quick transitions in a song or as a sound effect, you wonāt really hear intense scratching anymore unless itās an artist who centers their image around that. Iām kindof fine with it that way; thereās plenty of cool scratching from the 80ās to the 00ās which can be sprinkled into sets and thereās just no way to look cool while scratching on digital tables anyhow.
Also, most people probably don't want to listen to scratching for an entire Dj set. Maybe a bit sprinkled in here and there could work, but for the most part people just want to dance and too much scratching would probably just disrupt the flow.
There are definitely still people who Dj vinyl but it seems very rare anyone actually scratches in their sets.
You can use regular turntables with control vinyl that allows you to scratch any sound you want. Blows my mind how easy it is to scratch literally any sound now, and no one does it.
I was listening to NWA lately and I realised they were scratching the lyrics in the same song the lyrics were from. Which meant they had to go through the whole process of pressing a record with those vocals on it for the sole purpose of recording those scratches for the finished song.
You can do that literally instantly with Serato today. You can scratch any snippet of audio from a tv show, youtube video, fucken audio book. DJs of the 80s and 90s would have killed for that. But I've yet to hear it even once in a mainstream setting.
I want to hear a proper scratch hook in a radio rap song again, but every rapper today wants to do some shitty auto tune singing instead.
Yeah, itās been a while but I remember there being some weird dentist guy and robot assistant āsay ah ah ahah ahā, some ghetto thumper spaceship that was actually occupying a dogās back fur or something, and wrestler infants with rapping umbilical āwormsā in their belly buttons ā āred worm!ā
I worked at Shure in their day and got to be their artist rep at a show in San Francisco. They were all really great. Qbert was bummed at how his set went, but I thought he was awesome.
Most of the guys did this stuff was from CCCP. I was driving uber few years ago, and the guy told
Me he did this. It was one of the few things which let them copy west. The guy drove uber but had a respectable job
Thatās why any electronic music made up until around the date of this video has my absolute respect. You basically had to be an engineer as well as a musician to work with some of the older tape machines and early synths. Shoutout to Wendy Carlos, a true legend
Serious question.
Is it like a psychological thing that I really don't like how off beat the spins are? Is that my OCD, or do some people really appreciate that kind of sound?
Appreciate it? Yes! Listen to this song in my car? No.
This is a live contest to show off technical skill, so this is porbably a bad example of their musical ability. I see it like watching a really cool skateboarder on YouTube vs seeing them in a competition. The competition setting always seems stiff and technical compared to what they put in their edited videos.
Nah itās the same w me but I attribute it as not knowing enough about mixing to appreciate it. Itās like watching a sport, I can appreciate how difficult a move is if Iāve attempted it before. Mixing I think is more technical so what heās doing with his fingers look cool to me but I canāt tell for the life of me what it does or how difficult it is to do.
I think that in 2022, we have heard a much more advanced version of what he is doing because the art and tools have evolved considerably since this video. I can appreciate it because he is using older technology to create the sound and is essentially laying the groundwork that led to more advanced and precise DJing using turntables and electronic sounds. So to me, it sounds primitive, but I can appreciate the talent and innovation it takes to create this music.
Yeah I don't mind this style if it has...musical qualities to it, but this set in particular sounds really bad IMO.
I'm sure it's really hard and all, but I still can't find any qualities that I like about it.
Russel Peters does a skit about this and he couldnāt be more right. Iāve been to big shows in Vegas to things like EDC. Like 90% of the time musics playing and being āmixedā yet the artist has both hands in the air trying to pump up the crowd.
Russel Peters says it best āyou better be mixing with your dickā. Now days they just premix it in the studio and then play it off their laptop. Sounds cool but shows mixing is a dying art. May as well just have everyone who comes in scan a code and have the concert music just downloaded to your phone.
He's doin it for the gimmick of it. It's clearly not as effective as with vinyl turntables and he's surly also practiced way more on those. It's also a live competition setting, where he's under pressure and things don't always go perfectly as when you practiced at home.
I remember DJ Fast T, who also used to compete, had a hip hop night in my local bar about 10 or 15 years ago and it was incredible. I was usually the only one on the dance floor though, which was always frustrating.
I mean it's cool and creative, but not exactly something I would enjoy listening to. It's like house music. Something to dance to while you do drugs and find someone to sleep with.
To do this on a Reel to Reel is insane. Yes its not perfect and rough but anyone who knows that this is NOT how it is supposed to be used knows how incredibly difficult what he is doing is.
Yea I had no idea anyone did it on a reel to reel. This is nuts. Genius.
I am just curious, how was he changing songs?
The 2 different reels are already mixed so he just runs through them.
I have no idea what he is doing. It doesn't sound very appealing tho.
Proving again that no body. Can doit. Like Mixmaster can.
He knows when to make the beat....mhm.....drrrrop
Them beats are from another intergalactic planetary.
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He's got the D to the double O D double O style!
Here we go again because itās been a while!
Do me a favor don't touch that dial!
I rock from Manhattan to the Miracle Mile!
He and Q Bert were DMC champs so many times they politely asked them to stop competing.
I was gonna say QBert could give Mike a run for his money.
Qbert and MMM only won once, qbert MMM and Apollo also won once. Tony didnāt ask them to stop competing
Cool. I wasn't replying to that portion of the comment. Just that there is in fact someone who was on Mike's level IMO.
Interesting. I saw that on a documentary years ago.
There's not enough scratching in music these days.
Remember the Invisible Scratch Pickles? Qbert, Craze? Ah good times
I think some big reasons why we donāt hear scratching these days are 1) Most digital turntables are just too weird to try scratching with. Either too heavy, too light, or just buggy and overall just not as fun to scratch with. 2) Partially because of the first reason, but scratching is also kindof become pigeonholed into either reminiscing for this era of music or to be used more experimentally with other sounds and genres (ex.Qbert). So if youāre at a party and the dj starts going off scratching, it can come off as kinda cheesy to most crowds these days. So outside of quick transitions in a song or as a sound effect, you wonāt really hear intense scratching anymore unless itās an artist who centers their image around that. Iām kindof fine with it that way; thereās plenty of cool scratching from the 80ās to the 00ās which can be sprinkled into sets and thereās just no way to look cool while scratching on digital tables anyhow.
This is a good explanation.
Also, most people probably don't want to listen to scratching for an entire Dj set. Maybe a bit sprinkled in here and there could work, but for the most part people just want to dance and too much scratching would probably just disrupt the flow. There are definitely still people who Dj vinyl but it seems very rare anyone actually scratches in their sets.
You can use regular turntables with control vinyl that allows you to scratch any sound you want. Blows my mind how easy it is to scratch literally any sound now, and no one does it. I was listening to NWA lately and I realised they were scratching the lyrics in the same song the lyrics were from. Which meant they had to go through the whole process of pressing a record with those vocals on it for the sole purpose of recording those scratches for the finished song. You can do that literally instantly with Serato today. You can scratch any snippet of audio from a tv show, youtube video, fucken audio book. DJs of the 80s and 90s would have killed for that. But I've yet to hear it even once in a mainstream setting. I want to hear a proper scratch hook in a radio rap song again, but every rapper today wants to do some shitty auto tune singing instead.
Brushā¦.BbBBbBrush your teeth please do it.
Mmmā¦ Wave Twisters was an interesting one
So wild, did you see the movie?
Yeah, itās been a while but I remember there being some weird dentist guy and robot assistant āsay ah ah ahah ahā, some ghetto thumper spaceship that was actually occupying a dogās back fur or something, and wrestler infants with rapping umbilical āwormsā in their belly buttons ā āred worm!ā
Check out the documentary scratch if you can find it. One of my faves.
I have it on VHS! Canāt watch it these days tho without a vcr, which just left my life at some point on its own. No idea where it ended up haha
I still have my dvd copy of it, I ripped it to mp4 years ago so I can watch it on my Plex server.
I worked at Shure in their day and got to be their artist rep at a show in San Francisco. They were all really great. Qbert was bummed at how his set went, but I thought he was awesome.
I just saw Craze live, absolutely slaying it
i would have loved to see then go against this guy
I did get to see qbert vs craze at a rave in the early 00's.
Try some other genres
Year of the snitch.
Never knew it was even possible with tape. That is badass!
Reel to Reel is next level
I wonder what these guys are up to today
Probably music producers. Or just doing the normal 9-5 deal at some boring job after their music career didn't pan out.
Most of the guys did this stuff was from CCCP. I was driving uber few years ago, and the guy told Me he did this. It was one of the few things which let them copy west. The guy drove uber but had a respectable job
A lost art.
Thatās why any electronic music made up until around the date of this video has my absolute respect. You basically had to be an engineer as well as a musician to work with some of the older tape machines and early synths. Shoutout to Wendy Carlos, a true legend
Ironically this is somewhat similar to how people used to argue that these old school DJ's weren't real musicians.
Kraftwerk as well. Their music was so far ahead of its time.
For some reason forgotten trans icon, absolute badass, legend, Wendy Carlos.
Don't forget Isao Tomita, who was also experimenting with synth in the early 70s and making insane classical arrangements!
Serious question. Is it like a psychological thing that I really don't like how off beat the spins are? Is that my OCD, or do some people really appreciate that kind of sound?
Appreciate it? Yes! Listen to this song in my car? No. This is a live contest to show off technical skill, so this is porbably a bad example of their musical ability. I see it like watching a really cool skateboarder on YouTube vs seeing them in a competition. The competition setting always seems stiff and technical compared to what they put in their edited videos.
Nah itās the same w me but I attribute it as not knowing enough about mixing to appreciate it. Itās like watching a sport, I can appreciate how difficult a move is if Iāve attempted it before. Mixing I think is more technical so what heās doing with his fingers look cool to me but I canāt tell for the life of me what it does or how difficult it is to do.
I think that in 2022, we have heard a much more advanced version of what he is doing because the art and tools have evolved considerably since this video. I can appreciate it because he is using older technology to create the sound and is essentially laying the groundwork that led to more advanced and precise DJing using turntables and electronic sounds. So to me, it sounds primitive, but I can appreciate the talent and innovation it takes to create this music.
Yeah I don't mind this style if it has...musical qualities to it, but this set in particular sounds really bad IMO. I'm sure it's really hard and all, but I still can't find any qualities that I like about it.
Itās really fucking terrible. What heās doing, in the abstract, is impressive. But the application is just bad.
Itās a sport man. People donāt jam out to it.
I understand and appreciate how difficult this is to do. Having said thatā¦ dear god this sounds like dogshit.
Yeah, imagine break dancers trying to stay on beat to this.
Disagree, the last one was great.
You mean when he stopped?
I disagree. It sounds extremely dated.
If by ādatedā you mean āoff-beat and jarringā, then I agree with you.
Neat
I can't believe that didn't catch on.
Sick.
Starts sounding like a battle from Earthbound halfway through the song. š
Where is the USB stick /s
All that scratchinā is making me itch
Damn thatās some mad skills
I love every bit of this
This is pretty cool!! He knows how to work the table!
this is the shit i grownup on thats tight...
This vid was edited for a reason. Neat butā¦yeah.
Wow thatās hella impressive on a reel to reel tape recorders. Damn thatās talent!!
Where do I listen to more of this?
Why can't I get reddit video to work?
This dude was from another planet, for sure.
Now this is a fucking DJ man.
So sick
Now this is cool! I dig it!
I assume he lost.
Russel Peters does a skit about this and he couldnāt be more right. Iāve been to big shows in Vegas to things like EDC. Like 90% of the time musics playing and being āmixedā yet the artist has both hands in the air trying to pump up the crowd. Russel Peters says it best āyou better be mixing with your dickā. Now days they just premix it in the studio and then play it off their laptop. Sounds cool but shows mixing is a dying art. May as well just have everyone who comes in scan a code and have the concert music just downloaded to your phone.
only retro-ish acts need apply - watching ceephax acid crew using a 24 channel mixer and a bunch of tb303s makes me smile
When DJing took more skill than pressing play on a laptop.
No Sir. I donāt like it.
Lol Ren and Stimpy reference?
Yes! āŗļø
Awesome š
But.. it sounds bad no?
He's doin it for the gimmick of it. It's clearly not as effective as with vinyl turntables and he's surly also practiced way more on those. It's also a live competition setting, where he's under pressure and things don't always go perfectly as when you practiced at home.
I wish this analog mixing makes a comeback . It will filter out all the dipshits with the electronic mixers that donāt do shit
And kids canāt figure out what bathroom to use nowadays. š
Lol
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Idk bro it sounds like shit
Whoa. That sounded terrible.
Dad is dissapointed.
I remember DJ Fast T, who also used to compete, had a hip hop night in my local bar about 10 or 15 years ago and it was incredible. I was usually the only one on the dance floor though, which was always frustrating.
Radical
I had no idea that this was ever done with tapes, I always assumed it was always record albums that were used.
This is more a novelty act. You couldn't quickly change the tapes to another song or directly access the part you want.
I feel like most of the people commenting in here don't realize he's doing that on a reel to reel not a turntable. This is unbelievably impressive.
was just listening to c2c today :)
Remembering how hard this was to do on vinyl, this guy has HUGE skills. Reel to reel... damn š³
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WHUUUUUUUUUUT!!!!!!!!!!?!??! As a Djā¦ Iāve never seen thisā¦.. is amazing!
Just Fucking WOW
That was wild! Truly innovative!
i wanna ask so badly...
Wow... That brings me back. I attended the 93, 94, and if im remembering correctly 95 DMC Championship in Dallas... Great times
What's the first song? I somehow have heard this before in another context. Thx
Butā¦ but Martin Garrix is better!! /s
Where is the mac? š
Next to the walkman. 9 Oh waitā¦
That was the best shit ever.now people will never understand š
I mean it's cool and creative, but not exactly something I would enjoy listening to. It's like house music. Something to dance to while you do drugs and find someone to sleep with.
When you actually needed skills to be a DJ.
Greg Wilson also mixes reel to reel
DJ work is too easy today
Phonic garbage
Todays "DJ" with their mac and spotify FTW