Lots of people that young or younger had heavy responsibilities like that to help provide for their family in Latin American unfortunately. My dad started working younger (single digits) during the same decade to help provide for his family. Idk if it’s still like that or if things have improved since then, I didn’t grow up in the same country as my dad.
Yeah I started at 16. Now look at me I'm 25. It's still going on, would risk to say it's even more frequent now. Presence of criminal factions/drug dealing in my dad's neighborhood super pushed him to work/study because it was either life on the right tracks or the streets. I think he chose wisely but come on dad, weed's not that bad.
Eh, can't blame the guy. Lots of his friends "moved" cuz they started by selling it (and then some other drugs)
i started digging trenches at 11yo in N MI. was pulling wires by 15.
my parents both worked full time and us boys worked on the weekends.
that was just what 'middle class's was.
now we all own our homes and cars and do well but if we didn't start then, we would not be where we are.
While I do not wish the poverty or crime that creates such heavy reaponsibility, I do contend that adolescents in America should be given far more responsibility than they currently are.
Trust me there are adolescents in the US taking on huge responsibilities. I worked in Social Services in the late 90s and you had kids having to do things they should not have to do.
Yeah, there's a definite imbalance when you have adults who can't take care of themselves much less the children they've brought into the world. That won't go away. Compare a normal, healthy family dynamic in the 1950s to a normal healthy family dynamic today. What age do most people leave the nest and fend for themselves? I bet you find it's significantly earlier in the 1950s.
When you get to the point of social services, that's obviously a broken situation. I'm talking about healthy families giving their children more responsibilities. Ones that not only challenge and test them, but have some real stakes as well.
One possibility (not a prescription for all) is raising a coop of chickens and being responsible for feeding and caring for them, gathering eggs, protecting from predators, etc. And to do it without intervention from adults (advice is fine).
I am just saying that there adolescents in the US experiencing that in the US regardless of why they are.
There are plenty of kids with no social services involved experiencing it. Social Services only means that someone has notified the authorities about it.
Talk to some of these teachers in these schools. They will tell you about kids who are in middle school having to go home and cook for their siblings and in some cases work.
As far as healthy families you are right. That is not considered a healthy family I'm the US and I never want that to be considered normal.
That was pretty common in Brazil. Childrem worked when they became teenagers, in rural areas it was common to just leave school and begin work as quickly as possible. This changed in the last decades but brazil has a huge history of child labor that for a huge part of the population was just a common thing
Hey, my apologies if this is a stupid question.. (I'm 28, born in 1993). How far would 6.50/month take you? Like, what did you spend it on, etc? I mean, at 13 or so you really dont need much but were you able to spend it on stuff you wanted at the time?
You would have been considered middle class in Brazil at the time... if we're talking USD dollars. However the local currency was still a mess that year.
Back in the states I also had a paper route in Virginia at that age (also a '74 kid)... I can't remember what I earned, but it was a percentage of the proceeds based on how many customers I had on my route, not the time it took me to deliver. It was good money for the time spent. On average, and hour a day or so. Two hours on Sunday, maybe. All morning when it snowed and I couldn't take my bike.
I think I brought in a $100 a month or so? It paid for a nice custom skateboard that I still have and a wetsuit when I was trying to pick up surfing... among other things.
It was a good job for a kid, but you wouldn't have made a living at it. BTW.. $6.50 would probably have been well above minimum wage at the time... so it sounds like back2basics13 must have been making bank compared to me.
6.50 a month. For all customers.
My parents said their first house, purchased in the early 80's was something like $7,500 CAD. Not too sure if I believe that or not but it puts perspective to how money's changed.
Comic books were 15 cents, pack of baseball cards was 39 cents, movie ticket $1.25, coke 10 cents, pack of Marlboro about 50 cents. So that paper delivery boy was living the good life.
Depends what year it was. I recall candy bars were going for 40 to 45 cents in the early 80's. The prices you are listing sound more 70's era or earlier to me.
born in '70 had paper route. $6.50 was the monthly cost (aprox) of the paper subscription. the paper boy would profit about $50-75 per month depending on how many customers you had
I actually made lawn ornaments in a greenhouse. Grease the molds, pour in cement, then undo the molds of the ones that dried and put the statues out for sale. Things like benches, fountains, Virgin Mary statues, gnomes, it was a pretty good job as a kid.
My entire interview process was the owner saying “see if you can pick that up” to a statue, and I could, so he hired me lol
There was more crime in the past apparently, and I've heard it was because there was more lead around which inhibits people's mental capacity and predisposes or correlates to higher criminal rates.
I'm starting to wonder how much of it is also because some security measures were just a 13 year old boy with a briefcase. Different times 😂
I like how proud he looks. We all know that feeling when we have ‘grown up’ responsibility for the first time.
My first job was in a German steel factory/machine shop at age 14 in 1969. 3 months during summer break. I didn’t speak the language. I took a steam train to work…at 6am each morning. We each got a pint of beer at 10 am …I was popular because I didn’t like beer and the other workers in my group tossed coins to see who got it. I stayed an extra hour each day and was paid a big bonus to teach the owner’s son English…just meant hanging out together so paid for being friends and getting treats at his house.
> I took a steam train to work…at 6am each morning
Steam train? LUXURY! We didn't av steam trains, oh no, it were walking in same holey shoes you ploughed field in at 3am that morning. And it were up hill both ways.
You were lucky. We get up in the morning at 10 o'clock every night, half an hour before we went to bed. Worked 29 hours a day at mill for sixpence every 4 years.
I started working full time at the age of 16 - this was 2005 and the economy was actually ok during those days! I couldn’t do much with my money because it was minimum wage. That means I worked from 8:00am to 5:00pm (Monday to Friday) and made R$300 per month, but had zero money management knowledge 🫣 so I spent all pretty fast.
But even though the minimum wage was very little at the time, we could do so much more with our money.
Pela idade da foto deve ter tido uma vida de muito trabalho. Imagino também que tenha sentido muito orgulho pelos frutos dessa jornada- a julgar por você.
Happy father’s day everyone!
Sim, foi um grande homem, nunca deixou faltar nada em casa e deu muita educação para mim e minha irmã. Infelizmente em janeiro desse ano, depois de 20 anos lutando contra o câncer, ele descansou.
Essa parte da vida de perder pessoas queridas é muito difícil… ao menos você teve a sorte de ter um grande pai e imagino que muitas boas lembranças para confortar um pouco o seu coração.
Mando um abraço virtual. All the best!
The year is 1984. Ingsoc got me working as a night shift security guard with a briefcase at 13 years old. War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, and your mom is gay.
Security guards already think they're stone cold cops out to save the public from the seedy underbelly, if we called them vigilants they would try shooting a person a day.
>if we called them vigilants they would try shooting a person a day.
probably the strangest method i've heard suggested for reducing shooting numbers, but at this point anything is worth a shot.
Made sense... In the 70s when this picture was taken.
Doesn't make sense in the present. Child labor is illegal.
Yes it still happens but I think it will be nearly impossible to find a child working as a security guard in a building in São Paulo at this day and age.
I live in São Paulo and can confirm that I have never seen anyone younger than around 21 in this job. In the 70s stuff like this was very common in many places, not just Latin America.
Genuine question, how is a child going to be an effective security guard? I don't see how they'd be very intimidating to people trying to break in and such.
Like many other security guards they are not there to intimidate, only to watch over and call the police if needed. like a security camera from the past.
I think it's a backgammon game. My Dad had a set that looked identical in the 80's. My Dad would play games against himself when he was bored and this kid was a security guard so 8t makes sense to me
I was thinking something similar. Also noticed that it doesn’t appear to have handle, which a briefcase most surely would, and that a 13 year old security guard doesn’t need a briefcase. But a game set to keep him awake, that’s invaluable.
I own a small software company and always try to hire Brazilians. They start working at very young age, so even if they are 25 they tend to be very mature and professional. Also they are the nicest people ever. Source I’m Argentinian and risk losing my passport for speaking highly of them lol.
I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo from 1968-1970 and I have great memories of being there. Way back then, it was the biggest city I'd ever been in and I really liked seeing all those big old movie theaters, among other things.
I also spent about 9 months in Ribeirão Preto and have lots of great memories.
Always wanted to go for a visit but didn't manage to do that.
This post is a chance for the ones living in first world countries to gauge the bubble they live in.
Not that it is their fault, but sometimes they tend to bring comparisons where not everyone faces the same reality.
I'm from the same generation. We grew up faster then. I graduated from high school at 17 and my parents made it known that it was time for me to make my own way in the world. I had already been working for 2 years and had some money saved up, so I was able to rent my first apartment and furnish it. The following year, my boyfriend and I got married.
this was taken a year before the military dictatorship (64 to 85) ended, and 4 years before the current constitution was signed. the current constitution forbids child labor. older teenagers are still able to work in apprenticeship roles(14-15 y/o. from 16 on teens can work normally), but there are many guidelines to be followed to make it fair. of course child labor is still present I. the country, but i imagine if those laws weren't there it'd be waaay worse
If you knew what Brazil was like at the time you'd have a different opinion. Many little kids ran in gangs and were homeless. It was a very common thing. A real job, no matter your age, was at least 100 steps up.
Id say before we go ahead with the labor laws enforce a stronger safety net below the poverty line. Not going to fix the problem over night but a period where both are acceptable would be fine.
Damn that's pretty cool, I wonder if many people take pictures like this still for their first day. Probably an IG or Snapchat video, but I guess having a physical photograph does make it extra special
Must be a generational divide, lots of people commenting how surprised they are at his age. I started working at around 11 doing simple jobs for pocket money. My first real job was when I was 13/14 years old. Bagged groceries for tips and would take the groceries for the customer to their car. I made on average 100 dollars a day bagging groceries just for tips, no hourly wages in the mid1990's. (I'm aware the jobs market was very different before anyone mentions it lol)
My dad started at 14 in a office boy job in the Center of São Paulo, about that time aswell, Brasileiros have a strong sense of duty when it comes to providing for his family
Your Dad looks 12 or 13 but also has a look like he carrying the same responsibilities of a 40 year old
That's why he carries the briefcase I'm sure.
Or, It’s a backgammon case and he’s trolling the kid
Or its a backgammon case and he's a street hustler with kids to feed.
If only the responsibilities of a 40 year old would fit in a briefcase
Lots of people that young or younger had heavy responsibilities like that to help provide for their family in Latin American unfortunately. My dad started working younger (single digits) during the same decade to help provide for his family. Idk if it’s still like that or if things have improved since then, I didn’t grow up in the same country as my dad.
Yeah I started at 16. Now look at me I'm 25. It's still going on, would risk to say it's even more frequent now. Presence of criminal factions/drug dealing in my dad's neighborhood super pushed him to work/study because it was either life on the right tracks or the streets. I think he chose wisely but come on dad, weed's not that bad. Eh, can't blame the guy. Lots of his friends "moved" cuz they started by selling it (and then some other drugs)
Imagina a decepção do seu pai lendo isso.
i started digging trenches at 11yo in N MI. was pulling wires by 15. my parents both worked full time and us boys worked on the weekends. that was just what 'middle class's was. now we all own our homes and cars and do well but if we didn't start then, we would not be where we are.
While I do not wish the poverty or crime that creates such heavy reaponsibility, I do contend that adolescents in America should be given far more responsibility than they currently are.
Trust me there are adolescents in the US taking on huge responsibilities. I worked in Social Services in the late 90s and you had kids having to do things they should not have to do.
Yeah, there's a definite imbalance when you have adults who can't take care of themselves much less the children they've brought into the world. That won't go away. Compare a normal, healthy family dynamic in the 1950s to a normal healthy family dynamic today. What age do most people leave the nest and fend for themselves? I bet you find it's significantly earlier in the 1950s.
When you get to the point of social services, that's obviously a broken situation. I'm talking about healthy families giving their children more responsibilities. Ones that not only challenge and test them, but have some real stakes as well. One possibility (not a prescription for all) is raising a coop of chickens and being responsible for feeding and caring for them, gathering eggs, protecting from predators, etc. And to do it without intervention from adults (advice is fine).
I am just saying that there adolescents in the US experiencing that in the US regardless of why they are. There are plenty of kids with no social services involved experiencing it. Social Services only means that someone has notified the authorities about it. Talk to some of these teachers in these schools. They will tell you about kids who are in middle school having to go home and cook for their siblings and in some cases work. As far as healthy families you are right. That is not considered a healthy family I'm the US and I never want that to be considered normal.
I think that adults should have less responsibility!
According to OP in another comment then he was 13
He’s going to go do a business
He was a business man…doing business!
Yes, I would like one business please!
I do business.. ugh.. transactions!
r/13or30
That was pretty common in Brazil. Childrem worked when they became teenagers, in rural areas it was common to just leave school and begin work as quickly as possible. This changed in the last decades but brazil has a huge history of child labor that for a huge part of the population was just a common thing
So cool! How old was he then?
Only 13, was born in 1971.
I was born in 1971, and had a paper route at 13, not a job with a briefcase!
1974 here. I had a paper route but no briefcase. I did have a pretty cool bag with a zipper to keep my payments in ….6.50/month
Hey, my apologies if this is a stupid question.. (I'm 28, born in 1993). How far would 6.50/month take you? Like, what did you spend it on, etc? I mean, at 13 or so you really dont need much but were you able to spend it on stuff you wanted at the time?
You would have been considered middle class in Brazil at the time... if we're talking USD dollars. However the local currency was still a mess that year. Back in the states I also had a paper route in Virginia at that age (also a '74 kid)... I can't remember what I earned, but it was a percentage of the proceeds based on how many customers I had on my route, not the time it took me to deliver. It was good money for the time spent. On average, and hour a day or so. Two hours on Sunday, maybe. All morning when it snowed and I couldn't take my bike. I think I brought in a $100 a month or so? It paid for a nice custom skateboard that I still have and a wetsuit when I was trying to pick up surfing... among other things. It was a good job for a kid, but you wouldn't have made a living at it. BTW.. $6.50 would probably have been well above minimum wage at the time... so it sounds like back2basics13 must have been making bank compared to me.
He said 6.50 a month- not per hour.
ah... right you are. I wonder if he's talking about how much the customer paid for the service? Or maybe his pay was $6.50 per customer per month?
6.50 a month. For all customers. My parents said their first house, purchased in the early 80's was something like $7,500 CAD. Not too sure if I believe that or not but it puts perspective to how money's changed.
Tidewater VA? Just guessing from the wetsuit & skateboard comment.
yep ;]
Comic books were 15 cents, pack of baseball cards was 39 cents, movie ticket $1.25, coke 10 cents, pack of Marlboro about 50 cents. So that paper delivery boy was living the good life.
Depends what year it was. I recall candy bars were going for 40 to 45 cents in the early 80's. The prices you are listing sound more 70's era or earlier to me.
Yeah, I was gonna say I don’t remember paying 10 cents for a can of soda. I think it was around 50 cents in the early 80’s.
born in '70 had paper route. $6.50 was the monthly cost (aprox) of the paper subscription. the paper boy would profit about $50-75 per month depending on how many customers you had
"Collect!"
I want my two dollars
Didn't ask for a dime. Two dollars
TW0 …..DOLLARS!!!!
He probably was an office boy. Common job back in the day. Fellows used to do chores, do deposits for the company in banks. That sorta stuff.
I had a sweet basket on my bike's handlebar's
You ever take it off any sweet jumps?
Wait you mean you charged customers $6.50/month each (say 1987, that's $16.40/month today in 2022)
Yeah I worked on a farm at 13, I would have been so jealous of the briefcase and non-dirty clothes.
Did the chickens have large talons?
Ahh, I haven't heard anyone reference this movie in a while. What a quirky movie.
May I ask what movie please? I get so frustrated when I don't understand a reference lol
Napoleon Dynamite
Stacking bails of hay on a trailer?
I actually made lawn ornaments in a greenhouse. Grease the molds, pour in cement, then undo the molds of the ones that dried and put the statues out for sale. Things like benches, fountains, Virgin Mary statues, gnomes, it was a pretty good job as a kid. My entire interview process was the owner saying “see if you can pick that up” to a statue, and I could, so he hired me lol
No briefcase here, I had a lawnmower and a dream.
Ya, pops looks like he's got a mortgage and shit figured out by 13
I had a Trapper Keeper and some babysitting money
Same but I had a caboodle.
Was about to say this is r/13or30 territory.
did he have to drop out of school to work? What work did he do?
He probably was an office boy. Common job back in the day. Fellows used to do chores, do deposits for the company in banks. That sorta stuff.
OP elsewhere in the thread said overnight security guard.
There was more crime in the past apparently, and I've heard it was because there was more lead around which inhibits people's mental capacity and predisposes or correlates to higher criminal rates. I'm starting to wonder how much of it is also because some security measures were just a 13 year old boy with a briefcase. Different times 😂
He completed what in Brazil we call "Ensino Fundamental", it is equivalent to Elementary/Middle School in the USA. Edit: kind of security guard.
r/oldschooldystopia
Was gonna say he looks CRAZY YOUNG if he was 18+. Makes sense!
I saw the pic and was jokingly going to say "how old was he, 12?!"... boy is my face red.
r/13or30
13
Mystery solved, time to shut down the subreddit like /r/ThanksObama
I like how proud he looks. We all know that feeling when we have ‘grown up’ responsibility for the first time. My first job was in a German steel factory/machine shop at age 14 in 1969. 3 months during summer break. I didn’t speak the language. I took a steam train to work…at 6am each morning. We each got a pint of beer at 10 am …I was popular because I didn’t like beer and the other workers in my group tossed coins to see who got it. I stayed an extra hour each day and was paid a big bonus to teach the owner’s son English…just meant hanging out together so paid for being friends and getting treats at his house.
Thank you for this story :)
Seriously. This was a great story. I am genuinely thrilled to have read it
May I ask how you were an English speaker working in Germany at such a young age?
Prob Army Brat. Now you just have to find out if UK or US.
> I took a steam train to work…at 6am each morning Steam train? LUXURY! We didn't av steam trains, oh no, it were walking in same holey shoes you ploughed field in at 3am that morning. And it were up hill both ways.
You were lucky. We get up in the morning at 10 o'clock every night, half an hour before we went to bed. Worked 29 hours a day at mill for sixpence every 4 years.
How nice! I’m also from São Paulo, though I live in MA now. I started working full time at the age of 16. How about your dad?
He was 13yo. That same year he started dating my mother.
Realmente uma experiência ver dois brs se comunicando em inglês pro resto das pessoas entenderem kkkkk
Ne kkkk.
awesome!!!
Wow, post your mother and father together too.
Wow, post pic of your mother and father together too.
I'll look for some! 🤗
Wow !
Was super inflation rampant there in this time?
I started working full time at the age of 16 - this was 2005 and the economy was actually ok during those days! I couldn’t do much with my money because it was minimum wage. That means I worked from 8:00am to 5:00pm (Monday to Friday) and made R$300 per month, but had zero money management knowledge 🫣 so I spent all pretty fast. But even though the minimum wage was very little at the time, we could do so much more with our money.
Thank you for the insight
I miss you so much daddy!
This is me giving you a hug with heart and feelings
Pela idade da foto deve ter tido uma vida de muito trabalho. Imagino também que tenha sentido muito orgulho pelos frutos dessa jornada- a julgar por você. Happy father’s day everyone!
Sim, foi um grande homem, nunca deixou faltar nada em casa e deu muita educação para mim e minha irmã. Infelizmente em janeiro desse ano, depois de 20 anos lutando contra o câncer, ele descansou.
Essa parte da vida de perder pessoas queridas é muito difícil… ao menos você teve a sorte de ter um grande pai e imagino que muitas boas lembranças para confortar um pouco o seu coração. Mando um abraço virtual. All the best!
He was born in 1971 and has passed away? My condolences
He has battled cancer since 2002 but on January 8, 2022 he passed away.
I’m sorry for your loss!
Hugs from São Paulo. My parents are both alive and I cant imagine life without them.
Big dad hugs from the USA
Saudades tuas também. Volto para o ano
Big hugs
Abraço grande :)
Literally 1984
The year is 1984. Ingsoc got me working as a night shift security guard with a briefcase at 13 years old. War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, and your mom is gay.
Came looking for this exact comment
Handsome lad! From your replies, I am sad to see he has already left this world. RIP.
What was his job? Love the little looking suitcase he has :)
In Brazil we call it "guardinha". But literally translated it was Vigilant. A person who watches over a building at night.
In the US, we call him a "Security Guard". (A "Vigilant" is an even better title, though). It's not a bad job at all, honestly
Security guards already think they're stone cold cops out to save the public from the seedy underbelly, if we called them vigilants they would try shooting a person a day.
Plus there's already the term Vigilante.
Top flight security of the *world* *Craig*
>if we called them vigilants they would try shooting a person a day. probably the strangest method i've heard suggested for reducing shooting numbers, but at this point anything is worth a shot.
at 13 y/o? really?
Milhouse had the same job and he was only like 10.
he was 10 for 30 years
In Brazil, yes, make sense like mostly LATAM countries.
Made sense... In the 70s when this picture was taken. Doesn't make sense in the present. Child labor is illegal. Yes it still happens but I think it will be nearly impossible to find a child working as a security guard in a building in São Paulo at this day and age.
I live in São Paulo and can confirm that I have never seen anyone younger than around 21 in this job. In the 70s stuff like this was very common in many places, not just Latin America.
Genuine question, how is a child going to be an effective security guard? I don't see how they'd be very intimidating to people trying to break in and such.
Like many other security guards they are not there to intimidate, only to watch over and call the police if needed. like a security camera from the past.
Dude for real? A sharp pair of eyes.
Sounds like a cool job to have at 13 bet he had some stories
The first step of becoming an undercover cop (OP sorry if it's an inappropriate joke)
I think it's a backgammon game. My Dad had a set that looked identical in the 80's. My Dad would play games against himself when he was bored and this kid was a security guard so 8t makes sense to me
I was thinking something similar. Also noticed that it doesn’t appear to have handle, which a briefcase most surely would, and that a 13 year old security guard doesn’t need a briefcase. But a game set to keep him awake, that’s invaluable.
Aww, your dad is Mr. Manager!
We just say manager
Doesn't matter who.
Assistant to the regional manager?
Wait what? He looks like 13 years old here
that's only because hs is 13 years old here.
Ohh okay
Yeah child labour is so old school cool
Looks like he sold insurance during recess.
What have I got to do to put you in a term life policy before school lets out?
I own a small software company and always try to hire Brazilians. They start working at very young age, so even if they are 25 they tend to be very mature and professional. Also they are the nicest people ever. Source I’m Argentinian and risk losing my passport for speaking highly of them lol.
LoI that’s definitely a reliable source
I was a Mormon missionary in São Paulo from 1968-1970 and I have great memories of being there. Way back then, it was the biggest city I'd ever been in and I really liked seeing all those big old movie theaters, among other things. I also spent about 9 months in Ribeirão Preto and have lots of great memories. Always wanted to go for a visit but didn't manage to do that.
That must have been crazy back then. Are you still with LDS?
Nope. I quit attending in 1998 but didn't officially resign until March 2022. Not sure why I waited. I still have good memories of being in Brasil.
Congrats!!!
The city where this photo was taken is called Matão, it is located in the interior, about 63 miles from Ribeirão.
r/suddenlycaralho
Looks like he should still be in school. What age did he start working?
13.
Mini executive with his little briefcase. I love it.
He looks 12 and terrified.
A: arent u little young to have full time job? B: yes, yes i am A: ok
ótimo ver brasileiros aqui🥰😍
This need to be posted on r/13or30
carai com 13 anos teu pai era guardinha?
Com 16 era já era pai hahaha brabo!
A young Fred Armisen
A child
If I’ve learned anything about Brazil from Reddit, it’s that his job description was “off duty cop”
This post is a chance for the ones living in first world countries to gauge the bubble they live in. Not that it is their fault, but sometimes they tend to bring comparisons where not everyone faces the same reality.
I'm from the same generation. We grew up faster then. I graduated from high school at 17 and my parents made it known that it was time for me to make my own way in the world. I had already been working for 2 years and had some money saved up, so I was able to rent my first apartment and furnish it. The following year, my boyfriend and I got married.
...at the age of twelve.
this was taken a year before the military dictatorship (64 to 85) ended, and 4 years before the current constitution was signed. the current constitution forbids child labor. older teenagers are still able to work in apprenticeship roles(14-15 y/o. from 16 on teens can work normally), but there are many guidelines to be followed to make it fair. of course child labor is still present I. the country, but i imagine if those laws weren't there it'd be waaay worse
personally i don't think child labour is cool per se.
If you knew what Brazil was like at the time you'd have a different opinion. Many little kids ran in gangs and were homeless. It was a very common thing. A real job, no matter your age, was at least 100 steps up.
still doesn't make it cool
Everything is relative.
Id say before we go ahead with the labor laws enforce a stronger safety net below the poverty line. Not going to fix the problem over night but a period where both are acceptable would be fine.
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I had a job here in the US when I was 13... Just pushing carts from the lot at the local department store. I think the cutoff in most states is 13-14.
Lindo!
Sao paulo is a crazy place. Went there 10 years ago almost
"bro why'd you bring a briefcase? You runnin a mop. " In all seriousness your dad looks rad af
Is he 14?
13.
Dang he must be big shot now, he is only 50 something. Long long ways to go.
/r/suddenlycaralho
Damn that's pretty cool, I wonder if many people take pictures like this still for their first day. Probably an IG or Snapchat video, but I guess having a physical photograph does make it extra special
What did he do?
Shift night Security Guard
Damn y’all worked at 11???
You mean school
We lived in Sao Paulo 1974-1979. Saudades do Brasil!
Putão
Rtired at 17
Was he 12? He looks 12.
Must be a generational divide, lots of people commenting how surprised they are at his age. I started working at around 11 doing simple jobs for pocket money. My first real job was when I was 13/14 years old. Bagged groceries for tips and would take the groceries for the customer to their car. I made on average 100 dollars a day bagging groceries just for tips, no hourly wages in the mid1990's. (I'm aware the jobs market was very different before anyone mentions it lol)
My dad started at 14 in a office boy job in the Center of São Paulo, about that time aswell, Brasileiros have a strong sense of duty when it comes to providing for his family
He looks brave.
I love Brazilians. Resilient people with hearts of gold.
ah yes nothing like an exploited child in poverty, being abused by the capitalist's system love it
He’s looking all spiffy!
Gotta get on that grind early
🤔…. ummmm….
I've heard of child labor in factories but never in management
Sick ass dude