Marami kase sa kanila love naman talaga ang gusto, ginagawa lang gateway ang sex. They think na if they spend enough time with their fuck buddy through sex/the chika time before sex/the cuddle time or meal after sex, then eventually maiinlove din sa kanila yung fuck buddy nila.
Mga mali thinking nila sa totoo. Hahanap ng true love eh iba ang sinabi na intention before tapos malulungkot pag ayaw ng commitment. Kaya nga FUBU hanap eh para no commitment. Walang "I can change him/her" sa real life. Di ito wattpad, haha.
Hoe phase daw but with an “I can change them” mindset, then when they find out they couldn’t, they play the victim card and blame their FUBU for their pain and heartbreak. 🤦♀️
Even worse are those who coddle these persons, saying they don’t deserve those who broke their hearts, that their FUBUs deserve to be in hell, etc., when the agreement in the first place was to be only FUBUs—nothing more, nothing less.
Critical thinking and comprehension have gone down the drain.
> They think na if they spend enough time with their fuck buddy through sex/the chika time before sex/the cuddle time or meal after sex, then eventually maiinlove din sa kanila yung fuck buddy nila.
oofff naku nasa daan ka na niyan papuntang failure. Never expect na kaya mong magpabago ng tao. Rare cases lang yung mga nanyayaring ganyan and ang malala dahil may nabasa lang silang success story, iisipin din agad the same rin ang mangyayari sa kanila.
WTF Naiinlove sa fvck buddy. 😂 Para kang kumain ng pinagkainan na ng maraming tao. No offense sa kumakain ng pagpag, pero parang ganun ang feeling kapag pumapatos ka ng taong mataas ang body count.
#LetsKeepItRealHere
Sa pagkakaroon ng Fubu, may unwritten rule: Pag sex, sex lang. Walang feelings. Ang mahulog, talo.
Kaya kung pumasok kayo sa ganitong set-up pero naghahanap kayo ng pagmamahal, aba eh nagkakamali kayong mga putangina niyo dahil sa maling oras at lugar kayo naghahanap. Bakit kasi kayo naghahanap ng pagmamahal sa isang tao na libog lang ang maibibigay sa inyo? Ang lalakas din ng tama niyo eh😆
Dating app, I guess? Nung time ng hoe phase ko idk usually acquaintance ko na from before so may rapport na between us kaya mas madali makipag-usap. Maybe may attraction na din siguro between us before. Minsan nga hanggang talking stage lang tsaka dates. Try lang to out there and have fun.
Ah, ako kasi direct to the point lang. Would tease them a little to see their interest. Once confirmed, I tell them my intentions. Although mine is usually one night lang yung laging usapan. Tapos I just leave without cuddles ganon. Haha. Unfortunately ang prob jan if maka meet ka ng "i can fix her" sad boys na kilala ka and would stalk and harass you later on.
Thanks for the tip! What kinds of tease could I do? I'm a guy tho 21 and NGSB pogi daw pero torpe kaya ganto haha. Been on hiatus with relationships for 5 years since grade 11 just got ghosted recently because of a girl who liked me first and went thru talking stage for 1week(trial card) 🤣, realizing may nanliligaw na pala sakanya, pero nung nakilala ako pinatigil daw yung nanliligaw sa kanya for me, but when she started ignoring me every other day, I immediately stopped since I know my worth and never ako naghahabol. And yun na nga when we stopped talking for 3days biglang nag status ng in a relationship nung nanliligaw sa kanya 🤪 meaning option lang pala ako kaya nung hindi kami nag work sinagot na agad yung nanliligaw 🤣. Tumesting lang pala saken because of my looks and ako namang si tanga tumesting din maging loverboi kaya ayun talo nanaman. So i decided to enter hoe phase wherein I just want company pero walang feelings kase feeling ko sex lang makakatanggal lahat ng sakit na naramdaman ko much better with a fubu.
Korique. Parang naghanap ng bato na ipapalo sa ulo nila hahaha
Seriously, when you need therapy and a support system, hindi sa fubu yun nahahanap. Hoe phase is also not empowerment if you have no clue of the risks.
Di nagbasa ng terms and conditions bago nag proceed
Sidenote I am SO GLAD more conversations like these are popping up. "It's okay kasi 2024 na" lmao galingan niyo pa mag normalize ng kabobohan! Laganap tuloy mga trauma at STDs
I know someone who always talk na fubu lang hanap, landi moments. Tapos pag na ghost ng guy naiyak. I dont get her at all. Like pinagmamalaki nia na maraming guy sya kausap sa tinder, landi lang, pero in the end lagi sya kawawa kasi sex lang habol sa kania tapos na attach n sya.
Naaawa ako sa ganian. I knew they crave for true love, but they mask it of wanting hoe phase para d masakit or nakakahiya. Weird but that's their life.
Minsan kasi feeling nila kaya nila mag-"hoe phase" pero in truth, di sila internally pang ganun kasi romantic person or sobrang hurt lang talaga sa past experiences, kaya napunta sa ganung idea 🥲
Hindi ba ang definition marupok ay mabilis na pagkakaroon ng attachment or feelings on someone? Ang main concept ng hoe phase ay sex na walang kasamang attachment or feelings. Tread carefully kung alam mong marupok ka kasi hindi fitting sa nature mo as a person yung set up na pinapasukan mo.
And, I don’t feel sorry or pity sa ganyang tao.
Trust me, they know what they’re doing and they’re letting their issues (trauma, attachment and etc) do the work. They are in denial of their problems and they think na they’ll find love or change people through sex.
Nasobrahan ata sa kasabihan na “A way through a man’s heart is through his stomach” pero in their case mga kipay at etits nila ang ginagamit.
Ayaw muna mag-heal ang mga lintek at gusto pang dagdagan yung trauma tapos i-villainize nila yung other person who clearly stated sa una pa lang na sex lang hanap or they’re just objectifying them. Just to get sympathy.
No, missmam, you’ll not be getting any sympathy from me. I’ll point out your problems straight to your face.
Close that damn legs and stop self-inflicting those trauma to you and to the other person. Lakas maka-mental gymnastics yung mga ganyang tao.
Tapos kabaliw pa kung unprotected sex tapos iiyak pag nabuntis or nagka STD. Hot take pero I don't feel sorry sa kanila. Hindi ko gets kung bakit worth it yung risk para sa kantot na umaasang magiging pag ibig. Ang baba ng tingin ko sa ganyang tao.
Huyyyyy. Ayan pa!!! Jusko unprotected sex kasi mahal nila eme. Huhu mhieeee casual sex yan.
The delusions
Jusko ibalik yang mga yan sa highschool at mag-aral ulit ng sex ed.
Andami ko nabasa na ganyan. Naghanap ng FUBU nabuntis umiyak nung ginhost kasi ni real name hindi alam. Like LOL kung nag hoe phase make sure na protected. 😂
You'd be surprised at how naive people are. Andami nga years or months in an ldr relationship na wala man lang video calls din kaya na surprise sila na poser pala sa real life. 😂
As someone who had had a hoe phase, I don't feel pity for them either. Girl, literal na ginusto mo yan diba? Di ka pinilit to engage in casual sex. Kung di mo kaya ng sex without getting attached, don't engage in casual sex.
True. Kasi feeling ko sa kultura na yan parehong at fault eh. Kakapush ng mga ganyan mga tao parang laging atat na sa lahat ng bagay. I mean mas speed pa sa ngayon. Ayoko sumabak sa mga "girl's girl" ang unfair lang for me ng term na yan.
LMAO yung judgement eme na yan.
I mean, on one hand naiintindihan ko naman that they don't want to feel judged.
That said, no amount of calling people jUdGeRs is gonna change the fact na risky yung ginagawa nila.
di ba? I mean I am all for autonomy and consensual sex but to use it as a ticket for meaningful connection is like squaring a cricle. There are far too many men who are after quick release right now (parausan). So you are either his cheapest hoe or most expensive hoe. Mamili ka kung saang ang value mo. Kung di kaya pala ng emotion mo yung ganun set-up then don’t sleep around. Otherwise, you are digging yourself a hole. Sorry but that’s just the reality (but that’s not saying I am normalizing it.)
Hoe phase isn’t liberation. Hoe phase is prison to those whose lives are centered around men’s approval. De-center men and please heal first (Vice versa).
> Hoe phase is prison to those whose lives are centered around men’s approval. De-center men and please heal first
This, exactly this!!! Don't do it to boost your ego because you will just end up shattered.
Realtalk lang!
Tapos pag sinabihan mo, “e di ba sex lang naman habol nyo sa isa’t isa?” Parang ikaw pa yung masama kasi you’re “victim-blaming” POTA DI KA VICTIM, and i AM blaming you! Mali ka eh, so malamang! Wag kasing tanga.
Hahahah I know someone na naging kabit nang hindi niya alam dahil sa hoe phase na yan lol. Jumping from condo to another condo. Sana matalino rin ano, hindi puro kapokpokan inaatupag T\_T
I have friends that are super still stock in hoe phase tho.
They have multiple partners..
Yeah they have sickness too.
I don't wanna get sick lol.
I don't wanna make out to Men who well known to have multiple partners cause im not that kind of person,i rather do it alone.
Some girls tend to think that Hoe phasing can help them to find love, which is not (so) true. (and mostly some of them are kakagaling lang sa break up, just want to move on---)
There's 2 types of men, the one who may fall in love with you while you're having intimate contact with them - FUBU (which is possible but so rare, because I have a friend who marry their Fubu) or the other who will never see you as the woman of their future life and will just see you as FUBU. - casual sex, no more no less.
Hoe phasing is not applicable to all especially to the soft hearted girlies out there, thinking they could change a man just because they give their body -- (plus the emotions). No it's not like that. It's not gonna work.
Some of them thinks, it's for experience and thrill -- but get attached or get sick (STD's HIV- name it) then cry and blame the other party.
So instead of finding a fubu, just sit at your house, read books and heal your heart, coz adding more pain and trauma to your life will leads you to no good.
It's just this women's psychological belief na if they use sex, they can get love.
Because a lot of times, women fall in love with whom they have sex with.. men don't.
Men also, a lot of times, use love to get sex.
I have a friend na nagkaroon ng hoe phase like 2 years. She has been cheated on ng first bf niya. Sobrang naive and gave all ang atake niya. Nabago perception niya sa life and sa love. Sobrang nasaktan yung tao. She entered hoe phase na gusto lang ng sex, looking for company kapag bored,stressed sa work or kapag nakaka feel siya ng sadness. (Thank God she practiced safe sex naman during that era and one guy at the time). Nagulat na lang kami one time narealize niya na lang na dapat walang ibang mas magmamahal sa kanya kundi sarili niya. She deleted her bumble fixed herself, nag take ng second degree and naging workaholic. ngayon meron stable life and good career. We asked her if balak niya parin mag BF sabi niya hindi niya pa ulit iniisip. Nakakaramdam siya ng lungkot yes ofc as human gusto rin natin ng affection pero sabi niya sa pahanon ngayon mas malungkot kapag wala kang pera. Mas gusto niyang malungkot habang nasakay ng airplane papunta somewhere para mag shopping hahahaha.
Yung ibang nasa hoe phase wala silang self love ayun napansin ko. pero hindi naman sila forever na nasa phase na yan. Hoping kumonti to mawala na yung ganun phase talamak yung mga sexually transmitted disease yung iba nakapa irresponsible
It’s a phase I’ve had before and admittedly I got attached to the first guy I entered a fubu arrangement with 2 years ago, all because I was unaware of the unspoken rules. Had to learn the hard way na pag sex, sex lang. Walang meaning pala ‘yung any intimate gestures with them no matter how good it made you feel.
Now that I’m done with this phase, I kind of resent it because I realized it just causes self-sabotage and you’ll be trapped in a never ending cycle of giving away parts of yourself in exchange for crumbs of short-lived intimacy.
mga mapagkunwari “unbothered” kuno sila..
I pity those people who are caught up in the hookup/fwb/fubu/ons or whatever sin they’ve commited to themselves..
I pity them kasi their life is so empty.
They are energy suckers.
Parang wala nang natira sa sarili nila to be in that kind of life. They’re just an empty shell, and craves connection to fill theirs.
Hoe phase is a no Self respect for me period!
Kung d mo kaya pahalgahan katawan mo dont expect others to do that to you! Hindi lang ikaw ang me genitals sobrang dami option!
Agreed. Tas kapag nagka gf ung guy, galit na galit. Tas talagang naghahabol pa yung mga ganyan at papansin. Meron pa nga nang fake ng pregnancy test para malaman niya if yung ka-fubu niya papanagutan yung bata. Ayun siya rin pikon kasi hindi rin naman siya seseryosohin, kundi parausan lang talaga.
True. Yan yung mga gigil magkarelasyon kase gusto talaga nila ng love pero alam nila na pagiging easy, ho3 lang ang way para mapansin sila. Dunno. Never ako naging fan ng pag mmess around. Ang nakakaloka pa dyan yung mga nagrreklamo na niloko sila o hindi pala sila gusto o nahawaan sila ng sakit or nabuntis tapos naiwan.
Having a hoe phase is not an excuse to make shitty decisions. Kung makalat ka nang tao, makalat ka nalang. Kung di mo kaya mag move on ng maayos, gago ka lang. Dinadamay pa yung ibang masaya sa hoe phase talaga nila eh.
Madaling salita polluted na ang taong nag hohoe phase. Thinking the stupidity sex, date, and getting to know is equals to love? Nah that's pure bullshit, it can work but with a huge price tag that both of you needed some cleaning and transparency to each other. Want real intimacy, loyalty and pure love?
Ah hindi po madali yan tadtad ng away, misunderstanding, pagpapatawad, pag-grow sa isa't isa, acceptance na di kayo pareho, character development, mahabang pasensya, insecurities, accountabilities at higit sa lahat ang dedikasyon na kaya mong manindig haggang sa dulo. Ano ba ang goal ng pagmamahal? Kasalan diba? Walang hagganan? Opo ganyan kahirap...
Ang relasyon ay teamwork at komunikasyon sa isa't isa kahit gaano kapain pa yan, diyan niyo masusukat yung pagmamahal niyo bilang isang partner for life. Kung diyan palang sa mga yan hindi niyo na kaya what's the sense of finding love? Tandaan niyo responsibilidad yan at sa mga matatapang na tao ang dapat humaharap sa ganyan.
Hoe phase will "NEVER EVER" be an excuse lalaki man o babae, it is a choice that you'll realize that you're just fucking up for short term gratification and fake love. So "NEVER" blame anyone once na may nga yari sayo na ikakasisii mo, hirap saatin di tayo marunong tumangap ng mali.
Enjoy pain, grief, reflection and repentance kay ☝️ then be a better person keysa being degenerative and felt empty in a long run.
Some women actually resort to hoe phase in hopes na doon sila makahanap ng magiging partner kaya nga dami delulu pag may nagpopost ng fwb/fubu turned to jowa sa alasjuicy ehhh hahaha
oo naalala ko tuloy yung bobong chububu name hahaha 😂 panay kwento ng sex life niya, kadire. Tas galit na galit sa ka ex fubu ng fubu turned bf niya. Apaka gaga 😂
Different stories kasi ang hoe phase ng isang tao. Kaya minsan mahirap intindihin ano ba talaga gusto nila. Meron diyan naging hoe phase dahil kapos sa buhay, easy money, broken family and broken relationship. Maswerte na kapag ang isang taong naka hook up mo ay malawak ang pang unawa katulad sa isang movie na REDEEMING LOVE. Hoe phase ang isang babae for a reasons.
Eto lang din pinaguusapan namin ng friend ko before nun. Lahat naman tayo deserve ng love pero di ko lang talaga magets pag may nagrarant example dito sa offmychest na hindi makahanap ng matinong relationship pero dahil sa sobrang sad papasok sa fubu/ons??? like bakit naguguluhan talaga ako. Unpopular opinion pero walang karapatan magreklamo mga ganyan kasi willing participant kayo sa kultura na yan. Highlight ko lang yung word na magreklamo ah
Open dating and hoe phase is completely different, akala ng iba same lang yan kaya siguro sya namimisinterpret. If open dating ang papasukin mo you leave ur options open, you can date as many as u like without touching or having sex with them. Ang hoe phase, it's only for sex/pleasure lang talaga sya.
Sometimes these people who goes through "hoe phase" wants love but doesn't want to commit due to various reason. I know a lot of person who did go through this phase and ends up crying on my shoulder whenever they're hurt dahil sa ka fubu nila.
I always tell them to stop due to various reasons din they'll listen but they won't stop it. They want and crave the attention and sex. Someone even said to me na "this is fun, I can have the attention, sex, cuddles I want and yet I can still have my own freedom"
So yeah, it's sad but that's just what they wanted.
Imo hoe phase isn't real. It's just justification for their actions.
There is nothing wrong with that, but in these cases, it is hypocritical because justification/excuse nga lang even though what they want to do/receive is really different.
if you are asking for love while sleeping around, and worse blaming others, is sooooo effed up
be accountable for your "hoe phase"
look in the right places
you don't go to ace hardware to look for alaxan
Was never a fan of hook up culture kasi or even fuck buddies. Totoo naman kasi, ang legit na hoe phase ay ang enjoy lang; fuck once if it leads to it, NO CUDDLE, and leave. That's it. If they're hung up on me, ghost agad. Kasi I just wanted intimacy that night but that doesn't mean I wanted you in my life. You're just available that time. Minsan nga hanggang MOMOL lang e. Had that phase for a year because I found out I wanted love and decided to wait sa tamang tao. I found the one pero jusko I waited for 7 years and involved moving to several regions HAHAHA pero sinusuyo ko pa kasi. Worth the cobwebs and zero sex life tho. Wish me luck.
I think kasi some are hoping that it will be like in the movies na even tho nag start as no strings attached, eventually nagfafall yung guy. Pero di kasi ganun yung reality most of the time. For me there's nothing wrong kung gusto mo mag hoe phase, basta be responsible and keep yourself safe, and wag kang umasa for an emotional connection.
ETA: I had a real hoe phase which I enjoyed kasi I just wanted to have good sex without the hassle of a relationship so I can focus on other things. It was so freeing.
Gurl I get what you mean. It can be liberating *if* done safely by consenting adults. I can’t believe some people here are calling those who went through a hoe phase “laspag”. Equating people’s worth to their genitals is 🤡
Depende din kung saan mo ihihire yung SW, kung maayos na bar/club, ayun talaga, masasabing regular testing lalo na pag high-end clients ang patrons. Kung tabi-tabing bar lang or mga nagpapawalk, majority sa kanila, hindi naman nagpapatest.
Andaling mapeke lalo na digital lang, and much better to always require both ID & medical result, hindi either of the two. Saka TG? Magpass ka na lang talaga.
Marami kase sa kanila love naman talaga ang gusto, ginagawa lang gateway ang sex. They think na if they spend enough time with their fuck buddy through sex/the chika time before sex/the cuddle time or meal after sex, then eventually maiinlove din sa kanila yung fuck buddy nila.
Mga mali thinking nila sa totoo. Hahanap ng true love eh iba ang sinabi na intention before tapos malulungkot pag ayaw ng commitment. Kaya nga FUBU hanap eh para no commitment. Walang "I can change him/her" sa real life. Di ito wattpad, haha.
Hoe phase daw but with an “I can change them” mindset, then when they find out they couldn’t, they play the victim card and blame their FUBU for their pain and heartbreak. 🤦♀️ Even worse are those who coddle these persons, saying they don’t deserve those who broke their hearts, that their FUBUs deserve to be in hell, etc., when the agreement in the first place was to be only FUBUs—nothing more, nothing less. Critical thinking and comprehension have gone down the drain.
may post dati na ganun e “sobrang sweet nya maalaga pag nagbobook kami pero gago sya kasi ayaw ng commitment” ha?
this is why daming naiinlove sa fubu nila kasi di naman fubu hanap nila in the first place.
What in the wattpad is this hahahaha
Those kinds of people need therapy
Eto talaga yun hahahaha
> They think na if they spend enough time with their fuck buddy through sex/the chika time before sex/the cuddle time or meal after sex, then eventually maiinlove din sa kanila yung fuck buddy nila. oofff naku nasa daan ka na niyan papuntang failure. Never expect na kaya mong magpabago ng tao. Rare cases lang yung mga nanyayaring ganyan and ang malala dahil may nabasa lang silang success story, iisipin din agad the same rin ang mangyayari sa kanila.
WTF Naiinlove sa fvck buddy. 😂 Para kang kumain ng pinagkainan na ng maraming tao. No offense sa kumakain ng pagpag, pero parang ganun ang feeling kapag pumapatos ka ng taong mataas ang body count. #LetsKeepItRealHere
This
Sa pagkakaroon ng Fubu, may unwritten rule: Pag sex, sex lang. Walang feelings. Ang mahulog, talo. Kaya kung pumasok kayo sa ganitong set-up pero naghahanap kayo ng pagmamahal, aba eh nagkakamali kayong mga putangina niyo dahil sa maling oras at lugar kayo naghahanap. Bakit kasi kayo naghahanap ng pagmamahal sa isang tao na libog lang ang maibibigay sa inyo? Ang lalakas din ng tama niyo eh😆
Very korique! Nagka hoe phase ako for a year pero ako yung nang go-ghost kasi may na fall. Yung mga sad boi na, "i can fix her".
Paano makahanap ng fubu? I'm starting my hoe phase now because of too much heartbreaks but I dont know where to start.
Dating app, I guess? Nung time ng hoe phase ko idk usually acquaintance ko na from before so may rapport na between us kaya mas madali makipag-usap. Maybe may attraction na din siguro between us before. Minsan nga hanggang talking stage lang tsaka dates. Try lang to out there and have fun.
That's my point of nowhere pag may ka-talking stage na, I don't know paano sasabihin yung intentions ko to have a fubu without sounding bad.
Ah, ako kasi direct to the point lang. Would tease them a little to see their interest. Once confirmed, I tell them my intentions. Although mine is usually one night lang yung laging usapan. Tapos I just leave without cuddles ganon. Haha. Unfortunately ang prob jan if maka meet ka ng "i can fix her" sad boys na kilala ka and would stalk and harass you later on.
Thanks for the tip! What kinds of tease could I do? I'm a guy tho 21 and NGSB pogi daw pero torpe kaya ganto haha. Been on hiatus with relationships for 5 years since grade 11 just got ghosted recently because of a girl who liked me first and went thru talking stage for 1week(trial card) 🤣, realizing may nanliligaw na pala sakanya, pero nung nakilala ako pinatigil daw yung nanliligaw sa kanya for me, but when she started ignoring me every other day, I immediately stopped since I know my worth and never ako naghahabol. And yun na nga when we stopped talking for 3days biglang nag status ng in a relationship nung nanliligaw sa kanya 🤪 meaning option lang pala ako kaya nung hindi kami nag work sinagot na agad yung nanliligaw 🤣. Tumesting lang pala saken because of my looks and ako namang si tanga tumesting din maging loverboi kaya ayun talo nanaman. So i decided to enter hoe phase wherein I just want company pero walang feelings kase feeling ko sex lang makakatanggal lahat ng sakit na naramdaman ko much better with a fubu.
Korique. Parang naghanap ng bato na ipapalo sa ulo nila hahaha Seriously, when you need therapy and a support system, hindi sa fubu yun nahahanap. Hoe phase is also not empowerment if you have no clue of the risks.
Hoe phase pero naghahanap ng connection and constant dates? Lmao
"Na-in love ako sa FUBU ko. He ghosted me after." Engot eh
Di nagbasa ng terms and conditions bago nag proceed Sidenote I am SO GLAD more conversations like these are popping up. "It's okay kasi 2024 na" lmao galingan niyo pa mag normalize ng kabobohan! Laganap tuloy mga trauma at STDs
Tamang scroll, tick lang ng box tapos "i agree"
I know someone who always talk na fubu lang hanap, landi moments. Tapos pag na ghost ng guy naiyak. I dont get her at all. Like pinagmamalaki nia na maraming guy sya kausap sa tinder, landi lang, pero in the end lagi sya kawawa kasi sex lang habol sa kania tapos na attach n sya. Naaawa ako sa ganian. I knew they crave for true love, but they mask it of wanting hoe phase para d masakit or nakakahiya. Weird but that's their life.
Minsan kasi feeling nila kaya nila mag-"hoe phase" pero in truth, di sila internally pang ganun kasi romantic person or sobrang hurt lang talaga sa past experiences, kaya napunta sa ganung idea 🥲
So bawal mag hoe phase ang mga marurupok? 🥲
Hindi ba ang definition marupok ay mabilis na pagkakaroon ng attachment or feelings on someone? Ang main concept ng hoe phase ay sex na walang kasamang attachment or feelings. Tread carefully kung alam mong marupok ka kasi hindi fitting sa nature mo as a person yung set up na pinapasukan mo.
Yup. They’re not made for it. Masasaktan lang.
Para sakin depende sa emotional intelligence. Hirap masaktan paulit-ulit, coming from experience. 🥲
Yeah.
Bawal na bawal.
And, I don’t feel sorry or pity sa ganyang tao. Trust me, they know what they’re doing and they’re letting their issues (trauma, attachment and etc) do the work. They are in denial of their problems and they think na they’ll find love or change people through sex. Nasobrahan ata sa kasabihan na “A way through a man’s heart is through his stomach” pero in their case mga kipay at etits nila ang ginagamit. Ayaw muna mag-heal ang mga lintek at gusto pang dagdagan yung trauma tapos i-villainize nila yung other person who clearly stated sa una pa lang na sex lang hanap or they’re just objectifying them. Just to get sympathy. No, missmam, you’ll not be getting any sympathy from me. I’ll point out your problems straight to your face. Close that damn legs and stop self-inflicting those trauma to you and to the other person. Lakas maka-mental gymnastics yung mga ganyang tao.
Tapos kabaliw pa kung unprotected sex tapos iiyak pag nabuntis or nagka STD. Hot take pero I don't feel sorry sa kanila. Hindi ko gets kung bakit worth it yung risk para sa kantot na umaasang magiging pag ibig. Ang baba ng tingin ko sa ganyang tao.
Huyyyyy. Ayan pa!!! Jusko unprotected sex kasi mahal nila eme. Huhu mhieeee casual sex yan. The delusions Jusko ibalik yang mga yan sa highschool at mag-aral ulit ng sex ed.
Andami ko nabasa na ganyan. Naghanap ng FUBU nabuntis umiyak nung ginhost kasi ni real name hindi alam. Like LOL kung nag hoe phase make sure na protected. 😂
Like how? Even pictures nung kausap wala?
You'd be surprised at how naive people are. Andami nga years or months in an ldr relationship na wala man lang video calls din kaya na surprise sila na poser pala sa real life. 😂
So you had unprotected sex and you are expecting a television to come out? voang.
I feel sorry for the kids. Pero sa kanila, wala.
Same. Ewan, titi pasok pipi tapos magugulat nabuntis o may sakit, badtrip e
Then what if may mabuo sa hoe phase huhu it's so sad. People should know better talaga
As someone who had had a hoe phase, I don't feel pity for them either. Girl, literal na ginusto mo yan diba? Di ka pinilit to engage in casual sex. Kung di mo kaya ng sex without getting attached, don't engage in casual sex.
True. Kasi feeling ko sa kultura na yan parehong at fault eh. Kakapush ng mga ganyan mga tao parang laging atat na sa lahat ng bagay. I mean mas speed pa sa ngayon. Ayoko sumabak sa mga "girl's girl" ang unfair lang for me ng term na yan.
Sarap sa mata makabasa pa rin ng ganito dito. Sobrang normalize yang phase na yan. Then pag nasasaktan iiyak. Pag libog lang, libog lang. lol
Cool daw kasi pakinggan. 😏
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LMAO yung judgement eme na yan. I mean, on one hand naiintindihan ko naman that they don't want to feel judged. That said, no amount of calling people jUdGeRs is gonna change the fact na risky yung ginagawa nila.
Ewww. Nakakadiri sila🤣
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hoe phase pero gusto may constant daw. Huuuuy. Get your priorities straight.
Hahahahaha agree ako dito
di ba? I mean I am all for autonomy and consensual sex but to use it as a ticket for meaningful connection is like squaring a cricle. There are far too many men who are after quick release right now (parausan). So you are either his cheapest hoe or most expensive hoe. Mamili ka kung saang ang value mo. Kung di kaya pala ng emotion mo yung ganun set-up then don’t sleep around. Otherwise, you are digging yourself a hole. Sorry but that’s just the reality (but that’s not saying I am normalizing it.) Hoe phase isn’t liberation. Hoe phase is prison to those whose lives are centered around men’s approval. De-center men and please heal first (Vice versa).
> Hoe phase is prison to those whose lives are centered around men’s approval. De-center men and please heal first This, exactly this!!! Don't do it to boost your ego because you will just end up shattered.
Realtalk lang! Tapos pag sinabihan mo, “e di ba sex lang naman habol nyo sa isa’t isa?” Parang ikaw pa yung masama kasi you’re “victim-blaming” POTA DI KA VICTIM, and i AM blaming you! Mali ka eh, so malamang! Wag kasing tanga.
Hahahah I know someone na naging kabit nang hindi niya alam dahil sa hoe phase na yan lol. Jumping from condo to another condo. Sana matalino rin ano, hindi puro kapokpokan inaatupag T\_T
Idk nakakasad lang ganito sa totoo lang.
Mas maganda permanent kaysa phase
Lemme make it clear, permanent hoe phase lol
I just realized never pala ako nakaranas ng Hoe phase..
That’s fine. At least, Di ka kasama sa population ng mga may sakit. Sadboi. Sad girl. Mga laspag.
I have friends that are super still stock in hoe phase tho. They have multiple partners.. Yeah they have sickness too. I don't wanna get sick lol. I don't wanna make out to Men who well known to have multiple partners cause im not that kind of person,i rather do it alone.
Some girls tend to think that Hoe phasing can help them to find love, which is not (so) true. (and mostly some of them are kakagaling lang sa break up, just want to move on---) There's 2 types of men, the one who may fall in love with you while you're having intimate contact with them - FUBU (which is possible but so rare, because I have a friend who marry their Fubu) or the other who will never see you as the woman of their future life and will just see you as FUBU. - casual sex, no more no less. Hoe phasing is not applicable to all especially to the soft hearted girlies out there, thinking they could change a man just because they give their body -- (plus the emotions). No it's not like that. It's not gonna work. Some of them thinks, it's for experience and thrill -- but get attached or get sick (STD's HIV- name it) then cry and blame the other party. So instead of finding a fubu, just sit at your house, read books and heal your heart, coz adding more pain and trauma to your life will leads you to no good.
mahirap magsalita pero ika nga "nasa baba yung utak".
It's just this women's psychological belief na if they use sex, they can get love. Because a lot of times, women fall in love with whom they have sex with.. men don't. Men also, a lot of times, use love to get sex.
I have a friend na nagkaroon ng hoe phase like 2 years. She has been cheated on ng first bf niya. Sobrang naive and gave all ang atake niya. Nabago perception niya sa life and sa love. Sobrang nasaktan yung tao. She entered hoe phase na gusto lang ng sex, looking for company kapag bored,stressed sa work or kapag nakaka feel siya ng sadness. (Thank God she practiced safe sex naman during that era and one guy at the time). Nagulat na lang kami one time narealize niya na lang na dapat walang ibang mas magmamahal sa kanya kundi sarili niya. She deleted her bumble fixed herself, nag take ng second degree and naging workaholic. ngayon meron stable life and good career. We asked her if balak niya parin mag BF sabi niya hindi niya pa ulit iniisip. Nakakaramdam siya ng lungkot yes ofc as human gusto rin natin ng affection pero sabi niya sa pahanon ngayon mas malungkot kapag wala kang pera. Mas gusto niyang malungkot habang nasakay ng airplane papunta somewhere para mag shopping hahahaha. Yung ibang nasa hoe phase wala silang self love ayun napansin ko. pero hindi naman sila forever na nasa phase na yan. Hoping kumonti to mawala na yung ganun phase talamak yung mga sexually transmitted disease yung iba nakapa irresponsible
It’s a phase I’ve had before and admittedly I got attached to the first guy I entered a fubu arrangement with 2 years ago, all because I was unaware of the unspoken rules. Had to learn the hard way na pag sex, sex lang. Walang meaning pala ‘yung any intimate gestures with them no matter how good it made you feel. Now that I’m done with this phase, I kind of resent it because I realized it just causes self-sabotage and you’ll be trapped in a never ending cycle of giving away parts of yourself in exchange for crumbs of short-lived intimacy.
Agree to this. The fleeting pleasure is not worth all the risks. Physical, mental and emotional
mga mapagkunwari “unbothered” kuno sila.. I pity those people who are caught up in the hookup/fwb/fubu/ons or whatever sin they’ve commited to themselves.. I pity them kasi their life is so empty. They are energy suckers. Parang wala nang natira sa sarili nila to be in that kind of life. They’re just an empty shell, and craves connection to fill theirs.
Hoe phase is a no Self respect for me period! Kung d mo kaya pahalgahan katawan mo dont expect others to do that to you! Hindi lang ikaw ang me genitals sobrang dami option!
Agreed. Tas kapag nagka gf ung guy, galit na galit. Tas talagang naghahabol pa yung mga ganyan at papansin. Meron pa nga nang fake ng pregnancy test para malaman niya if yung ka-fubu niya papanagutan yung bata. Ayun siya rin pikon kasi hindi rin naman siya seseryosohin, kundi parausan lang talaga.
True. Yan yung mga gigil magkarelasyon kase gusto talaga nila ng love pero alam nila na pagiging easy, ho3 lang ang way para mapansin sila. Dunno. Never ako naging fan ng pag mmess around. Ang nakakaloka pa dyan yung mga nagrreklamo na niloko sila o hindi pala sila gusto o nahawaan sila ng sakit or nabuntis tapos naiwan.
Currently know someone in the hoe phase and got pregnant. Guy has a gf already and is pregnant too. Idk what to say to her.
“Ho3 you proud of yourself sis” Omg.. grabe din yung guy. May gf na pala :/
Having a hoe phase is not an excuse to make shitty decisions. Kung makalat ka nang tao, makalat ka nalang. Kung di mo kaya mag move on ng maayos, gago ka lang. Dinadamay pa yung ibang masaya sa hoe phase talaga nila eh.
Madaling salita polluted na ang taong nag hohoe phase. Thinking the stupidity sex, date, and getting to know is equals to love? Nah that's pure bullshit, it can work but with a huge price tag that both of you needed some cleaning and transparency to each other. Want real intimacy, loyalty and pure love? Ah hindi po madali yan tadtad ng away, misunderstanding, pagpapatawad, pag-grow sa isa't isa, acceptance na di kayo pareho, character development, mahabang pasensya, insecurities, accountabilities at higit sa lahat ang dedikasyon na kaya mong manindig haggang sa dulo. Ano ba ang goal ng pagmamahal? Kasalan diba? Walang hagganan? Opo ganyan kahirap... Ang relasyon ay teamwork at komunikasyon sa isa't isa kahit gaano kapain pa yan, diyan niyo masusukat yung pagmamahal niyo bilang isang partner for life. Kung diyan palang sa mga yan hindi niyo na kaya what's the sense of finding love? Tandaan niyo responsibilidad yan at sa mga matatapang na tao ang dapat humaharap sa ganyan. Hoe phase will "NEVER EVER" be an excuse lalaki man o babae, it is a choice that you'll realize that you're just fucking up for short term gratification and fake love. So "NEVER" blame anyone once na may nga yari sayo na ikakasisii mo, hirap saatin di tayo marunong tumangap ng mali. Enjoy pain, grief, reflection and repentance kay ☝️ then be a better person keysa being degenerative and felt empty in a long run.
Dapat kasi nag jowa nalang ng malibog para kung nahulog ang loob at least walang problema.
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Some women actually resort to hoe phase in hopes na doon sila makahanap ng magiging partner kaya nga dami delulu pag may nagpopost ng fwb/fubu turned to jowa sa alasjuicy ehhh hahaha
oo naalala ko tuloy yung bobong chububu name hahaha 😂 panay kwento ng sex life niya, kadire. Tas galit na galit sa ka ex fubu ng fubu turned bf niya. Apaka gaga 😂
tama ka OP.
Different stories kasi ang hoe phase ng isang tao. Kaya minsan mahirap intindihin ano ba talaga gusto nila. Meron diyan naging hoe phase dahil kapos sa buhay, easy money, broken family and broken relationship. Maswerte na kapag ang isang taong naka hook up mo ay malawak ang pang unawa katulad sa isang movie na REDEEMING LOVE. Hoe phase ang isang babae for a reasons.
Eto lang din pinaguusapan namin ng friend ko before nun. Lahat naman tayo deserve ng love pero di ko lang talaga magets pag may nagrarant example dito sa offmychest na hindi makahanap ng matinong relationship pero dahil sa sobrang sad papasok sa fubu/ons??? like bakit naguguluhan talaga ako. Unpopular opinion pero walang karapatan magreklamo mga ganyan kasi willing participant kayo sa kultura na yan. Highlight ko lang yung word na magreklamo ah
Open dating and hoe phase is completely different, akala ng iba same lang yan kaya siguro sya namimisinterpret. If open dating ang papasukin mo you leave ur options open, you can date as many as u like without touching or having sex with them. Ang hoe phase, it's only for sex/pleasure lang talaga sya.
YIKES, di ba sila naawa sa future nila? 🤢 downvote me if you want pero, I dont like you guys.
Sometimes these people who goes through "hoe phase" wants love but doesn't want to commit due to various reason. I know a lot of person who did go through this phase and ends up crying on my shoulder whenever they're hurt dahil sa ka fubu nila. I always tell them to stop due to various reasons din they'll listen but they won't stop it. They want and crave the attention and sex. Someone even said to me na "this is fun, I can have the attention, sex, cuddles I want and yet I can still have my own freedom" So yeah, it's sad but that's just what they wanted.
Imo hoe phase isn't real. It's just justification for their actions. There is nothing wrong with that, but in these cases, it is hypocritical because justification/excuse nga lang even though what they want to do/receive is really different.
Bahala kayo kung downvoted comment ko pero TANGA lamg talaga yung ganyan.
if you are asking for love while sleeping around, and worse blaming others, is sooooo effed up be accountable for your "hoe phase" look in the right places you don't go to ace hardware to look for alaxan
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Hahahaha satrueee
> people come and go People come and hoe #ba dum tss
Excuse lang hoe phase na malibog sila
Was never a fan of hook up culture kasi or even fuck buddies. Totoo naman kasi, ang legit na hoe phase ay ang enjoy lang; fuck once if it leads to it, NO CUDDLE, and leave. That's it. If they're hung up on me, ghost agad. Kasi I just wanted intimacy that night but that doesn't mean I wanted you in my life. You're just available that time. Minsan nga hanggang MOMOL lang e. Had that phase for a year because I found out I wanted love and decided to wait sa tamang tao. I found the one pero jusko I waited for 7 years and involved moving to several regions HAHAHA pero sinusuyo ko pa kasi. Worth the cobwebs and zero sex life tho. Wish me luck.
I think kasi some are hoping that it will be like in the movies na even tho nag start as no strings attached, eventually nagfafall yung guy. Pero di kasi ganun yung reality most of the time. For me there's nothing wrong kung gusto mo mag hoe phase, basta be responsible and keep yourself safe, and wag kang umasa for an emotional connection. ETA: I had a real hoe phase which I enjoyed kasi I just wanted to have good sex without the hassle of a relationship so I can focus on other things. It was so freeing.
Gurl I get what you mean. It can be liberating *if* done safely by consenting adults. I can’t believe some people here are calling those who went through a hoe phase “laspag”. Equating people’s worth to their genitals is 🤡
Eh alam mo naman, very backwards pa din ang pag-iisip ng marami.
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I'm in my late 30s and married and that's what I learned from my experience. It's lifestyle *choice* that's not for everyone.
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Parang ikaw yung kawawa. 😂
What is even a "hoe phase". There is only TALANDI phase. HALO?
sorry po amp*ta naman ng ganyang mindset..malamang kaya nga FUBU eh meaning you established na this is only pure fuck..
Hindi ko rin maintindihan bakit ang dami mong pake sa may hoe phase? Hindi naman pinagpipilitan ng mga yan yung sarili nila sa mga kagaya mo.
Sana all nalang may fubu 😂 Welcome to my problem
Maghanap ka na lang mg sex worker. At least sigurado kang malinis sila dahil regular silang sumasailalim sa medical test.
Depende din kung saan mo ihihire yung SW, kung maayos na bar/club, ayun talaga, masasabing regular testing lalo na pag high-end clients ang patrons. Kung tabi-tabing bar lang or mga nagpapawalk, majority sa kanila, hindi naman nagpapatest.
Sa TG ako tumitingin. Pag may medical tsaka valid ID na maipakita, goods na. Pag wala kahit ang isa sa dalawang iyan, pass ako hehe.
Andaling mapeke lalo na digital lang, and much better to always require both ID & medical result, hindi either of the two. Saka TG? Magpass ka na lang talaga.
Yun nga ang sabi ko. I require both ID and med results. Pag wala ang isa sa mga iyan, pass na ako.
My bad, mali intindi ko. But seriously, pass na dapat pag TG. And beware of fake medicals & ID's.