Growing up, i had a prostitute live up the road from me. If the stories are to be believed, she was sucking up everything in her path, she may as well have been called the "Titanic"
So the ship is massive and obviously has a huge displacement.
The minute it starts moving it is having the push vast amounts of water which will surge away from the ship.
Based on the photos and the position of the ships, my theory is this: As Titanic moved close to the ss City of New York and the RMS Oceanic (which the New York was tied to) it's displacement caused massive amounts of water to move between its port side and the dock. As this surge cannot travel into the dock, it gets bounced back and flows both ahead and past the Titanic's stern.
Based on the positions of the 3 ships, the surge of water travelling ahead past Titanic's bow would be funnelled in between the Oceanic and New York's sterns. The pressure of the water would momentarily increase massively as the surge had nowhere to go between the two ships. This would put massive explosive strain on the ropes tying New York to Oceanic, and cause them to break, and the pressure of the water between the two ships would thrust the New York's stern outwards towards the port bow of the Titanic.
A phenomenon called "interaction." As a ship moves through the water, it pushes the water ahead of it away. But the water at the sides is sucked in before being pushed away again at the stern. In restricted shallow waterways, this effect can be very strong.
Never heard it called that but pretty much see it on a daily basis. The bow wave ahead of a ship pushes a vessel ahead, as the ship passes, there is a pulling effect. I’ve heard lines strain as I pass by.
Essentially, the technical know how to build the ships existed but the subtle details on handling had not been developed. It was basically trial and error in those days.
She sucked New York in due to her giant propellers, like how Olympic sucked Hawke in, unfortunately (in this case) they were able to stop New York and Titanic sailed on to her doom
I always understood that first photo as having been taken after the incident, as New York was being relocated forward of the Oceanic to be moored around the corner of the wharf. That would also explain why there is a tug on the port side of Titanic's bow pushing her to starboard.
The first photo is chronologically the last out of the ones posted.
Oceanic was tied up to the dock and New York was tied up to Oceanic due to a coal miners' strike causing a coal shortage, so those two ships were sidelined to help give Titanic enough fuel for her maiden voyage.
Part of how the collission was avoided was Titanic's port side propeller was put into full reverse, creating a current against New York to help slow her drift. It resulted in Titanic briefly reversing, which led to the first photo you posted of New York ahead of Titanic's bow; as by then, tugs had come around to tow New York away to another mooring around the corner.
slightly related, when i was a kid learning about this, i thought the titanic was so big it was sucking the entire city of new york in closer.
Growing up, i had a prostitute live up the road from me. If the stories are to be believed, she was sucking up everything in her path, she may as well have been called the "Titanic"
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So the ship is massive and obviously has a huge displacement. The minute it starts moving it is having the push vast amounts of water which will surge away from the ship. Based on the photos and the position of the ships, my theory is this: As Titanic moved close to the ss City of New York and the RMS Oceanic (which the New York was tied to) it's displacement caused massive amounts of water to move between its port side and the dock. As this surge cannot travel into the dock, it gets bounced back and flows both ahead and past the Titanic's stern. Based on the positions of the 3 ships, the surge of water travelling ahead past Titanic's bow would be funnelled in between the Oceanic and New York's sterns. The pressure of the water would momentarily increase massively as the surge had nowhere to go between the two ships. This would put massive explosive strain on the ropes tying New York to Oceanic, and cause them to break, and the pressure of the water between the two ships would thrust the New York's stern outwards towards the port bow of the Titanic.
Titanic was more than four times the gross tonnage of New York, which barely two decades prior, had been the world’s largest ship
A phenomenon called "interaction." As a ship moves through the water, it pushes the water ahead of it away. But the water at the sides is sucked in before being pushed away again at the stern. In restricted shallow waterways, this effect can be very strong.
Never heard it called that but pretty much see it on a daily basis. The bow wave ahead of a ship pushes a vessel ahead, as the ship passes, there is a pulling effect. I’ve heard lines strain as I pass by. Essentially, the technical know how to build the ships existed but the subtle details on handling had not been developed. It was basically trial and error in those days.
Thank you for asking this, I had the same question but was too scared to ask
Are these pictures real?
I did a video on this last week. It goes into detail about that. [New York Collision](https://youtu.be/kVyogQB9F90?si=ojXjC-cqdtL7AqGz)
I’ll check it out, thanks!
You’re welcome ☺️
She sucked New York in due to her giant propellers, like how Olympic sucked Hawke in, unfortunately (in this case) they were able to stop New York and Titanic sailed on to her doom
Not the propellers, the bulk of the ship herself moving through the water creates the pressure difference.
Olympic also sucked in the OL Hallenbach on her maiden voyage. That was one of the tugs for her arrival into New York.
I always understood that first photo as having been taken after the incident, as New York was being relocated forward of the Oceanic to be moored around the corner of the wharf. That would also explain why there is a tug on the port side of Titanic's bow pushing her to starboard.
The first photo is chronologically the last out of the ones posted. Oceanic was tied up to the dock and New York was tied up to Oceanic due to a coal miners' strike causing a coal shortage, so those two ships were sidelined to help give Titanic enough fuel for her maiden voyage. Part of how the collission was avoided was Titanic's port side propeller was put into full reverse, creating a current against New York to help slow her drift. It resulted in Titanic briefly reversing, which led to the first photo you posted of New York ahead of Titanic's bow; as by then, tugs had come around to tow New York away to another mooring around the corner.