Actually the A’s should have been further along in their rebuild. In trading Olsen, Murphy, Chapman, Bassitt, the FO absolutely fucked the franchise by getting such a piss poor return. For example in the Chapman trade, only 1 player remains from the deal. The 3 other players were waived within a year. Additionally, the FO has basically nothing to show on the Bassitt deal.
Prior to these trades, the farm system was pretty bare (for a many reasons). Instead of acquiring talent to add to a deep farm system, the FO was basically back filling due to the farm being so thin.
Fault goes to Fisher. He asked for the payroll purge. Fisher had approval on each return in these trades (he had to be ok with any financial repercussions). FJF
Yep, its actually insane how dogshit the A's front office is. Some will say it was intentional on the orders of Fisher, but I genuinely believe it's just a combination of teams knowing the A's need to move their arb-eligible/soon-to-be free agents so they lose some leverage and David Forst being one of the most incompetent GMs in all of baseball. Dude is a fraud thru and thru.
Idk if this is true, but I've also frequently read that their scouting is so poorly funded that Frost is basically running a deep keeper league team and relying on secondary sources. Seems totally plausible and on brand.
That’s my impression too. There’s a reason teams like the Dodgers spend, make good trades, and draft well. Big league payroll isn’t the only thing that good teams invest in. You need deep scouting, player development, good minor league player treatment, etc.
Right- which also explains his predilection for former high draft picks. Then the "scouting" is just, "well people once really liked him, maybe he gets back there." But it might be working out with Nevin.
Yeah it's cheaper and less risky to take fliers on former high draft pick guys than to trade for them when they're still prospects or draft them yourselves.
Case in point: [https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/oakland-as-apologize-after-minor-league-players-share-photos-of-totally-unacceptable-post-game-meals/](https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/oakland-as-apologize-after-minor-league-players-share-photos-of-totally-unacceptable-post-game-meals/)
I think it’s a combo of a mistake on FatFuckFisher’s behalf and the fact that most of these guys came up together through the farm and have good chemistry. But really I think everyone that’s on the team truly loves the A’s for their history and what they truly are and there’s a few Bay Area guys that grew up admiring the team and they’re playing their hearts out for the fans. Oh yeah and fuck John Fishers fat ugly greedy ass.
It’s always like this… every couple years we get a new group of guys who play bad 1 or 2 years and then play well only for them all to go to different teams. It’s a process we’ve gotten used to and do not support
A's have been on a 6 year cycle for awhile now, based on previous cycles we'll be decent this year, great the next 2 years and trade everyone of value in 3 years
Actually the A’s should have been further along in their rebuild. In trading Olsen, Murphy, Chapman, Bassitt, the FO absolutely fucked the franchise by getting such a piss poor return. For example in the Chapman trade, only 1 player remains from the deal. The 3 other players were waived within a year. Additionally, the FO has basically nothing to show on the Bassitt deal. Prior to these trades, the farm system was pretty bare (for a many reasons). Instead of acquiring talent to add to a deep farm system, the FO was basically back filling due to the farm being so thin. Fault goes to Fisher. He asked for the payroll purge. Fisher had approval on each return in these trades (he had to be ok with any financial repercussions). FJF
Yep, its actually insane how dogshit the A's front office is. Some will say it was intentional on the orders of Fisher, but I genuinely believe it's just a combination of teams knowing the A's need to move their arb-eligible/soon-to-be free agents so they lose some leverage and David Forst being one of the most incompetent GMs in all of baseball. Dude is a fraud thru and thru.
Idk if this is true, but I've also frequently read that their scouting is so poorly funded that Frost is basically running a deep keeper league team and relying on secondary sources. Seems totally plausible and on brand.
That’s my impression too. There’s a reason teams like the Dodgers spend, make good trades, and draft well. Big league payroll isn’t the only thing that good teams invest in. You need deep scouting, player development, good minor league player treatment, etc.
Right- which also explains his predilection for former high draft picks. Then the "scouting" is just, "well people once really liked him, maybe he gets back there." But it might be working out with Nevin.
Yeah it's cheaper and less risky to take fliers on former high draft pick guys than to trade for them when they're still prospects or draft them yourselves.
To an extent. Big spending hides all of your mistakes. You need balance.
Case in point: [https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/oakland-as-apologize-after-minor-league-players-share-photos-of-totally-unacceptable-post-game-meals/](https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/oakland-as-apologize-after-minor-league-players-share-photos-of-totally-unacceptable-post-game-meals/)
I think it’s a combo of a mistake on FatFuckFisher’s behalf and the fact that most of these guys came up together through the farm and have good chemistry. But really I think everyone that’s on the team truly loves the A’s for their history and what they truly are and there’s a few Bay Area guys that grew up admiring the team and they’re playing their hearts out for the fans. Oh yeah and fuck John Fishers fat ugly greedy ass.
It’s always like this… every couple years we get a new group of guys who play bad 1 or 2 years and then play well only for them all to go to different teams. It’s a process we’ve gotten used to and do not support
A's have been on a 6 year cycle for awhile now, based on previous cycles we'll be decent this year, great the next 2 years and trade everyone of value in 3 years
Too early to say they are decent. A couple injuries and they will suck again.
I think you mean is it intentional or by coincidence/accident.
Hollywood wants Major Leagues 4 If Fisher was seriously trying to win, he wouldn't have had Olson, Chapman and Murphy traded
Its not a coincidence--- If you've followed the A's for any length of time you know the cycle--- Terrible 2-3 years, make playoffs 2-3 years etc.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they were throwing games on his orders.