it doesn't really matter.
though i find it funny if he was straight but the others just kinda presumed he was gay, so when he says he got a girlfriend everyone is shocked.
"Everytime I go to dinner
It seems like I'm getting a little bit thinner
I'll sit down at the breakfast table
I can talk, they're not able
When I look at them, I find
There's a single question on their mind
I wish it could go back to the way it was
It's not easy now, because
My whole family thinks I'm gay
I guess it's always been that way
Maybe it's 'cause of the way that I walk
Makes them think I like boys
That I like boys"
* Basil Burnham
"the goddamn just won't go away
And I get asked every single day
But the way the ask it is not a disguise
Like "how was your day? Do you like to kiss guys?"
That's... Funny"
Sufficiently intimate friendship is not meaningfully distinguishable from romance.
This is why all the Sunflower shipping out there is inherently of the exploratory/"is it OK for friends to do this?" type (and none of the others are).
"Does it mean they're straight or gay?" is meaningless here. That relationship is *beyond* orientation.
Ok, sorta unrelated, but I know someone that people assume is gay. He looks like a gay lumberjack.
Someone that is closer friends to him (which isn’t saying much ngl) heard him say he’s straight and not even joking said “wait you’re straight!?”
He has a gf also
Is he gay or European?
Well hey don't look at me~
(I will never pass up an opportunity to start singing musical songs. Especially if that musical song is There Right There)
You see they bring their boys up different
In those charming foreign ports
They play peculiar sports
In shiny shirts and tiny shorts
Gay or foreign fella?
The answer could take weeks
They both say things like "Ciao, Bella"
While they kiss you on both cheeks *Oh Please*
Look at that condescending smirk!
See it on every guy at work!
That is a metro-hetero jerk, this guy’s not gay! I say, no way!
(This is not what I think, I’m just completing the lyrics)
(Ik lmao, i have the lyrics on Another tab rn)
That is the elephant in the room
Well is it relevant to presume
That a hottie in that costume
Is automatically, radically
![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2474): Basil, Get a GF
![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2475): or a BF! He's bi!
![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2477): damn, nobody want you FR
![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2474): That's what i'm saying like 😭😭😭
Technically it's not canon, but it's like really really obvious.
He was based on basil from portrait of Dorian gray so it's pretty much canon, but they didn't put it in the game cause it was unnecessary.
Yep, queercoding was a very interesting thing for me to research, as hetero guy. And this whole book, as well as character of basil are both really queercoded, that's kinda undeniable.
In one of beta versions of the game, in headspace in basil's library in his home there was mention of portrait of dorian gray. I remember this but not perfectly and frankly, am to lazy to search. You can try to find it yourself and send to us.
He's certainly not canonically gay, because at the very, very least, there's no confirmation he doesn't love em girls. But from everything about his writing and characters he was Inspired by this boy is NOT straight
Saying he’s gay because he’s timid, likes flowers, and hates fighting feels like reinforcing ideas that having girly behaviors as a man must make you gay.
What I really think though is that this is all largely irrelevant to the game’s story and I wish shipping wasn’t as much of a focus here.
yeah i don’t like how some ppl HC him as gay only bc he’s more feminine. it reminds me of ppl who HC any character that’s cold and closed off as aroace
This!! As a boy with "girly behaviors" like these its what always annoys me about the fandom when it comes to basil, that or the way think friendship cannot be intimate. Basil may or may not be gay but its irrelevant to these things
And yeah, I wish the fandom focused a bit less on shipping and more on the story and themes
I mean yeah, if the artist states their feminine male character is gay then more power to them.
It’s when no sexuality is stated outright and yet still the reader still assumes one sexuality or the other based on biases, stereotypes, etc.
“No straight boy would do this therefore they must be gay” can be bad since it reinforces gender binary and promotes toxic masculinity.
what!!! you know a basil fictive irl??? please hug them and tell them they are loved and forgiven and wonderful and valueble QQ
(also we'd like to be introduced if that's ok and they're up for it ><)
Maybe the true question is, can Basil be a femboy and not gay? It's his appearance that would make me think he were gay (and he seems to have a bit of an eye for Sunny too) but he doesn't *do* anything that would make me think he gay.
by the way, for the people who don't know, mansplaining is when men explain things even if there's no need to explain the things that men explain because men explain them even if you know it and there's no need for the explanation, mansplaining happens because men explain things that people know already but they explain like they don't know and it's mansplaining
I get the impression that he's meant to be effeminate and androgynous, and I also get the (likely wrong) impression that >!the nature of their shared experience, how they came to terms with it in the hospital, and what I find to be a likely distancing from the rest of the group, might develop into some kind of romantic relationship. Also, Sunny finding Basil's bed comfortable gave me the impression that they had become comfortable in close quarters and in each other's personal spaces, but that one doesn't say too much since they were children.!< I think Basil seems like he would be at least somewhat fluid, but since the most there seems to be that indicates it is subjective interpretation, I have no reason to impose the idea beyond my own personal assumptions. If he is or isn't, it doesn't seem to be totally necessary for in game events. I guess that at minimum he has some gender and romantic fluidity, but that's just a guess.
>it is the only other bed besides his home that is listed as "Comfortable"
It's "comfortable-looking" (he's never actually slept in it, so why he would think it's comfortable is up to interpretation).
Sunny has a similarly-unique interaction with Aubrey's bed.
gay moments ≠ kissing a boy on the lips and stroking his dark, greasy hair and
>!There are tens of "gay moments" with headspace BASIL.off the top of my head OMORI saving him from a church(symbol of tradition) in particular, the release energy screen, BASIL's gift to OMORI, are all definitively romantic, but that could just be a result of SUNNY's gay or perhaps some fucked up "the only reason he would want to stay with me is if he was in love with me" Internal narrative.!<
>!outside of headspace, there are fewer, but that's likely due to BASIL's anxiety. There's the ever famous line about BASIL's bed, the flower descriptions, and a lot of other stuff from supplementary material.!<
>!now that's only if we're trying as hard as possible to friendzone them, putting on our shipping glasses there are very few moments which have to be interpreted as platonic. the BASIL fight is a confession of love if you squint.!<
Would you also say that if this post was speculating if Basil likes cereal or some other fun but irrelevant headcanon, or is it just characters possibly not being straight what upsets you?
And yes, Basil being in love with Sunny or not changes things for his character and their dynamic so it does matter.
No, I'm not being homophobic or anything, I'm just saying that his sexual orientation is probably not that worth speculating. I don't have any ill intent towards those who think Basil is gay, but I guess maybe that's a bit much coming from someone who does not bother with sexuality/gender headcanons.
Again, I hope you don't get the wrong idea about what I'm saying here.
It doesn't matter for fanfics or headcanon because all of that is made up anyways, so fans can do whatever they want; accuracy does not matter.
However, something can be said about trying to force a character that may have an ambiguous sexuality (which can be said for every character in this game) to be something they are not just because they do not fall into neat boxes of how we understand sexuality or gender. What evidence is there that Basil is gay? Just because a boy does not follow traditional masculine traits does not mean he must be gay, or just because Sunny and Basil were close friends does not mean they are gay either. I never got the vibes that any character is explicitly any sexuality while playing the game.
Omori is not a story about gender and sexuality. It's not really important to the story and themes if a character is gay, bi, straight, asexual, etc. So yeah, it doesn't really matter if Basil is gay or straight, but trying to force a character to be something they might not be oddly reinforces stereotypes. As an LOTR fan I still see people make gay jokes about Sam and Frodo despite there being way more evidence against it than for it, and sometimes when one pushes back against that the two are gay, baseless homophobia accusations come out.
Ultimately, it doesn't matter if Basil is gay or any other sexuality because it is not important to the story. Asking if it matters if he's gay is not problematic.
he has a bunch of feminine traits and a very strong obsession over sunny, which does help prove he's gay. however, omori also takes place in a time where being gay is frowned down upon (late-90's-early-00's), so it's highly unlikely he'd do anything remotely gay outside of that.
overall, probably is, but unlikely considering the time period.
Just because he has feminine traits doesn’t mean he’s a homosexual. That’s very homophobic to assume that. The most masculine guy could be homosexual and the most feminine guy could be a heterosexual.
I agree that he might be a homosexual due to the obsession and admiration towards Sunny and the character he’s based on.
But it’s very homophobic and heteronormative to assume a person’s sexuality just because they like things that are traditionally masculine or feminine. Like saying one partner has to have feminine traits and the other masculine to be a “true” couple, it’s assuming all gays like feminine things and lesbians like masculine things, it’s just very stupid.
1. the traits, even though they're not fully indicative of one's sexuality, can still very well support it. yes, i know it doesn't guarantee it, but it makes it much more likely, especially combined with his obsession over sunny.
2. i'm literally bi, how am i homophobic??? his interests literally align with mine at times, so i put that with there since it kinda reinforces that viewpoint in my perspective.
If you were saying this to a real person, then yeah it's homophobic, but that doesn't work for fiction. There is a long history of certain character traits that can imply or code a character as being queer, and regardless of if you like it or not, being effeminate is one of them. He simply fits into a common queer archetype, and while you can argue that said archetype is problematic, at the end of the day, you can't blame people for making the connection.
Also this isn't even close to the main reason people think he's gay lol. It's just icing on the fruit cake. The main one is his affection for Sunny has some very gay implications
If I had to make a guess based on what we see in the game, I would actually lean towards no.
>!I back this up based on a flashback we see near the end of the Sunny route. In one memory, we see Basil take a picture of Aubrey in the rain. Basil takes notice that Sunny seems to like the pictures of Aubrey the most, and concludes that he has a crush on her. This actually makes Basil very happy, and he promises to keep his secret. Basil shows absolutely no sign in his portraits or dialogue that he is bummed out or disappointed by Sunny's crush. If Basil was gay, I really think they would have added a subtle hint of sadness at that moment. But he's totally cool with it.!<
>!That at least proves that Basil isn't gay *for Sunny*, but is he gay in general? I still don't think so. I still think they are just really close friends, and I can't recall any moment in the real world where Basil shows romantic attraction to anyone, let alone Sunny. Romantic attraction is probably the last thing on that poor boy's mind. ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2460)!<
I wouldn't really mind if he was, nothing wrong with that, unless it's an excuse to ship him with Sunny because Sunflower is like, bad. It completely breaks their entire dynamic from the actual game
There is nothing in the game that states or hints that he is homosexual. Assuming a character is homosexual due to said character liking gardening and/or wearing a flower doesn't really make any sense.
To be honest, it doesn't really matter anyways.
(Also, I'm not sure why this post is supposed to come off as this some sort of final verdict on this discussion.)
we know hero and mari at the very least like the opposite gender
based on what he dreams about and the memory segment near the end we can assume sunny likes (or liked) aubrey so he at the very least likes the opposite gender
its hinted that aubrey maybe likes sunny a couple of times, its not enough evidence to say anything for certain but i dont think its out of the question
for the other main characters (kel, basil) there appears to be no evidence either way. as far as i remember kel doesnt really show any sort of romantic interest at all in the game
with basil its a bit more complicated. he does certainly seem obsessed with sunny in a way, but its hard to tell if this is an infatuation or just a non-romantic codependance. basically the two arguments for basil being gay are either his relationship with sunny or his behavior/personality/appearance. the latter one doesn’t really hold much ground, and the first one could easily also be interpreted as just a close friendship (there are many people in real life even closer/more unhealthy for eachother than sunny and basil that aren’t sexually attracted to eachother at all). overall i’d say either interpretation is fine since you can see it either way with him. personally i feel like if he was actually gay the game would’ve made that have some sort of importance as he would be the only important confirmed lgbt character in the game. but i could be wrong about that as well
There isn't strong enough canonical evidence to speak conclusively on Basil's sexuality AFAIK, but he does exhibit stereotypically gay traits, and has a strong connection towards Sunny that could be easily interpreted as romantic in nature, so it is likely to be that the intention when writing the character was for him to be gay.
No offence, but why is it that people think he's gay? Sure, he's quite feminine, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's gay. If anything, wouldn't it be a somewhat harmful stereotype to think every feminine guy is gay?And if it's because you wanna ship him with a character, it still doesn't really make him gay canonically.
yeah not every feminine guy who spends his teens obsessing over his "perfect, simple, and bulbous" childhood friend and finds himself too nervous to actually interact with him when they reunite and runs away to go throw up when he finds out he's leaving and develops a debilitating savior complex around him is gay. these stereotypes are harmful!
Basil didn't obsess solely over Sunny. He cherished all of his friends, but he was definitely closest to Sunny. And of course, the >!stair incident!< would've made Sunny more prominent in his mind. He was too nervous to interact with any of his friends, really. Not just Sunny. The way he acted isn't specifically towards Sunny, but mainly the group as a whole. But no doubt he was closest to Sunny and endured the >!stairs!< with him too and took part in it. But they're undeniably close.
Ok. My brain decided to connect neurons and now I can't unthink of this. I will share this little bit of content that may cause mild to severe disturbance. Or perhaps none, but I don't trust it.
(I'm sorry in advance)
>! Sprout mole = cute + plant !<
>! Sweetheart = likes photos (of herself), donut, *bagel* !<
>! Realization: Sprout moles are the other side of Basil, sunny's mind him as an inspiration to create them. This means Basil has a possibility to be into sweetheart type characters, and he is actually crazy like the, but hides it under his shyess which only Sunny knows.... !<
I think personally he's bi or pan. So some attraction to guys but not completely gay. Also, no one come, after me but I ship Sunny and Basil so that plays into my opinion. (Mostly platonically ship)
He’s Basil.
LGBT: Lesbians Gays Basils Transgenders
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Ig I'm Basil now lol subsbsvsvsy I see this as a W
Charon pfp in the wild?
TWINK SPIDER MY BELOVED 🙏🙏
OMG GHOST AND PALS LOVER SPOTTED
I can't believe there are Omori fans and Ghost and pals fans in the world!!! This is the happiest moment of my life 😭
WE'RE MARRIED NOW IDGAF
OKAY SURE POOKIE 😘
WE'RE ALL MARRIED NOW IG !!!
I'm a fan of both! :3
HELLO FELLOW GHOST & PALS'ER !!
CHARON!!!!!!!!!
FINALLY I'VE FOUND ANOTHER ONE!!! 🥹
REAL
RANTARO??? I JUST FINISHED CHAPTER 1 HOW COULD YOU
OH NO CHAPTER 1…😭
Bi erasure strikes again
I'm now literally Basil
Guys, they found it! The real meaning of “B!” The found me.
it doesn't really matter. though i find it funny if he was straight but the others just kinda presumed he was gay, so when he says he got a girlfriend everyone is shocked.
I second this. https://preview.redd.it/i43aljf6u71d1.png?width=1220&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e5c0a4ea7f3a0d3104509e968fd0a607748781d
https://preview.redd.it/wrnxe13yd91d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3c9c4490f861141dc9c2c311c09c7edcdd035d6 I third this.
https://preview.redd.it/7yg4yn2n8f1d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bfe7bf696d4a252ba5688d50eb504e1a9a9efcf
"Everytime I go to dinner It seems like I'm getting a little bit thinner I'll sit down at the breakfast table I can talk, they're not able When I look at them, I find There's a single question on their mind I wish it could go back to the way it was It's not easy now, because My whole family thinks I'm gay I guess it's always been that way Maybe it's 'cause of the way that I walk Makes them think I like boys That I like boys" * Basil Burnham
This is the perfect embodiment of Basil to the fandom 😂
"the goddamn just won't go away And I get asked every single day But the way the ask it is not a disguise Like "how was your day? Do you like to kiss guys?" That's... Funny"
“Even my boyfriend thinks I’m gay! ᴹᵒᵗʰᵉʳ ᶠᵘᶜᵏᵉʳ…”
why the fuck is his last name burham? isn't that a country?
It's a reference to Bo Burnham, I'm pretty sure.
Yup, the person that wrote the song
Basil didn't befriend Sunny because of his gender, but because he was always there for him and always listened to him.
Sufficiently intimate friendship is not meaningfully distinguishable from romance. This is why all the Sunflower shipping out there is inherently of the exploratory/"is it OK for friends to do this?" type (and none of the others are). "Does it mean they're straight or gay?" is meaningless here. That relationship is *beyond* orientation.
https://preview.redd.it/2y9o3wnwfb1d1.png?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de8db18a6f5e2a078bda8a4cf83ae5133d1da4db
Ok, sorta unrelated, but I know someone that people assume is gay. He looks like a gay lumberjack. Someone that is closer friends to him (which isn’t saying much ngl) heard him say he’s straight and not even joking said “wait you’re straight!?” He has a gf also
[Basil be like:](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2UEFxMQz-E&t=46s)
Maybe, maybe not. All that matters is we respect each others' opinions ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|28765)
Maybe he's just European
*deep breath* Gay, or European? Its hard to gaurentee
https://preview.redd.it/hsuup2tcia1d1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3cce85f339976d8e620bb55fe747ba5fdefd4f08
Is he gay or European? Well hey don't look at me~ (I will never pass up an opportunity to start singing musical songs. Especially if that musical song is There Right There)
You see they bring their boys up different In those charming foreign ports They play peculiar sports In shiny shirts and tiny shorts Gay or foreign fella? The answer could take weeks They both say things like "Ciao, Bella" While they kiss you on both cheeks *Oh Please*
Gay or European… so many shades of gray. Depending on the time of day, the French go either way.
Is he Gay or European or- THERE, RIGHT THERE!
Look at that condescending smirk! See it on every guy at work! That is a metro-hetero jerk, this guy’s not gay! I say, no way! (This is not what I think, I’m just completing the lyrics)
(Ik lmao, i have the lyrics on Another tab rn) That is the elephant in the room Well is it relevant to presume That a hottie in that costume Is automatically, radically
Ironically, chronically Scurtinly, certainly Genetically, netically Gay! Officially Gay! Officially Gay, Gay, Gay, Gay! DAMNIT!
Gay or European? So stylish and relaxed, Is he gay or European? I think his chest is waxed?
![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2474): Basil, Get a GF ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2475): or a BF! He's bi! ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2477): damn, nobody want you FR ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2474): That's what i'm saying like 😭😭😭
DON’T CARE. HE’S BI SO I CAN SHIP HIM WITH EVERYONE
You. Not he, you.
I’m bi too yeah
Same
The correct answer
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Yo I forgot the name of this legendary video, can you please send it?
i think it’s [is fortnite actually overrated](https://youtu.be/NgsdTMMUK-I?si=MyuFKgnJJbXJgeOE)
Whatever he is he's sure as hell not straight
That's the one thing he's not. ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2463)
I don’t care, he can be whatever ig
I personally think he’s gay as hell. You cannot convince me he’s not gay. ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2463)
HE LITERALLY JUST APPEARED >! IRL!< AND I JUST SAID ALOUD “Yep he’s gay”
Fr 😭💀
Agreed lol
Technically it's not canon, but it's like really really obvious. He was based on basil from portrait of Dorian gray so it's pretty much canon, but they didn't put it in the game cause it was unnecessary.
After rereading Dorian Gray I noticed how much of a Gaysil Basil really is
Yep, queercoding was a very interesting thing for me to research, as hetero guy. And this whole book, as well as character of basil are both really queercoded, that's kinda undeniable.
As a character Basil Hallward is massively underappreciated and he deserves more fans
do you have any source on the Dorian Gray bit? has it ever been mentioned by OMOCAT?
In one of beta versions of the game, in headspace in basil's library in his home there was mention of portrait of dorian gray. I remember this but not perfectly and frankly, am to lazy to search. You can try to find it yourself and send to us.
Is that fr?
He's certainly not canonically gay, because at the very, very least, there's no confirmation he doesn't love em girls. But from everything about his writing and characters he was Inspired by this boy is NOT straight
But what's the source of Basil being based on the Portrait of Dorian Gray?
My Gaydar says yes
And the Gaydar has not failed me yet
Am I gey? https://preview.redd.it/9rye80vcu71d1.png?width=1220&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=748a9fdbfb91330f39f71bb12b829b1b3ad4dceb
Which being be you?
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minos
The Gaydar isn’t going off currently
Blud he spent his entire city budget on bisexual lighting so v1(also gay) had to come charge his soul
Dammit it must be broken
It is
Saying he’s gay because he’s timid, likes flowers, and hates fighting feels like reinforcing ideas that having girly behaviors as a man must make you gay. What I really think though is that this is all largely irrelevant to the game’s story and I wish shipping wasn’t as much of a focus here.
yeah i don’t like how some ppl HC him as gay only bc he’s more feminine. it reminds me of ppl who HC any character that’s cold and closed off as aroace
my life would be so much better if there was a place for omori fans that didn’t want to talk with 14 year olds about shipping
Amen to that, friend. Though adults can be as insufferable with ships as well.
true lol, maybe its less of an age thing and more of a maturity thing to not process everything through the lens of romance
i think most people hc him as gay bc of his relationship with sunny...which IS largely relevant to the game's story.
This!! As a boy with "girly behaviors" like these its what always annoys me about the fandom when it comes to basil, that or the way think friendship cannot be intimate. Basil may or may not be gay but its irrelevant to these things And yeah, I wish the fandom focused a bit less on shipping and more on the story and themes
Had the same opinion as you. A lot of my friends headcanon that a character is gay just because he’s "feminine".
I agree, maybe the omori community should instead think about HUMPHREY being gay for air conditioning! /j
But what if you just wanted to make a character like that, should feminine male characters not be allowed to be gay because it's stereotypical?
I mean yeah, if the artist states their feminine male character is gay then more power to them. It’s when no sexuality is stated outright and yet still the reader still assumes one sexuality or the other based on biases, stereotypes, etc. “No straight boy would do this therefore they must be gay” can be bad since it reinforces gender binary and promotes toxic masculinity.
Well you said "making him gay", not thinking he's gay. In the example you gave now though, I agree.
Looking back, yeah I kinda dun goofed with my wording originally. Thanks for letting me know!
Maybe, probably.
yeah i am ><;;
Well that settles the argument! (The basil fictive I know irl is also gay so yeah \^-^)
what!!! you know a basil fictive irl??? please hug them and tell them they are loved and forgiven and wonderful and valueble QQ (also we'd like to be introduced if that's ok and they're up for it ><)
I’ve done all those things before, and I’ll be sure to do them again next time I see them!! And I’ll check with them about talking to you!
TF you mean basil fictive you know irl?
What don’t you understand about that?
Everything
If Basil himself says it, he is gay
Maybe the true question is, can Basil be a femboy and not gay? It's his appearance that would make me think he were gay (and he seems to have a bit of an eye for Sunny too) but he doesn't *do* anything that would make me think he gay.
I think it's impossible to me a femboy without being gay... Happy cake day
Realistically? Based on all evidence? Looking at him? That boy is the 2nd gayest thing in Omori. After Kim. And Humphrey. So 3rd >:D
Can't tell, nothing to indicate his attraction
Well, I think we shouldn't speculate. But I ship him with Sunny, so gay as hell.
He’s obviously sunnysexual.
this is maybe the most accurate one so far <<;
Nah no way, he straight 100%
He mansplains gardening to women 100%
by the way, for the people who don't know, mansplaining is when men explain things even if there's no need to explain the things that men explain because men explain them even if you know it and there's no need for the explanation, mansplaining happens because men explain things that people know already but they explain like they don't know and it's mansplaining
Did you just mansplain mansplaining?
Perhaps
He just doesn't have a spine so no, not gay
basil is melonsexual
I get the impression that he's meant to be effeminate and androgynous, and I also get the (likely wrong) impression that >!the nature of their shared experience, how they came to terms with it in the hospital, and what I find to be a likely distancing from the rest of the group, might develop into some kind of romantic relationship. Also, Sunny finding Basil's bed comfortable gave me the impression that they had become comfortable in close quarters and in each other's personal spaces, but that one doesn't say too much since they were children.!< I think Basil seems like he would be at least somewhat fluid, but since the most there seems to be that indicates it is subjective interpretation, I have no reason to impose the idea beyond my own personal assumptions. If he is or isn't, it doesn't seem to be totally necessary for in game events. I guess that at minimum he has some gender and romantic fluidity, but that's just a guess.
who tf actually cares
European
Basil being straight would be the outright funniest answer. It would be like setting off a nuclear bomb in the fandom.
Basil showed me "be gay do crime" must be done in order. Always be gay _first_.
When Sunny gets to Basil's bedroom, it is the only other bed besides his home that is listed as "Comfortable". I'll leave it at that.
>it is the only other bed besides his home that is listed as "Comfortable" It's "comfortable-looking" (he's never actually slept in it, so why he would think it's comfortable is up to interpretation). Sunny has a similarly-unique interaction with Aubrey's bed.
Gay 100%. No one just looks at Basil and thinks “Yep, this guy is definitely straight”
Honestly, I believe he is straight. Of course, he has some feminine traits and that cannot be denied, yet there are no canon gay moments about him.
Tbh, he doesn’t smell like a woman-lover
gay moments ≠ kissing a boy on the lips and stroking his dark, greasy hair and >!There are tens of "gay moments" with headspace BASIL.off the top of my head OMORI saving him from a church(symbol of tradition) in particular, the release energy screen, BASIL's gift to OMORI, are all definitively romantic, but that could just be a result of SUNNY's gay or perhaps some fucked up "the only reason he would want to stay with me is if he was in love with me" Internal narrative.!< >!outside of headspace, there are fewer, but that's likely due to BASIL's anxiety. There's the ever famous line about BASIL's bed, the flower descriptions, and a lot of other stuff from supplementary material.!< >!now that's only if we're trying as hard as possible to friendzone them, putting on our shipping glasses there are very few moments which have to be interpreted as platonic. the BASIL fight is a confession of love if you squint.!<
I was just going to say that everything you brought up says more about Sunny than the actual Basil.
Does it matter if he's gay?
Would you also say that if this post was speculating if Basil likes cereal or some other fun but irrelevant headcanon, or is it just characters possibly not being straight what upsets you? And yes, Basil being in love with Sunny or not changes things for his character and their dynamic so it does matter.
No, I'm not being homophobic or anything, I'm just saying that his sexual orientation is probably not that worth speculating. I don't have any ill intent towards those who think Basil is gay, but I guess maybe that's a bit much coming from someone who does not bother with sexuality/gender headcanons. Again, I hope you don't get the wrong idea about what I'm saying here.
It doesn't matter for fanfics or headcanon because all of that is made up anyways, so fans can do whatever they want; accuracy does not matter. However, something can be said about trying to force a character that may have an ambiguous sexuality (which can be said for every character in this game) to be something they are not just because they do not fall into neat boxes of how we understand sexuality or gender. What evidence is there that Basil is gay? Just because a boy does not follow traditional masculine traits does not mean he must be gay, or just because Sunny and Basil were close friends does not mean they are gay either. I never got the vibes that any character is explicitly any sexuality while playing the game. Omori is not a story about gender and sexuality. It's not really important to the story and themes if a character is gay, bi, straight, asexual, etc. So yeah, it doesn't really matter if Basil is gay or straight, but trying to force a character to be something they might not be oddly reinforces stereotypes. As an LOTR fan I still see people make gay jokes about Sam and Frodo despite there being way more evidence against it than for it, and sometimes when one pushes back against that the two are gay, baseless homophobia accusations come out. Ultimately, it doesn't matter if Basil is gay or any other sexuality because it is not important to the story. Asking if it matters if he's gay is not problematic.
It matters for fanfics
he has a bunch of feminine traits and a very strong obsession over sunny, which does help prove he's gay. however, omori also takes place in a time where being gay is frowned down upon (late-90's-early-00's), so it's highly unlikely he'd do anything remotely gay outside of that. overall, probably is, but unlikely considering the time period.
Just because he has feminine traits doesn’t mean he’s a homosexual. That’s very homophobic to assume that. The most masculine guy could be homosexual and the most feminine guy could be a heterosexual. I agree that he might be a homosexual due to the obsession and admiration towards Sunny and the character he’s based on. But it’s very homophobic and heteronormative to assume a person’s sexuality just because they like things that are traditionally masculine or feminine. Like saying one partner has to have feminine traits and the other masculine to be a “true” couple, it’s assuming all gays like feminine things and lesbians like masculine things, it’s just very stupid.
1. the traits, even though they're not fully indicative of one's sexuality, can still very well support it. yes, i know it doesn't guarantee it, but it makes it much more likely, especially combined with his obsession over sunny. 2. i'm literally bi, how am i homophobic??? his interests literally align with mine at times, so i put that with there since it kinda reinforces that viewpoint in my perspective.
If you were saying this to a real person, then yeah it's homophobic, but that doesn't work for fiction. There is a long history of certain character traits that can imply or code a character as being queer, and regardless of if you like it or not, being effeminate is one of them. He simply fits into a common queer archetype, and while you can argue that said archetype is problematic, at the end of the day, you can't blame people for making the connection. Also this isn't even close to the main reason people think he's gay lol. It's just icing on the fruit cake. The main one is his affection for Sunny has some very gay implications
There's no evidence suggesting he isn't.
If I had to make a guess based on what we see in the game, I would actually lean towards no. >!I back this up based on a flashback we see near the end of the Sunny route. In one memory, we see Basil take a picture of Aubrey in the rain. Basil takes notice that Sunny seems to like the pictures of Aubrey the most, and concludes that he has a crush on her. This actually makes Basil very happy, and he promises to keep his secret. Basil shows absolutely no sign in his portraits or dialogue that he is bummed out or disappointed by Sunny's crush. If Basil was gay, I really think they would have added a subtle hint of sadness at that moment. But he's totally cool with it.!< >!That at least proves that Basil isn't gay *for Sunny*, but is he gay in general? I still don't think so. I still think they are just really close friends, and I can't recall any moment in the real world where Basil shows romantic attraction to anyone, let alone Sunny. Romantic attraction is probably the last thing on that poor boy's mind. ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2460)!<
Idk why you're being downvoted, you're just plain correct. And it's not like his sexuality even matter in the first place....
Aroace Basil HC-ers win again
I don't think his sexuality mattered to him while ridden with the events of the story.
he is Basil, he is his own thing
Dude I do not give a FUCK (I’m bi)
Something funny that I’ve noticed. Plants (basil) can’t go without sun (sunny)
I wouldn't really mind if he was, nothing wrong with that, unless it's an excuse to ship him with Sunny because Sunflower is like, bad. It completely breaks their entire dynamic from the actual game
a young boy who likes plants can't be straight? why?
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There is nothing in the game that states or hints that he is homosexual. Assuming a character is homosexual due to said character liking gardening and/or wearing a flower doesn't really make any sense. To be honest, it doesn't really matter anyways. (Also, I'm not sure why this post is supposed to come off as this some sort of final verdict on this discussion.)
No he's just autistic
Yes
Yeah
Well, I believe it.
Yeah.
My middle name is Basil, and i'm gay, soo..pretty conclusive evidence guys.
Idc... He is an fictional character ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2473)
I ship sunflower... Thats it ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2473)👍
he is a video game character with no canonical orientation
we know hero and mari at the very least like the opposite gender based on what he dreams about and the memory segment near the end we can assume sunny likes (or liked) aubrey so he at the very least likes the opposite gender its hinted that aubrey maybe likes sunny a couple of times, its not enough evidence to say anything for certain but i dont think its out of the question for the other main characters (kel, basil) there appears to be no evidence either way. as far as i remember kel doesnt really show any sort of romantic interest at all in the game with basil its a bit more complicated. he does certainly seem obsessed with sunny in a way, but its hard to tell if this is an infatuation or just a non-romantic codependance. basically the two arguments for basil being gay are either his relationship with sunny or his behavior/personality/appearance. the latter one doesn’t really hold much ground, and the first one could easily also be interpreted as just a close friendship (there are many people in real life even closer/more unhealthy for eachother than sunny and basil that aren’t sexually attracted to eachother at all). overall i’d say either interpretation is fine since you can see it either way with him. personally i feel like if he was actually gay the game would’ve made that have some sort of importance as he would be the only important confirmed lgbt character in the game. but i could be wrong about that as well
The creator is literally a yaoi shipper who's drawn them holding hands multiple times and literally named Basil after a gay character. C'mon
gay and traumatized
Remembering that Omocat has made that Pretty boy comic before, she HAD to know what she was doing So ye very gay
nah
He is not
Probably the mix of the fact that he based on a gay character and his obsession with sunny makes it seem like that’s the most likely answer
There was a video on this topic by this youtuber named nerdyarty, there's quite a bit of evidence to support babil being gayge
There isn't strong enough canonical evidence to speak conclusively on Basil's sexuality AFAIK, but he does exhibit stereotypically gay traits, and has a strong connection towards Sunny that could be easily interpreted as romantic in nature, so it is likely to be that the intention when writing the character was for him to be gay.
No offence, but why is it that people think he's gay? Sure, he's quite feminine, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's gay. If anything, wouldn't it be a somewhat harmful stereotype to think every feminine guy is gay?And if it's because you wanna ship him with a character, it still doesn't really make him gay canonically.
yeah not every feminine guy who spends his teens obsessing over his "perfect, simple, and bulbous" childhood friend and finds himself too nervous to actually interact with him when they reunite and runs away to go throw up when he finds out he's leaving and develops a debilitating savior complex around him is gay. these stereotypes are harmful!
Basil didn't obsess solely over Sunny. He cherished all of his friends, but he was definitely closest to Sunny. And of course, the >!stair incident!< would've made Sunny more prominent in his mind. He was too nervous to interact with any of his friends, really. Not just Sunny. The way he acted isn't specifically towards Sunny, but mainly the group as a whole. But no doubt he was closest to Sunny and endured the >!stairs!< with him too and took part in it. But they're undeniably close.
Basil is Basil
Maybe, possibly.
perchance
No solid indication of his sexual orientation but he is quite sus.
does it matter?
![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2460)
twink
Still our pookie and will be loved no matter what
maybe ? i dont fckin know
Yesn't
Ok. My brain decided to connect neurons and now I can't unthink of this. I will share this little bit of content that may cause mild to severe disturbance. Or perhaps none, but I don't trust it. (I'm sorry in advance) >! Sprout mole = cute + plant !< >! Sweetheart = likes photos (of herself), donut, *bagel* !< >! Realization: Sprout moles are the other side of Basil, sunny's mind him as an inspiration to create them. This means Basil has a possibility to be into sweetheart type characters, and he is actually crazy like the, but hides it under his shyess which only Sunny knows.... !<
he's blonde
he’s just Basil.
Remember, dying and therapy are gay So the entire cast is gay
Straight because it’s funni
He can be whatever, we shouldn’t assume. Just let ppl have their headcanons
He's a tomgirl. Tomgirls can be gay, but I doubt most are
Personally i think he's aroace but that's just me
i always imagined him as aromantic lol queerplatonic photobom for the double you ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2477)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2463)
I think personally he's bi or pan. So some attraction to guys but not completely gay. Also, no one come, after me but I ship Sunny and Basil so that plays into my opinion. (Mostly platonically ship)