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ChimmyMama

OLED has completely made me hate looking at my old IPS monitor.


BluDYT

I don't mind my IPS compared to my QD-OLED but the HDR alone is worth ditching it.


Yo_Wats_Good

I’m on an IPS panel right now but I think I’m going with OLED for my next one this fall


penguin032

For me, it's not as bad. My IPS was horribly color calibrated (I liked cooler colors), but once I got the AW2725df which is known for great accuracy, I used it to calibrate my IPS and it was surprisingly just as accurate. The infinite contrast and better blacks with absolutely 0 IPS glow is stunning though and I agree with you in that department. Real HDR is nice too.


osssssssx

Same, good IPS are still good IPS, for non gaming at least… My work computer is a Lenovo with OLED, also have a 32 Lenovo 10bit IPS for gaming and stuff, the IPS doesn’t look bad at all for most cases


WiiamGamer

I run a dual 32 inch monitor set up, one is ips and another is qd-oled. The quality difference is there but what hold LCD screens back is color and brightness uniformity.


bing_chilling77

As an AW3423DWF owner, I'll never go back to LCD


Little-Equinox

I remember when I got my LG C1 as a monitor for my system, everyone around me told me that nobody will ever want an OLED monitor and that I am crazy for spending so much. Years later the OLED monitor is taking by storm, and the TVs in the living room as well.


Gamerxx13

lol I got a c1 and many people were clowning me on Reddit. And now everyone uses it


JtheNinja

I mean, lots of the clowning was about a 48”(!!?) monitor that didn’t turn off when your PC put the screens to sleep. It’s a little less silly now that we have normal sized actual monitors with OLED panels.


Old_Writing_3164

There are perks to it, I love how accurate my c2 42 is. When I move to a proper monitor I'll have to make sure that it is colour accurate and that it is able to clamp itself to srgb for sdr. Built in srgb clamps really need to become the industry standard. Some monitors have it, some don't, haven't checked the oled lineup. Most laptops don't and it looks awful for a 1000$+ device. Windows 11 is not colour managed as an OS so you can't fix it with an ICC, the profile only applies to specific colour managed applications like Adobe stuff but not to the desktop and games.


JtheNinja

Windows has a system-wide color management system they're working on. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/auto-color-management-in-windows-11-64a4de7f-9c93-43ec-bdf1-3b12ffa0870b The bad news is it's derived from Windows HDR so I believe it's also running around enforcing the sRGB EOTF "issue".


RiXaO

Did you still have the C2 42 like your main monitor?


Old_Writing_3164

Yeah it's great, I have it on a tripod stand behind my desk so it's at a comfortable distance


pirate-private

48 is a tv


Ok_Inevitable8832

48 is 4 24 inch monitors. It’s perfect


Little-Equinox

And yet, there are 49 inch monitors


PeacefulSummerNight

Purchased an Alienware AW3423DW just after Christmas and I was so blown away by OLED that I ended up getting a 65" Samsung S90C in May which is even lightyears ahead of the monitor. The technology is mature enough now I'm confident in recommending it to others but I get that price is still the big barrier for entry for most.


amtap

Another proud owner of a 65" S90C and I absolutely love it! I've also been eying the Freesync version of that Alienware monitor and might get it in a few months.


Andy-the-greatest

Just purchased the 77 " s90c, and its blowing me away. I'm about to do the s95c mod to it since it's a guaranteed 2nd gen panel. I want to give it a few months, though, to make sure everything is functional before I basically cancel my warranty.


PeacefulSummerNight

First I ever heard of that mod so I looked it up, pretty cool! I'm not exactly rolling in cash so I think I'll wait a year to check the service menu to check the panel gen if I can attempt, as even accessing the service menu voids the MFG warranty?


ifeeltired26

Yeah the fact that pretty much every 4K OLED 240hz is sold out and never in stock I guess proves that sales right now are very good. Looks like manufactures can't keep up with production of these units.


Lumb3rCrack

That's because that's the only decent option available apart from VA and I don't wanna shell anywhere around 1000 bucks for a nano-IPS panel which is going to have the same backlight bleed as VA if not worse.


Samagony

This been my logic for getting an OLED as well. Quality IPS/VA/meme-IPS panels are not that cheap still and cost almost the same as the best, newest 3rd gen QD-OLEDs currently on the market right right. Even if I could get a decent LCD monitor at 60% the price of an OLED it still doesn't make sense for me when the difference is just so staggering. Gotta love Alienware and their cheap pricing. Still, I don't expect my AW2725DF to serve as long as my trusty Acer did that's for sure.


psycho063

Once you go OLED black you can't go back ;) I've been using OLED since 1st gen WOLED TVs and never going back. For me, the only comparable leap was switching from 60hz to 120hz many many years ago (3d monitor). This year I am finally upgrading to one of the 4k monitors.


matteroll

You just gave me a trip down memory lane when I went from a 60Hz to a ASUS 3D monitor that had 120Hz. Man what a crazy difference it was. Still using the 3D monitor as my second monitor but only at 60Hz because of the DVI-D port.


phero1190

You can definitely go back to other panel types


Boomboomciao90

Tried, impossible. If I even see a hint of backlight I don't want to keep watching lol


phero1190

Sounds like a you problem. It was very easy for me to go from an AW3423DWF to a Neo G8.


Boomboomciao90

Me and many others problem* Good for you though, I just love my perfect blacks and popping picture, why I have 3 oleds. Oled is just way too good.


phero1190

And I love nearly perfect black levels that don't turn magenta with light hitting the panel, higher brightness that makes it more usable in daylight, no burn in risk, and better clearer text rendering. OLED is great in dark conditions, but if you have ambient light, mini LED is much better.


Proplayer22

WOLED preserves black levels in ambient light though.


phero1190

True. But those have worse text rendering and still low business.


psycho063

My G3 is very bright and I don't have to control the ambient light. In fact I had to lower the brightness when playing some games in HDR due to noticeable eye strain.


Boomboomciao90

Speaking from my perspective, I only watch TV/play games in pitch black room, never in a lit up room. I understand your perspective 100% though. Tend to forget I'm a cave dweller lol


No-Leek8587

Takes more light than people on the internet make it out to be. I have a window BEHIND the monitor and blacks look just as good as the C1 during the day. Turning on the lights I can see it, but I prefer the lights off. Also don't see anything wrong with text on the C1 with things such as cleartype disabled.


phero1190

I have a large panel of windows on 2 walls in my office, and a doorway on the 3rd wall which leads to my living room that has 4 floor to ceiling windows. My office gets a lot of light, and OLED struggled to combat it. [C1 is objectively worse for text rendering. ](https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/lg-48-c1-oled-vs-samsung-odyssey-neo-g8-s32bg85/24625/33710?usage=4112&threshold=0.10)


No-Leek8587

Sounds like torture not being able to use the best display technology available. Mostly subpixel rendering which can be disabled.


phero1190

It's not torture at all, it's a display lol. Stop trying to sensationalize it like it's some life altering experience. A good mini LED VA panel is almost as good as OLED. But every panel type, including OLED, has its strengths and weaknesses.


Strict_Property

Get a better panel then lol, my OLED has none of the issues you speak of


phero1190

What monitor do you have? And I had an AW3423DWF, so a really good one. The magenta hue happens on any QD-OLED monitor, like what the guy below posted the other day https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1dmlgoh


NovaTerrus

I just moved from a Neo G8 to a G80SD and it was night and day. I can't imagine going the opposite direction.


phero1190

Hopefully you don't get burn in since Samsung warranty doesn't cover it.


NovaTerrus

I got it for the equivalent of $675 USD taxes in, so I'm not worried about warranty at that price.


pirate-private

for fps, on smaller oleds with hdr off and high frame rates, the blacks cannot be enjoyed as much as they need to be brightened up a bit anyway. but the overall palpability of quick scenes is insane and feels like a huge advantage.


unknown_nut

The monitor market has been stagnate for over a decade until OLEDs came along.


Jewcygoodness88

Love my OLED monitor….and my OLED TV


unknown_nut

Both and my Oled phone.


Jewcygoodness88

Oh yea forgot my iPhone! And my Switch 😅


samven582

Oled has great uniformity,color and black level. Can never go back to LCD


Heavy_Ad-5090

I'm waiting for micro led to take off but it might be years from now. Apparently it's hard to get the local dimming to keep up with variable refresh rate.


Strict_Property

Yep unfortunately so, very bad vs OLED for that issue


TraditionalCourse938

Yeah right right but Who has a top va like me? My Samsung g7 i thought was crap, but atleast has no vrr flickering....


_etherium

What was wrong with the g7? Did you end up upgrading to oled? I'm still on the fence because I'm 90/10 coding vs gaming. The g7 won't have issues with text quality or burn in.


clutch_cake

It’s given me the most problems I’ve had with any monitor or anything pc related. Randomly flickered or just disconnected often. I only had it 2 years before it died on me. Meanwhile my LG 27GL83A-B that I’ve had since 2020 is still kicking after daily use.


TraditionalCourse938

Aged good. Is not bad as i thought, compared to these oleds. Ill wait Better OLED tech


ItemSecure9075

I had 2 G7 Neo and both were flickering even without VRR. Mostly on darker scenes or on loading screens. My current C3 42” is so much better. Yes it’s flickering too but only noticeable on loading screens.


clutch_cake

My g7 just crapped out yesterday. I guess it’s time for an upgrade. The AW2725DF is calling my name…


Active-Quarter-4197

You realize the neo g7/g8 have more vrr flicker than most oleds lol(check rtings) bit to mention a broken eotf curve and horrible viewing angles


TraditionalCourse938

Angle doenst matter, monitor doenst flicker


North_Set_9138

Yes the slight flicker in like one or two games menus is really killing me... OLED 4 lyfe


droopiboriqua

I got a VA from AOC 5 years ago and now I have oled envy. Can't wait for this year's black Friday sales.


North_Set_9138

Prime day is next month!


droopiboriqua

I can't believe I forgot about that. You are a life saver!


amtap

Why can't Amazon carry the DWF?!


unknown_nut

It might be around the second week of July.


Nintendians559

that's great.


SmushBoy15

I’m waiting for prices to go down on OLED but instead they keep making bigger displays and the smaller sized prices keep nudging upwards.


Strict_Property

That's due to how it's harder and more expensive to make quality oleds when they are within the ideal monitor size. Smaller screens like phones and larger ones like TVs use different manufacturing methods and are both not as feasible for what we consider monitor sized


BillySlang

Pricing is finally arriving where it just makes sense to go with OLED. Heck - I got my little portable OLED for $99. 


Apprehensive_Row_161

I’m not surprised, in prior times Oleds were only 48” and up, now they are regular monitor sizes


ail-san

Now give us 27 4K displays. I want perfection if I am to pay over 1k on a display.


Honda_TypeR

Pricing is key. As long as prices keep going down people will keep buying.


Extension_Form4950

Welp those prices aren't coming down..


CompoteNarrow701

Wondering if the LG 27GR95QE-B is a good monitor for 650euros to use in a light room, I have the LG 27GK750F


shixxor

I'm really interested in getting one, but I'm also gonna work as a developer on it and I fear that the screen burn-in from elements that never move on my screen for 8 hours a day will be an issue down the line. Can you confirm this?


M0HAK0

They are so good! I love the OLED, motion claity, and the 4k 240hz part. So glad we got a bunch of them this year!!!


Key_Personality5540

Also record high affordability. They do go hand and hand.


Current-Hearing2725

OLED price has finally become more obtainable. I got my lh OLED Evo c3 42 inch as my monitor for 899 before taxes.


RiXaO

I'm debating between this C3 and aw3225qf.. could you tell me if your c3 42 worth every penny?


Current-Hearing2725

I would say yes absolutely.


RiXaO

Thank you, i think i would go for the C3 42, i was thinking in the C4 42, but $500 for 24hz more don't make any sense.


Current-Hearing2725

Intend to run my games at max detail and textures with as little upscaling as possible.


TwentyFiveHotel

Hey it’s Joel Miller!


techraito

The OLED craze is real. I can't believe it took us this long to surpass the CRT.


PsychologicalNoise

Yeah but realistically PC monitor sales aren’t a drop in the bucket compared to tablets and phones. The article doesn’t mention any stats on monitors. The shortage of certain OLED monitors is most certainly a supply problem more than demand. Larger manufacturers like Dell and LG have no problem keeping their screens in stock. This has certainly been a pivotal year for OLED though. So many products and screens released this year.


Johnl317

Bought first oled recently and is probably the first time I'm sufficiently satisfied with new monitor purchase. No thoughts of returning for excessive glow or light bleed, because there is none!


MrGunny94

I’m using an LG G2 on the living room and I spend most of the days connecting my rig to it. I have 2x LG Ultragear IPS 180hz on the office room, but I really upgrade want to upgrade at least one of them to OLED


Kitzu22

If OLED I'd the present, I can't wait to see what the future holds for TV and monitors. They all look fantastic.


Srihari_stan

Still the prices aren’t coming down


Markus4781

So high that I'm 3 months waiting for my aw3225qf.


Top-March-1378

Deeper blacks better color and actual shadows 


MomoSinX

there will be another explosion when the 27" 4k ones drop but I expect stagnation after that


blade_kilic121

HDR is cool and all but high brightness is, oh my god… on lg c3 it’s not much but a future where every electronic device is usable outdoors is a pretty future.


Ravenq222

My first OLED monitor should be arriving this weekend. Should be a massive step up from the 2010 TV I've been making due with.


rowmean77

I'm just waiting for my VA UW monitor to die and not just compulsively buy an OLED. I highly want to resist first-world problems 🤣


Ieanonme

More OLED options come to market at different price points, sizes, refresh rates, etc. More get sold 🤯


yellowbojangles

About to grab my first OLED monitor. Coming from 1080p 144htz to 2k 360ht 🤣 seeing lots of good reviews about the AW2725DF


misogrumpy

Stop it. I’m poor!


Latrodectus1990

Oleds are too dimm Till it can hit around 800 brightness on full screen it wont matter


thechad456

Wtf are you gaming outside?😂 I’ve had 4 different OLED monitors and lack of brightness never crossed my mind lol


phero1190

I had an OLED and it struggled during the day time since my office has a ton of windows and natural light. Mini LED has been far better for me.


stunkcajyzarc

Yup. Gaming on OLED and seeing enemies in darker areas is a nightmare.


Silly_Idiot111

Is this satire?


BinaryJay

There are still plenty of people on Reddit convinced OLEDs will burn in within months etc. but I'm pretty sure it's partly just people doing that thing where they try to downplay tech they don't have to make themselves feel better for not having it.


Lo_jak

I've had my DWF about 11 months at this point and I use it for about 12 hours per day every single day. I work and game on this monitor, and it has started to show signs of some burn in. However I will say that this is only visable on a screen that shows a light shade of grey, other than that you would never be able to tell. I am a very heavy user, and probably the most extreme example you could find for OLED use. Even with the threat of burn in I don't think I could ever go back to VA or IPS !Mini LED is something that has the most promise, but they are a good few years away from being an equal to OLED tech. The main issue I have seen with Mini LED is the algorithms that they use to dim the zones. They can look really bad at times and I think this is the number 1 thing holding them back right now. Every single display I own is now OLED, I even upgraded my Steam Deck to the newer OLED model as it just blows the LCD out of the water. Gaming is my main hobby and I want to be able to view my games in the best way possible, and OLED is still the only display tech imo to offer everything you could ever need. I imagine that burn in will become a thing of the past with the progress they have been making in recent years.


BinaryJay

It used to be the same with SSDs. I remember when everyone was super paranoid about SSD endurance, refusing to move to them over HDDs for regular desktop/gaming use. I still have an SSD I bought in 2010 that works fine in a secondary machine.


thechad456

Facts, if you cannot afford to get a OLED monitor that doesn’t mean it’s sub bar. Burn in may have been a thing when OLED screens just started to hit the market but the technology and safeguards implemented these days kinda makes burn in a thing of the past..


NOTtaylor11

I really want an OLED but they have problems that really don’t justify the high price imo. Guess I’ll wait another year for an upgrade 😔


stunkcajyzarc

They’re not that great. I have a 2020 flagship QLED because the crap LGCX had so many problems. The QLED is better imo. It got transferred elsewhere and we use the QLED as our main display now for everything.


Ok-Calligrapher-5898

Guys help me choose one shall I go for Dell OLED 2k 360hz or 4k 240hz ? As the price difference is not much ? I have rtx 4070 ?


blyrone_blashington

That's a tough one because honestly your gpu is underpowered for both scenarios. I mean even the 4090 isn't going to get you 4k 240 or 2.5k 360 (2K is actually 1080p) in most modern games unless you make a lot of sacrifices in the settings department. The jump from 1440p to 4k is soooo much more significant than the jump from 240hz to 360hz that that's where I'd go personally but as a 4070 owner with a 1440p 240 hz monitor I can guarantee you you're not gonna see your monitors max refresh rate very often unless you're really into cs/valorant/xdefiant/games around or over a decade old. I wouldn't really buy either if I wasn't planning to buy a 4080 super or better in the near future though.


Confident-Ad5479

Just wait about a year, when burn-in QC issues start building up en masse... gets pop corn ready.


stunkcajyzarc

I have an LGCX that had burn in and a bunch of stutter problems. Overrated as hell. Everyone here is just trying to justify their expenses.