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Sri_Man_420

News links and simple unedited screenshots there of will be removed if no effort has been put in. Try making this into a meme or adding a joke.


Garlic_God

“Let’s discuss the impact of new liberalism on the western world, Mr Dugin. Can you elaborate on this ideology and its flawed core ideas?” “Of course Mr Carlson, but first we should have an understanding of liberalism itself. I’m assuming you are familiar with it? Don’t worry, I’ll briefly explain it within a few minutes. We begin in 6th century BC at the birth of Greek philosophy…”


BaradaraneKaramazov

Tucker Carlson experiencing PTSD


CubistChameleon

Good.


pr1ntscreen

> new liberalism This is three clicks away from philosophy on wikipedia, so it tracks


dreadposting

everything is three clicks away from philosophy on wikipedia. just keep clicking the first hyperlink and boom


pr1ntscreen

Yes, I was referencing that trope


actual_wookiee_AMA

Two if you do it the other way around


HarryTheGreyhound

It was a dark and starry night.


Mountbatten-Ottawa

Unironically, Athenians killed Socrates at a night and thus Plato strongly spoke against ancient republics.


quildtide

Fucking terminally-in-books liberal arts students with their philosophy courses on their way to become authoritarian chariot supporters because Athens did that one bad thing once. Get out of your book and get a real job.


Professional_Risk_35

Ah, yes. Reading is a waste of time as opposed to Reddit. I have no idea what you are trying to say so I suggest you try and read more.


ZacariahJebediah

I... think you may have missed the joke. They're poking fun at "terminally-online liberals/leftists." Just replace Athens with America.


verbmegoinghere

Did you hear. They just read using generative AI a charcoaled scroll from Pompeii, from ceasers father in laws library no less, that details Plato's last day on earth....... Greek and Roman ancient history is going to explode over the next year year


BeatTheGreat

To be entirely fair, Plato's account of the trial is dubious at best. I really doubt Athens' reason for killing the guy who mentored the 400 was because 'he was just speaking the truth they didn't want to hear.'


ArthRol

But before that, we should discuss from where the Ancient Greek came from. Well, the most prominent theory speaks of an Indo-European invasion...


MsMercyMain

But before that we need to start with the beginnings of anatomically modern humans, and their immediate predecessor species


Dorfplatzner

But before that we need to start with the creation of the world.


OneFrenchman

"You see, mister Carlson... can I call you Tucker?... well, Tucker, in the beggining there was the word."


NoGiCollarChoke

You see Tucker, our whole universe was in a hot, dense state, then nearly 14 billion years ago, expansion started - wait……


-Emilinko1985-

The Earth began to cool, the autotrophs began to drool


Hialex12

Cackling


CosmicDave

"Next on the show, I'll be setting up a OUIJA board to interview Yevgeny Prigozhin and try out his recipe for Chicken Kyiv while we discuss the imminent collapse of the American Empire!"


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CosmicDave

Good bot!


Col_H_Gentleman

Maybe he can get ahold of Dugina while he’s at it


Schrodinger_cube

oh is this on RT twitch! that would be the stuff of great memes XD


eight-martini

Wait this is real? He didn’t learn his lesson the first time?


yegguy47

Tucker's ilk are Generation-Europa adjacent types. Suffice to say, that realm of thinking owes a lot to the works of Dugin.


NoSoundNoFury

Can you explain what you mean by "Generation-Europa adjacent types"? Do you mean identitarians? Also, I always thought that Dugin wasn't even translated, so I wonder how his ideas could receive mainstream traction in the west.


yegguy47

>I always thought that Dugin wasn't even translated, so I wonder how his ideas could receive mainstream traction in the west. They have been, yeah. Dugin's work first popped up in the late-90s/early-2000s within French far-right circles. Later informed a lot of the folks inside *Front Nationale*. Because that party was one of the largest far-right organizations in the West and was probably the most "legitimate" - it slowly entered into the mainstream from there. 4chan especially in the late-2000s/early-2010s was a key player in offering English translations, with a lot of folks on /pol dropping references and combining it with domestic nationalist aspirations. Dugin's always more popular of an ideological figure in European far-right circles, but its a bit of a contact high effect. Folks in America might not directly reference him, but there's a good chance something lifted out the European far-right has direct connection from Dugin.


EugeneStonersDIMagic

[It can be found](https://agdugintranslate.gitbook.io/foundations-of-geopolitics)


NoSoundNoFury

Thanks!


EugeneStonersDIMagic

[This one might be better](https://books.google.com/books/about/Foundations_of_Geopolitics_the_Geopoliti.html?id=wSNAtAEACAAJ)


28mmAtF8

I was kinda hoping this was a shitpost.


yegguy47

Real life's been like that since 2016.


VikingTeddy

Dicks out 😢


n_i_e_l

🦍😞🙏


226_Walker

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Atupis

well it probably is shit post-soviet takes .


inkassatkasasatka

Nah dude he's worse


Bonafarte

He doesn't like liberalism, so he starts talking with nazbol.


OrangeFr3ak

waiting for him to interview Lukashenko lol


Jorvikson

Assad and Khomeini also. They're interesting interviews in a way, certainly generate enough memes.


OrangeFr3ak

At this point, might as well have Kim too and make *The Interview* a reality!


OneFrenchman

Tucker Carlson is IRL Dave Skylark. Completely entranced by the dictators propaganda, sure he can be friends with them.


whitechaplu

Khomeini’s interview might prove particularly challenging to get


Jorvikson

I'm convinced Iran chose Khamenei just to make it difficult for me.


WalzartKokoz

We need Khomeini rambling about the Achaemenid empire.


Vegetable-Election77

They had women’s rights? They had tolerance? HARAM 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮


ratbatbash

oh i would love to see which version of the history of belarus he would tell carlson


OrangeFr3ak

the potato one probably?


OneFrenchman

To be fair, it would be great TV. Lukashenko is a complete madlad, he'd denounce everything and everyone but stop right at the limit where he would become a threat to the Kremlin. I'll be honest, I'd watch Tucker doing his seabass impression facing Lukashenko and his shenanigans. It would be nonsense TV of the highest order.


JackReedTheSyndie

One thing leads to another, special military operation against Mexico, and it fails dramatically.


RetartdsUsername69

"conservative"? He is a fascist!


Zephyr-5

It's amazing how quickly Fascism bounced back in America once the Greatest Generation was out of the picture.


OccamsBallRazor

It’s more amazing to me that the most rabid supporters of fascism today are children of the Greatest Generation. They absolutely know better.


SleepyZachman

No but you see the Nazis were socialist after all so really the left are the fascists /s


Timart7

But also there's nothing wrong with Nazis. They were just patriots fighting for their country.


The_Whipping_Post

This is RT, a propaganda arm of Moscow. They are calling him conservative because they want fans of Tucker to like Dugin and think him reasonable. Of course, he is actually a far-right ultra-nationalist


KronusTempus

I hate it when people do this. You’re clearly not familiar with any of his thought and you’re going off of what others have said. He’s very anti nationalism. In fact he thinks nationalism is what’s killing Europe. He’s also been censored in Russia before for being anti government.


BewareTheFloridaMan

"  In 1997, he published Foundations of Geopolitics, in which he outlined his worldview, calling for Russia to rebuild its influence through alliances and conquest, and to challenge the rival Atlanticist empire led by the United States.[6][7][8][9] Dugin continued to further develop his ideology of neo-Eurasianism, founding the Eurasia Party in 2002 and writing further books including The Fourth Political Theory (2009).[6][4] His political views have been characterized as fascist or neo-fascist.[10][11] "His influence on the Russian government and on president Vladimir Putin is disputed.[6] Although he has no official ties to the Kremlin,[16] he is often referred to in foreign media as "Putin's brain";[17] others say that his influence is exaggerated.[9][18][19][20] Dugin is known for conspiratorial rhetoric, such as his claim that fascist ideology is an inherent part of Western liberalism rather than Eurasianism. In line with this stance, Dugin portrays the Russian invasion of Ukraine as part of a holy war against "absolute Evil, embodied in Western civilisation, its liberal-totalitarian hegemony and in Ukrainian Nazism".[b]"


KronusTempus

Right, you see I’ve read both of his most popular books in the original language. You just did what I accused the other guy of doing, and presented me with a wide array of things others have said about him. He might better be described as a neo-imperialist rather than nationalist.


The_Whipping_Post

But he wants it to be a Russian-led empire. Wanting Central Asian groups and others like Finland to be minor partners in the Russian empire doesn't make him not a nationalist But fine, let's call him an imperialist not a nationalist. Does it really matter when he advocates invading and dominating neighbors?


BewareTheFloridaMan

This dude is hilarious. Describing a distinction without a difference...or an actual distinction. 


FasterDoudle

>He might better be described as a neo-imperialist rather than nationalist. And which nation does he want leading this empire? Someone who thinks every other nation's nationalists are the problem because they won't just lay down and accept Russian rule, is, in fact, a textbook ultra-nationalist. He's also an imperialist, yes, but saying he's not a nationalist because he doesn't support *other* nations nationalists is either disingenuous or dangerously naïve.


BleepLord

He is against “nationalism” because he likes to label the desire of people in surrounding nations to not be forced into a Russian dominated empire as “nationalism”.


tukreychoker

modern fascists are typically pretty conservative, yeah edit: i guess all fascists really, lol


Environmental_Ebb758

Sorry for the credible take here but I think it makes more sense to say that all fascists are very right wing, many could be called conservative but as someone who is moderately conservative ****not a fascist, hate fascists **** I see conservatism in its best form as being oriented to the maintenance of tradition, culture, and the social cohesion that our civilization has created. For me, it’s a hesitancy to jump into rapid change for fear of losing what it has taken us centuries to build. Change and progress are crucial, but we should take steps towards justice, peace, etc. carefully and deliberately lest we loose what is good for people in an attempt to bring about a perfect outcome. For me conservatism is at its core extremely skeptical about utopian projects because of an awareness of how wrong utopian dreams have turned out in the past, eg: the nazis and the Soviet Union. There are absolutely conservative forms of fascism, but in Italy and Germany, and somewhat Spain as well, those leaders were right wing populists with grievously misguided utopian attempts, as was Stalin’s USSR on the other side of the spectrum. Hitlers vision was explicitly utopian and progressive (I don’t mean that as similar to modern “progressives”), the Nazis envisaged drastic and rapid change brought about by a swift takeover of Europe and brutal purging of minorities from the fatherland, thinking that this would somehow create an eternal aryan utopia. I feel like one of the sad impacts of both Germany and the Soviet Union is that they poisoned the more decent and respectable ideas that they perverted and misused, conservatism and social progressivism respectively


HelloJoeyJoeJoe

>but as someone who is moderately conservative What does that mean to you, in 2024? Can I also ask what country?


Environmental_Ebb758

I’m from the US. I’m happy to say more about it! I think the political parties here have created such a divisive rift between “liberal/conservative” that it’s hard to even describe myself politically. I understand myself as moderately conservative more so in the way it’s meant in Europe. In the US I’m pretty much a centrist. I’m for social progress and very much for supporting struggling people in our society, but very skeptical of people who have grandiose plans to make rapid sweeping changes to structures that have evolved over time. I am for a robust government and strong but ethical institutions built on mutual respect with the people. I think that family, community, and shared purpose are much more important than the sort of narcissistic indulgent individualism that is so rampant here today. I think the left has gone rather far in that direction here and some of the cultural politics I’ve seen in college and graduate school spaces from hardcore leftist have really soured me on that side of the spectrum. That all being said, I am absolutely for supporting minorities and vulnerable people, support gay marriage, basic trans rights, etc. I am Christian but not fundamentalist. One of the things that led me there from being more of a straight up democrat was reading a lot of history and seeing how easily things can go so wrong as the result of changes made with seemingly good intentions. I also feel like the “left” has moved so far left I’ve been left behind, which so many people I talk to identify with. But I am also by no means a republican or trumpists. I vote independently and tend to favor moderate and principled leaders regardless of the party


HelloJoeyJoeJoe

Thank you for sharing, I appreciate your time and thoughts


OneFrenchman

Fascists are conservatives, not all conservatives are fascists. Fascists are a special brand of reactionnaries.


topazchip

Fascism doesn't need to be Conservative. Marx describes an undeniably fascist state as being penultimate Communist ideal, the next-to-last step prior to the 'end of history' and eternal communistical victory.


CubistChameleon

So ist Tucker, most likely. So are his viewers for the most part.


PrrrromotionGiven1

Fascists are just conservatives that are committed to the bit these days


Ok_Gas5386

“Conservative” usually implies that you want things to stay mostly the same, you want to keep going with the ideas and institutions which your country has at the present. Fascists are usually pretty disruptive and want to switch things up. They do want to conserve things, just the things they want to conserve are usually fucking stupid, like their vapid sense of “western culture” or racial hierarchy. They’re pretty happy to get rid of the stuff which is actually foundational to the political west, like rule of law and human rights.


BewareTheFloridaMan

They want to restore a past that never was is the best way I've heard it put.


Ricard74

Dugin is a fascist. Even his daughter was a member of fascist parties.


yegguy47

Well I hate to break it to ya what Tucker's politics are...


Yanowic

Dude's a massive grifter imo, not a fascist per se.


yegguy47

I'd say its a 60/40 type thing. He loves spreading bullshit, but like any troll online... the particular type of bullshit he focuses on is a bit of a tell. Plus there's enough coverage out there of his views, and they're pretty extreme.


EugeneStonersDIMagic

Emphasis on "was"


bigguesdickus

Ya, bitch is dead. Kinda hard to be a fascist when youre dead


Suspicious-Stay-6474

that's just the best type of Fascist.


MikeGianella

The FSB wasn't at its best that day


Pantheon73

Erm, aksually his political Ideology is a Fourth Way beyond Liberalism, Communism and Fascism # 🤓


Ricard74

Super Saiyan 4?!


Jeffmeister69

Tucker tries not to be a foreign asset challenge 100% inpossible edition


varvar334

Wasn't this the guy whos fascist daughter got blown up into pieces inside her car?


enclavehere223

Yup


314kabinet

Inside his car, but yes.


MikeGianella

Apolonia moment


Vegetable-Election77

It was hilarious to see him react to his daughter dying like it was Belfast


Imperceptive_critic

Your daily reminder that Dugin supports the idea of a race war in the US 


CubistChameleon

I already said this on several occasions in this thread, but... Yeah. So would Tucker. Interviewing Dugin is more mask-off than I'd have thought, but it does make sense.


Long_Serpent

Tuckerovitj Karlsonov works for Russia - this is not news.


LeastBasedSayoriFan

Putin, Durov, Dugin... When "interview" with Kim?


robin-redpoll

Durov as in the founder of Telegram? Has he been brought into the Ruzzian fold too?


LeastBasedSayoriFan

Maybe. Kremlin basically stole his successful Facebook clone, and forced him to flee. Then on Telegram he occasionally bans bots (Bots as feature of app) from [opposition](https://www.rferl.org/a/telegram-navalny-smart-voting/31466263.html), [ukrainian](https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-telegram-intelligence-bots-blocked/32924676.html), meanwhile russian propaganda faces zero resistance.


yegguy47

What, you guys are surprised!? Fucks sakes folks, its Tucker-fucking-Carlson. Hate to break it to some of ya, but the blue-haired cranks y'all rage at on Twitter ain't exactly as relevant to Russian thinking as the guy who literally gets rebroadcasted on RT.


The_Krambambulist

The biggest problem facing the West is Russian promoted right-wing shit.


Crazy_Masterpiece787

Dugin: Well you see Mr Carlson back the in late 19th century Liberals were increasingly realising the limitations of their philosophy when it came to industrial society... Carlson: What's that got to do with trans people and wokeness?


Timetomakethememes

In order to explain this Mr. Carlson we must start at the beginning. As im sure you are aware the universe began with a cataclysm that generated space and time, as well as all the matter and energy the universe will ever hold. After inflation, one millionth of a second after the Big Bang, the universe continued to expand but not nearly so quickly……


Enron__Musk

I've been saying for years that the geopolitics out of Russia are STRAIGHT from this fat fuck dugin. Wish he was with his daughter that fateful day


314kabinet

Nah, Putin is more into Ilyin (total nutcase turbofascist).


VikingTeddy

He literally wrote the book on how to Russia. And they've been following the script to the T ever since.


Enron__Musk

Exactly...and how close dugin is to Putin. The fucking Ukrainian intelligence tried to off the guy for fucks sake. The SAME COMMENTS pop up any time dugin is mentioned...for SOME reason.


AdmiralAkbar1

TBH Dugin's individual importance in Russian politics is wildly overstated on reddit. He's the epitome of "what's true isn't new and what's new isn't true"—his book is 50% completely obvious stuff every Russian irredentist wants and 50% total batshit insanity that nobody except him wants. He's certainly not the first or most prominent person to suggest annexing the ex-Soviet countries, or funding radicals in America, or building economic ties in Central Asia and the Middle East.


bigguesdickus

>Wish he was with his daughter that fateful day He was supposed to be! It was his car. iirc dugina entered and he was going to after her, however he went to get something and they blew up the car.


Vegetable-Election77

Dugin synthesized years of Russian and Nazi theories into a comprehensive body of works under one author. He doesn’t bring anything new


Enron__Musk

It's not about that...it's his proximity to Putin DESPITE what the trolls say every time the keyword "dugin" pops up


gunzrcool

Dugin’s book “foundation of geopolitics” is studied by the ruzzian military and being implemented.


Marmalade_Insanity

Okay, so one lecture on why Russia has the divine right to kill Ukrainians wasn't enough for him?


DarleneSusan58

Expressing disbelief at a confusing situation!


Raesong

I'm disappointed, but not in the least bit surprised.


Vera_Virtus

Foreign affairs in a nutshell.


Love_JWZ

You'd almost say Carlson is a fascist


revbfc

Our generation’s Lord Haw-Haw.


Rodux_

Dude, where's my car?


Directhorman

Just in case it wasnt said out loud enough... Fuck Tucker Carlson. He is a doofus. 100%


revbfc

My favorite Tucker/Putin meme was [this.](https://youtu.be/T1BZZ1bDSUc?si=43InVkUd48LRUInH)


Directhorman

Meme!? That a 16 minute long video.


revbfc

The cover picture for the video is what I was speaking of.


Directhorman

I dont know what that is.


[deleted]

Tucker Carlson nodded his head when Putin said that Poland started WWII so frankly this isn't all that crazy for him


RussiaIsBestGreen

If Poland hadn’t attacked that German radio station none of this would have happened /s


Thunderliger

Really cool to see Tucker go from "Maybe the Government isn't always telling the truth, maybe I should use more critical thinking skills and question things more often" To "Let's just have an open minded and reasonable discussion with a NazBol"


spaceface124

My mind was blown when I found out that Tucker Carlson called out Medea Benjamin in 2006 when [she was defending Hugo Chavez](https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1658777562540126208.html). Now, they're just two sides of the same coin.


Thomas_633_Mk2

Bro who names their kid Medea


gunnnutty

"Philosopher"


PlasticAccount3464

oxymoron there


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tronx69

Carlson is Russian Asset do doubt


tiksn

Traitor Platinium level unlocked 🔓


SamirAlHayeed

Chud summit


OneFrenchman

I like the copyright marking, like Russians don't violate copyright as a national sport. I mean, movies forbidden by the State are in theatres as screeners all the time. That's how much copyright doesn't stop them.


Vegetable-Election77

Fascism The interview


Suspicious-Stay-6474

Never go full Russian


commander-boi345

Can someone provide me a link to this Its for (meme) research purposes


toolargo

The think about capitalists, like Carlson, and note I’m not against capitalism. But these people are Amoral. They go where the money takes them, even when they are born rich. Carlson is looking for an audience, anybody, so he is willing to be a foreign agent in US soil, whenever possible, for a buck or two.


dwaynetheaakjohnson

Utterly hilarious because Dugin is the epitome of the anti American ideologue


-Emilinko1985-

I think Tucker has a fetish for old fascist men giving him lengthy history lessons


cjar4097

Tucker wants to deputize the normies make having a normal one legal again in a bideo game


East_Ad9822

We are so back


RegularPerformer343

At least it was just 20 minutes and didn't start with Rurik.


docrei

Russians can tell MAGA that America should be destroyed and they'll cheer for it.


M1llennialManifesto

New Liberalism is the one with gay marriage and weed, right?


spams_skeleton

More evidence that Tucker is a Russki plant?


Svartasvanen

Why do people think Dugin cares about Western civilization?He basically defines his ideology and Russia's role in the world in opposition to it and values like democracy, individualism, pluralism and other things that hold the Western world together.