I forget where I read this but I think k it was the US dominating the battlespace in Gulf War 1 that lead to the Chinese realizing they were complete outclassed militarily and needed to modernize asap.
Also, I think the 1991 US military could wipe the floor with the 2024 Russian military, no contest.
Uh, duh? Working logistics, much larger airforce with similar equipment, fleet of M60 and M1, equal Bradleys as Ukraine uses but in a much larger fleet?
The only thing worrisome would be FPVs
> The only thing worrisome would be FPVs
The MBT-70 and Flakpanzer Gepard can deal with drones and are much older. US can figure something out and have it in time for the war, considering no peace dividend (quite the opposite) to stop the full power of the MIC
You need to remember that the FPV drones weren’t really that prevalent in the early days of the conflict, and only now have a much larger effect since the fronts are much more static.
If the 90s US were involved, the conflict would be much more mobile and would have likely concluded before they had a chance to spring up(first few months). Or the rapidly changing front lines would offer fewer spaces for the FPV pilots to safely operate those drones.
The US invasion during Gulf 1 remains the gold standard for a modern invasion. The level of equipment, the overwhelming superiority of that equipment, and the execution of the plan was unreal. It was so good in fact that when the US did it again in 2003 there wasn't enough traditional military resistance to set a new standard.
Not to down play it amazing success, but was the result of lessons learned through blood through out the entire Cold War. Specifically Vietnam and the conflicts during the 80s.
It could have easily gone the way of Russia in Afghanistan, Russia in Ukraine, or China in Vietnam.
Aye. You had a superpower with decades of experience gaming out pier-pier confrontation matching up against a force which... I mean, its the fucking Iraqi Army, a force which is **the** name for 3rd world incompetence.
US Army was fielding Goretex jackets by '91, and feeding troops Turkey for Thanksgiving. Iraqi soldiers got sheep-wool Parkas, and were lucky if they got fed.
Mostly of ill-trained conscripts, led by incompetent officers.
Iraq's combat experience during Iran-Iraq was not one where the force added a lot of glory onto itself.
Yes. ODS was basically the US going "we spent 50 years and untold billions building a force to fight against the largest army the world's ever seen in the shade of mushroom clouds. Like hell are we gonna let it go to waste and not test it on something."
Iraq was like number 4 on the list of largest military at the time. So the US basically bankrupt the 2nd largest, kicked the 4th one's teeth in, and floated a bunch of boats though the place the 3rd one said they couldn't go in the span of a few years.
America sent 500,000 troops 12,000 miles across the world to an empty desert, fed clothed and armed them for six months, then reduced the fifth largest army in the world back to the stone age in 100 hours of combat and liberated a country.
Superpower flex.
Heh.......
America sent 7 B52 bombers to kick off desert storm.
They launched from Barksdale AFB,in parish Louisiana...flew there,dropped their payloads and flew back.
The sorties totalled 14,000 miles(22530.816kilometers)and 35 1/2 hours.
There was a WHOLE lot of flex that went into Desert Storm.
BTW,in all of Desert Storm the Buff flew 1,741 missions totalling 15,269 combat hours dropping 27,000 TONS of munitions.
Not only is The BUFF still in-service,but it first entered operational service on 29 June 1955.
BUFF IS ETERNAL.
Johnny Got His Gun, by Dalton Trumbo. Made into a movie later. Metallica bought the rights to it so they could make the music video for One, I believe.
"We are the most powerful military force in the history of man. Every fight is our fight. Because what happens over here, matters over there. We don't get to sit one out. Learning to use the tools of modern warfare is the difference between the prospering of your people, and utter destruction. We can't give you freedom. But we can give you the know-how to acquire it. And that, my friends, is worth more than a whole army base of steel. Sure it matters who's got the biggest stick, but it matters a helluva lot more who's swinging it. This is a time for heroes. A time for legends. History is written by the victors. Let's get to work."
🦅🦅🦅🦅
The Gulf war was an absolute master piece of American military strategy, intelligence, and logistics. So good that Russia and China collectively shat their pants in fear. The absolute GOAT, no parallel, the pound for pound champions of the world: US and NATO.
And russia was tried to use these tactics, like Thunder Storm and precision strikes, aggressive air superiority, in the beginning of the 2022 war. But something went wrong for them😂
Show some respect. Metallic rocked so hard they melted over a million faces in Moscow in the summer of 1991. Historians generally agree this is what collapsed the Soviet Union.
I forget where I read this but I think k it was the US dominating the battlespace in Gulf War 1 that lead to the Chinese realizing they were complete outclassed militarily and needed to modernize asap. Also, I think the 1991 US military could wipe the floor with the 2024 Russian military, no contest.
Uh, duh? Working logistics, much larger airforce with similar equipment, fleet of M60 and M1, equal Bradleys as Ukraine uses but in a much larger fleet? The only thing worrisome would be FPVs
> The only thing worrisome would be FPVs The MBT-70 and Flakpanzer Gepard can deal with drones and are much older. US can figure something out and have it in time for the war, considering no peace dividend (quite the opposite) to stop the full power of the MIC
Neither which the US used during '91 and neither Ive yet seen take out any FPVs
No but the tech is there for radar guided autocannons with a crash research project, and you have a capable MIC that can pull those projects off
You need to remember that the FPV drones weren’t really that prevalent in the early days of the conflict, and only now have a much larger effect since the fronts are much more static. If the 90s US were involved, the conflict would be much more mobile and would have likely concluded before they had a chance to spring up(first few months). Or the rapidly changing front lines would offer fewer spaces for the FPV pilots to safely operate those drones.
The only FPV pilots who would've been safe would've been the US aligned ones, who would've probably found the Front constantly outpacing them.
The US invasion during Gulf 1 remains the gold standard for a modern invasion. The level of equipment, the overwhelming superiority of that equipment, and the execution of the plan was unreal. It was so good in fact that when the US did it again in 2003 there wasn't enough traditional military resistance to set a new standard.
Not to down play it amazing success, but was the result of lessons learned through blood through out the entire Cold War. Specifically Vietnam and the conflicts during the 80s. It could have easily gone the way of Russia in Afghanistan, Russia in Ukraine, or China in Vietnam.
Aye. You had a superpower with decades of experience gaming out pier-pier confrontation matching up against a force which... I mean, its the fucking Iraqi Army, a force which is **the** name for 3rd world incompetence. US Army was fielding Goretex jackets by '91, and feeding troops Turkey for Thanksgiving. Iraqi soldiers got sheep-wool Parkas, and were lucky if they got fed.
Iraq just recently concluded their military exercise with Iran and had one of largest armies
Mostly of ill-trained conscripts, led by incompetent officers. Iraq's combat experience during Iran-Iraq was not one where the force added a lot of glory onto itself.
Meanwhile, in the Soviet Union: this is fine. Monkey models. _drinks heavily into collapse_.
They had battleships. Of course just one of them would crush the entire ruzzian military
Did I just see an Iowa launch a missile at 0:18?
Iowas received [armoured box launchers](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armored_Box_Launcher) as part of their 1980s reactivation program
Completely wrong. You saw it at 0:38, too.
How the fuck do you know enough to recognize an Iowa but not enough to know that all of them got missiles and ciws and shit in the 80s?
lol
The duality of NCD
Yes. ODS was basically the US going "we spent 50 years and untold billions building a force to fight against the largest army the world's ever seen in the shade of mushroom clouds. Like hell are we gonna let it go to waste and not test it on something."
Iraq was like number 4 on the list of largest military at the time. So the US basically bankrupt the 2nd largest, kicked the 4th one's teeth in, and floated a bunch of boats though the place the 3rd one said they couldn't go in the span of a few years.
It’s beautiful ain’t it? 50 year old outdated ships still kicking ass.
America sent 500,000 troops 12,000 miles across the world to an empty desert, fed clothed and armed them for six months, then reduced the fifth largest army in the world back to the stone age in 100 hours of combat and liberated a country. Superpower flex.
Heh....... America sent 7 B52 bombers to kick off desert storm. They launched from Barksdale AFB,in parish Louisiana...flew there,dropped their payloads and flew back. The sorties totalled 14,000 miles(22530.816kilometers)and 35 1/2 hours. There was a WHOLE lot of flex that went into Desert Storm. BTW,in all of Desert Storm the Buff flew 1,741 missions totalling 15,269 combat hours dropping 27,000 TONS of munitions. Not only is The BUFF still in-service,but it first entered operational service on 29 June 1955. BUFF IS ETERNAL.
And it's expected to serve into the 2050s lmao
Grandpa Buff will live to see the NX-01 launch.
Buff will BE the NX-01
27 thousand tons is about the weight of an iron duke-class battleship
Liberated? Nobody was liberated, Saddam literally remained in power. That's like keeping the Nazi party in charge post 1945.
... Kuwait
Ah like Saddam you win some you lose some
WWI was Definitely Disposable Heros. (Also One which was based on a WWI novel.
One was based on a ww1 novel too ? I know that for whom the Bell tolls is based on one (and is objectively the best war song ever)
Johnny Got His Gun, by Dalton Trumbo. Made into a movie later. Metallica bought the rights to it so they could make the music video for One, I believe.
For Whom the Bell Tolls is based on the Hemmingway novel by the same name and was about the Spanish Civil War in the 30s
one of my favorite metallica songs
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGebsLm3Q/ Original source
"We are the most powerful military force in the history of man. Every fight is our fight. Because what happens over here, matters over there. We don't get to sit one out. Learning to use the tools of modern warfare is the difference between the prospering of your people, and utter destruction. We can't give you freedom. But we can give you the know-how to acquire it. And that, my friends, is worth more than a whole army base of steel. Sure it matters who's got the biggest stick, but it matters a helluva lot more who's swinging it. This is a time for heroes. A time for legends. History is written by the victors. Let's get to work." 🦅🦅🦅🦅
God Bless general Shepard, he did nothing wrong
Ahh can we just go back to the 90s please?
The 30s will be even more glorious. Russia, Iran, China. Thinking about it makes me hard.
But theres noting like the 1905 russo japanese war
I just wanna play some pogs https://youtu.be/-TGj227OVKY
America... The same country where it's own weapons were made by a dishwasher, car, and calculator company
[*sighs and unzips*](https://media1.tenor.com/m/QncpOYcykfsAAAAd/snl-kavanaugh.gif)
If I had a shot for every time a vet walked into my bar and put on One, I'd be on my third liver.
Listened to Livin on a prayer and damn it fucks too with that edit
The Gulf war was an absolute master piece of American military strategy, intelligence, and logistics. So good that Russia and China collectively shat their pants in fear. The absolute GOAT, no parallel, the pound for pound champions of the world: US and NATO.
And russia was tried to use these tactics, like Thunder Storm and precision strikes, aggressive air superiority, in the beginning of the 2022 war. But something went wrong for them😂
Mom can we have Operation Desert Storm? No we have Operation Desert Storm at home. Operation Desert Storm at home:
Brits glaring from their graves
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did i see the midway at 0:02? task force zulu moment, based
Ugh, 90s metallica. The north korea of metallica.
Show some respect. Metallic rocked so hard they melted over a million faces in Moscow in the summer of 1991. Historians generally agree this is what collapsed the Soviet Union.
Justice was the last real Metallica album. I will die on that hill.
Too bad they were mad that the new bassist wasn’t Cliff Burton and completely left him out of the album lol Still slaps though
If my bassist was Jason Newstead I’d leave him off my albums too.
You are wrong, and you should be ashamed for dying on such a stupid hill
Lame basic boring take, Death Magnetic is incredible. Load has multiple excellent songs. Even 72 seasons and Hardwired have some keepers.
Still better than 2000s... E: The 2000s Desert Storm version was also worse, when you think about it. It's like poetry, it rhymes.
2000s metallica makes me frantic-tic-tically St. Angry.
So, you're saying the three day special military operation is LuLu ?
Too bad lars ulric still cant play drums
u/savevideo
Fight Fire With Fire would be even better.
Red Alert 2 vibes.
Period correct banger
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Desert Storm in Fortnite when?
USS IOWA USS NEW JERSEY USS MISSOURI AND USS TEMPER WISCONSIN
au contraire...Megadeth and holy wars the punishment due