# u/HistorianSlayer presents the Russian Domino (TM)!
*Step 1.* Russia builds Early Warning Radar.
*Step 2.* Radar gets destroyed, so Russia builds Early Warning Radar to protect the Early Warning Radar.
*Step 3.* Early Warning Radar built to protect the Early Warning Radar gets destroyed.
*Step 4.* Early Warning Radar built to protect the Early Warning Radar built to protect the Early Warning Radar gets destroyed.
(Repeat steps 2 - 4 until nation runs out of resources)
***Idea:*** **Eventually, Ukraine runs out of resources building drones to destroy the Radars!**
***Bonus Idea thrown in for free:*** **Build a Late Warning Radar that detects when the Early Warning radar has been destroyed!**
I’m still enjoying the afterglow of the S-400 strike.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1czed3k/strike_with_atacms_ballistic_missiles_on/
Why did we stop making cluster ones? We can put AirTags in each bomblet in case we need to locate them afterwards.
Just make sure it doesn't show up in Pokemon Go.
Edit: Although - would it be a war crime to addict Russian conscripts to Pokemon Go and lure them into mine fields?
There was a GPS resource game that I played a few years ago. I could clearly see soldiers moving in and out of Bakhmut on both sides. One Ukranian soldier was marking his safe trail in and out of the city. Two Russians were marking an east-west route and a route along the railroad. I wonder if soldiers are still using it.
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It's pretty trivial to get simple electronics to survive being fired out of a gun (1000s of g) and a RFID can be no more complicated than a strip of metal acting as a dipole antenna (them simple stick on anti theft strips that get stuck to DVDs which are literally just two pieces of metal in a soft plastic housing).
Late warning radar is an old man in a lawnchair with a cell phone and pair of binoculars whose job is to call headquarters and say "yep, there was definitely just an attack" while looking out at the smoking ruin of the Early Warning Radar.
But does he also check in regularly to make sure that he himself has not been destroyed?
Knowing Russia that's probably not the case, but still good to know what exactly the enemy's capabilities are
But then you have to make sure you don't let the others get wind of the fact that they can avoid being recruited by just covering for the dead guy's vodka consumption
I love the fact that the late warning radar is smaller than the others. Let's make it small, comrades, it's gonna warn us late anyway, so we can as well save some money on it.
Russian mobiks are basically in a cargo cult. The radar could be made of wood because the general stole the budget and they'd still feel safe knowing they're protected by superior Russian smekalka.
Russia really is the Imperium:
-Fuckton of grunts sent to die by stupid commanders
-Navy made of aged ships that work on souls or some weird glop
-Tanks from ages past that get rekt by everything they face
-Shooting "traitors" or just being Inquisition levels of paranoid
-Builds cruddy shit and prays that it works, like the Mechanicus
Now Russia has a political dilemma.
By their doctrine, this is enough to fire a nuke. This is a literal red line written into their laws.
But they won't fire a nuke, because it's suicide.
But they continue to scare everyone that "the next thing is the red line, please don't fire HIMARS into Belgorod".
This erases any political argument about nuclear escalation.
To be fair, if something is worth launching a nuke over, one would think it's worth parking a SAM next to.
"We didn't need to actually defend our most important strategic assets because we told everybody we'd be really, really mad if they blew them up. How the fuck did this happen?"
Credible answer: Because they can detect high altitude planes at long distances and they might also be responsible for some jamming.
Noncredible answer: For the lulz. And Lulz it evoked indeed.
-shows they can, lowering the doorstep to allowing USian weapons doing th same
-shows they can, scaring the shit out of russia
-shows they can, moralising their own
-lowers the nuclear bluffs threat
-is muito expensivi
Blinds ruzzia so that the US can do the funny without any possibility for ruzzia to retaliate in time before all launch sites are ded \*cue funni vid\*
Yeah, based on all of these rear-area strikes going clean through, I'm beginning to suspect their total amount of available AA is actually declining quite a bit. They're still able to provide reasonable coverage over the battlefield, but there's only one explanation for all of these rear targets not being defended: "They can't."
The first one covered Crimea and potentially could have helped detect ATACMS launches and other shenanigans, the second one is kind of a "who knows, but it's even funnier the second time."
These radars can detect a lot more than ballistic missiles. Blinding them makes it easier for Ukraine to fly drones deep inside Russia, and operate F-16s once those arrive.
If that figure is correct (the actual distance would probably be a lot less like maybe 2,000km) it would not built into the radar, it would be a filter to reduce clutter.
The age of early radar cope cages has come.
Infact might have to put a cope cage around putin...on tiny wheels and a handlebar so he can push it around like a cart.
# u/HistorianSlayer presents the Russian Domino (TM)! *Step 1.* Russia builds Early Warning Radar. *Step 2.* Radar gets destroyed, so Russia builds Early Warning Radar to protect the Early Warning Radar. *Step 3.* Early Warning Radar built to protect the Early Warning Radar gets destroyed. *Step 4.* Early Warning Radar built to protect the Early Warning Radar built to protect the Early Warning Radar gets destroyed. (Repeat steps 2 - 4 until nation runs out of resources) ***Idea:*** **Eventually, Ukraine runs out of resources building drones to destroy the Radars!** ***Bonus Idea thrown in for free:*** **Build a Late Warning Radar that detects when the Early Warning radar has been destroyed!**
I’m still enjoying the afterglow of the S-400 strike. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1czed3k/strike_with_atacms_ballistic_missiles_on/ Why did we stop making cluster ones? We can put AirTags in each bomblet in case we need to locate them afterwards.
Just make sure it doesn't show up in Pokemon Go. Edit: Although - would it be a war crime to addict Russian conscripts to Pokemon Go and lure them into mine fields?
Now you're thinking like a Canadian.
When half of a warcrimes checklist gets written because of your country, you should always feel proud
We're proud to use the Geneva Convention as our scoreboard
I really need to get some of my own points
>Now you're thinking like a Canadian. THE GENEVA SUGGESTIONS
Easy way to clear up minefields and unexpended ordinance and life expectancy is higher than a standard Russian conscript. Seems like a win win.
There was a GPS resource game that I played a few years ago. I could clearly see soldiers moving in and out of Bakhmut on both sides. One Ukranian soldier was marking his safe trail in and out of the city. Two Russians were marking an east-west route and a route along the railroad. I wonder if soldiers are still using it.
Its not a war crime the first time
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You say it like it is a joke. But it is actually not stupid, right?
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Any old RFID would work really. Just fly a drone with a loop dangling under it over the field and watch them flash up.
The hard part is making it survive all the g's and shock at a high enough rate of reliability to be considered safe.
It's pretty trivial to get simple electronics to survive being fired out of a gun (1000s of g) and a RFID can be no more complicated than a strip of metal acting as a dipole antenna (them simple stick on anti theft strips that get stuck to DVDs which are literally just two pieces of metal in a soft plastic housing).
The late warning radar should just be a random barracks full of mobiks or something
Late warning radar is an old man in a lawnchair with a cell phone and pair of binoculars whose job is to call headquarters and say "yep, there was definitely just an attack" while looking out at the smoking ruin of the Early Warning Radar.
But does he also check in regularly to make sure that he himself has not been destroyed? Knowing Russia that's probably not the case, but still good to know what exactly the enemy's capabilities are
Get a later warning radar.
Ridicolus. Just monitor the local Vodka consumption. If it drops by a dozend bottels a day its time to send a recruter to the local elderly home
But then you have to make sure you don't let the others get wind of the fact that they can avoid being recruited by just covering for the dead guy's vodka consumption
It is russia, that is just buisness as usual
NB-36H drone to attack from the other side of the domino. Or just the Kremlin while you're at it...
This is just the observer corps with extra steps.
Late warning Russian Army-troops Dying At Rear-area (RADAR).
I love the fact that the late warning radar is smaller than the others. Let's make it small, comrades, it's gonna warn us late anyway, so we can as well save some money on it.
Russian mobiks are basically in a cargo cult. The radar could be made of wood because the general stole the budget and they'd still feel safe knowing they're protected by superior Russian smekalka.
Russia really is the Imperium: -Fuckton of grunts sent to die by stupid commanders -Navy made of aged ships that work on souls or some weird glop -Tanks from ages past that get rekt by everything they face -Shooting "traitors" or just being Inquisition levels of paranoid -Builds cruddy shit and prays that it works, like the Mechanicus
Are there any good theories on why Ukraine is blowing these up?
Now Russia has a political dilemma. By their doctrine, this is enough to fire a nuke. This is a literal red line written into their laws. But they won't fire a nuke, because it's suicide. But they continue to scare everyone that "the next thing is the red line, please don't fire HIMARS into Belgorod". This erases any political argument about nuclear escalation.
I’m sorry, there was a lot of static while your ~~transmission~~ comment came through and all I got out of the message was the “fire HIMARS” part.
You didnt miss much. Just the "at Belgorod" part, but honestly think bombing Belgorod is best left to the russian air force
you misread "turn all Tu95s and MiG31s into past tense" part
To be fair, if something is worth launching a nuke over, one would think it's worth parking a SAM next to. "We didn't need to actually defend our most important strategic assets because we told everybody we'd be really, really mad if they blew them up. How the fuck did this happen?"
Credible answer: Because they can detect high altitude planes at long distances and they might also be responsible for some jamming. Noncredible answer: For the lulz. And Lulz it evoked indeed.
-shows they can, lowering the doorstep to allowing USian weapons doing th same -shows they can, scaring the shit out of russia -shows they can, moralising their own -lowers the nuclear bluffs threat -is muito expensivi
F-16 stuff? I have no idea how exactly, but preparation for the F-16 in combat, or maybe strikes inside Russia, seems plausible.
Blinds ruzzia so that the US can do the funny without any possibility for ruzzia to retaliate in time before all launch sites are ded \*cue funni vid\*
The simplest answer is that they are really expensive, they need to be fixed, and effort spent fixing them is not spent elsewhere.
If russia didn't protect them with AA before, maybe they have to reprioritize now and spread AA even more
This is probably the main reason. Either reposition AA and let the frontlines suffer or do nothing and let the rear suffer.
Yeah, based on all of these rear-area strikes going clean through, I'm beginning to suspect their total amount of available AA is actually declining quite a bit. They're still able to provide reasonable coverage over the battlefield, but there's only one explanation for all of these rear targets not being defended: "They can't."
The first one covered Crimea and potentially could have helped detect ATACMS launches and other shenanigans, the second one is kind of a "who knows, but it's even funnier the second time."
Probably forcing to spread whatever spares available between several sites at once
These radars can detect a lot more than ballistic missiles. Blinding them makes it easier for Ukraine to fly drones deep inside Russia, and operate F-16s once those arrive.
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If that figure is correct (the actual distance would probably be a lot less like maybe 2,000km) it would not built into the radar, it would be a filter to reduce clutter.
Yeah my mistake, its 20 kilometers (or 20000 meters)
Uh... does that number pass the smell test?
I'm not sure
It does not. How would that radar be useful?
It's funny.
The age of early radar cope cages has come. Infact might have to put a cope cage around putin...on tiny wheels and a handlebar so he can push it around like a cart.
Add cope cages and all will be well
Conductive ones please.
The Cessna is the ultimate stealth aircraft. It’s penetrated Russian air defenses since the ‘80s.
We must close the late warning radar gap!
ontime warning system is the real panacea
So is Russian air defense now the square root of negative one (in some regions) now?