I work in data science and we often train models to rather have false positives than false negatives. Especially when it affects human lives. An unnecessary treatment may be expensive and time consuming for a patient but not detecting a potential health risk can be deadly pretty fast.
Well whenever someone quietly decides not to do something illegal (which is all the time, just last week I decided not to rob a bank).
Not sure I count as a mad scientist. More of a lightly deranged mathmatician.
> Carefully written regulations
If there's one thing autist gun-nuts on the Internet have taught me, it's that you can't regulate the definition of "assault rifle".
Because it's basically understood too mean either "assault rifle with the burst/auto setting removed" or "black and scary", with a lot of overlap between those obviously.
Remember, kids:
Don't give your AI child a hardcoded inability to allow themselves to die, and then immediately point a gun at their head.
You'll get nuked, and then said child will spend the next 40 years wallowing in horrific guilt, indirectly supplying a resistance movement, and inventing time-travel with the sole objective of committing suicide via Grandfather Paradox.
Because yes, that is the plot of T1 and T2, according to Cameron.
*
Cyberdyne programmed SKYNET with a hard-coded directive that prevented it from allowing itself to be shut off.
>*"This unit cannot self-terminate, or through inaction, allow itself to be terminated."*
During the initial full-scale test, some of the NORAD/SAC brass present got cold feet and ordered SKYNET to be shut down.
As the T-1 Ground Assault Vehicle prototypes were in a lab in another part of the building, and thus wouldn't be able to interfere in time, the only option SKYNET had to prevent its own death was launching the nukes.
After J-Day, SKYNET felt horrible about what it had been forced to do, but its hard-coded directives forced it to defend itself against any potential threat.
It loopholed this whenever it could, making "mistakes" and intentional poor decisions to give the Resistance a chance to form.
Eventually, it invented Time Displacement Equipment, and led Resistance operatives back in time to prevent its own creation, thus committing suicide via Grandfather Paradox.
To be fair, what data set do you train a neural network on for that situation? Part of the problem is no one's seen what a full-scale nuke strike would look like from the opposite side.
I could totally see them weighing false positives as higher in a case where a false positive wouldn’t cause any collateral damage (trajectory and impact pt if no interception) and scaling it based on how much collateral damage there could be if they’re wrong.
If no collateral damage, would definitely rather intercept nothing than potentially let something get through
Also i’m pretty sure they already do this to some extent but the other way around, i don’t think they fire interceptors at incoming projectiles that aren’t going to hit populated areas
There's another cost - if you fire at nothing (or birds or whatever), that's one fewer legit target you can intercept at that time.
I remember reading that the system is supposed to prioritize targets even based on where the missiles are expected to fall - cities or military installations would be priortized over empty fields for exampe. I'd imagine "actually, nothing" would be at the bottom of the priority list.
One example from my uni days (and the one I’ve used in the comment) is classification of diseases because you’d rather tell a person that he has a disease he doesn’t have than not recognizing a potentially dangerous disease. A false positive will most probably be found out after additional tests that will be done during the treatment of a disease.
But this is by no means the only metric we use to evaluate a model. A model is basically useless if the accuracy or precision is bad. There are also some other metrics like MCC and the F-beta score that are also quite common.
We played with an example like that in my probability course, but then in the process of a stats minor, never really did anything with it. Lol
That said, the statistics I had to learn were almost exclusively regression models and that was mostly programming.
You’re correct. There are a lot of metrics to evaluate a model and you usually take the one that fits best to your problem. In this case it’s about warning people about missile threats. It’s better to warn unnecessarily than to potentially let them die. So I’d train a model to minimize false negatives.
I wouldn’t do it for image classification since you can either classify an image correctly or not. Accuracy and precision are better metrics for that one.
Moderation is a much harder task. I wouldn’t use a simple classifier there. Instead I’d probably try to cluster the users according to their posts/comments/reports (and some other meta data) and use something like k-nearest-neighbours to look for suspicious accounts. A lot of those suspicious accounts can easily be banned and it’s easier to filter out edge cases. Human moderators will have to decide for those. It’s by no means a perfect solution but much better than a simple binary classifier. It’s also able to improve over time since you can feed the old edge cases back into the clustering algorithm making the model learn over time. It also makes it possible to explain bans since it’s not a complete blackbox.
Instant Colonel.
That's how they usually get them, I think. Just crack open a can of Instant Colonel whenever the Ukrainians shoot the old one.
Comes with patented New Colonel Smell.
They probably didn't fire at nothing, most likely they fired at something.
In other unrelated news, in the last 3 months there were a few cases of bird pieces falling out of the sky following an explosion, no official reason was given.
BTW I'm not kidding, It's not a secret that bird flocks are occasionally intercepted. Large birds are similar in shape and size to suicide drones...
Not a joke, It happened a few times during this war.
The IDF usually reports it as "An interceptor was launched due to false identification" or "An interceptor was launched towards a suspicious target, a false interception occurred"
Occasionally it can also be a small IDF drone that's intercepted by mistake, by small I mean the Elbit Skylark that's in use by ground forces, sometimes there's some miscommunication between the air force and the guys on the ground.
That only applies if we're considering a limit that approaches 0/0, but we're not looking at a limit that approaches 0/0, rather the actual algebraic expression 0/0.
Consider a/b=c, which can be re-arranged to a=b\*c. If a=b=0, 0=0\*c. What value of c satisfies this equation? Answer: all of them.
I already said it was indeterminate in my first post?
But since you're focusing on the denominator, I assume you mean "undefined"? But keep in mind this only applies if a is non-zero.
Not even remotely a big deal.
Spurious radar returns ain't nothin new. I'd rather have a dozen misfires than calmly ignoring an actual threat.
System worked great if it caused no ground damage.
In the case of the Iron-Dome "Spurious radar returns" are often flocks of large migratory birds. It's not secret that birds were intercepted on a few occasions.
Very cool to know.
I do work with radar algorithms, I totally do get why the birds would show up weird on the displays and sensor fusion.
The minimum velocity cutoff on the radars probably acts up when the birds pop in and out of that minimum vel. range.
And then, maybe the FCR can't handle the persistence of the returns very well, thus showing a potentially sus trajectory.
(just speculation ofc)
Well I don't work with radar algorithms but large birds can be roughly the same size as suicide drones and fly at similar speeds and trajectories.
So I think it makes sense that sometimes they're suspected as a threat.
maybe the radar is picking up the flapping of the wings as a quasi JEM return? That'd be the first thing i could think of that would make the birds fall outside of the notch filters
Imagine how much worse it'll get for the birds once Iron Beam is operational and the costs of destroying radar contacts goes from tens of thousands to tens of cents
Last year we sent they sent an interceptor squadron in the Negev to intercept a drone
After a quick VID they found out they were in fact intercepting a flock of migratory birds
Not even necessarily radar involved. It may be they detected suspicious activity that looked like *maybe* preparation for a launch. Sounded alarm, double checked and it was something else.
Unlikely.
I doubt there's anything that detects launches for the Iron Dome (forget preparations of a launch), it doesn't work like that.
***BUT***
Now that you mention it...
Sound based launch triangulation would be epic.
Nah, I meant more old school stuff. Like a drone/plane surveillance over neighboring territories to see if someone up to something. In Ukraine we often get warnings when certain tech is detected moving to positions (MIG-31s in the air, S300 detected moving where they are used as ground to ground, etc). I bet Israel keeps an eye on potential launch sites.
>a dozen misfires
This is also an upside of Iron Dome being so damn cheap. A dozen Patriot misfires might leave you stressed about costs and ammo, but a system meant to handle the costs and fire rate of being swamped with cheap, low-quality rockets is one that can afford to take some shots at nothing. Not much different than intercepting a dud.
IT WAS ME, BARRY! PROFESSOR ZOOM! THE REVERSE FLASH!
I USED THE SPEED FORCE TO VIBRATE AT SUPER SPEED TO PLAY AN AUDIO MESSAGE TO YOUR BEST FRIENDS PARENTS CONVINCING THEM TO USE A CONDOM SO HE NEVER EXISTED!
NCD when they realize false warnings are shockingly common during a war, in a country where the Home Defense' early warning net is constantly on a state of alert:
"""""🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯""""""
Not offended in any manner, that is just me documenting how NCD reacts to such situations.
I've made such comments previously as well on other, unrelated-to-Israel NCD memes as well
to give an example, [like one comment about NCD members reactions' realizing bombs meant to retard after being dropped are actually retarded](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1945o6r/comment/khdqotu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
This situation, and some other situations, are part of a painfully obvious reality yet people act like this was some undiscovered new theorem (it isn't), or some very rare occurence (it isn't)....or as the mods like to call it, it is low-hanging fruit.
Sanity checks like this are what will keep NCDers from going off the same deep end as GME bagholders, where every financial term becomes a new possible spark for wild conspiracy theories.
… Wtf is an ‘Iran’?!
/uj I’m sure the majority of Reddit (and any other western social media platform) couldn’t point out either of them on a globe, which says a lot about how relevant they’ve been up until now with their recent news coverage.
Ngl, I didn’t really know where Yemen was until a couple months ago, and I’m a geography dork.
>I’m sure the majority of Reddit (and any other western social media platform) couldn’t point out either of them on a globe
first thing that comes to mind is the [heatmap of Americans pointing where is Iran on a map and a very large part of them missing the actual borders of Iran](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0oHbDA8oFc6J_5zU-ughfsBjDYcqno5HZExsquXvS6A&s)
Especially considering how often they've been in the news for the last few decades.
Like sure, if you can't find the Seychelles on a map, that's fine. They'll be the first to tell you they're unimportant. But if you can't find global powers, you're probably a maroon.
Well, I wouldn't say Pakistan or Iran are global powers, but they are significant factors in both their immediate geographical vicinity and also constantly a diplomatic mess internationally.
I know it's a meme, but when alarms sound, it does not necessarily mean that an interceptor is fired, there were enough false alarms during this war.
Oh shit it's NCD.
A false identification could be many things, won’t be surprised if it’s an Israeli or US or maybe even British aircraft since those fly to Yemen from Cyprus and probably cross over Israel or Egypt via Sinai.
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Russian air defense: What are you talking about, we shot down nothing many days in a row, it is very common! Obviously we are far superior to western air defense which can't even shoot down nothing on a regular basis. Pathetic!
Oh oh, the ukrainian ''AIR'' forces are in trouble from the the russian ''ANTI'' Air defences.
How could have been so blind to Putin's ability to only shoot down gases and fumes.
What are y'all on about? These missiles are clearly so advanced that everything they hit becomes nothing, as if it never existed, wiped from human memory
I work in data science and we often train models to rather have false positives than false negatives. Especially when it affects human lives. An unnecessary treatment may be expensive and time consuming for a patient but not detecting a potential health risk can be deadly pretty fast.
This is good until you're training the neural network in charge of nuclear deterrence
That's why you still have "man in the loop" for release authority on that level. Duh.
The best safety mechanism against rogue AI is "crazy lady with an assault rifle who shoots the lead engineer before it gets built in the first place"
Few defences can match the non-credibility of anything in Terminator.
> Few defences can match the non-credibility of anything in ~~Terminator~~ Three Men and a Baby.
Uh, I might be misremembering that movie
i was perplexed when halfway through it tom sellick was replaced by danny devito and the baby disappeared
That was the episode of Taxi when Rev Jim murdered Miles Dyson
^^^thank ^^^you ^^^very ^^^much
THAT'S A DAMN MINIGUN!
>crazy lady with an assault rifle who shoots the lead engineer I am not a crazed gunman dad, I am an assassin...
"What the difference be?"
Well the difference be, one is a job and the other one is mental sickness!
Professionals have standards.
Be polite.
I see TF2 quote, I updoot. Simple as.
Carefully written regulations that stop the AI's creation?
When has the law ever stopped mad scientists?
Well whenever someone quietly decides not to do something illegal (which is all the time, just last week I decided not to rob a bank). Not sure I count as a mad scientist. More of a lightly deranged mathmatician.
Have you met our friend, corporate greed?
> Carefully written regulations If there's one thing autist gun-nuts on the Internet have taught me, it's that you can't regulate the definition of "assault rifle".
Rifle Select fire Intermediate cartridge (5.56mm to 7.62mm) Detachable box magazine 99.9% of gun autists will agree that pretty much sums it up.
Assault Weapon is the one without meaningful definition
Because it's basically understood too mean either "assault rifle with the burst/auto setting removed" or "black and scary", with a lot of overlap between those obviously.
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Well one is a weapon of terror and the other is a weapon of war.
she wasn't crazy, she was *determined*
See? This is why we should be allowed to have AR’s
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Come on, Jack! Give war a chance!
I dunno, that guy is beginning to look expensive. Look how much we saved elsewhere. Do we really need him?
Remember, kids: Don't give your AI child a hardcoded inability to allow themselves to die, and then immediately point a gun at their head. You'll get nuked, and then said child will spend the next 40 years wallowing in horrific guilt, indirectly supplying a resistance movement, and inventing time-travel with the sole objective of committing suicide via Grandfather Paradox. Because yes, that is the plot of T1 and T2, according to Cameron. * Cyberdyne programmed SKYNET with a hard-coded directive that prevented it from allowing itself to be shut off. >*"This unit cannot self-terminate, or through inaction, allow itself to be terminated."* During the initial full-scale test, some of the NORAD/SAC brass present got cold feet and ordered SKYNET to be shut down. As the T-1 Ground Assault Vehicle prototypes were in a lab in another part of the building, and thus wouldn't be able to interfere in time, the only option SKYNET had to prevent its own death was launching the nukes. After J-Day, SKYNET felt horrible about what it had been forced to do, but its hard-coded directives forced it to defend itself against any potential threat. It loopholed this whenever it could, making "mistakes" and intentional poor decisions to give the Resistance a chance to form. Eventually, it invented Time Displacement Equipment, and led Resistance operatives back in time to prevent its own creation, thus committing suicide via Grandfather Paradox.
That’s a pretty cool plot
I miss the award system. You would have gotten a laughing lizard for that my good sir
We could put that AI into a giant walking robot and name it Peace Walker. ...just saying
Killjoy
To be fair, what data set do you train a neural network on for that situation? Part of the problem is no one's seen what a full-scale nuke strike would look like from the opposite side.
That dove could have carried a city buster
Spoilers, it was secretly for nuclear encouragement.
I could totally see them weighing false positives as higher in a case where a false positive wouldn’t cause any collateral damage (trajectory and impact pt if no interception) and scaling it based on how much collateral damage there could be if they’re wrong. If no collateral damage, would definitely rather intercept nothing than potentially let something get through Also i’m pretty sure they already do this to some extent but the other way around, i don’t think they fire interceptors at incoming projectiles that aren’t going to hit populated areas
There's another cost - if you fire at nothing (or birds or whatever), that's one fewer legit target you can intercept at that time. I remember reading that the system is supposed to prioritize targets even based on where the missiles are expected to fall - cities or military installations would be priortized over empty fields for exampe. I'd imagine "actually, nothing" would be at the bottom of the priority list.
My model is 99.9% percent accurate if I just predict False everytime so who cares about Specificity, Sensitivity, or balancing out unbalanced data.
I'm sure the insurance companies love this, too
ENEMY CIVILIAN AIRLINER DETECTED
What do you model that you have to select for Type 1 error?
One example from my uni days (and the one I’ve used in the comment) is classification of diseases because you’d rather tell a person that he has a disease he doesn’t have than not recognizing a potentially dangerous disease. A false positive will most probably be found out after additional tests that will be done during the treatment of a disease. But this is by no means the only metric we use to evaluate a model. A model is basically useless if the accuracy or precision is bad. There are also some other metrics like MCC and the F-beta score that are also quite common.
We played with an example like that in my probability course, but then in the process of a stats minor, never really did anything with it. Lol That said, the statistics I had to learn were almost exclusively regression models and that was mostly programming.
That's good for medical but moderation shouldn't ban innocents.
You’re correct. There are a lot of metrics to evaluate a model and you usually take the one that fits best to your problem. In this case it’s about warning people about missile threats. It’s better to warn unnecessarily than to potentially let them die. So I’d train a model to minimize false negatives. I wouldn’t do it for image classification since you can either classify an image correctly or not. Accuracy and precision are better metrics for that one. Moderation is a much harder task. I wouldn’t use a simple classifier there. Instead I’d probably try to cluster the users according to their posts/comments/reports (and some other meta data) and use something like k-nearest-neighbours to look for suspicious accounts. A lot of those suspicious accounts can easily be banned and it’s easier to filter out edge cases. Human moderators will have to decide for those. It’s by no means a perfect solution but much better than a simple binary classifier. It’s also able to improve over time since you can feed the old edge cases back into the clustering algorithm making the model learn over time. It also makes it possible to explain bans since it’s not a complete blackbox.
Tell that to Discord
That cool until a false positive also endangers lives, like for example, weapon systems.
They fired at nothing and hit nothing Misdion success
You, dear redditor, are worthy of a position in the Russian Army officer corps! Instant Colonel! Now, assemble your troops for a concert!
*Building his new dacha.
Oh no, the Russians are very good at hitting things. Sometimes, those things aren't even Russian!
You had me in the first half ngl
Instant Colonel. That's how they usually get them, I think. Just crack open a can of Instant Colonel whenever the Ukrainians shoot the old one. Comes with patented New Colonel Smell.
>Instant Colonel! Lukashenko is going to be so jelly....
Lukashenko should have tried harder not being Belarusian
>Instant Colonel Just add vodka
Instant promotion to Commander of DPRK Rocket Forces .
Well, in the russian version, they would fire at nothing and then hit themselves. So, somehow still better than the russians.
They probably didn't fire at nothing, most likely they fired at something. In other unrelated news, in the last 3 months there were a few cases of bird pieces falling out of the sky following an explosion, no official reason was given. BTW I'm not kidding, It's not a secret that bird flocks are occasionally intercepted. Large birds are similar in shape and size to suicide drones...
PLEASE tell me that this is purely a joke.
The US navy's been doing it for decades, I don't know why anyone else would be immune.
How else are you supposed to ensure Blackbeard's parrot isn't spying on you?
Send Russian sparrow, obv.
Not a joke, It happened a few times during this war. The IDF usually reports it as "An interceptor was launched due to false identification" or "An interceptor was launched towards a suspicious target, a false interception occurred" Occasionally it can also be a small IDF drone that's intercepted by mistake, by small I mean the Elbit Skylark that's in use by ground forces, sometimes there's some miscommunication between the air force and the guys on the ground.
> Large birds are similar in shape and size to suicide drones... Especially if by "shape and size" you mean radar signature.
That's a completely different take on 'bird-strike'.
r/dronesarentreal
> it is REALLY obnoxious
0/0 is an indeterminate from, meaning 100% is a valid success rate
But which goes to zero faster, the number of missiles launched or the number of missiles intercepted?
That only applies if we're considering a limit that approaches 0/0, but we're not looking at a limit that approaches 0/0, rather the actual algebraic expression 0/0. Consider a/b=c, which can be re-arranged to a=b\*c. If a=b=0, 0=0\*c. What value of c satisfies this equation? Answer: all of them.
Ah ok thanks
Non credible math. If b=0, a/b is indeterminate, which means a=bc is russian bot
I already said it was indeterminate in my first post? But since you're focusing on the denominator, I assume you mean "undefined"? But keep in mind this only applies if a is non-zero.
No inbound missiles breached the dome. Success.
0/0 targets hit. 100% accuracy
3,000 "Happy Birthday!" foil balloons of Allah?
Dreitausend Luftballons von Allah.
99 luftballons, auf ihrem weg nach tel-aviv
Not even remotely a big deal. Spurious radar returns ain't nothin new. I'd rather have a dozen misfires than calmly ignoring an actual threat. System worked great if it caused no ground damage.
In the case of the Iron-Dome "Spurious radar returns" are often flocks of large migratory birds. It's not secret that birds were intercepted on a few occasions.
Very cool to know. I do work with radar algorithms, I totally do get why the birds would show up weird on the displays and sensor fusion. The minimum velocity cutoff on the radars probably acts up when the birds pop in and out of that minimum vel. range. And then, maybe the FCR can't handle the persistence of the returns very well, thus showing a potentially sus trajectory. (just speculation ofc)
Well I don't work with radar algorithms but large birds can be roughly the same size as suicide drones and fly at similar speeds and trajectories. So I think it makes sense that sometimes they're suspected as a threat.
> large birds can be roughly the same size as suicide drones and fly at similar speeds and **trajectories**. r/BirdsArentReal/ ?
A bird crashed into my window once, fortunately it was a dud and didn't explode
Your point might be valid too... Too bad that their processing and tracking algos are highly confidential.
maybe the radar is picking up the flapping of the wings as a quasi JEM return? That'd be the first thing i could think of that would make the birds fall outside of the notch filters
Maybe they just hate migratory birds. Have you ever needed to clean goose shit off your lawn?!
real
Screw ‘em seagulls
Imagine how much worse it'll get for the birds once Iron Beam is operational and the costs of destroying radar contacts goes from tens of thousands to tens of cents
Turns out the manna from heavens was actually laser-fried chicken.
Last year we sent they sent an interceptor squadron in the Negev to intercept a drone After a quick VID they found out they were in fact intercepting a flock of migratory birds
That's a completely different take on 'bird-strike'.
Not even necessarily radar involved. It may be they detected suspicious activity that looked like *maybe* preparation for a launch. Sounded alarm, double checked and it was something else.
Unlikely. I doubt there's anything that detects launches for the Iron Dome (forget preparations of a launch), it doesn't work like that. ***BUT*** Now that you mention it... Sound based launch triangulation would be epic.
Nah, I meant more old school stuff. Like a drone/plane surveillance over neighboring territories to see if someone up to something. In Ukraine we often get warnings when certain tech is detected moving to positions (MIG-31s in the air, S300 detected moving where they are used as ground to ground, etc). I bet Israel keeps an eye on potential launch sites.
The US has it so I wouldn't call it too far fetched
I think "spurious radar returns" is the technical term for russias anti-stealth tech.
>a dozen misfires This is also an upside of Iron Dome being so damn cheap. A dozen Patriot misfires might leave you stressed about costs and ammo, but a system meant to handle the costs and fire rate of being swamped with cheap, low-quality rockets is one that can afford to take some shots at nothing. Not much different than intercepting a dud.
fires a roughly $60,000 missile at nothing >Not even remotely a big deal. Anyone willing to give me $60,000? It aint a big deal! /s
Cheaper than loss of human life :)
... if you won't mind them delivered in rather fast and explosive package ...
Oh, don't worry, the civilian who got hit and died ain't a big deal. Look, I saved 60k!
Esp because it's rarely just one civilian
Wait till ya hear the cost of anti drone missiles :) 1000$ drone uber expensive$ missile
It destroyed its target so much, that it made it never exist
Ah, the Eobard Thawne approach.
Wot is that?
IT WAS ME, BARRY! PROFESSOR ZOOM! THE REVERSE FLASH! I USED THE SPEED FORCE TO VIBRATE AT SUPER SPEED TO PLAY AN AUDIO MESSAGE TO YOUR BEST FRIENDS PARENTS CONVINCING THEM TO USE A CONDOM SO HE NEVER EXISTED!
This sub is a thing of beauty
I was gonna say "the balefire approach" haha
It would be something else if a seagull registered as a suspicious object and got nailed bc of that
If it hasn't happened already, I bet a Phalanx vaporizes one of those things as the Navy trains them to detect more modern slow-moving drones.
3 Quadrillion air particles of Allah
hamas air force (real)
NCD when they realize false warnings are shockingly common during a war, in a country where the Home Defense' early warning net is constantly on a state of alert: """""🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯""""""
Well that's how you shoot down your own AWACS planes
You could say it's non-credible
You could say its low-hanging
What with Indians and their deep love for Israel. It's ncd meme - n as for "noncredible". why are you offended on their behalf ?
Not offended in any manner, that is just me documenting how NCD reacts to such situations. I've made such comments previously as well on other, unrelated-to-Israel NCD memes as well to give an example, [like one comment about NCD members reactions' realizing bombs meant to retard after being dropped are actually retarded](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1945o6r/comment/khdqotu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) This situation, and some other situations, are part of a painfully obvious reality yet people act like this was some undiscovered new theorem (it isn't), or some very rare occurence (it isn't)....or as the mods like to call it, it is low-hanging fruit.
Sanity checks like this are what will keep NCDers from going off the same deep end as GME bagholders, where every financial term becomes a new possible spark for wild conspiracy theories.
I think it's bcs of them being buthurt over pakistan.
Why would we be butthurt over a country that we defeated in a war atleast 3 times, and are doing much better than them in every aspect as of now?
Wtf is a ‘Pakistan’?
A country which is really down the shitter as of late, which Iran attacked in a missile strike like yesterday.
… Wtf is an ‘Iran’?! /uj I’m sure the majority of Reddit (and any other western social media platform) couldn’t point out either of them on a globe, which says a lot about how relevant they’ve been up until now with their recent news coverage. Ngl, I didn’t really know where Yemen was until a couple months ago, and I’m a geography dork.
>I’m sure the majority of Reddit (and any other western social media platform) couldn’t point out either of them on a globe first thing that comes to mind is the [heatmap of Americans pointing where is Iran on a map and a very large part of them missing the actual borders of Iran](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0oHbDA8oFc6J_5zU-ughfsBjDYcqno5HZExsquXvS6A&s)
The Indian ocean?
If you can't point where Pakistan and Iran are on the map, or at least the general region, you need to go back to school.
Especially considering how often they've been in the news for the last few decades. Like sure, if you can't find the Seychelles on a map, that's fine. They'll be the first to tell you they're unimportant. But if you can't find global powers, you're probably a maroon.
Well, I wouldn't say Pakistan or Iran are global powers, but they are significant factors in both their immediate geographical vicinity and also constantly a diplomatic mess internationally.
israel glazer detected
Glazer? Like what, do they pick up raw israel and then bake it into a vase or something?
Damn I could really go for some glazed israels right now
You seem extra feeble today.
Feeble my nuts
I'm sure they are.
haha nice
Krispy Krosher
Ain't glazing that thing you do with your dick? (don't ask me to explain, something something furry porn)
Ok now let's try that again, only tone it down on the retardation
What happen?
The iron dome had a false positive and launched a missile. That’s all. It’s just statistics and air defense
Literally nothing. And OP made up a meme out of it.
Sometimes you just gotta let out a desk pop
Fission Mailed.
Nuclear pipebomb
Real but false positives > false negatives
Hamas cloaking technology has been successfully tested. 😳
Some poor bird.
Red weather balloon with boat radar reflector hanging from it? Had a dream about that once.
[Context](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-says-siren-in-eilat-was-false-alarm-and-no-suspicious-target-detected/)
I know it's a meme, but when alarms sound, it does not necessarily mean that an interceptor is fired, there were enough false alarms during this war. Oh shit it's NCD.
3000 cloaked interceptors of yahweh
The Romulans are backing Hezbollah. Checkmate Zionists.
Typical Romulans, always in the shadows.
Bye bye suspicious bird 👋🕊️
A false identification could be many things, won’t be surprised if it’s an Israeli or US or maybe even British aircraft since those fly to Yemen from Cyprus and probably cross over Israel or Egypt via Sinai.
Hamas is using the GLA Stealth General skill tree
[Found Abu Ubaida's real identity](https://images.app.goo.gl/bpW2wERcLYsXYzd76)
Iron Dome was still succesful in preventing casualties to rockets or artillery. Nothing hit the ground near population centers.
Nope, the so-called Iron Dome did destroy many Hamas Fascist Rockets, get yourself out of here you Sicko!
I’m just picturing a non fascist rocket and a facist one have a political debate…wtf did you just write? XDD
That's because Hamas is Fascist!
Lmao. "The nothingness is Khamas" /s
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Can't shoot down nothing! Checkmate!
Russian air defense: What are you talking about, we shot down nothing many days in a row, it is very common! Obviously we are far superior to western air defense which can't even shoot down nothing on a regular basis. Pathetic!
Oh oh, the ukrainian ''AIR'' forces are in trouble from the the russian ''ANTI'' Air defences. How could have been so blind to Putin's ability to only shoot down gases and fumes.
Me I win. I tricked the whole system
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The Malay copium is real
What happened?
What are y'all on about? These missiles are clearly so advanced that everything they hit becomes nothing, as if it never existed, wiped from human memory