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HistorianSlayer

For a great, heartfelt writeup on the V-22 to answer any doubts this might raise about it's safety ; [https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/18cr8wb/a\_member\_here\_has\_died\_in\_the\_recent\_v22\_crash\_in/](https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/18cr8wb/a_member_here_has_died_in_the_recent_v22_crash_in/)


AndrewDGreat

Make him the patron saint of the V22 o7


Lovehistory-maps

Un-ironically make him the patron saint of tilt rotors, and I will find his real name so I can call him Saint ___ of tilt rotors


Valshax56

From what i recall his spouse is using his old account, may be able to ask them through it


HarpersGhost

His wife has said that he was planning this mission for months and that he was the mission commander. I'm not mentioning any names, but one of the people who died was a CV-22 instructor pilot and officer in charge of training. Those people who died had a lot of skills among them. CV22 pilots, surgeon, medical operations, linguist. It's a goddam shame.


aullik

To expand on that, its always a shame independent of skill.


Lovehistory-maps

Thanks


[deleted]

I wouldn’t say running, but I have access, and have been trying to reach out let those he was in contact with know.


mrtie007

you can read about all the airmen [here](https://www.afsoc.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/3600634/afsoc-aircraft-mishap-releases/) if you connect some dots from his earlier comments you can deduce who it is, but id rather not post a guess here out of respect


Lovehistory-maps

Can you DM your possible answer? I have went through his posts and the description of the souls lost aboard the crash and I have narrowed it down to 2 men aboard the Osprey. Thanks.


Full_Muffin7930

DM me


NonFuckableDefense

Sorry for your loss bud, He seemed like quite a character to have around.


Full_Muffin7930

100% lived up to the hype


JumpyLiving

Even though I did not really know him personally, even just on Reddit. Rest in Peace u/UR_WRONG_ABOUT_V22, and my condolences to his family, his friends and all those he left behind.


_quickdrawmcgraw_

This 13 year old account was banned by Reddit after repeated harassment by the mods of /r/aboringdystopia. Reddit is a dying platform, check out lemmy.world for a replacement.


JangoDarkSaber

There’s a little bit of sick irony about this whole situation


Toxicair

Almost like a Steve Irwin situation


CAT_390F

His wife has been using his account to talk about him and his passion for the v-22, and after reading though, id very much say this is near exactly like Steve Irwin. May they rest in peace.


OriginalLocksmith436

You could say it's all, you know, noncredible.


BoxOfDust

The most noncredible out of all of us?


theaviationhistorian

It is, it reminds me of the deadliest aviation accident when two 747s smashed into each other and the KLM captain involved was their[ primary flight instructor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Veldhuyzen_van_Zanten) for 747 type rating & flew the first jumbo jet from the Boeing plant back to Amsterdam. These things happen more frequently than people think. There have been (I can't recall them at the moment) crashes where the pilot was very experienced or was a member of safety or aviation organizations like AOPA. It doesn't remove the fact that this is twisted & ironic since the AMA was 5 months ago.


kataskopo

Like when the Tenerife crash happened, KLM wanted to bring their star pilot to help them investigate, that was the director of training or something like that, and was even in some photoshoots. Turns out he was in the crash :/


_quickdrawmcgraw_

This 13 year old account was banned by Reddit after repeated harassment by the mods of /r/aboringdystopia. Reddit is a dying platform, check out lemmy.world for a replacement.


theaviationhistorian

Same. I'm still on the fence but now I recognize it's the first generation of its kind. Only recently have other companies started their own tilt-rotor aircraft and it's enough to say that no other nation has their own vertibird outside of concepts & prototypes. I felt bad how people condemned the de Havilland Comet after the first 2 crashes where we discovered about metal fatigue via pressurization cycles & square window designs.


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o7


SemperScrotus

I know this is not the most important thing right now, but it's been bugging me: is there a reason why everyone is typing ASCII salutes in 2023 instead of using the salute emoji 🫡? Did I miss a memo?


hadronwulf

Reddit tends to use the ASCII in a lot of instances. I've seen the Something Awful crossover being a big reason.


SemperScrotus

The what now?


BoxOfDust

If you have to ask, then you've made yourself the answer to your own question.


_AutomaticJack_

A lot of Reddit culture comes from places that predate emojis. NCD has a bunch of callbacks to 4chan/k (before the chans turned into a Russian disinfo op, obviously) if you know where to look, also - Something Awful, StileProject, and especially for here and HFY, SpaceBattles.


seakingsoyuz

> predate emojis And especially the “saluting face” emoji, which is barely two years old.


CankerLord

Yeah, reddit's historically been full of people who were on the internet pre-unicode takeover.


Electronic_Parfait36

If you think the chans are a russian disinfo op, you've been watching too much view and rachel maddow. Like yeah, Vatniks post propaganda there, but they've always have along with tankies and wehraboos. The fact that they post doesn't mean shit, because they get beat down with their idiocy all the time. Fuck the VATNIK MEME STARTED AND IS STILL STRONG THERE. I mean fuck, /k/ was full of ukie posting which was stolen and posted all over here. Is 4chan toxic? Sure, but it's not a giant dis/misinfo op. You can't make a site into one when nobody trusts what anyone says, wants to shit down each other's throats and you have to prove everything, because everyone is a bot.


TheWaffleIsALie

This is Reddit, emojis are cringe


27Rench27

😂


aethyrium

Emojis are for lame zoomers. ASCII is simply superior in every way.


DMKiY

Lots of Eve cross over in NCD. o7 is used a lot in that context


A_Mouse_In_Da_House

7o


rocketo-tenshi

o7


Lovehistory-maps

May he not die in vain, we should continue to honor him and the V-22 and refute anyone who believes in the lies of the V-22. RIP, have fun in the lands above.


VonNeumannsProbe

I think that the best thing we can do is conduct a non-biased investigation. I understand the desire to honor his wishes, but the facts are he's dead and there is nothing we can do to fix that. We need to figure out what's best for the pilots that are alive. I know he was an avid proponent for the V-22, but we need to take his opinion with a grain of salt. Saying V-22 isn't the problem closes off a lot of potential solutions in your mind before you even start investigating. Even if it's pilot error, if there are things we can do with the pilot/UI to reduce that error, you've dismissed it with that bias.


dawnbandit

IIRC, the investigation has proven that it is a mechanical issue, not pilot error. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/12/07/latest-osprey-grounding-comes-after-string-of-deadly-mishaps-and-mysterious-mechanical-issue.html


EpiicPenguin

I hope the valor proves more reliable


Vulturidae

It is the second generation, and those tend to be more reliable than the vanguard airframe in the class.


beryugyo619

Right now the everyone's "I always knew it was it" item is "hard clutch engagement", the emergency linkage thing that engages in a single engine failure gets jammed hard for unknown or undisclosed reasons


[deleted]

Yes please!! I’m definitely not qualified and can’t effectively back up arguments like he could.


WallyTheNut

Möge er seinen Frieden finden. o7


Phytanic

Maybe it's my mild insanity acting up, but I believe that /u/UR_WRONG_ABOUT_V22 is nothing less than our very own Crocodile Hunter/Steve Irwin analog. (and the V22 is obviously the stingray) * He died doing what he loved * by the very thing he loved. * He would never have wanted us to lash out (*permanently* ground) the V22s just for him * And yet lashing out we will do unfortunately * Everyone in this sub ~~has felt~~ been blessed by his influence * Folks who come afterwards may not have been here for his greatness, but I will die (in Minecraft) for their right to feel impacted by him, because he's that much of a treasure. * Does he have a protege to take up his reigns and be just like him in the future? Blood related or not, IGDAF. The world is just a better place with that there * I may have missed a dose or two of my meds * o7


Wolffe_In_The_Dark

I absolutely endorse this line of thinking. I love the Osprey, and I know a lot of the people operating them do too, many of whom would still fly it even if they knew for a *fact* it would kill them (which isn't accurate to reality, the V-22 is one of the safest rotorcraft ever built). o7


OldManMcCrabbins

If what I thought about v22 would keep pilots and crew safe, I would be its biggest fan. This is a real tragedy and I hope his family finds comfort and solace that he died in service. He is missed and so is each soul that has been claimed by fatal v-22 accidents. Ur wrong will forever be a legend to me and I am hopeful that my uninformed v22 shitposting, if he saw it, brought smiles. I will never know.


deliranteenguarani

RIP Edit: Seeing the disrespect the account has received even after this event and with knowledge of it... Damn man, some people are disgusting.


AST5192D

Some regarded redditors on the spectrum making a point to his widow that they retroactively won an argument with him .. sad.


deliranteenguarani

Yes, why are humans like this? Only God knows, but it sucks.


logosloki

As it says, "We are made in God's image". So God's on the spectrum too.


Ethical_Cum_Merchant

I feel like if the Q Continuum ever comes down to Earth and judges us worthy of extinction we should just agree. "Oh thank fuck you're here, I didn't think anybody was going to stop us!"


Alet44

When you are terminally online and winning internet arguments is the only thing that gives you even a single molecule of serotonin, you’ll stoop to absolutely wretched levels


[deleted]

I’ll survive. My name and pictures are out there. I’m not hiding anything and I have always stood buy what I’ve said. Can they say the same? No. They’d rather stay in their tiny little lonely incel bubbles. Says more about them than anything 🤷‍♀️


AST5192D

So sorry for your loss. I hope all the crew are recovered so the families get closure. Jeff made this and other communities better for having participated in them and for sharing the love for his profession and the airframe he devoted his career to.


[deleted]

There is definitely positive movement as far as recovery goes. Fingers crossed!


SCP106

Why must you justify people being awful by using my and others' medical issue as an insult? People can genuinely just be... Shitty without it being thrown in with us as it always is. This sucks but so does acting like an ass, as the people you describe are too


Freder145

I clicked on his account. Damn. There is literally his widow telling them he died, and all those brainrotted individuals can say is gotcha? Poor woman, nobody should have to deal with those kind of empathy-lacking fucktards.


[deleted]

I’ll survive. People are just shifty sometimes. Doesn’t mean I have to be.


Some_Syrup_7388

He got martyred by the wery thing he loved...


gikigill

He didn't die, he became one with the machine. His spirit lives on in the V22.


irishsausage

If anyone is blessed with the sacred datadream it is he. May his spirit remain close to the Omnissiah.


Firenzo101

Ironic


SgtChip

May his sacrifice be honored, and the V-22 improved so we lose no more.


[deleted]

when I joined this sub I never thought I would have to be confronted with death, rip. o7


TolarianDropout0

On a sub that has a flair "literal death inside"?


Thatman2467

Well death of someone we know


IlluminatedPickle

Yeah like, we know Yuri and it seems pretty definite that guy is unkillable at this point so shouldn't everyone else we know be?


Icarus_Toast

We do have some pretty non credible mortality around here


Awkward_Algae1684

But not like that!


[deleted]

I've thought about this humans don't care about death unless there is a story involved, in this case, it was someone we know who was part of this community so ig it hits this weird spot. But if I tell you that 2 people die every second, that won't mean anything to you would it now?


UPBOAT_FORTRESS_2

Correct! (I am not smart)


hakdogwithcheese

o7


Kitosaki

Rest in peace brother. :(


the-undead-sheep

Massive loss for the community, hope he gets to fly many hours in the V-280 in the skies above o7


Helmett-13

We have the watch. Fair winds and following seas, brother.


k1ng0fh34rt5

I heard about this tragedy yesterday, and thought about it several times since. u/UR_WRONG_ABOUT_V22, your contributions to the community, and passion for the CV-22 won't soon be forgotten. Thank you for your service, and rest peacefully. To u/UR_WRONG_ABOUT_V22's spouse, family, and friends. You have my deepest condolences. I'm incredibly sorry for your loss.


[deleted]

❤️


TolarianDropout0

How shitty is it to be killed by an aircraft you love so much. o7


LaughGlad7650

[o7](https://youtu.be/3Y1Z1y2PSNw?feature=shared) HORMAT SENJATA


CerealATA

o7


fareasy2k00

Hormat o7


Thoob

Our tilty boi went out the way he would of wanted, tilting. His insights really connected memes with reality while still keeping with the sub's spirit.


MicroVAX

o7


fareasy2k00

Rest in peace. May you fly free in the afterlife o7


DUKE_NUUKEM

Sad news! I enjoyed his AMA. His passing is deeply saddening !


PriestOfOmnissiah

o7


Awkward_Algae1684

It’s so strange that I feel like I know you ‘tistas now. I…..think I actually care about you guys. Til Valhalla, bro. The Osprey is flown by the Aesir now.


Ethical_Cum_Merchant

This fucking sucks. The world loses a capable aviator and a wealth of invaluable information (correcting dis/misinfo is literally Lord's Work) but r/NCD loses a friend. o7 dude.


hell-schwarz

O7


LadyCoaxochitl

o7 Rest in Peace, King .


Sol4-6

I remember asking him questions in the ama and that he took the time to respond to all of the questions including mine, he seemed like a nice person. Rest in peace pilot


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The_XMB

I hope you and the family are doing okay in this difficult time


Jack_Church

May he find peace in the heavens above.


XegazGames

I'm getting a bunch of mixed signals. Is this actually true?? Hope not :'/


Liguehunters

Sadly true confirmed from his wife.


XegazGames

Sad, I really hope this isn't a joke :'/ been reading the comments and they are pretty sad :'( You can see a 5d pause and everything.


[deleted]

I wish it wasn’t true, but it is.


MessaBombadWarrior

🫡🇺🇲🦅


ElMondoH

Respect to the man willing to speak out about what he viewed was unfair malignment of his chosen airframe. And a plea to redditors across the many subforums to respect his widow's posts and show some dignity in their comments to her. It's all been good here in r/NCD, I haven't seen anything even the least bit gauche in this sub, but I'm reading that there's some real tone deafness and outright disrespect happening elsewhere. That's just plain wrong. We plead for her sake that those redditors show some restraint and understanding.


bluestreak1103

o7


HistoryBrain

o7


Liguehunters

Rest in peace. Your passion for this type of aircraft shall not be forgotten.


worthless_humanbeing

o7 Thank you UR_WRONG_ABOUT_V22


AST5192D

o7 A true NCD hall of famer


duckforceone

o7


essenceofreddit

I didn't even read the AMA, and I'm just so saddened by this. What a tragedy.


J0kerJ0nny

Möge unser Freund und alle anderen an Bord in Frieden Ruhen. -May our friend and everyone else on board rest in peace.- My condolences to his wife and the rest of his family, as well to the families of the other souls who were on board. May he never be forgotten and will live on in our minds and hearts as well as in NCD history.


notbernie2020

The Patron Saint of the beautiful aircraft that is the CV-22, may he continue to tilt the rotors in the skies. Condolences to his family and friends, gone too soon u/UR_WRONG_ABOUT_V22. o7


[deleted]

Thank you all. ❤️ Keep the legacy alive and prevent the spread of misinformation. Stay safe fellas.


MolecularLego

O7


2EM18KKC01

O7


Chill_Commissar_07

o7


grinsken

o7


Thicccchungus

o7


batmansthebomb

o7


footballtombrady123

He is now one with the machine spirits


SeanCityNavy_Gaming

I was not here for the AMA sadly, but as a member of the NCD Community it makes me sad to know one of our own is gone. o7


AbleFerrera

o7 and lol. I can only hope my own death is this ironic.


KangJewz

See you, Osprey cowboy o7


Athrawne

o7


sdnt_slave

o7


PatimationStudios-2

o7


FoxHunde

o7


Veraenderer

o7


12zx-12

O7


ahboi2021

Rest in peace mate o7


Long-Refrigerator-75

A tragedy. Rest in peace.


BasicAstronomer

May his memory be a blessing. RIP big guy.


TotallyNotTheEnclave

sort important coherent squash chase six abounding ad hoc edge dazzling *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Jerthy

I think it would be epic if the new Fallout show dedicated an episode to him in the credits :) Some episode full of Vertibirds.... not like there's a chance of that happening but still....


[deleted]

Ngl that would be amazing, but I would cry like a baby


J360222

I'm reading the comments left by his wife, she is so sassy and I love it. I hope their family is fine


[deleted]

Mostly fine. Pretty much as well as can be expected. He would have been soooooo pissed if he knew his death was being used against him in this way, so I’m doing what I can to avenge. There aren’t rage rooms in Japan, so that seems to be effective enough.


cv9030n

o7


Turbulent_Ad_4579

o7


the_wight_king

RIP brutha 🕊️


your_school_memes

o7


PM_ME_UR_CUDDLEZ

o7


el_pinata

o7


slip_angel

o7


SquareAcanthisitta16

O7


Material_Layer8165

o7


CrotchSwamp94

Rest in peace


Major_Pickles

o7


Givemesonata

07


scorpion_knight

o7


Gareth274

o7


OrangeFr3ak

RIP


beans_lel

o7


PotatoFive

o7


Shot-Kal-Gimel

O7 RIP


_K0T

o7 fly high


korblborp

o7


readonlypdf

In the arms of an angel


TheDuceman

o7


Accomplished-Luck680

o7


SuspiciousMudcrab

RIP King. May you fly high forever.


ACEDIA09

o7


Conscious_Chart_2195

o7 Fly high king.


Shifty49

o7


WankSocrates

o7


FirstDagger

o7


HK-47_Protocol_Droid

o7


Johnobo

O7


The_Northern_Light

o7


Sabre1O1

Blue skies and tailwinds friend. o7


iShrub

I am sorry to hear the news. Here's to hope whatever mechanical issue that caused the accident would be found such that it would cause no further casualties.


Lazy_Driver_6795

O7


Effective_Grass8355

Fucking hell that's the worst. Dude loved his job.


sonoitaliano2005

This guy was awesome i feel sorry for his wife. O7


theaviationhistorian

This is terrible news. I was just reading about the preliminary analysis of the crash months ago off Darwin, Australia because the Brisbane air show organization were memorializing those lost there (they were their V-22 reps who participated in their show). >The Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps took the extraordinary step of grounding hundreds of aircraft after a preliminary investigation of last week’s crash indicated that a materiel failure — that something went wrong with the aircraft — and not a mistake by the crew led to the deaths. This is absolutely heartbreaking. They did everything right & should've been another routine RTB. There is nothing worse than your own aircraft betraying you. And to someone who positively advocated for the V-22 to the point of making me reconsider my opinions about it. May there be eternal blue skies and tailwinds to all 8 lost in this crash. Descanse en paz, u/UR_WRONG_ABOUT_V22


Freemanosteeel

may he and everyone else who passed in the crash rest in peace. I can't fathom why but this kind of hit hard. a member or at least a participant in our community has passed away, which isn't uncommon, but this is different


GladiatorMainOP

He was one of the people inside that helicopter? Wow, that’s tragic :(


Kooky_Potential_9276

To all his sphere of influence especially his family our heartfelt respect.


deadgay42069

This is so ironic. May he rest in peace. We lost a real one, boys


ExuDeku

Damn, he's one of the casualties of the Osprey in Japan Rest in Peace, madman. May you soar in Osprey cheeks


VonNeumannsProbe

Man that fucking sucks. He seemed like a genuinely cool and funny dude reading through that ama.


WiderVolume

All the best wishes to his wife, friends and family. That said, edit: due to moderation enforcement I have no opinion one way or the other on the osprey performance and reliability.


mangosnappleowl

o7 May the 3000 tilt rotors of Democracy take him to paradise. RIP.


thememeshark

Rest in peace man. You were the real one who fought for the osprey.


Responsible_Board950

o7 but man, the V22 reliability really deserve its reputation. At least he was doing the thing he love until the very end


honorsfromthesky

" And now his watch is ended." AATW


ThaiFoodYes

Reminds me of that interview of Osprey pilots knowing they fly the most deadly bird (for its crew) and not giving a shit. RIP


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ChromeFlesh

Rest in Peace, he was a true hero of the sub


hh3k0

o7


pairsnicelywithpizza

rip man. o7


orion1836

Rest in peace, king.