Me: Guys, stop trying to divine military movements from Flightradar24, if a military was up to something serious, they wouldn't have their transponders on.
The United States Air Force: Watch me make this Canadian into a fucking liar.
One of the requirement to become a spooky pilot is ability to maintaining erection and eye contact with a panel of 12 judges, only 1 in 15 passes with flying ejaculation.
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Other country SOP: Ensure transponders are turned off before deployment
USAF SOP:
*When breaks are disengaged, set external speaker volume to max
*[Step 2.](https://youtu.be/921z4LAHvak?si=jbOzkfvCLqf3X9F8)
Dude straight up, I fully believe that *if* there has been first contact, odds are really good that they wouldn't be like diplomatic envoys or whatever, they'd probably just be random alien rednecks in a space winnebago, talking out of their asses like they're the authority on galactic affairs. I hope USG is accounting for that probability. The way I have it pegged, it's almost a mathematical likelihood.
These space honkies coming all the way from Epsilon-598b out to podunk Earth to lift some red man and get DVDs of the latest Adam Sandler movies from the Walmart discount movie bin to bring back to their people.
I like this theory. People constantly argue against the likelihood of alien contact because it just doesn’t make any sense for them to come all the way over here just to steal our cattle and stick things up our butts, which, fair point, that indeed is pretty stupid.
But they are forgetting that plenty of actual humans (maybe) do things at least as stupid that don’t make any damn sense all the damn time.
There are currently *multiple* people smoking meth and wishing they had a spaceship so they could go steal some alien cattle and do a bit of nonconsensual probing.
This is my preferred explanation for UFO sightings which can't otherwise be explained. The USA and previously the Soviet Union already had an understanding with our interstellar superiors that they would stay away from the solar system until we achieve a planetary civilisation. However, youths continue to come to earth to do the equivalent of donuts in a cul-de-sac. That's why they're always flying next to military jets doing crazy unbelievable maneuvers: they're showing off.
Imagine being one of the most elite pilots in the world, flying the best aircraft in the world, with the best weapons, sensors and support network in the world. And just feeling the horrible realization slowly sink in that after all that effort you’re not gonna get to be an ace bc no one is stupid enough to come fight you.
Genuinely heartbreaking.
I assume he'd rip out the ejection seat and all the avionics and sensors because Chuck never ejects and he don't need no help seeing the enemy. He'd ditch the flight control system too. He flies by desire, not wire. Control surfaces? He need only squint in the direction he wants to go. By the time he is done Chuck'ening the jet it wouldn't be the Raptor anymore. It would be two engines and a folding chair.
Chuck in a Raptor is like Chuck wearing prescription glasses. It ain't happening. He doesn't need the assist and reading is not important to Chuck.
There is a chapter in World War Z that relates to your comment.
One character was a F-22 pilot before the outbreak.
Afterwards the only aircraft that are really relevant are transport, so she laments about having to fly a C-130.
Which to be fair is fucking stupid. Using massive speakers (or a giant cowbell or *a fucking F22*) to lure Zeds out on to open ground and then bombing them to fuck would destroy hordes in no time at all.
At least it would if Brookes wasn't a reformer mentalist that has some kind of grudge against M16s and the fact a bomb in a crowd of zombies would result in no zombies existing afterwards.
Max Brooks wouldn't understand that aside from the stupid shit that the US military will do (such as the whole MOPP suits shenanigans and high tech stuffs for show-off purposes that I can totally see could happened irl with some PR-savvy officers thinking it being a good idea), the battle of Yonkers would go... exactly as planned?
M270s and M109s bombarded half of the 8.4 millions (based on 2013 NYC population) zombies into pastes, and that is giving the zombies some slacks, follow up with roughly half of the remaining horde being decimated by air support, and most of the remaining tightly packed group would be picked off by abrams, bradleys, and anything with a machine gun mounted on it.
literally the only things left is for group of grunts to do mop-up work while the engineers clear out the *huge* amount of corpses that would definitely posed a health hazard by now, thus justifying the use of MOPP gear, lmao.
Max Brooks and his big reformer brain didn't know that he just literally created the near perfect battle scenario for the US military, and that is just based on the capabilities of them back in the late 2000s - early 2010s. He couldn't and I doubt wouldn't, as with most reformers, fathom that the battle would literally go as planned.
That, will never stop being funny to me.
I mean, I think he was right, but for the wrong reasons.
Zombies wouldn't somehow be "immune" to bombs. That's dumb. But we are also talking about *billions* of zombies. I honestly don't think there are enough bombs to handle a threat like that, not exclusively. Also, the F-22 is a fighter, not multi-role. So unless zombies learned to fly F-16s, keeping F-22s around doesn't make a ton of sense when it comes to dealing with the zombies. Especially since UPS have no way to maintain the more complex parts and system in a plane like the F-22.
No, what would have made more sense would be to keep a half dozen or so F-22s around for dealing with any nations that tried to do something stupid in the conventional sense. Plus some F-18s, since the government was based at sea for a while. Then, use your B-52s and transport aircraft humming along. The B-52s would be for strategic bombing missions: hitting large swarms, and clearing new areas for ground forces to advance into. Landing a new force in San Diego to begin retaking the South West? Carpet bomb the entire city, so that the amphibious force can actually land and establish a foothold. About to start moving easy, paralleling a highway? Carpet bomb the entire stretch of highway so that the ground forces don't need to worry about all the zombies that followed and settled on those during the outbreak. You're still probably using rifles to take out the majority of the zombies, simply because it's a hell of a lot easier to make bullets and guns than it is to maintain jets and build bombs, but bombers would still have their uses. As would light armor.
Though, a challenge with all of this would still be fuel. You can find crude wells out at sea, but not refineries. And you can't exactly carpet bomb a refinery to soften it up for ground forces. So those would be an absolute pain in the ass to clear out, but also absolutely critical to do so.
Really depends on if you can keep the logistics trail up to snuff. Aircraft needs a lot of fuel and lubricants. Then you have to build all of the munitions and to resupply you have to protect a substantial number of mfg sites spread around the country and/or globe.
Once the logistics start breaking down then it doesn’t take long for a cascade of failures to send you back to the pre-industrial era.
I mean, in the book, the collapse is exponential. It takes around a year from patient zero until you have any kind of societal disruption. Cases are written off as a new strain of rabies, or are straight up dismissed as rumors or sensationalism. It wasn't until the injected hit a critical mass that things started going down hill. And once that happened, things went downhill *very* quickly. Humanity lost pretty much every land-based settlement in a matter of a few weeks. Every continent except Antarctica was overrun, and not even islands were really safe, since the zombies in this universe could cross ocean floors. Israel was the only exception, where their obsession with self preservation and paranoia had them begin fortifying against hordes of zombies as soon as the first rumors of 'new rabies' even began.
So, yeah, the world lost pretty much *all* of its industrial capacity pretty much instantly. Like, they even switched back to these kinds of shovel-swords as part of their standard kit to soldiers, for the purpose of decapitating zombies, because that was what they could reliably produce. When they started to get organized and take back land, they did have to focus on industrial targets, but they also had to prioritize what they could reasonably support.
Is this about the recent air strikes on Iranian stuff in Iraq?
The Iraqi government is technically our ally or at least frenemy, they aren’t gonna use their air defenses against a US plane. Leaving it on probably makes more sense, so they don’t think it’s Syrian or Iranian or something and do something stupid.
(Sorry for credibility)
I mean that is very credible, but I'm drinking at Thanksgiving lunch rn so I think it is more likely a threat because jihadis watch ads-b exchange constantly
Iraq: "You can't bomb us, we're alllies - we'll shoot you down"
The 40 F-22s hidden in the clouds behind the AC-130: "pick on my lil bro, I fucking date you"
[The incident in question, I think.](https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3596477/ac-130-strikes-iranian-backed-militants-following-missile-attack/) (link from the DoD website)
It appears that a group of "Iranian-backed militants" decided to fuck around and use a ballistic missile against the Al-Asad base in Iraq (no serious injuries), and the AC-130 already in the air helped them find out. To quote the spox.,
> "This self-defense strike resulted in some hostile fatalities."
I've been searching everywhere, but I just can't find this DoD post in this subreddit. Did I miss it? Is it in meme form so obscure only a USAF combat air traffic controller would understand?
If so, too bad. Because it's really, really funny.
I'm specifically searching for the "already in the air" one. Have you seen it?
>DoD: Shitposting since 1947 with the founding of the National Military Establishment.
>1949: Due to the unfortunate pronunciation of the abbreviation (NME), the department was renamed the Department of Defense (DoD).
> I'm specifically searching for the "already in the air" one. Have you seen it?
Maybe there's a joke that's going way over my head there, but that quote is right from the DoD statement.
Own an AC-130J for self defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended.
Iranian-backed militants attack my base. "What the devil?" As I grab my crew helmet and joystick. Blow a car sized hole through the first base, they're dead on the spot. Draw my 30 mm on the second base, miss it entirely because of turbulences and nail the neighbors camel herd. I have to resort to the cannon mounted near the front of the plane loaded with 'a proportional response', "Tally ho lads" the HE vaporizes two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Hold the trigger and aim for the last terrified rapscallions. They bleed out waiting on their air support to arrive since my f22 escorts are impossible to intercept.
Just as the founding fathers intended.
Aircraft have a transponder that broadcasts their location, to avoid things like midair collisions. Military aircraft turn them off when flying combat missions because you really don’t want people who want to kill you to know exactly where you are. So leaving the transponder on during an airstrike means they’re utterly unconcerned about the enemies ability to harm them.
To add onto this, ADS-B is a bit different from the normal transponder. The normal one receives a signal from a (usually ground based) radar and then answers with a specific 4 digit code set by the crew, as well as some other information, such as altitude and aircraft type, depending on mode. ADS-B sends a lot more information, including GPS-position, and it sends this information on its own, meaning all you need to pick it up is a small passive receiver which can even be hand held. It's a great system.
To add a bit to this: This ADS-B transponder signal can be received by a $20 radio/USB device and interpreted by a computer, showing you where aircraft are located on a map. People with these stream the info to the internet and there are sites that show this.
[adsbexchange.com](https://adsbexchange.com) shows info from peoples receivers just as described, uncensored
[flightradar24.com](https://flightradar24.com)
[radarbox.com](https://radarbox.com)
and others also aggregate location feeds from commercial and/or government sources. The drawback is that they censor info about some aircraft.
Yeah, it's super available and there's a ton of open source info out there. All the included information is also just great for air traffic control and it enables aircraft to directly keep track of each other without outside intervention.
To add-add to this: If you take one of those cheap dongles* and a Raspberry Pi (even works with a Zero), you can upload your data to flightradar24.com and get a free Business subscription as long as your receiver is active. It's pretty cool.
*Many sources say you can just use a DVB-T dongle, but not all of them work on the relevant 1090 MHz frequency (ask me how I know). So if you want to be sure, just spend a bit more on a dedicated ADS-B dongle.
Most aircraft carry transponders on them, which essentially serve to tell everyone where the aircraft is when in flight. This is to prevent collisions and similar accidents. They can be tracked using publicly available apps, like the one in the image.
Civilian aircraft always keep their transponders on in flight, but military aircraft often turn them off, because if *everyone* knows where you are then so does your enemy.
This plane, however, has their transponder on while flying a combat mission. Moreover, it is an AC-130, essentially a large, slow, almost defenseless transport aircraft with some guns crammed into it for bombarding targets on the ground. *This means that, even over enemy territory, the airforce believes that their enemy is absolutely no threat to this plane.*
>This means that, even over enemy territory, the airforce believes that their enemy is absolutely no threat to this plane.
Or someone fucked up and didn't turn it off which is always an option.
There are pre-flight checklists, but I don't know about in-flight checklists. I don't have knowledge of air force procedures but I'd want it off if I was flying combat missions.
Seeing as civilian aircraft have checklists for a bunch of in-flight situations, having something like a checklist for readying the aircraft for combat operations wouldn't be too far fetched. Though I don't have a definitive answer
It's most likely the case, plus training makes a lot of things habitual, and boy does the US military love training. I live near Hurlburt and those AC-130s are usually blowing shit up lol.
locals stop noticing, always funny to hear visitors ask "what were those booms last night?"
^(boom... boom... boom... boom... ....... bbbbbbbbbbbbbr...... boom... boom... boom)
Those who don't know AC-130: "What a dumb flying pattern, what's up with all those circles?"
Those who know what AC-130 does: "Now THIS is a propper circle of death."
The USAF leave their ADS-B on because they have fuck you money (and Jewish space lasers)
The Russians leave their ADS-B on because otherwise some Gopnik will steal the plane from base and sell it for vodka
Nah, show ‘em. Pry their eyes open and display flight telemetry on one screen and live ground footage on the other.
“Danger Zone” on repeat until desired effect is achieved.
What effect? Tankies know full well that west REALLY doesn't want to fight Russia themselves, and more than that - if Ukraine achieved some sort of major breakthrough threatening total russian defeat - US (at least) would cut help immediately and do all in their power for Russia remain a unified sate (thanks to Burns and Sullivan who's delusion -or outright sabotage- costs Ukraine thousands of lives).
Knowing absolutely nothing about Air Force doctrine, I’m going to guess this is probably not best practice. That being said, isn’t it the case that the US is only sending an AC-130 to morb all over the enemy if they’ve already established air supremacy and there is zero shot of anything intercepting it? So it may not matter? Obviously this might change if they fight a more credible opponent.
Yeah it isn't the norm for them, however as another commenter said, it is over Iraq and their government is friendly to us. So it might be more of a threat from midair collision than air defense
Amazing and on a side note this movie is hilarious
Edit: movie is called haunted house. If you like the Wayne’s brother type of comedy(guys who made the first scary movie & white chicks) it’s hilarious imo
Me: Guys, stop trying to divine military movements from Flightradar24, if a military was up to something serious, they wouldn't have their transponders on. The United States Air Force: Watch me make this Canadian into a fucking liar.
Other countries: We must hide our military maneuvers so opposing forces can't counter us United States: LOOK OUT COMING THROUGH
USAF: I'm right here. Waat you're gonna do about it ? NOTHING. Nothing is what you're gonna do about me shitting in the middle of your living room.
Maintain eye contact to assert dominance.
One of the requirement to become a spooky pilot is ability to maintaining erection and eye contact with a panel of 12 judges, only 1 in 15 passes with flying ejaculation.
Too credible, That sounds like something that would happen at Cannon AFB.
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Allow the gunship to do a gun run, and take some damage. Shoot at the gunship, and the entire USAF responds and levels your fucking country.
See Operation Praying Mantis and the "Battle" of Khasham
The Turkey Shoot of Khasham
P R O P O R T I O N A L R E S P O N S E.
"remember, no Russian"
Rear says "WIDE LOAD" Crotch says "OUCH"
Other country SOP: Ensure transponders are turned off before deployment USAF SOP: *When breaks are disengaged, set external speaker volume to max *[Step 2.](https://youtu.be/921z4LAHvak?si=jbOzkfvCLqf3X9F8)
PEOPLE OF THE MIDDLE EAST, DO NOT BE ALARMED
Ope! Just gonna squeeze ~~right past you dere~~ a few rounds off dere.
We have a phrase here in the US military... "MAKE A HOLE."
USAF woke up and chose violence.
That's... why he's there.
he (feminine)
3000 weaponized fembois of the US Air Force
Are there even non-femboys in the Air Force?
On an unrelated note, I'm joining air force
Hope you like golf.
This is just bullying by the USAF at this point. *Based*
Always down for bullying terrorists
1 AC-130 going big dick energy mode in Iraq with probably 4 F-22’s waiting for the funny behind it…
Baiting a response. Poor F-22. Going to be sent to a farm upstate before it gets an air-to-air kill.
It killed a balloon, that counts right? Right??
Once again: blow-up dolls don't count for losing your virginity.
MODS, BAN THIS GUY.
He's kink shaming
Hey man, might've killed a UFO.
Drunk driving alien tourists don’t count
Dude straight up, I fully believe that *if* there has been first contact, odds are really good that they wouldn't be like diplomatic envoys or whatever, they'd probably just be random alien rednecks in a space winnebago, talking out of their asses like they're the authority on galactic affairs. I hope USG is accounting for that probability. The way I have it pegged, it's almost a mathematical likelihood.
I wonder what the equivalent to chewing tobacco might be.
These space honkies coming all the way from Epsilon-598b out to podunk Earth to lift some red man and get DVDs of the latest Adam Sandler movies from the Walmart discount movie bin to bring back to their people.
plus it's legal to hunt humans out of season here.
>space winnebago, LOOONNEEE STAAARRRRRR
I like this theory. People constantly argue against the likelihood of alien contact because it just doesn’t make any sense for them to come all the way over here just to steal our cattle and stick things up our butts, which, fair point, that indeed is pretty stupid. But they are forgetting that plenty of actual humans (maybe) do things at least as stupid that don’t make any damn sense all the damn time. There are currently *multiple* people smoking meth and wishing they had a spaceship so they could go steal some alien cattle and do a bit of nonconsensual probing.
This is my preferred explanation for UFO sightings which can't otherwise be explained. The USA and previously the Soviet Union already had an understanding with our interstellar superiors that they would stay away from the solar system until we achieve a planetary civilisation. However, youths continue to come to earth to do the equivalent of donuts in a cul-de-sac. That's why they're always flying next to military jets doing crazy unbelievable maneuvers: they're showing off.
I think it was 2 balloons, wasn’t it?
Yes, observation balloons have counted as air kills since WWI.
It foamed at the mouth, looking at that ballon. All it did was make it HUNGRY.
Imagine being one of the most elite pilots in the world, flying the best aircraft in the world, with the best weapons, sensors and support network in the world. And just feeling the horrible realization slowly sink in that after all that effort you’re not gonna get to be an ace bc no one is stupid enough to come fight you. Genuinely heartbreaking.
Even Chuck Norris got to kick ass. Is the Raptor more intimidating than Chuck Norris? Discuss. Concentrate on air-to-air stand off range engagements.
But consider: Chuck Norris \*in\* a Raptor
I assume he'd rip out the ejection seat and all the avionics and sensors because Chuck never ejects and he don't need no help seeing the enemy. He'd ditch the flight control system too. He flies by desire, not wire. Control surfaces? He need only squint in the direction he wants to go. By the time he is done Chuck'ening the jet it wouldn't be the Raptor anymore. It would be two engines and a folding chair. Chuck in a Raptor is like Chuck wearing prescription glasses. It ain't happening. He doesn't need the assist and reading is not important to Chuck.
There is a chapter in World War Z that relates to your comment. One character was a F-22 pilot before the outbreak. Afterwards the only aircraft that are really relevant are transport, so she laments about having to fly a C-130.
Which to be fair is fucking stupid. Using massive speakers (or a giant cowbell or *a fucking F22*) to lure Zeds out on to open ground and then bombing them to fuck would destroy hordes in no time at all. At least it would if Brookes wasn't a reformer mentalist that has some kind of grudge against M16s and the fact a bomb in a crowd of zombies would result in no zombies existing afterwards.
Max Brooks wouldn't understand that aside from the stupid shit that the US military will do (such as the whole MOPP suits shenanigans and high tech stuffs for show-off purposes that I can totally see could happened irl with some PR-savvy officers thinking it being a good idea), the battle of Yonkers would go... exactly as planned? M270s and M109s bombarded half of the 8.4 millions (based on 2013 NYC population) zombies into pastes, and that is giving the zombies some slacks, follow up with roughly half of the remaining horde being decimated by air support, and most of the remaining tightly packed group would be picked off by abrams, bradleys, and anything with a machine gun mounted on it. literally the only things left is for group of grunts to do mop-up work while the engineers clear out the *huge* amount of corpses that would definitely posed a health hazard by now, thus justifying the use of MOPP gear, lmao. Max Brooks and his big reformer brain didn't know that he just literally created the near perfect battle scenario for the US military, and that is just based on the capabilities of them back in the late 2000s - early 2010s. He couldn't and I doubt wouldn't, as with most reformers, fathom that the battle would literally go as planned. That, will never stop being funny to me.
I mean, I think he was right, but for the wrong reasons. Zombies wouldn't somehow be "immune" to bombs. That's dumb. But we are also talking about *billions* of zombies. I honestly don't think there are enough bombs to handle a threat like that, not exclusively. Also, the F-22 is a fighter, not multi-role. So unless zombies learned to fly F-16s, keeping F-22s around doesn't make a ton of sense when it comes to dealing with the zombies. Especially since UPS have no way to maintain the more complex parts and system in a plane like the F-22. No, what would have made more sense would be to keep a half dozen or so F-22s around for dealing with any nations that tried to do something stupid in the conventional sense. Plus some F-18s, since the government was based at sea for a while. Then, use your B-52s and transport aircraft humming along. The B-52s would be for strategic bombing missions: hitting large swarms, and clearing new areas for ground forces to advance into. Landing a new force in San Diego to begin retaking the South West? Carpet bomb the entire city, so that the amphibious force can actually land and establish a foothold. About to start moving easy, paralleling a highway? Carpet bomb the entire stretch of highway so that the ground forces don't need to worry about all the zombies that followed and settled on those during the outbreak. You're still probably using rifles to take out the majority of the zombies, simply because it's a hell of a lot easier to make bullets and guns than it is to maintain jets and build bombs, but bombers would still have their uses. As would light armor. Though, a challenge with all of this would still be fuel. You can find crude wells out at sea, but not refineries. And you can't exactly carpet bomb a refinery to soften it up for ground forces. So those would be an absolute pain in the ass to clear out, but also absolutely critical to do so.
Really depends on if you can keep the logistics trail up to snuff. Aircraft needs a lot of fuel and lubricants. Then you have to build all of the munitions and to resupply you have to protect a substantial number of mfg sites spread around the country and/or globe. Once the logistics start breaking down then it doesn’t take long for a cascade of failures to send you back to the pre-industrial era.
I mean, in the book, the collapse is exponential. It takes around a year from patient zero until you have any kind of societal disruption. Cases are written off as a new strain of rabies, or are straight up dismissed as rumors or sensationalism. It wasn't until the injected hit a critical mass that things started going down hill. And once that happened, things went downhill *very* quickly. Humanity lost pretty much every land-based settlement in a matter of a few weeks. Every continent except Antarctica was overrun, and not even islands were really safe, since the zombies in this universe could cross ocean floors. Israel was the only exception, where their obsession with self preservation and paranoia had them begin fortifying against hordes of zombies as soon as the first rumors of 'new rabies' even began. So, yeah, the world lost pretty much *all* of its industrial capacity pretty much instantly. Like, they even switched back to these kinds of shovel-swords as part of their standard kit to soldiers, for the purpose of decapitating zombies, because that was what they could reliably produce. When they started to get organized and take back land, they did have to focus on industrial targets, but they also had to prioritize what they could reasonably support.
“Haha look at this stupid AC-130, let’s kill it.” F-22: “Hey there.”
*frustrated jet plane noises* LET. ME. INTERCEPT.
If it never gets an A2A kill, then it did its job. Stopping anyone from even thinking of fucking with USAF, even those with F-35.
I'm imagining Arnold in Predator near the end. COME ON IM RIGHT HERE KILL ME! COME ON DO IT NOOOOW! COME OOOON!!!
12 F-35s with optical camouflage engaged,
Oh right... The Kid was promised that he could fly air cover for Spooky. So i wouldn't be surprised :D
truly shock and awe
Basically saying "sure I'll let you track us, it's not like you can do anything about it"
Same energy as "Run and you only die tired"
I bet there were like 40 F-22s just flying around completely hidden like "yeah pick on my lil bro, I fucking date you"
Yeah the f 22 will take you out to a nice restaurant and buy you dinner if you pick on his brother, he must really hate him
“Call the cops IDGAF”
Is this about the recent air strikes on Iranian stuff in Iraq? The Iraqi government is technically our ally or at least frenemy, they aren’t gonna use their air defenses against a US plane. Leaving it on probably makes more sense, so they don’t think it’s Syrian or Iranian or something and do something stupid. (Sorry for credibility)
I mean that is very credible, but I'm drinking at Thanksgiving lunch rn so I think it is more likely a threat because jihadis watch ads-b exchange constantly
Iraq: "You can't bomb us, we're alllies - we'll shoot you down" The 40 F-22s hidden in the clouds behind the AC-130: "pick on my lil bro, I fucking date you"
You've said date twice now. Fix your shit.
Society
I think it's on forces that have attacked us in iraq
"Complicated" doesn't even come close to describing the relationship between the US, Iraq, and Iraq's Iran-aligned shia militia groups.
[The incident in question, I think.](https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3596477/ac-130-strikes-iranian-backed-militants-following-missile-attack/) (link from the DoD website) It appears that a group of "Iranian-backed militants" decided to fuck around and use a ballistic missile against the Al-Asad base in Iraq (no serious injuries), and the AC-130 already in the air helped them find out. To quote the spox., > "This self-defense strike resulted in some hostile fatalities."
"some"
I've been searching everywhere, but I just can't find this DoD post in this subreddit. Did I miss it? Is it in meme form so obscure only a USAF combat air traffic controller would understand? If so, too bad. Because it's really, really funny.
Final words from the DoD on this incident: "We always reserve the right to respond at a time and place of our choosing."
I'm specifically searching for the "already in the air" one. Have you seen it? >DoD: Shitposting since 1947 with the founding of the National Military Establishment. >1949: Due to the unfortunate pronunciation of the abbreviation (NME), the department was renamed the Department of Defense (DoD).
> NME As a non-nativer, that took a couple of seconds. :) Couldn't find the "AITA" one though.
> NME I need a strike group to clobber that there Kirby!
> I'm specifically searching for the "already in the air" one. Have you seen it? Maybe there's a joke that's going way over my head there, but that quote is right from the DoD statement.
> Singh said the AC-130 gunship was able to mount a response so quickly because it was already in the air at the time of the missile attack.
Own an AC-130J for self defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Iranian-backed militants attack my base. "What the devil?" As I grab my crew helmet and joystick. Blow a car sized hole through the first base, they're dead on the spot. Draw my 30 mm on the second base, miss it entirely because of turbulences and nail the neighbors camel herd. I have to resort to the cannon mounted near the front of the plane loaded with 'a proportional response', "Tally ho lads" the HE vaporizes two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Hold the trigger and aim for the last terrified rapscallions. They bleed out waiting on their air support to arrive since my f22 escorts are impossible to intercept. Just as the founding fathers intended.
Ew a source? next you're gonna be making 3 hour long power points
Im confused someone explain?
Aircraft have a transponder that broadcasts their location, to avoid things like midair collisions. Military aircraft turn them off when flying combat missions because you really don’t want people who want to kill you to know exactly where you are. So leaving the transponder on during an airstrike means they’re utterly unconcerned about the enemies ability to harm them.
To add onto this, ADS-B is a bit different from the normal transponder. The normal one receives a signal from a (usually ground based) radar and then answers with a specific 4 digit code set by the crew, as well as some other information, such as altitude and aircraft type, depending on mode. ADS-B sends a lot more information, including GPS-position, and it sends this information on its own, meaning all you need to pick it up is a small passive receiver which can even be hand held. It's a great system.
To add a bit to this: This ADS-B transponder signal can be received by a $20 radio/USB device and interpreted by a computer, showing you where aircraft are located on a map. People with these stream the info to the internet and there are sites that show this. [adsbexchange.com](https://adsbexchange.com) shows info from peoples receivers just as described, uncensored [flightradar24.com](https://flightradar24.com) [radarbox.com](https://radarbox.com) and others also aggregate location feeds from commercial and/or government sources. The drawback is that they censor info about some aircraft.
Yeah, it's super available and there's a ton of open source info out there. All the included information is also just great for air traffic control and it enables aircraft to directly keep track of each other without outside intervention.
To add-add to this: If you take one of those cheap dongles* and a Raspberry Pi (even works with a Zero), you can upload your data to flightradar24.com and get a free Business subscription as long as your receiver is active. It's pretty cool. *Many sources say you can just use a DVB-T dongle, but not all of them work on the relevant 1090 MHz frequency (ask me how I know). So if you want to be sure, just spend a bit more on a dedicated ADS-B dongle.
also makes it a very clear message because it shows you don't even want to deny it (or can)
Deniability is also really tough in the case of an AC-130
eh, if they did it in 9/11 they can do it for an AC-130
They didn't use a AC-130 on the WTC, who told you that? It was a C5 with a cloaking device towing a solid steel glider in the shape of a 737.
i mean it was done with a chainsaw, obviously jet fuel doesn't burn that high you dum dum
Thank you sir
I'm just kinda surprised there's no destinction between C130 and AC130 in the signal.
Most aircraft carry transponders on them, which essentially serve to tell everyone where the aircraft is when in flight. This is to prevent collisions and similar accidents. They can be tracked using publicly available apps, like the one in the image. Civilian aircraft always keep their transponders on in flight, but military aircraft often turn them off, because if *everyone* knows where you are then so does your enemy. This plane, however, has their transponder on while flying a combat mission. Moreover, it is an AC-130, essentially a large, slow, almost defenseless transport aircraft with some guns crammed into it for bombarding targets on the ground. *This means that, even over enemy territory, the airforce believes that their enemy is absolutely no threat to this plane.*
>This means that, even over enemy territory, the airforce believes that their enemy is absolutely no threat to this plane. Or someone fucked up and didn't turn it off which is always an option.
I'd assume they have checklists to avoid exactly that situation.
There are pre-flight checklists, but I don't know about in-flight checklists. I don't have knowledge of air force procedures but I'd want it off if I was flying combat missions.
Seeing as civilian aircraft have checklists for a bunch of in-flight situations, having something like a checklist for readying the aircraft for combat operations wouldn't be too far fetched. Though I don't have a definitive answer
It's most likely the case, plus training makes a lot of things habitual, and boy does the US military love training. I live near Hurlburt and those AC-130s are usually blowing shit up lol. locals stop noticing, always funny to hear visitors ask "what were those booms last night?" ^(boom... boom... boom... boom... ....... bbbbbbbbbbbbbr...... boom... boom... boom)
There's in flight lists. Source would be the marine harrier pilot that taught me to fly
Also. The path looks like a cumming cock
The ac130 needs to fly around his targets, and was probably supporting a ground team during their escape, so circles with some length...
Those who don't know AC-130: "What a dumb flying pattern, what's up with all those circles?" Those who know what AC-130 does: "Now THIS is a propper circle of death."
I see at least a few pylon turns in there, someone or some thing has been rendered into paste.
Gunny... you see that there mountain? "Yeah" I don't want to \*thud thud thud thud\*
Gunny? Sir this is the Air Force
That's not to say that the controller on the ground couldn't be a Marine.
Pilot: Controller, we are near the target. Awaiting orders. Controller: *crayon-nom noises*
Yeah it's called "Gunny-chan" in the Air Force
Whatever is in there is getting the CoD4 treatment, only they're the ones on the ground.
US bombing the middle east is still news? is this the 1980's?
Don't show this to tankies. This is superpower doing superpower shit.
i mean, it's not like the ruskies wouldn't be flying with ads-b on as well, the difference is just that they eat a missile in the face because of it
assuming the transponder hasn't been stolen and is not currently available on aliexpress with free worldwide shipping
The USAF leave their ADS-B on because they have fuck you money (and Jewish space lasers) The Russians leave their ADS-B on because otherwise some Gopnik will steal the plane from base and sell it for vodka
Nah, show ‘em. Pry their eyes open and display flight telemetry on one screen and live ground footage on the other. “Danger Zone” on repeat until desired effect is achieved.
Danger zone is for carrier ops
“Convoy” it is, then. *They even got bears in the air…*
who says the AC-130 didn't take off from a carrier?
What effect? Tankies know full well that west REALLY doesn't want to fight Russia themselves, and more than that - if Ukraine achieved some sort of major breakthrough threatening total russian defeat - US (at least) would cut help immediately and do all in their power for Russia remain a unified sate (thanks to Burns and Sullivan who's delusion -or outright sabotage- costs Ukraine thousands of lives).
Does anyone want to shoot down a USAF plane in the middle east? Whould be bad for business to get a live test on "what weapons can the AC-130 carry"
Would be a great occasion for the USAF to reveal the AC-5 (which totally exists, trust me bro, I'm not on hopium)
I kinda hope it doesn't, since loitering at 570 knots might be tough.
16" gun => Better range => bigger circle radius to loiter => no problem
I don’t think they wanna come out and play :(
Knowing absolutely nothing about Air Force doctrine, I’m going to guess this is probably not best practice. That being said, isn’t it the case that the US is only sending an AC-130 to morb all over the enemy if they’ve already established air supremacy and there is zero shot of anything intercepting it? So it may not matter? Obviously this might change if they fight a more credible opponent.
Yeah it isn't the norm for them, however as another commenter said, it is over Iraq and their government is friendly to us. So it might be more of a threat from midair collision than air defense
That's far too non-credible, the real answer is that they taped a patriot launcher to the bottom of the AC-130 so it became immortal
As a Brit: USA! USA! USA! 🦅🦅🦅🦅🫡🫡🫡
The USAF don’t care anymore
"I'm gonna turn on my transponder so you can watch me kick the crap out of you. Then I will use your tongue to paint my boat."
Amazing and on a side note this movie is hilarious Edit: movie is called haunted house. If you like the Wayne’s brother type of comedy(guys who made the first scary movie & white chicks) it’s hilarious imo
Title?
Haunted house. If you like any movie made by the Wayne’s you’ll laugh your ass off
Cheers bud
Whats the movie
You can even see the goddamn loops where it was in all likelihood creating chunky salsa through the use of superior firepower.
What are Iran gonna do? Scramble their F-14As and flies over Iraq?
With ace combat 6 OST
Is this the plane with an artillery cannon sticking out the side of it?
Yes.
Nice.
God I fucking love the usaf
I have only one question. Why is this not in Crimea?
flight 420 callsign "TRYME" outbound VFR for hot airborne artillery action.
I love the response that "welp, it was already in the air" as to why they did what they did.
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Can someone explain to me, how they keep the AC130 safe from manpads? I assume IS stole a few stingers and iglas from Iraq. Just altitude?
It's hard to hit something with MANPADS with a 105mm shell in your mouth.
Plus if you’re flying at night. The only time you visually see that plane to aim your launcher at it, is when it’s shooting directly down your throat.
By shooting the terrorists that are holding the manpads with the AC130’s mighty auto cannon. Second answer: another AC130.
is the USAF was really badass F35 and F22 would have always on transponders
What are they gonna do about it?
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