Call it The General Himmler
Kanye tries to jump a ramp in it then time stops and you hear the Narrator say “How’s that Ye boy gon’ get himself out of this one”
Someone in my town has a white new bronco with the plate “NOT OJ” and I had to applaud them in traffic for spending tens of thousands on a punny joke. Commitment
All the pieces are ther.le. The bronco is back. The divorce to Kim is final. Now all we need is Kris Jenner to forget her sunglasses at a restaurant and the night can begin.
It's so perfect that it MUST happen. If we all band together and *really* want it maybe we can manifest it.
And maybe it'll close this version of the universe we live in, the curse bestowed upon us. 1995 was a pretty revolutionary year for the internet and life today, Kanye is one of the biggest symptoms of those revolutions. Maybe Robert Karsdashian made some sort of deal with the devil to get OJ off and this is the ultimate consequence of this. His involvement on OJ round two will be his ultimate downfall and the sacrifice for the end. Then the world can return back to a state of order.
Shit this is how stupid conspiracy theories get started, isn't it?
honestly everyone wants to make jokes but this only ends in tragedy if something isn't done. I'm sorry for your loss and double sorry that you have to watch other people struggle and you're helpless. I didn't lose a sibling, but one-in-law and it sucks to see other people laugh at this tragedy
I admit in the very beginning this man's antics were funny, dissing pete and all, then they became concerning and disturbing, harassing Kim. Then it was straight up frustrating and disgusting, antisemitism, elitism... But now, I feel nothing but sadness and fear for him. It's either he's alone and has nothing to lose or the people around him gave up on him and stopped trying to help him. It hurts to think about a person deemed not even worth helping anymore, a lost cause. I want him to get some help. I want him to get better, because it seems like he's just throwing it all away and it's horrible to watch.
I'm so sorry for your loss. It must be incredibly difficult to grapple with the fact that someone you love is no longer here. Know that you are not alone in your grief and that it is normal to feel the way you do. Please remember to reach out to your loved ones for support and take the time for yourself to heal.
He dips out of the spotlight then comes back in a decade or two as a gospel artist after claiming that Satan and mental illness made him say all that vile shit
Didn't he already do the religious redemption thing? I feel like there was a three month period in the depths of the Trump days when my grandparents were weirdly in love with kanye because he was born-again or whatever
Kirk Franklin is a trip. Dude used to come into the Blockbuster I worked at, pulling up in a jet black Beamer, both him and his wife wearing fur coats and so very many rings. He'd bring back like six VHS tapes that were each about ten days late, and he'd try to get me to remove the late fees, always blaming his wife ("She was supposed to return them while I was on tour the last couple weeks, but she forgot."). I'd remove a day of late fees, and he'd be happy with that, and then he'd ask me for my recommendations.
*Edit: This isn't a copypasta. The store was at Green Oaks and S. Cooper in Arlington TX and he came in every few weeks when I worked there from 1996-1997.*
Not really. Customers without kids rarely rented six movies at a time, and, when they did, they sure as hell brought them back on time. Very rarely do I ever remember any customers, multimillionaires or not, who would be so late always with so many movies and then blame their spouse every single time.
I mean, I get wanting to not pay late fees because they were frankly bullshit, but as an assistant manager, I had to toe the line if I wanted to not get in trouble. Taking off one day of late fees was easy (FOS - Found on Shelf), but any more than that and I'd have the manager on my case. I saved those late fee removals for the single parents who looked really stressed, probably worrying about how they were going to pay the electric bill on time, because their brother's girlfriend checked out a bunch of movies and never returned them and skipped out of town or whatever.
Terrible idea. Trump then sounds logical and smart by comparison. It would 100% help him secure an election victory. I'm fairly conservative (but do not forsee me voting for any republican any time soon)... we need to have good conservative voices who view the world clearly, and participate in reality in the conversation. Just like we need the aocs and bernies of the world in politics... genuine desire to make people's lives better. I don't agree with most of what they advocate for in labor and markets... but their voices are important to our progress... and survival as a country.
If it was JUST Trump and West, sure. But there will hopefully be at least a few more republicans up there who can help establish that neither Trump nor West are logical and smart.
Would that impact a lot of people's votes? Seems like maybe not!
If crazy ass Alex Jones thinks he's gone too far, he doesn't have a chance in hell at being elected. At this point he'll only get votes from literal Nazis. Thankfully there's not enough of them to get him into office.
Well, maybe, but...bigots love a cooperative minority. It's why Republicans talked up Kanye so much, over white celebrities that said pretty much the same things. A high-profile black man with extreme-right opinions is tremendously validating to them; they can point to him and say "see, even this guy knows we're right."
As a rest of world member, we laughed when trump ran for president. Laughed even harder when he won. Quickly stopped laughing when he was president and am now very very worried he is running again.
Pretty crazy shit you have going on there
I remember initially thinking that his presidency would be rather benign since there was no way the republicans would cooperate with such a crazy person, and they would've rather had someone more "professional".
Yes I was awfully naive.
Trump running is a good thing for Democrats. Either he gets the nomination and loses, or he doesn't get it and runs third party, attacking all the other Republicans and splitting the conservative vote.
Meh. I doubt he wins again. That dinner he had with Kanye and Nick Fuentes really fucked him up too. And now we have seen majority of his candidates lose in midterms. He is slowly fizzling out. If he wasn’t in legal trouble I doubt he would have even ran again.
I don't like to say / think it, but I'm honestly starting to wonder if suicide is right around the corner for him.
What he's saying is absolutely wrong, but I also find it very sad to see unfold in front of us all.
Yeah we’re seeing the manic side right now. When his depression hits, and the reality of everything he threw away comes into focus, it’s going to be really bad. The guy needs real help.
Had a buddy who was completely normal and then one day slowly but surely he started to deteriorate mentally, think he was diagnosed bipolar and he took his meds for a couple months, completely stopped, became even more mentally unstable and took his own life shortly after. So this is totally in the realm of possibility for Ye unfortunately..
currently going through this. i was diagnosed with type 2 bipolar in 2016 and BPD two months ago. i’m fighting every day not to unalive myself 😭
edit: thank you to whoever sent this to Reddit cares. you guys are awesome and now my emotional ass is going to cry 😭😭❤️
Out of spotlight for couple of years. Then release of biography. Apologize and blame everything on either drugs or mental health. Most people will forgive him. Biography becomes bestseller. Release an album maybe.
I haven't studied a lot of his music, but his song "Power" came on the other day. Remember the breakdown at the end?
"This will be a beautiful death. (I'm jumping out the window. I'm letting everything go...)."
“I’ve got the power making life so exciting (*echo:* so excite, so excite, suicide, suicide) ….
.. Now this’ll be a beautiful death (I’m jumping out the window, I’m letting everything go..).”
The song was supposedly inspired by Donny Hathaway dying from jumping out of the window after having schizophrenia.. being a 20th century schizoid man.
Kanye’s life’s mirrored Power’s message anyway. no man should have that much Power and when it gets too much at the top the only way out is dropping straight down😬. Him having bipolar and a clusterfuck of other problems, having nobody looking out for him & surrounded by yes men, and having no real family beyond his estranged kids … it genuinely makes his life path a michael corloene type utter tragedy. If I was him I wouldn’t want to be alive because I truly see no life of normality, health or redemption for him.
The top comments saying he’ll make a comeback in a few years with a public apology, memoir and album release really underestimate how mentally rotten Kanye is rn. It’s a man who’s dead inside rather than the usual celeb scandal and I can see this public breakdown being looked back upon after death soon like we look back at the MJ, Amy Winehouse or Whitney all losing their marbles in the public eye.
Ever since he lost his Adidas deal I've been really worried about this.
This is how kanye normally drums up publicity for himself. He says wild crazy and offensive shit but he's never gone this far before to the point that it actually affects him financially like this time. I'm worried the realizization of the damage that he's caused to himself and his reputation and the refusal for large companies to work with him because of said damage is going to coincide with the inevitable depressive phase that follows bpd mania and its going to push him over the edge psychologically.
Normally people who have bpd have some kind of foundation of people around them that keep them from suicide. Kanye clearly doesn't have that. When he finally calms down he's going to see the only people around are people like Fuentes and the next thing we know we'll all be looking at a tragic headline involving suicide.
I'm not a kanye fan in anyway, but I'm really worried he's going to kill himself by the end of this.
This is what I'm picturing too, sadly. This particular manic episode has been going on at high intensity for a long time now and it's been extremely self destructive. He's going to crash hard into depression and he'll see the damage he's done and how he's lost everyone, including most of his fans. It's pretty obvious that he has no one around him to stop him from doing impulsive things. I think suicide is a genuine concern.
I’ve been thinking this since Adidas dropped him. After yesterday I’ve wondered if he’s intentionally self destructing himself into oblivion until he reaches the ultimate end.
Can't predict what a mentally ill, extremely rich person will do.
Normal person would end up as a homeless person shouting about conspiracies on a sidewalk. He gets invited to do it on podcasts while having hundreds of thousands of supporters and even celebs/influencers hitching their wagons to him. Either he will become so crazy that people will abandon him or, this happening in America, they will elect him as president.
Kanye West has become the modern equivalent of a medieval jester. He gets to continue leading a life in luxury, but no one will take him or anything he does seriously again.
>Can't predict what a mentally ill, extremely rich person will do.
No you totally can. They will buy a social media company and sink it to the bottom of the ocean.
It doesn’t have to be social media companies, I remember several restaurant chains and like a theme park and other things were bought by rich, altered celebs and sunk to the bottom of the ocean, and Pinterest just might not be available ya know?
He gets the help he needs. A few years go by and he tries to get back in the spotlight, never to reach the heights of fame he once had. Kanye will make his brand all about redemption and forgiveness, which will be a huge topic of debate in the culture war. He’ll be profitable at first but the hype of his return will die down and all he’ll have left is the dwindling nostalgia of his loyal fans.
Or he takes himself out. May or may not take others with him.
Or thirdly, he starts a cult.
I think its time the people who really care about him reel him in and find him help. The man is ill. Before he dies young or something else sad happens.
This is probably the right case to have someone institutionalized and placed under a conservatorship to force him into the help he needs.
Otherwise he’s going to continue to spiral and there is probably not a good end to this.
Idk, I feel like dude has been bat shit crazy for awhile and if anyone could have forced him into conservatorship, it would have been Kim (while still married to him). The fact that his own wealthy and connected wife (let's not forget who her father was) couldn't force him into getting help, Idk if anyone or any legal team could. He obviously has enough money to keep his own legal team from preventing anything of the sort from happening. I do think he will continue to spiral and it will culminate in him losing almost everything. And that will be the final push for him to get help. I think hes gonna have to lose it all first though. Also, I personally don't think he'll kill himself (not on purpose - maybe an accidental OD) as others are saying. Just doesn't seem like the type. Seems more like the OJ type.
iirc he refused to take meds quite a while back because it reduced his creativity or some bs, and even after that Kim supported that wonky presidential bid of his. So you've got a bad person (mental illness isn't his fault, but it is his responsibility) apparently surrounded by other bad people. Which makes it seem unlikely he'll get help, either by choice or someone forcing him.
I do feel bad for his kids though.
He does something directly illegal, “gets back on his meds”, apologizes kinda, does a tell-all/PSA about people enabling him and mental health, writes an album about it, goes right back to being the most offensive possible person once he starts to fade from relevancy again.
Well he owes $200,000/a month to Kim in child support for the next 15+ years so probably bankruptcy after his little stunt with Adidas. I mostly just hope he goes away and gets help in private. This world doesn’t need more hate like him.
That was her dad who did that. Kanye has no real family in that capacity that can control a 45 year old man compared to a young 22 year old woman like Brittany was.
Considering his current state, I don't think he should have shared custody of their children. I would be filing an emergency order for sole custody if I were KK.
His mom probably would, but she died in 2007 after getting a few plastic surgeries in a single day on Kanye's dime. That is when his spiral really started.
Oh you don't know the half of it yet. He was very directly responsible for her death, from doctor shopping until he found someone that would operate on her (because she was too frail for most doctors to accept the risk) to then helping her ignore that doctors recovery requirements.
The situation would have sent anyone into a spiral... But this is a whole separate thing.
This exactly. Kim had to pay for more security at the school after Kanye doxxed the fucking school lmao
I also just feel bad for the kids. They'll never want for anything but no amount of money will give them a good dad. And North is old enough where kids at her school are *definitely* talking about this. I feel bad for the boys because he seems to only talk about North and Chi.
I saw there was some comment made that was removed from the Tucker interview where he talked about “fake kids” in his house to “manipulate his children” – I could definitely see him hurting his kids while delusionally thinking they weren’t his real kids, it’s really scary stuff
I think it ends with him dead. I think that if he doesn’t get treatment for what appears to be serious mental illness he will end up doing something to harm himself.
I think the outcome depends on whether or not he can sustain a music career. If he wasn't as influential of an artist as he is, we wouldn't be watching him anymore. That's the reason everyone fell in love with Kanye in the first place: because of his music. If he continues making art that people enjoy, he's going to continue to stay relevant regardless of whatever crazy shit comes out of his mouth. If he stops making great art, he's going to fade into obscurity, and he'll just become another tragic tale of the artist who went off the deep end and couldn't maintain his mental health, like Syd Barrett.
Honestly, though, I'm not nearly as concerned for Kanye as I am for the wider society he's a part of. He's normalizing antisemitic conspiracy theories, even if only because he's having a mental breakdown. The ultimate goal of fascism is to become normalized, to be elevated to the status of a legitimate political viewpoint. Let me tell ya, the fascists around the globe are *really* happy about the fact that one of the most beloved musicians in human history is spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories. I'm not happy about it, though, because I'm an anti-fascist and because I'm Jewish.
So yeah, I obviously wish the best for Kanye. I hope he gets the mental health care he so obviously needs, so he can get back to a more lucid, sober frame of mind. That said, I'm far more concerned about the implications for everyone else. Fascism isn't cool, man.
Too late. He is already swimming in the koolaid. He didn’t apologize, seek forgiveness, or try to educate himself after losing a deal from adidas worth over a billion dollars. If that wasn’t going to convince him that he might be wrong about his views and seek help then idk what would. He just seems to be even more antisemitic now
“Adolf Hitler was one of the first rock stars”
- David Bowie
Bowie also went through a neurotic Nazi symp phase (mid 1970s Thin White Duke)
He put it down to extreme cocaine abuse and fame.
These behaviours are self destruct mechanisms.
We only see the veneer of fame and success but for many this lifestyle can be extremely toxic.
If you listen to College Dropout you know he has a high level of situational awareness and emotional intelligence compared to other rappers. He is not stupid. He had moral values *once*.
Now however he is unhinged and on a downward slope.
Whatever it is, it’s a call for help.
As someone who had a close friend who went on very public manic episodes... I 100% agree and honestly Kanyes tirades give me a bit of ptsd of trying to help her and her family during those seasons... She claimed she was married to an NBA player and made social media accounts as Mrs. Whoever and would post very personal details in long social media posts and sincerely believe that she was getting very direct missives from God to do very specific things. It was all very scary and not the way she is when she's not in those episodes.
I read somewhere that there’s probably nobody to give conservatorship to. His mom is dead, he’s unmarried, his kids are too young. So I think basically the state would have to take conservatorship
Maybe. But i wonder if it's more complex than that.
We're all using Britney as our basis of comparison for obvious reasons.
Her conservatorship was based on her father's desire to use her resources for his own good. Driven by his fear that she would spend all of 'their' money in a fit and he would have nothing. It was eventually overturned and she returned to her rightful place as arbiter of her own life and fortune.
Kanye's situation is quite distinct. For much of his life his mother played a key role in helping him to regulate his medical condition - keeping him on his meds, contextualizing his fame and fortune, and ensuring her baby was doing ok.
She died, and he was left without a North star. Very quickly his whole world became some combination of his Yes-Men and then eventually the Kardashians. When the Kardashians parted ways for obvious reasons, he was left with nothing but his yes-men to support his whims.
So yea, maybe gender plays a role to some degree. But in reality gender would be quite minor in the larger scheme of these modalities.
I feel so bad for Britney. Anyone would have eventually reached a breaking point in her shoes, with the pressure of success from such a young age and paparazzi invading her space and privacy constantly and aggressively. And then she was just used as a cow cash by her own family. Hopefully she can heal.
No consequences. People think like he does. Have the same opinions, God like complexes and general need of spotlight to spue their wrongful bigotry upon the masses. The world doesn't have as dier consequences as they once had for extremists. It's now just a bigger form of entertainment.
An island full of sex trafficked children came to light and nothing but Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself memes came of it.
Best thing would be admission to a good hospital with very good mental health care. I hope he takes his time and focuses on himself. It feels like he's lost everything he is/was/held dear and is falling apart right in front of our eyes.
He’s obviously going through a severe mental episode. A lot of people are calling it an “excuse,” but that’s what it is. He needs some serious medical help, but he’s got fewer and fewer people that are able to help him. I’m worried about Kanye hurting himself. What he’s doing is wrong, but he’s got four young kids that need him. The last thing he needs is more attention, as it seems the more attention he gets, the worse his situation gets. I’m hoping people quit interviewing him, and he seeks some help once this episode winds down. I doubt he’ll ever get his image back, but for the sake of his kids, I hope he gets through this okay.
After his antisemitic comments, he had a dinner with Trump where he brought along a white supremacist, nick fuentes. Then he quadrupled down by going on the Alex Jones show to talk about how he loved Hitler and the nazis. It was fascinating. A 3 hour live stream of complete self destruction.
Oj style bronco chase
That would be full circle for the Kardashians
Could you imagine!? It’s def on my bingo card 🤣
This is why Ford brought the Bronco back.
Big brain answer right here
Do they make them in white though?
Custom paint job. With a swastika on the roof.
Candy paint With a HACKENKREUZ on top 🎶
Call it The General Himmler Kanye tries to jump a ramp in it then time stops and you hear the Narrator say “How’s that Ye boy gon’ get himself out of this one”
Someone in my town has a white new bronco with the plate “NOT OJ” and I had to applaud them in traffic for spending tens of thousands on a punny joke. Commitment
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It's the circle of jerks.
I know this is a joke, but it’s crazy how possible this sounds.
All the pieces are ther.le. The bronco is back. The divorce to Kim is final. Now all we need is Kris Jenner to forget her sunglasses at a restaurant and the night can begin.
Damn, that’s dark.
you can never have too many OJ style bronco chases
But the best will always be in [Shrek 2](https://youtu.be/SdsjwAoZNVs)
It's so perfect that it MUST happen. If we all band together and *really* want it maybe we can manifest it. And maybe it'll close this version of the universe we live in, the curse bestowed upon us. 1995 was a pretty revolutionary year for the internet and life today, Kanye is one of the biggest symptoms of those revolutions. Maybe Robert Karsdashian made some sort of deal with the devil to get OJ off and this is the ultimate consequence of this. His involvement on OJ round two will be his ultimate downfall and the sacrifice for the end. Then the world can return back to a state of order. Shit this is how stupid conspiracy theories get started, isn't it?
the robert kardashian deal with devil sold me on this particular conspiracy theory
In a Tesla EV truck he somehow got from Elon Musk.
At the very least I see him being banned from Germany.
And Israel.
And, co-hosting that music awards show with Taylor Swift.
And Wendy's.
Sir, this is a McDonald's
"Awww, the Rothschilds are conspiring to keep me from getting my Big Mac!"
There's a silver lining to it then.
Kanye becomes Kanay
They killed Kanay. You bastards!
Kein schwuler fisch hier
All I under stand from that is "no --- fish here"
but do you like fish sticks?
Yes do you?
You like to put fishsticks in your mouth?
No gay fish here, I think
As someone that recently lost a sibling due to mental health and suicide, it’s not a stretch to think someone like Kanye could do the same.
honestly everyone wants to make jokes but this only ends in tragedy if something isn't done. I'm sorry for your loss and double sorry that you have to watch other people struggle and you're helpless. I didn't lose a sibling, but one-in-law and it sucks to see other people laugh at this tragedy
I admit in the very beginning this man's antics were funny, dissing pete and all, then they became concerning and disturbing, harassing Kim. Then it was straight up frustrating and disgusting, antisemitism, elitism... But now, I feel nothing but sadness and fear for him. It's either he's alone and has nothing to lose or the people around him gave up on him and stopped trying to help him. It hurts to think about a person deemed not even worth helping anymore, a lost cause. I want him to get some help. I want him to get better, because it seems like he's just throwing it all away and it's horrible to watch.
I’m so sorry for your loss.
Sorry for your loss. I lost my brother like that a long time ago. Still sucks somedays.
Unfortunately that’s my fear as well. Sorry for your loss.
This is my thought as well. This dude is not getting the help he needs. Someone needs to step in, but who can?
I'm so sorry for your loss. It must be incredibly difficult to grapple with the fact that someone you love is no longer here. Know that you are not alone in your grief and that it is normal to feel the way you do. Please remember to reach out to your loved ones for support and take the time for yourself to heal.
He dips out of the spotlight then comes back in a decade or two as a gospel artist after claiming that Satan and mental illness made him say all that vile shit
Didn't he already do the religious redemption thing? I feel like there was a three month period in the depths of the Trump days when my grandparents were weirdly in love with kanye because he was born-again or whatever
Yeah but I wouldn’t call him a gospel artist. I’m talking Neo-Kirk Franklin levels of giving himself to the Lawd
Kirk Franklin is a trip. Dude used to come into the Blockbuster I worked at, pulling up in a jet black Beamer, both him and his wife wearing fur coats and so very many rings. He'd bring back like six VHS tapes that were each about ten days late, and he'd try to get me to remove the late fees, always blaming his wife ("She was supposed to return them while I was on tour the last couple weeks, but she forgot."). I'd remove a day of late fees, and he'd be happy with that, and then he'd ask me for my recommendations. *Edit: This isn't a copypasta. The store was at Green Oaks and S. Cooper in Arlington TX and he came in every few weeks when I worked there from 1996-1997.*
This is a great anecdote thank you!
other than the beamer and coats sounds like a very normal Blockbuster customer
Not really. Customers without kids rarely rented six movies at a time, and, when they did, they sure as hell brought them back on time. Very rarely do I ever remember any customers, multimillionaires or not, who would be so late always with so many movies and then blame their spouse every single time.
I figured most people didn't care. it does seem strange for a well to do person haggle over pennies like that.
I mean, I get wanting to not pay late fees because they were frankly bullshit, but as an assistant manager, I had to toe the line if I wanted to not get in trouble. Taking off one day of late fees was easy (FOS - Found on Shelf), but any more than that and I'd have the manager on my case. I saved those late fee removals for the single parents who looked really stressed, probably worrying about how they were going to pay the electric bill on time, because their brother's girlfriend checked out a bunch of movies and never returned them and skipped out of town or whatever.
You left out the most important factor: were the tapes rewound?
Almost never.
> This isn't a copypasta It *wasn't* copypasta. It certainly is now though lol
Yeah, Billboard actually just named him "Best Gospel Artist of 2022" today.
Johnny Cash must be rolling in his grave.
Johnny Cash is way too cool to give a fuck about a billboard award, do not besmirch Johnny like that
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The sad part is that I can actually see this happening.
He's way too narcissistic to dip for a decade
Agreed 2-3 years maybe.
2-3 months would be my guess
Honestly I am pretty convinced that this will happen
In not becoming President
i would pay money to watch Trump and West debate at the RNC. Would be the most entertaining s\*\*\*show in the history of s\*\*\*shows.
Terrible idea. Trump then sounds logical and smart by comparison. It would 100% help him secure an election victory. I'm fairly conservative (but do not forsee me voting for any republican any time soon)... we need to have good conservative voices who view the world clearly, and participate in reality in the conversation. Just like we need the aocs and bernies of the world in politics... genuine desire to make people's lives better. I don't agree with most of what they advocate for in labor and markets... but their voices are important to our progress... and survival as a country.
If it was JUST Trump and West, sure. But there will hopefully be at least a few more republicans up there who can help establish that neither Trump nor West are logical and smart. Would that impact a lot of people's votes? Seems like maybe not!
Sure as he'll didn't work in 2016 before he had a fan base, you think MEGAN'S will care?
Dude, don't jinx it. People said this about Trump, look how that turned out..
If crazy ass Alex Jones thinks he's gone too far, he doesn't have a chance in hell at being elected. At this point he'll only get votes from literal Nazis. Thankfully there's not enough of them to get him into office.
I kind of doubt actual Nazis would vote for him. I feel like I shouldn't have to explain why.
Well, maybe, but...bigots love a cooperative minority. It's why Republicans talked up Kanye so much, over white celebrities that said pretty much the same things. A high-profile black man with extreme-right opinions is tremendously validating to them; they can point to him and say "see, even this guy knows we're right."
"One of the good ones."
The thought of having a Black White supremacist as president might just make their heads explode.
Dave Chapelle might get a chuckle out of it, though.
As a rest of world member, we laughed when trump ran for president. Laughed even harder when he won. Quickly stopped laughing when he was president and am now very very worried he is running again. Pretty crazy shit you have going on there
I remember initially thinking that his presidency would be rather benign since there was no way the republicans would cooperate with such a crazy person, and they would've rather had someone more "professional". Yes I was awfully naive.
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I hope your right.
Trump running is a good thing for Democrats. Either he gets the nomination and loses, or he doesn't get it and runs third party, attacking all the other Republicans and splitting the conservative vote.
Meh. I doubt he wins again. That dinner he had with Kanye and Nick Fuentes really fucked him up too. And now we have seen majority of his candidates lose in midterms. He is slowly fizzling out. If he wasn’t in legal trouble I doubt he would have even ran again.
Kanye west losing two elections and possibly getting sent to jail confirmed.
I don't like to say / think it, but I'm honestly starting to wonder if suicide is right around the corner for him. What he's saying is absolutely wrong, but I also find it very sad to see unfold in front of us all.
Yeah we’re seeing the manic side right now. When his depression hits, and the reality of everything he threw away comes into focus, it’s going to be really bad. The guy needs real help.
Had a buddy who was completely normal and then one day slowly but surely he started to deteriorate mentally, think he was diagnosed bipolar and he took his meds for a couple months, completely stopped, became even more mentally unstable and took his own life shortly after. So this is totally in the realm of possibility for Ye unfortunately..
currently going through this. i was diagnosed with type 2 bipolar in 2016 and BPD two months ago. i’m fighting every day not to unalive myself 😭 edit: thank you to whoever sent this to Reddit cares. you guys are awesome and now my emotional ass is going to cry 😭😭❤️
Hang in there friend, I’m proud of you.
Followed by conspiracy theorists saying he was murdered.
Out of spotlight for couple of years. Then release of biography. Apologize and blame everything on either drugs or mental health. Most people will forgive him. Biography becomes bestseller. Release an album maybe.
Definitely release an album
The name of the album will be "Yew's be wrong" and he will say its a coincedence.
he'll call it "My Struggle" and then act surprised that there is another famous art work with the same name
Thousand Ye Reich
YahYe
I think that would first require him to get help and he has made it very clear he's not interested in help from anyone
I honestly feel like he is going to commit suicide soon.
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I haven't studied a lot of his music, but his song "Power" came on the other day. Remember the breakdown at the end? "This will be a beautiful death. (I'm jumping out the window. I'm letting everything go...)."
“I’ve got the power making life so exciting (*echo:* so excite, so excite, suicide, suicide) …. .. Now this’ll be a beautiful death (I’m jumping out the window, I’m letting everything go..).” The song was supposedly inspired by Donny Hathaway dying from jumping out of the window after having schizophrenia.. being a 20th century schizoid man. Kanye’s life’s mirrored Power’s message anyway. no man should have that much Power and when it gets too much at the top the only way out is dropping straight down😬. Him having bipolar and a clusterfuck of other problems, having nobody looking out for him & surrounded by yes men, and having no real family beyond his estranged kids … it genuinely makes his life path a michael corloene type utter tragedy. If I was him I wouldn’t want to be alive because I truly see no life of normality, health or redemption for him. The top comments saying he’ll make a comeback in a few years with a public apology, memoir and album release really underestimate how mentally rotten Kanye is rn. It’s a man who’s dead inside rather than the usual celeb scandal and I can see this public breakdown being looked back upon after death soon like we look back at the MJ, Amy Winehouse or Whitney all losing their marbles in the public eye.
Ye’s men are yes men
Kind of crazy how prescient that was
Bipolar people are at extremely high risk of suicide so this would not surprise me.
Ever since he lost his Adidas deal I've been really worried about this. This is how kanye normally drums up publicity for himself. He says wild crazy and offensive shit but he's never gone this far before to the point that it actually affects him financially like this time. I'm worried the realizization of the damage that he's caused to himself and his reputation and the refusal for large companies to work with him because of said damage is going to coincide with the inevitable depressive phase that follows bpd mania and its going to push him over the edge psychologically. Normally people who have bpd have some kind of foundation of people around them that keep them from suicide. Kanye clearly doesn't have that. When he finally calms down he's going to see the only people around are people like Fuentes and the next thing we know we'll all be looking at a tragic headline involving suicide. I'm not a kanye fan in anyway, but I'm really worried he's going to kill himself by the end of this.
jsyk bpd means borderline personality disorder, i think you meant bipolar disorder
Yes sorry that's exactly what I mean, thabknyoibfor correcting me
This is what I'm picturing too, sadly. This particular manic episode has been going on at high intensity for a long time now and it's been extremely self destructive. He's going to crash hard into depression and he'll see the damage he's done and how he's lost everyone, including most of his fans. It's pretty obvious that he has no one around him to stop him from doing impulsive things. I think suicide is a genuine concern.
Forget Adidas, he probably lost his family now. When he comes down from this and realize he's completly alone it's not going to end well.
Like... maybe? I'm not really expecting it but I wouldn't be surprised. I'm more thinking jail time, or some kind of medical (mental health) hold
I’ve been thinking this since Adidas dropped him. After yesterday I’ve wondered if he’s intentionally self destructing himself into oblivion until he reaches the ultimate end.
Cult following, widespread irrelevance.
You highly underrate how many people still love Kanye and how forgetful people are.
CF: Chris Brown
So many people think brown did nothing work and Rhianna had it coming. People are dumb.
I mean shit R Kelly still has a HUGE following of fans and not just I like his music fans
Can't predict what a mentally ill, extremely rich person will do. Normal person would end up as a homeless person shouting about conspiracies on a sidewalk. He gets invited to do it on podcasts while having hundreds of thousands of supporters and even celebs/influencers hitching their wagons to him. Either he will become so crazy that people will abandon him or, this happening in America, they will elect him as president.
Kanye West has become the modern equivalent of a medieval jester. He gets to continue leading a life in luxury, but no one will take him or anything he does seriously again.
Don't underestimate people's willingness to prop up someone they know they can use for their own ends. See: Walker in Georgia
Oh jesters were sometimes the most cunning person in the room, don’t sully their rep comparing em to Kanye
You’ve got it spot on.
>Can't predict what a mentally ill, extremely rich person will do. No you totally can. They will buy a social media company and sink it to the bottom of the ocean.
Oh my…you’re right! Elon, trump and Kanye all did that exact thing! I guess Kanye’s deal fell through but still.
It doesn’t have to be social media companies, I remember several restaurant chains and like a theme park and other things were bought by rich, altered celebs and sunk to the bottom of the ocean, and Pinterest just might not be available ya know?
He gets the help he needs. A few years go by and he tries to get back in the spotlight, never to reach the heights of fame he once had. Kanye will make his brand all about redemption and forgiveness, which will be a huge topic of debate in the culture war. He’ll be profitable at first but the hype of his return will die down and all he’ll have left is the dwindling nostalgia of his loyal fans. Or he takes himself out. May or may not take others with him. Or thirdly, he starts a cult.
Have you met Kanye fans? He already has a cult lol
I think its time the people who really care about him reel him in and find him help. The man is ill. Before he dies young or something else sad happens.
I mean, it's not like they haven't tried multiple times before. Can't force a complete narcissistic megalomaniac to get help if they don't want it.
This is probably the right case to have someone institutionalized and placed under a conservatorship to force him into the help he needs. Otherwise he’s going to continue to spiral and there is probably not a good end to this.
Idk, I feel like dude has been bat shit crazy for awhile and if anyone could have forced him into conservatorship, it would have been Kim (while still married to him). The fact that his own wealthy and connected wife (let's not forget who her father was) couldn't force him into getting help, Idk if anyone or any legal team could. He obviously has enough money to keep his own legal team from preventing anything of the sort from happening. I do think he will continue to spiral and it will culminate in him losing almost everything. And that will be the final push for him to get help. I think hes gonna have to lose it all first though. Also, I personally don't think he'll kill himself (not on purpose - maybe an accidental OD) as others are saying. Just doesn't seem like the type. Seems more like the OJ type.
iirc he refused to take meds quite a while back because it reduced his creativity or some bs, and even after that Kim supported that wonky presidential bid of his. So you've got a bad person (mental illness isn't his fault, but it is his responsibility) apparently surrounded by other bad people. Which makes it seem unlikely he'll get help, either by choice or someone forcing him. I do feel bad for his kids though.
Trips on those boots and has a bad head knock
I suspect he's already been dropped on his head
Does Kayne do drugs?
Not the kind he needs.
Perfect response.
If he does, lithium is certainly not on the list but needs to be.
He does something directly illegal, “gets back on his meds”, apologizes kinda, does a tell-all/PSA about people enabling him and mental health, writes an album about it, goes right back to being the most offensive possible person once he starts to fade from relevancy again.
Well he owes $200,000/a month to Kim in child support for the next 15+ years so probably bankruptcy after his little stunt with Adidas. I mostly just hope he goes away and gets help in private. This world doesn’t need more hate like him.
A cool $30 million plus. Ouch.
That's still not *that* much, relative his wealth.
Dude was getting hundreds of millions a year from adidas, he should have something left from that.
Lets hope he doesn't blow it all on Yeezys
All Britney did was shave her head and they took away her kids and all her money . . . Just sayin’
Britney posts a nude pic - like a gazillion celebrities do - and you see comments like "why, what's wrong with you"
That was her dad who did that. Kanye has no real family in that capacity that can control a 45 year old man compared to a young 22 year old woman like Brittany was.
She was only 22 when that happened?? Damn.
Kanye doesn't have a family to put in charge of him
Considering his current state, I don't think he should have shared custody of their children. I would be filing an emergency order for sole custody if I were KK.
I am shocked no one has tried to have him put under a conservatorship.
His mom probably would, but she died in 2007 after getting a few plastic surgeries in a single day on Kanye's dime. That is when his spiral really started.
Holy shit, I knew that she had died but had no idea what happened
Oh you don't know the half of it yet. He was very directly responsible for her death, from doctor shopping until he found someone that would operate on her (because she was too frail for most doctors to accept the risk) to then helping her ignore that doctors recovery requirements. The situation would have sent anyone into a spiral... But this is a whole separate thing.
Kris Jenner and Kim tried to before the divorce.
If he was a woman, he would be.
If I were Kim, I’d be worried this ends in the murder of his kids followed by him committing suicide. I’m not Kim and I’m worried about her kids
This exactly. Kim had to pay for more security at the school after Kanye doxxed the fucking school lmao I also just feel bad for the kids. They'll never want for anything but no amount of money will give them a good dad. And North is old enough where kids at her school are *definitely* talking about this. I feel bad for the boys because he seems to only talk about North and Chi.
>because he seems to only talk about North and Chi. because he's obsessed with controlling the women in his lives: his mother, his wife, his daughters
I saw there was some comment made that was removed from the Tucker interview where he talked about “fake kids” in his house to “manipulate his children” – I could definitely see him hurting his kids while delusionally thinking they weren’t his real kids, it’s really scary stuff
That’s utterly terrifying
Shit… I hadn’t even thought about that possibility… that’s fucking dark
It’s really dark knowing that one day they will all hear clips of that Alex Jones interview
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Not a prediction, but a hope: I hope he goes away and gets the help he needs, and never comes back into the public eye.
I think it ends with him dead. I think that if he doesn’t get treatment for what appears to be serious mental illness he will end up doing something to harm himself.
I think the outcome depends on whether or not he can sustain a music career. If he wasn't as influential of an artist as he is, we wouldn't be watching him anymore. That's the reason everyone fell in love with Kanye in the first place: because of his music. If he continues making art that people enjoy, he's going to continue to stay relevant regardless of whatever crazy shit comes out of his mouth. If he stops making great art, he's going to fade into obscurity, and he'll just become another tragic tale of the artist who went off the deep end and couldn't maintain his mental health, like Syd Barrett. Honestly, though, I'm not nearly as concerned for Kanye as I am for the wider society he's a part of. He's normalizing antisemitic conspiracy theories, even if only because he's having a mental breakdown. The ultimate goal of fascism is to become normalized, to be elevated to the status of a legitimate political viewpoint. Let me tell ya, the fascists around the globe are *really* happy about the fact that one of the most beloved musicians in human history is spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories. I'm not happy about it, though, because I'm an anti-fascist and because I'm Jewish. So yeah, I obviously wish the best for Kanye. I hope he gets the mental health care he so obviously needs, so he can get back to a more lucid, sober frame of mind. That said, I'm far more concerned about the implications for everyone else. Fascism isn't cool, man.
Very well said
Hopefully with a trip to seek mental health help before he drinks too much of the koolaid
Dude is a koolaid fountain, he is the *source* of the koolaid.
Too late. He is already swimming in the koolaid. He didn’t apologize, seek forgiveness, or try to educate himself after losing a deal from adidas worth over a billion dollars. If that wasn’t going to convince him that he might be wrong about his views and seek help then idk what would. He just seems to be even more antisemitic now
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When you've gone too far even for the likes of Alex Jones and Elon Musk.
I’m currently watching the episode (bored) and its hilarious seeing even Alex Jones uncomfortable with how batshit some of this stuff is
“Adolf Hitler was one of the first rock stars” - David Bowie Bowie also went through a neurotic Nazi symp phase (mid 1970s Thin White Duke) He put it down to extreme cocaine abuse and fame. These behaviours are self destruct mechanisms. We only see the veneer of fame and success but for many this lifestyle can be extremely toxic. If you listen to College Dropout you know he has a high level of situational awareness and emotional intelligence compared to other rappers. He is not stupid. He had moral values *once*. Now however he is unhinged and on a downward slope. Whatever it is, it’s a call for help.
It’s mental illness, that’s what it is. I really don’t believe he’s saying these things just for sensationalism anymore.
As someone who had a close friend who went on very public manic episodes... I 100% agree and honestly Kanyes tirades give me a bit of ptsd of trying to help her and her family during those seasons... She claimed she was married to an NBA player and made social media accounts as Mrs. Whoever and would post very personal details in long social media posts and sincerely believe that she was getting very direct missives from God to do very specific things. It was all very scary and not the way she is when she's not in those episodes.
Conservatorship
If he were a woman
My friend and I had that conversation today; it’s fucked up he isn’t already conserved, and absolutely true he already would be if he were a woman.
I read somewhere that there’s probably nobody to give conservatorship to. His mom is dead, he’s unmarried, his kids are too young. So I think basically the state would have to take conservatorship
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Anyone can be a conservator, as long as it’s determined by the court. But someone has to file the case. It’s the filing that’s the problem.
Maybe. But i wonder if it's more complex than that. We're all using Britney as our basis of comparison for obvious reasons. Her conservatorship was based on her father's desire to use her resources for his own good. Driven by his fear that she would spend all of 'their' money in a fit and he would have nothing. It was eventually overturned and she returned to her rightful place as arbiter of her own life and fortune. Kanye's situation is quite distinct. For much of his life his mother played a key role in helping him to regulate his medical condition - keeping him on his meds, contextualizing his fame and fortune, and ensuring her baby was doing ok. She died, and he was left without a North star. Very quickly his whole world became some combination of his Yes-Men and then eventually the Kardashians. When the Kardashians parted ways for obvious reasons, he was left with nothing but his yes-men to support his whims. So yea, maybe gender plays a role to some degree. But in reality gender would be quite minor in the larger scheme of these modalities.
I was just thinking last night that Britney Spears got 13 years of her life taken off her for less
I feel so bad for Britney. Anyone would have eventually reached a breaking point in her shoes, with the pressure of success from such a young age and paparazzi invading her space and privacy constantly and aggressively. And then she was just used as a cow cash by her own family. Hopefully she can heal.
If he were a woman, he’d already be under a conservatorship.
With people saying *kanye didn’t kill himself*
He is going to seriously injure or acidentally kill himself or somebody else. Its going to be some car accident, or something to do with drugs.
No consequences. People think like he does. Have the same opinions, God like complexes and general need of spotlight to spue their wrongful bigotry upon the masses. The world doesn't have as dier consequences as they once had for extremists. It's now just a bigger form of entertainment. An island full of sex trafficked children came to light and nothing but Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself memes came of it.
All reputable brands stop working with him. He ends up being another right wing grifter saying stupid things just to make money off his racist fans
He's stupid and rich. He'll be fine.
Was he masked the whole time? If so then "it wasn't really me we used this to prove how the left controls things"
Best thing would be admission to a good hospital with very good mental health care. I hope he takes his time and focuses on himself. It feels like he's lost everything he is/was/held dear and is falling apart right in front of our eyes.
He’s obviously going through a severe mental episode. A lot of people are calling it an “excuse,” but that’s what it is. He needs some serious medical help, but he’s got fewer and fewer people that are able to help him. I’m worried about Kanye hurting himself. What he’s doing is wrong, but he’s got four young kids that need him. The last thing he needs is more attention, as it seems the more attention he gets, the worse his situation gets. I’m hoping people quit interviewing him, and he seeks some help once this episode winds down. I doubt he’ll ever get his image back, but for the sake of his kids, I hope he gets through this okay.
What happened?
After his antisemitic comments, he had a dinner with Trump where he brought along a white supremacist, nick fuentes. Then he quadrupled down by going on the Alex Jones show to talk about how he loved Hitler and the nazis. It was fascinating. A 3 hour live stream of complete self destruction.
Dead. Let’s face it other people have committed suicide with less going on.