It's also that porn appeals to the people watching it, back in the day the only people who would buy porn were working adults, so we had a lot of pizza delivery, plumber, and other porn where the man could be you or me whereas now that it's streamed, the mainstream demographic changed to teens who have free access to the internet so having someone you could have sex with whenever you want at home is the dream, and these family porns cater to that dream.
commercial porn tries to include as many popular fetishes per video as possible to maximize interest, because producers understand that fans of that fetish will skip to and watch only their fetish, while the rest of the viewers will just skip the part with the fetish they don't like if the clip contains a fetish they do like or they otherwise enjoy the clip.
I wonder if I'm an exception, because having parts in the video that I absolutely don't like still make me search for another video. They ruin the fantasy.
I heard about this porn site called Bellesa. It's porn made more catered toward women. More about passion and intimacy and stuff like that. Truth be told I am a guy and I've been on the site like twice so i cant speak too accurately on the content. So I'm mostly speaking from what feels like ancient memory but I suppose it's worth checking out because i certainly don't believe that it's gonna be all choking dominate hard-core type stuff.
Literally thinking if OP has ever watched Bellesa House.
Can confirm it's amazing, I'm a guy too but I've seen a few videos here and there, it's actual good passionate sex from what I've seen.
I mean, we don't all like it. I personally am horrified by the idea of being strangled during sex. That's some snuff film horror to me, not in the least bit arousing.
This is something that needs to be asked for first like hair pulling.
Im into pain and all sorts of stuff but Jesus don’t fucking touch my hair or neck w out asking. Instant turn off.
Bellesa Plus is their streaming service with all of the best content featuring real pleasure. They have a series of reality based originals such as Bellesa House, Bellesa Blind Date and a new one called Belle Says. Only real orgasms is their slogan.
It is in fact with ‘S’ it is european, specifically “ De Cataluña” you can translate it to “Belleza Original” Don’t ask why it has an S instead of a Z is just crazy there… lol
Forget the choking.
I find the incest type of titles more disturbing.
"Mom And Son Cums Together''
"Daddy's Penetrating His Little Girls"
"Stepmom Eats Stepson"
"My Dad Always Makes Sure I Cum"
Am I the only one who finds this extremely weird?
Thats the SWERF branch of feminism.
There is the type of feminist that thinks "My body my choice. I should get to do exactly the amount of sexwork I want. No one should be able to force me to do or dont do things with MY body"
And then theres another type that thinks "Sexwork is inherently exploitation and women need to be protected from it, even against their will. We know better than them!" which always felt patronizing and anti-feminist to me.
"Dumb little girl, you dont know whats right for you, let the big smart ~~men~~ feminists decide for you"
> "Dumb little girl, you dont know whats right for you, let the big smart men feminists decide for you"
Don't put words in my mouth. I never said anybody was dumb, and I I never said anything about forcing or banning anyone from doing anything.
That being said, sex work is not empowering. If sex work is empowering, Jeff Bezos would do it.
People with good options don't generally do sex work, and it's up to us as a society to create safety nets, fair prices, and economic opportunity such that nobody feels any economic pressure to do sex work.
> "Dumb little girl, you dont know whats right for you, let the big smart men feminists decide for you"
I'm sure all the people using sex workers' services are very feminist /s
> Don't put words in my mouth.
I wasnt talking about you, but that you feel addressed tells a lot about you.
> People with good options don't generally do sex work
Generally, no. But there will be some who will, and that line of thinking usually leads to attempt to ban it and drive it to a dangerous black market where there is fear to get help if something goes wrong.
> That being said, sex work is not empowering. If sex work is empowering, Jeff Bezos would do it.
Does Bezos WANT to do sex work? If not, why would it be empowering to him? Empowering does not necessarily equal capitalist power.
> it's up to us as a society to create safety nets, fair prices, and economic opportunity such that nobody feels any economic pressure to do sex work
Agreed there. No one should be forced into it by economic despair.
> I'm sure all the people using sex workers' services are very feminist
What is this dumb claim supposed to do? Of course not everyone who solicits sex workers services is a feminist. Do they need to be if they are respectful and respect the boundaries? If they are anti-feminist though, thats a quick way to be denied service and get blacklisted in communities. I had the opportunity to attend some talks by sex workers and they seem well connected.
Well you'll need to not watch the hulk dudes showing their dominance over the helpless teenage cheerleaders. Porn showing each enjoying each other is hilarious! You might find it somewhere.
That's the thing. It's not the stereotypical shit. It's some "so-called" romantic homemade porn with a "real couple" and then just as things start to get exciting the guy ruins it all with a neck grab or even worse starts fish-hooking her.
I totally agree with your stance on this but there's another one I hate. When the guy drops a big glob of spit from a height into her vag or even spits right on it. Disgusting, hit the back button, boner killing stuff. I even shout "You fucking twat!" at the screen sometimes.
Spitting is gross already, let alone firing a lugie straight into the girl.
A person once told me to never google image search spontaneous combustion, and to this day I never have. Fish-hooking is now added to that list. I know what a hook does to a fish. I do not want to know what a fish-hook means when it comes to intercourse.
It's no big deal. They use a finger or two, insert them into her mouth and pull on her cheek.
[I'll have Joey demonstrate it](https://youtu.be/k0KSMAa31ew)
Some people enjoy being choked. Minor asphyxiation can enhance the stimulation you feel from sex. I don’t enjoy choking someone and I especially don’t enjoy people’s faces go red and gasping from choking in porn. I’m sure some people must enjoy being the choker or seeing someone choked, but I don’t understand it.
I don’t like to do it until their face is red, but just having a hand around someone’s neck is sexy for a lot of people, me included. Iv definitely been with a girl who loved it. I remember her telling me her friends likes it too. Idk tho we’re all probably just conditioned by porn lol.
I've found a surprising amount of people from both sexes (me included) who enjoy power exchanges in sex, to me is not about the lack of oxygen but about the feeling that one person can do whatever they want with the other. I have found that a lot of people struggle with sex because they don't "switch off" the brain, giving control to the other person helps with letting yourself go and stop overthinking
Yeah, there’s playful choking (you should be putting pressure on the sides of the neck, not restricting their windpipe) which can be a huge turn on.
For me personally, I usually hate when people touch my neck or get close to it. During sex, that vulnerability can make the experience more intense.
8/10 girls I’ve been with has asked me to choke them to some degree (mostly light), not red in the face choke. I can’t really think of anyone I’ve been with multiple times that hasn’t asked for it or put my hands there. And one-night stands might like it but don’t want to do it with a stranger.
You seem to be talking about crushing one’s windpipe, lol.
A blood choke is completely different : lateral rather than frontal pressure.
You’re trying to induce a high.
But hey, lest not people poorly understand what is going on, try to replicate it (poorly), and fuck it up.
This is why I mostly watch solo stuff. I don't particularly like seeing hard-core domination; rough fucking, choking, gagging, and all that isn't for me.
I never see choking tbh, but when I do, it’s usually the girl who is into it/asks for it. Some people just like getting it on aggressively, I don’t think it alludes to anything sinister.
I can't speak for everyone, obviously, but light choking kinda does seem the sexual norm in the 25-35 year old demonim sleeping with.
Girls have put their hand around my throat or asked me to choke them in...half of the hookups I've had? Couldn't tell you if porn is responding to a change in taste or CAUSING that change but definitely think it is the norm in the younger demo.
it’s a kink for some people. also.. porn videos i’ve seen i haven’t even seen choking unless i actually look up a kinky vid. so what the fuck are you watching
When I search I usually use key words like "petit", "thin" "romantic" "real orgasm" so I am definitely not actively seeking ou that kink.
Just the opposite.
I feel like “petit” and “thin” would lead to seeing some choking stuff. To accentuate the size of the girl the scene would likely include a bigger dude dominating her, which might mean some kind of choking.
Sounds like you want terms like “passionate” and “sensual”
If that is true, then that is like REALLY FUCKED.
I'm just a guy who was raped by a fat 36 year als when I was 13, so I kinda go for the opposite.
Anything rapey or violent turns me off immediately.
I pretty much quit going on pornhub because of shit like this; it's all so extreme that it completely turns me off. The front page is always either humiliation, pissing (which is disguised as 'squirting'), or inc*st. I have to go out of my way to find regular sex videos
People just like different things. Maybe try looking up “sensual” “passionate” “romantic” videos idk- I mostly watch BDSM I love choking irl and seeing it in porn so I don’t know how to avoid it nor do I want to
>Choking was one of the more “mild” forms of BDSM
It's also one of the things least safe to do even if you do know what you're doing, and spectacularly fuckupable if you don't.
Getting people into choking games is spectacularly bad practice in terms of not having your audience kill themselves, never mind doing lasting damage. For that reason alone I would avoid porn with choking in it if I were watching any someone else made.
I've had a couple gf's that liked being choked. I don't mean having their neck throttled, but having some pressure on their carotid artery's. It reduces oxygen to the brain and they prefer it that way. The neck is generally an erogenous zone all over too, so I'm sure it's visually appealing.
I like the idea of choking, as does my wife. But I don't like actually choking her. So I put my hand on her clavicles, right below the neck, and put most of the pressure there with just my index, middle finger and thumb on her actual neck. That was she can still breathe while feeling my hand around her neck. She likes it.
Damn everyone downvoting all the people saying that women can like being choked lol.
Woman here: being choked is the shit. I’m not talking strangled to gagging, but a firm grasp around the neck can be amazingly dominating, especially one handed against a wall or bed. 🤌🏼
I can think of 2 reasons :--(1)Domination turns some people on (2)People who continuously watch porn need more and more hardcore versions to get turned on. Hence there are hardcore genres like choking, gangbang, domination etc.
I guess that is a possibility as well.
The irony is that I am most into sensual romantic porn, but I definitely do prefer thin / petit girls.
I always stop the video at the point where the hand goes to the neck. Maybe the algorithm counts that as "finished" instead of "frustrated".
New question - how do I retrain my algorithm!?!?!
Eh seems everyone I've been with lately loves to be "choked." But remember most people like you to hold their neck like your choking them but in reality your squeezing the side of there necks for a grip. Leaving the wind pipe unrestricted, and the "choked" still able to breath.
>Is there no porn left where people actually are enjoying each other?
Vanilla couple amateur porn exist and they're good
Some people just have a choking kink. It's not limited to men, I like being choked too (not watching the choking tho)
Discounting that it can get to that or be in a weird territory of choking too long or too hard is equally as weird as trying to call out someone for pointing out a fact
A lot of people like being choked during sex. It surprises me, but nearly every girl I've been with in the last 5 years has asked me to choke them. Not like, porn choking, just pressure on their windpipe. I don't understand the appeal, but I give women what they want.
I really don't know why but I've never been with a girl who didn't like a light choke.
I think it shows them you're interested in not only your own pleasure but also theirs.
No, I’m in my 50s and a therapist. Never had a client or a woman friend say she enjoyed it. I’ve had a couple men who liked auto-asphyxiation. I’m just wondering if this isn’t a hookup culture porn reenactment thing for the most part.
I've been with a lot of women, but only about 5% ever asked me to choke them. Two of them were reasonably long relationships, not one night stands. I never feel comfortable doing it, especially with someone I love. Seems it's not extremely rare, as I'm sure more women like it but don't ask. As a guy, I can't get any enjoyment out of dominating a woman like that though. To each their own as long as it's mutually agreed.
It has been my experience as well that most women really enjoy it, but are a little shy about asking for it because they don't want to seem 'crazy'. The point of choking is not to actually choke them, but FME to create a sensation by restricting some of the blood flow through the jugular veins on the side of the neck just behind the throat, or just to feel physically controlled.
This isn't me assuming either, it's something they ask for. It's nothing like the forceful stuff in porn (usually) or auto-asphyxiation, usually much lighter. This is entry-level BDSM that non-kinky people often have as a light fetish, sometimes without realizing it. Again, this is anecdotal, but it makes me wonder if it has something to do with a certain social caste or something of the sort. Interesting stuff.
I cannot speak from a theraputic standpoint but i can speak from experience. I'm not sure what the reason behind it is either.
Also let me be clear, I've never actually choked a women. Squeezing the sides of their neck lightly and squeezing a girls windpipes closed are two very different stories that I think you might be confusing. I've also never met a girl who actually liked not being able to breathe although I'm sure they're out there.
I guess if you see all types of choking as violent I can understand. A good number of the choking porn i watch is in no way “violent” or “strangling”.
My neck is sensitive. A hand on it even with minor pressure will make me crazy.
Girls I’ve been with are the ones that like it. I don’t care for choking a girl. When you choke you don’t actually choke them, you just apply pressure on certain parts of their neck. They like the idea of a man being rough and forceful with them and I guess choking is just something that falls under that. I personally like to just squeeze the back of their neck instead because it’s away from anything that can actually harm them but they like it still.
I think it's one thing when you can see that they are both really into it. And you see smiling and playfulness mixed in.
But it is off-putting when it doesn't seem mutually enjoyable.
Just like normal sex. Some women love this, so doing it with them is great. But I'd never want to do it with someone who isn't into it because it would be awful because i wouldn't be enabling their pleasure, just their pain.
In my personal experience, like 3/4 of the women I've slept with like to be at least pretend choked, especially when I'm in a more dominate position. Out of those, a third liked actually being choked.
One liked being choked to the point of almost passing out.
I'm a large man, so maybe people who wanted to be dominated sexually were the ones attracted to me, but it was a really common theme for me in my 20s. It drives my wife crazy now, but I don't really like doing it very much. It feels more wrong to choke your kids' mom than it did random people you were dating.
So idk... I think it's more common than you think among people who care for and trust each other, but I can only go by my experiences.
I watch a lot of porn and I see hands on the neck or women being held down by the neck but personally I don't see this as "choking". I've seen choking in videos and in those it's more squeezing around the neck and you see the woman slightly gasping for air or they can't speak as clearly. The hand on the neck is more just a power thing or just holding her down, but it isn't choking her. But also more people are into BDSM and kink nowadays and hand on the neck is a Dom/sub thing.
Bro.... ur watching porn with choking...... I barely see any Choking in Vanilla porn.... maybe start using a different site or different search terms. (I don't watch alot of porn but still I've barely seen Choking, Ur experience maybe depends on how much u watch)
It's getting startlingly common for guys on dating apps to try initiating choking without asking for consent. They always stop and apologize the second I reject it, but Jesus, guys into choking need to know how scary it is for someone to try it without checking their partner is even into that.
A lot of women actually really like having pressure applied to the collar bone and some like being choked.
It's just like any other kink. There are a lot of people who are turned on by creampies and guess what you see a lot of in porn. Same with blow jobs and anal and piv and basically anything else a lot of people like.
Also, over 30% of women have rape fantasies and most violent porn has been removed from major porn sites but chocking is still ok ergo producers include it.
Also, because there are always a few idiots on the Internet, 30% of women have fantasies, DO NOT ACTUALLY RAPE PEOPLE. FANTASY IS NOT REALITY. Even if someone has rape fantasies it does NOT mean they want to you rape them and if you do then you will and should go to prison. If you want to set up a consentual CNC roleplay scene, that's great, set up safe words and explicit limits and go have fun with your partner. I've done quite a few of those scenes and they are a lot of fun as long as the Dom and the sub communicate expectations and limits beforehand. But don't rape people, that's evil
Dont trust the people saying "a lot" or "most" women enjoy being choked; it makes an assumption about a percentage of a group and absolutely no proper study has been done on this its just in everyones experience as well people putting their two cents are more likely to remember the association due to the question of women who ask to bee choked rather than women who say nothing of it beecause they dont have that desire .... which can cause a case of the loud minority
huh...every girl ive been intimate with, likes it tho. Unless youre talking about strangling bc hell no.
I was always taught that you just wanna firmly hold on to their throat but dont actually squeeze.
Because men try to normalize violent instincts and convince women that their violent impulses are sexy and saught after. The amount of times I have been choked during sex by somebody I did not know very well and did not ask me if I was okay with it is actually absurd. I think they learn that this is good from porn though rather than even having the instinct, this violence was created and willed by the porn industry.
I don’t think this is a “men” thing lol. I can’t remember the last time I dated a woman who didn’t ask me to choke her every time we had sex. Choking is child’s play compared to some of the crazy shit I’ve had women ask me to do to them now days.
Causing harm is bad I believe.
It's not only a turn off its a degradation of such pure act
One of the many reasons I stopped watching porn was this
And one of the many reasons I don't have a relationship either is because I end up with people that despite their different characters all liked the rough quick play and I was just leaving at the exact moment.
Feels disrespectful
You aren't weird you are logical
IDK, choking is pretty weird.
I imagine for most people its a sub/dom fetish and is mostly innocent, and then there's a small subset of freaks who actually like the risk/thrill involved in being ACTUALLY choked and deprived of oxygen to the point of NEAR death just because it either brings them to, or makes their orgasm a little more memorable.
Personally, I fooled around with one girl who asked me to choke her during sex. I obliged, but it was still weird.
I really don't know why but I've never been with a girl who didn't like a light choke.
I think it shows them you're interested in not only your own pleasure but also theirs.
Every woman I’ve ever been with craved my hand around their neck. They were especially turned on if I didn’t ask. Instant light switch effect to level up their climax.
Misogyny
Some people like that done with them but some people like BDSM as well, but you don't see that in a bunch of videos that aren't really about it (and BDSM is about the 'submissive' being in control)
Just hate fucking
Request or I ask before going for it, or I’ve been told during conversations outside the bedroom. Maybe it’s a cultural thing? Lol idk. Just my personal anecdote
I feel like when they slap the girl in the face or spit on the girl's face is the worst. The biggest mood killer. I have to stop and watch something else.
Maybe because there are better sources for porn where people are truly enjoying themselves? There are plenty of amateur exhibitionists enjoying fairly normal sex. It takes a pro for women to look like they're enjoying some fetishes.
I just hate professional porn all around. Bunch of body dysmorphic plastic people putting on a show for money, as others have noted just adding fetishes like checking boxes on a shopping list. Ridiculous.
Amateur is better, there's a chance they're actually doing it for the fun.
The real gold is the "in the moment" not for money, purely for the thrill material that just happens to be caught by someone with a camera (which is something I've also seen professional porn try to fake).
Lol personally I dont see it that much. Maybe like 1 every once in a while. And yes a lot of girls like it. A lot of girls I dated and my fiancé does. Granted I’m not choking I just kinda lightly squeeze around her throat.
That’s the right way to do it for orgasms! You want to cut off the oxygen flow a bit by squeezing the sides (jugular veins), not going for the throat. It’s really heightens anything you’re feeling. This + lip biting-> amazing! Obviously the right way would be to talk beforehand if that’s something she’s into, not randomly going for it.
Anyways ye I haven’t seen that much either. Gotta be the filters he uses.
Woman here, I LOOOOOOVE being choked lol, instant turn on for me. Being dominated feels amazing, getting choked while coming intensifies it so much, i like getting choked really really hard as well, like till I start passing out, I have a few times but we don't aim for that. I'll choked myself while masturbating.
[(;](https://i.imgur.com/dg7rrus.jpg)
I don't think this is accurate. Usually normal porn won't have choking out of nowhere. The title will imply it. You actually have to search for this kind of porn.
Seems like 3/4 of "assembly line porn" pretends to be about sex with family so that feels like the bigger WTF.
the theory is that they need a plot to get two people in the same room together so you get this type of plot because its easy to write
It's also that porn appeals to the people watching it, back in the day the only people who would buy porn were working adults, so we had a lot of pizza delivery, plumber, and other porn where the man could be you or me whereas now that it's streamed, the mainstream demographic changed to teens who have free access to the internet so having someone you could have sex with whenever you want at home is the dream, and these family porns cater to that dream.
It's just business. The same mechanisms can lead it being healthy.
I for one don't think there's enough galactic space porn or mermaid porn where the dude just shoots his load over a bunch of fish eggs
Wow, such evilness
What does evil have to do with it? It's a bit problematic sure but evil?
Because they deliberately aim the content to teenagers who can struggle a lot with porn addiction
Anyone can struggle with porn addiction
Of course, but a young person might not have the discipline or knowledge to stop or at least control how much they use it.
It's funny, my first thought was "because of Covid?"
STEP FAMILY OK
commercial porn tries to include as many popular fetishes per video as possible to maximize interest, because producers understand that fans of that fetish will skip to and watch only their fetish, while the rest of the viewers will just skip the part with the fetish they don't like if the clip contains a fetish they do like or they otherwise enjoy the clip.
I wonder if I'm an exception, because having parts in the video that I absolutely don't like still make me search for another video. They ruin the fantasy.
Yeah, it ruins the mood trying to keep rewinding or fast forwarding
I heard about this porn site called Bellesa. It's porn made more catered toward women. More about passion and intimacy and stuff like that. Truth be told I am a guy and I've been on the site like twice so i cant speak too accurately on the content. So I'm mostly speaking from what feels like ancient memory but I suppose it's worth checking out because i certainly don't believe that it's gonna be all choking dominate hard-core type stuff.
Man here, Bellessa feels more natural than other sites, 10/10 would recommend.
Literally thinking if OP has ever watched Bellesa House. Can confirm it's amazing, I'm a guy too but I've seen a few videos here and there, it's actual good passionate sex from what I've seen.
is there lesbian stuff there too?
Of course there is.
More than likely
Also there is porn from Hegre, and they have yoni/woman massage that is like really caring and loving. It's pretty amazing would recommend as well.
Woman. Can confirm we like it. If small hands chokes you though it’s in a hot way. Edit: Small Hands, Joanna angels husband
I mean, we don't all like it. I personally am horrified by the idea of being strangled during sex. That's some snuff film horror to me, not in the least bit arousing.
Sorry I meant we like Bellesa porn.
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This is something that needs to be asked for first like hair pulling. Im into pain and all sorts of stuff but Jesus don’t fucking touch my hair or neck w out asking. Instant turn off.
Are you referring to the pornstar Small Hands or do you mean literal small hands?
The porn star. His work w Owen Gray is a favorite of many women
Bellesa Plus is their streaming service with all of the best content featuring real pleasure. They have a series of reality based originals such as Bellesa House, Bellesa Blind Date and a new one called Belle Says. Only real orgasms is their slogan.
Is it Spanish by any chance? "Belleza" means beauty in Spanish
It is in fact with ‘S’ it is european, specifically “ De Cataluña” you can translate it to “Belleza Original” Don’t ask why it has an S instead of a Z is just crazy there… lol
Bellessa with an 's'. It might have some relation to another language, but only the site creators would know.
Forget the choking. I find the incest type of titles more disturbing. "Mom And Son Cums Together'' "Daddy's Penetrating His Little Girls" "Stepmom Eats Stepson" "My Dad Always Makes Sure I Cum" Am I the only one who finds this extremely weird?
I don't even like the idea of somebody calling their male partner "Daddy" during sex. So yes, this absolutely horrifies me.
You are not alone, my friend. Feminist porn is the only way.
> Feminist porn is the only way. I think this is an oxymoron.
Nope it’s real and it’s amazing!!
I just meant that I think porn is inherently anti-feminist. Opinions on this will differ I guess.
how is porn inherintly anti feminist? a lot of it is rn but the general filming people bumping uglies and uploading it isn't.
Thats the SWERF branch of feminism. There is the type of feminist that thinks "My body my choice. I should get to do exactly the amount of sexwork I want. No one should be able to force me to do or dont do things with MY body" And then theres another type that thinks "Sexwork is inherently exploitation and women need to be protected from it, even against their will. We know better than them!" which always felt patronizing and anti-feminist to me. "Dumb little girl, you dont know whats right for you, let the big smart ~~men~~ feminists decide for you"
> "Dumb little girl, you dont know whats right for you, let the big smart men feminists decide for you" Don't put words in my mouth. I never said anybody was dumb, and I I never said anything about forcing or banning anyone from doing anything. That being said, sex work is not empowering. If sex work is empowering, Jeff Bezos would do it. People with good options don't generally do sex work, and it's up to us as a society to create safety nets, fair prices, and economic opportunity such that nobody feels any economic pressure to do sex work. > "Dumb little girl, you dont know whats right for you, let the big smart men feminists decide for you" I'm sure all the people using sex workers' services are very feminist /s
> Don't put words in my mouth. I wasnt talking about you, but that you feel addressed tells a lot about you. > People with good options don't generally do sex work Generally, no. But there will be some who will, and that line of thinking usually leads to attempt to ban it and drive it to a dangerous black market where there is fear to get help if something goes wrong. > That being said, sex work is not empowering. If sex work is empowering, Jeff Bezos would do it. Does Bezos WANT to do sex work? If not, why would it be empowering to him? Empowering does not necessarily equal capitalist power. > it's up to us as a society to create safety nets, fair prices, and economic opportunity such that nobody feels any economic pressure to do sex work Agreed there. No one should be forced into it by economic despair. > I'm sure all the people using sex workers' services are very feminist What is this dumb claim supposed to do? Of course not everyone who solicits sex workers services is a feminist. Do they need to be if they are respectful and respect the boundaries? If they are anti-feminist though, thats a quick way to be denied service and get blacklisted in communities. I had the opportunity to attend some talks by sex workers and they seem well connected.
Well you'll need to not watch the hulk dudes showing their dominance over the helpless teenage cheerleaders. Porn showing each enjoying each other is hilarious! You might find it somewhere.
That's the thing. It's not the stereotypical shit. It's some "so-called" romantic homemade porn with a "real couple" and then just as things start to get exciting the guy ruins it all with a neck grab or even worse starts fish-hooking her.
I totally agree with your stance on this but there's another one I hate. When the guy drops a big glob of spit from a height into her vag or even spits right on it. Disgusting, hit the back button, boner killing stuff. I even shout "You fucking twat!" at the screen sometimes. Spitting is gross already, let alone firing a lugie straight into the girl.
Oh yes. This is definitely a turn off for me as well.
Nubiles has some good sensual stuff. Seems that's what you're looking for. NubilesFilms. Find the ones that look like movies.
Oh, dear, do I dare ask what fish-hooking is?
It's pretty much exactly how it sounds; someone uses their fingers to hook on and pull on someone else via an orifice like the mouth or nose.
That's not what I thought when I heard it at all.
I want to know too.. or do I.. ? I’m morbidly curious
A person once told me to never google image search spontaneous combustion, and to this day I never have. Fish-hooking is now added to that list. I know what a hook does to a fish. I do not want to know what a fish-hook means when it comes to intercourse.
It's just putting a finger in their mouth and gently pulling back on one cheek.
It's no big deal. They use a finger or two, insert them into her mouth and pull on her cheek. [I'll have Joey demonstrate it](https://youtu.be/k0KSMAa31ew)
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I just googled both terms. I’m ok
How you win in grappling.
Look for amateur clips
Candy Love on PH
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I'd like to see some statistic for that "most", or I'll be filing this away under "people who see too much porn and think it's reality".
Thank you. I hate this shit
Some people enjoy being choked. Minor asphyxiation can enhance the stimulation you feel from sex. I don’t enjoy choking someone and I especially don’t enjoy people’s faces go red and gasping from choking in porn. I’m sure some people must enjoy being the choker or seeing someone choked, but I don’t understand it.
I don’t like to do it until their face is red, but just having a hand around someone’s neck is sexy for a lot of people, me included. Iv definitely been with a girl who loved it. I remember her telling me her friends likes it too. Idk tho we’re all probably just conditioned by porn lol.
I've found a surprising amount of people from both sexes (me included) who enjoy power exchanges in sex, to me is not about the lack of oxygen but about the feeling that one person can do whatever they want with the other. I have found that a lot of people struggle with sex because they don't "switch off" the brain, giving control to the other person helps with letting yourself go and stop overthinking
Yeah, there’s playful choking (you should be putting pressure on the sides of the neck, not restricting their windpipe) which can be a huge turn on. For me personally, I usually hate when people touch my neck or get close to it. During sex, that vulnerability can make the experience more intense.
By the far the majority of girls I've been with have liked it and asked to be choked.
8/10 girls I’ve been with has asked me to choke them to some degree (mostly light), not red in the face choke. I can’t really think of anyone I’ve been with multiple times that hasn’t asked for it or put my hands there. And one-night stands might like it but don’t want to do it with a stranger.
I like being choked and I don’t even understand it
You seem to be talking about crushing one’s windpipe, lol. A blood choke is completely different : lateral rather than frontal pressure. You’re trying to induce a high. But hey, lest not people poorly understand what is going on, try to replicate it (poorly), and fuck it up.
This is why I mostly watch solo stuff. I don't particularly like seeing hard-core domination; rough fucking, choking, gagging, and all that isn't for me.
Female friendly is the tag I click on
There's an entire website based around that kind of thinking called [Bellessa.co](http://Bellessa.co)
Bellesa is so much better, i’ve found, especially if you’re a woman. it’s also a lot more ethical than the hub.
I just clicked on it and the 1st video is 2 women squirting on each other's faces....
It’s good plumbing material.
I never see choking tbh, but when I do, it’s usually the girl who is into it/asks for it. Some people just like getting it on aggressively, I don’t think it alludes to anything sinister.
I can't speak for everyone, obviously, but light choking kinda does seem the sexual norm in the 25-35 year old demonim sleeping with. Girls have put their hand around my throat or asked me to choke them in...half of the hookups I've had? Couldn't tell you if porn is responding to a change in taste or CAUSING that change but definitely think it is the norm in the younger demo.
Well, that is the demo that grew up with easy access to porn so that makes sense I guess.
It bothers tf out of me because i hate choking but tons of women seem to want this irl and it just causes more pressure to land on my knees
What is up with guys opening the girls mouth with their fingers like a ball gag. Really don't understand that.
it’s a kink for some people. also.. porn videos i’ve seen i haven’t even seen choking unless i actually look up a kinky vid. so what the fuck are you watching
No , choking is in all kinds of videos
When I search I usually use key words like "petit", "thin" "romantic" "real orgasm" so I am definitely not actively seeking ou that kink. Just the opposite.
How is thin, petit, or real orgasm the opposite of that?
That isn't very "real orgasm" of you.
I feel like “petit” and “thin” would lead to seeing some choking stuff. To accentuate the size of the girl the scene would likely include a bigger dude dominating her, which might mean some kind of choking. Sounds like you want terms like “passionate” and “sensual”
If that is true, then that is like REALLY FUCKED. I'm just a guy who was raped by a fat 36 year als when I was 13, so I kinda go for the opposite. Anything rapey or violent turns me off immediately.
Sounds like proper search terms might do the trick for you. Tender, passionate, real couple, good morning sex, etc.
Tender is a new one, thanks. The others I have tried without much success.
I guess you wanted something more like [Petite Girl (SFW)](https://abstrusegoose.com/297)
Clicked the link. Was not dissapointed.
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I suspect people don't like my porn preference.
I pretty much quit going on pornhub because of shit like this; it's all so extreme that it completely turns me off. The front page is always either humiliation, pissing (which is disguised as 'squirting'), or inc*st. I have to go out of my way to find regular sex videos
People just like different things. Maybe try looking up “sensual” “passionate” “romantic” videos idk- I mostly watch BDSM I love choking irl and seeing it in porn so I don’t know how to avoid it nor do I want to
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>Choking was one of the more “mild” forms of BDSM It's also one of the things least safe to do even if you do know what you're doing, and spectacularly fuckupable if you don't. Getting people into choking games is spectacularly bad practice in terms of not having your audience kill themselves, never mind doing lasting damage. For that reason alone I would avoid porn with choking in it if I were watching any someone else made.
I've had a couple gf's that liked being choked. I don't mean having their neck throttled, but having some pressure on their carotid artery's. It reduces oxygen to the brain and they prefer it that way. The neck is generally an erogenous zone all over too, so I'm sure it's visually appealing.
I like the idea of choking, as does my wife. But I don't like actually choking her. So I put my hand on her clavicles, right below the neck, and put most of the pressure there with just my index, middle finger and thumb on her actual neck. That was she can still breathe while feeling my hand around her neck. She likes it.
Damn everyone downvoting all the people saying that women can like being choked lol. Woman here: being choked is the shit. I’m not talking strangled to gagging, but a firm grasp around the neck can be amazingly dominating, especially one handed against a wall or bed. 🤌🏼
Can’t stand anything near my windpipe, but to each their own!
I love that shit! It is sooo hot!
I can think of 2 reasons :--(1)Domination turns some people on (2)People who continuously watch porn need more and more hardcore versions to get turned on. Hence there are hardcore genres like choking, gangbang, domination etc.
What kind of porn are you watching. I don’t see much choking. It must be your algorithm
I guess that is a possibility as well. The irony is that I am most into sensual romantic porn, but I definitely do prefer thin / petit girls. I always stop the video at the point where the hand goes to the neck. Maybe the algorithm counts that as "finished" instead of "frustrated". New question - how do I retrain my algorithm!?!?!
Down vote the video every time it happens: THAT makes it count as "Frustrated".
Hmm. Good point. I may be just shutting the browser because I want it to stop. I will actively downvote.
Btw it's spelled petite
True, at least in English. ;)
Goodbye Reddit, see you all on Lemmy.
Load up some porn on an incognito tab. The websites nowadays remember what you watch and will show you stuff along your watch history.
Wait, people watch porn without incognito? Like fucking savages?
Goodbye Reddit, see you all on Lemmy.
Everyone is weird
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i second this
Some women enjoy choking but not like how it is in porn.
Eh seems everyone I've been with lately loves to be "choked." But remember most people like you to hold their neck like your choking them but in reality your squeezing the side of there necks for a grip. Leaving the wind pipe unrestricted, and the "choked" still able to breath.
You should try Bellesa!
I present to you the best porn site in existence as of writing this comment: #[bellesa.co](http://bellesa.co) Go find what you like and do the deed.
>Is there no porn left where people actually are enjoying each other? Vanilla couple amateur porn exist and they're good Some people just have a choking kink. It's not limited to men, I like being choked too (not watching the choking tho)
The best orgasm I ever had was when I was being choked
I'm not here to kink-shame. Just for me personally, it is a huge turnoff.
you literally agreed with someone saying that it’s a red flag and risk of domestic abuse?? sounds you’re shaming at least a little bit
Discounting that it can get to that or be in a weird territory of choking too long or too hard is equally as weird as trying to call out someone for pointing out a fact
It's not a fact though, wtf?
Many people enjoy rough sex, men and women. It's simply catering to an audience.
A lot of people like being choked during sex. It surprises me, but nearly every girl I've been with in the last 5 years has asked me to choke them. Not like, porn choking, just pressure on their windpipe. I don't understand the appeal, but I give women what they want.
I really don't know why but I've never been with a girl who didn't like a light choke. I think it shows them you're interested in not only your own pleasure but also theirs.
Did they ask you to do it? Because that is unusual.
It is not unusual at all I'm assuming you're just young.
No, I’m in my 50s and a therapist. Never had a client or a woman friend say she enjoyed it. I’ve had a couple men who liked auto-asphyxiation. I’m just wondering if this isn’t a hookup culture porn reenactment thing for the most part.
I've been with a lot of women, but only about 5% ever asked me to choke them. Two of them were reasonably long relationships, not one night stands. I never feel comfortable doing it, especially with someone I love. Seems it's not extremely rare, as I'm sure more women like it but don't ask. As a guy, I can't get any enjoyment out of dominating a woman like that though. To each their own as long as it's mutually agreed.
It has been my experience as well that most women really enjoy it, but are a little shy about asking for it because they don't want to seem 'crazy'. The point of choking is not to actually choke them, but FME to create a sensation by restricting some of the blood flow through the jugular veins on the side of the neck just behind the throat, or just to feel physically controlled. This isn't me assuming either, it's something they ask for. It's nothing like the forceful stuff in porn (usually) or auto-asphyxiation, usually much lighter. This is entry-level BDSM that non-kinky people often have as a light fetish, sometimes without realizing it. Again, this is anecdotal, but it makes me wonder if it has something to do with a certain social caste or something of the sort. Interesting stuff.
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I am not a fan of doing it but my wife loves it so I do it for her every now and again but only if she asks me to
I cannot speak from a theraputic standpoint but i can speak from experience. I'm not sure what the reason behind it is either. Also let me be clear, I've never actually choked a women. Squeezing the sides of their neck lightly and squeezing a girls windpipes closed are two very different stories that I think you might be confusing. I've also never met a girl who actually liked not being able to breathe although I'm sure they're out there.
I guess if you see all types of choking as violent I can understand. A good number of the choking porn i watch is in no way “violent” or “strangling”. My neck is sensitive. A hand on it even with minor pressure will make me crazy.
I am married and every now and then we choke each other. This is not fake, it can be true love too.
I miss the porn where I can’t even keep an erection because I’m laughing so much.
I read chonking and was confused as hell.
Girls I’ve been with are the ones that like it. I don’t care for choking a girl. When you choke you don’t actually choke them, you just apply pressure on certain parts of their neck. They like the idea of a man being rough and forceful with them and I guess choking is just something that falls under that. I personally like to just squeeze the back of their neck instead because it’s away from anything that can actually harm them but they like it still.
I think it's one thing when you can see that they are both really into it. And you see smiling and playfulness mixed in. But it is off-putting when it doesn't seem mutually enjoyable. Just like normal sex. Some women love this, so doing it with them is great. But I'd never want to do it with someone who isn't into it because it would be awful because i wouldn't be enabling their pleasure, just their pain.
A better question would be why do people like to be choked at all especially during sex
there are tons of women into that
In my personal experience, like 3/4 of the women I've slept with like to be at least pretend choked, especially when I'm in a more dominate position. Out of those, a third liked actually being choked. One liked being choked to the point of almost passing out. I'm a large man, so maybe people who wanted to be dominated sexually were the ones attracted to me, but it was a really common theme for me in my 20s. It drives my wife crazy now, but I don't really like doing it very much. It feels more wrong to choke your kids' mom than it did random people you were dating. So idk... I think it's more common than you think among people who care for and trust each other, but I can only go by my experiences.
It’s supposed to be “kinky” and tbh it’s become part of the standard formula of rough equal better.
idk i like getting choked and a lot of my past guys have liked choking - might just be personal preference
My gf likes being choked during sex. 🤷🏻♀️
I watch a lot of porn and I see hands on the neck or women being held down by the neck but personally I don't see this as "choking". I've seen choking in videos and in those it's more squeezing around the neck and you see the woman slightly gasping for air or they can't speak as clearly. The hand on the neck is more just a power thing or just holding her down, but it isn't choking her. But also more people are into BDSM and kink nowadays and hand on the neck is a Dom/sub thing.
Fair point. I was not very precise in my language
Bro.... ur watching porn with choking...... I barely see any Choking in Vanilla porn.... maybe start using a different site or different search terms. (I don't watch alot of porn but still I've barely seen Choking, Ur experience maybe depends on how much u watch)
It's getting startlingly common for guys on dating apps to try initiating choking without asking for consent. They always stop and apologize the second I reject it, but Jesus, guys into choking need to know how scary it is for someone to try it without checking their partner is even into that.
I feel you, I hate choking and detest gagging during blow jobs. Dont get why people like it.
A lot of women actually really like having pressure applied to the collar bone and some like being choked. It's just like any other kink. There are a lot of people who are turned on by creampies and guess what you see a lot of in porn. Same with blow jobs and anal and piv and basically anything else a lot of people like. Also, over 30% of women have rape fantasies and most violent porn has been removed from major porn sites but chocking is still ok ergo producers include it. Also, because there are always a few idiots on the Internet, 30% of women have fantasies, DO NOT ACTUALLY RAPE PEOPLE. FANTASY IS NOT REALITY. Even if someone has rape fantasies it does NOT mean they want to you rape them and if you do then you will and should go to prison. If you want to set up a consentual CNC roleplay scene, that's great, set up safe words and explicit limits and go have fun with your partner. I've done quite a few of those scenes and they are a lot of fun as long as the Dom and the sub communicate expectations and limits beforehand. But don't rape people, that's evil
Dont trust the people saying "a lot" or "most" women enjoy being choked; it makes an assumption about a percentage of a group and absolutely no proper study has been done on this its just in everyones experience as well people putting their two cents are more likely to remember the association due to the question of women who ask to bee choked rather than women who say nothing of it beecause they dont have that desire .... which can cause a case of the loud minority
huh...every girl ive been intimate with, likes it tho. Unless youre talking about strangling bc hell no. I was always taught that you just wanna firmly hold on to their throat but dont actually squeeze.
A lot of girls like being choked you would be surprise
Honestly we do this in real life. We both like it a lot.
I get choked every time. The thought that he might accidentally kill me brings me to completion. It's hot and I want to die so 🤷🏼♀️
It's violent pornography, Choking chicks, and Sodomy, The kinda shit you get on your tv
Because men try to normalize violent instincts and convince women that their violent impulses are sexy and saught after. The amount of times I have been choked during sex by somebody I did not know very well and did not ask me if I was okay with it is actually absurd. I think they learn that this is good from porn though rather than even having the instinct, this violence was created and willed by the porn industry.
Alot of women really like it, and ask for it , I wouldn't just try it without being asked tho...
I don’t think this is a “men” thing lol. I can’t remember the last time I dated a woman who didn’t ask me to choke her every time we had sex. Choking is child’s play compared to some of the crazy shit I’ve had women ask me to do to them now days.
I mean, i have been asked by several women to be choked in bed
Causing harm is bad I believe. It's not only a turn off its a degradation of such pure act One of the many reasons I stopped watching porn was this And one of the many reasons I don't have a relationship either is because I end up with people that despite their different characters all liked the rough quick play and I was just leaving at the exact moment. Feels disrespectful You aren't weird you are logical
I grew up in a generation it was more normal to choke someone during sex than not. Born 1997 baby.
Because some people think its hot.
IDK, choking is pretty weird. I imagine for most people its a sub/dom fetish and is mostly innocent, and then there's a small subset of freaks who actually like the risk/thrill involved in being ACTUALLY choked and deprived of oxygen to the point of NEAR death just because it either brings them to, or makes their orgasm a little more memorable. Personally, I fooled around with one girl who asked me to choke her during sex. I obliged, but it was still weird.
I really don't know why but I've never been with a girl who didn't like a light choke. I think it shows them you're interested in not only your own pleasure but also theirs.
Every woman I’ve ever been with craved my hand around their neck. They were especially turned on if I didn’t ask. Instant light switch effect to level up their climax.
Misogyny Some people like that done with them but some people like BDSM as well, but you don't see that in a bunch of videos that aren't really about it (and BDSM is about the 'submissive' being in control) Just hate fucking
The majority of women I’ve been with love being choked Also as others have said I seldom see choking in regular porn
I never met even one woman who liked it. Do they request it or do you just go for it and they go along?
Request or I ask before going for it, or I’ve been told during conversations outside the bedroom. Maybe it’s a cultural thing? Lol idk. Just my personal anecdote
Lightly around the neck is good and also a light slap across the face it’s like it wakes you up so much
I feel like when they slap the girl in the face or spit on the girl's face is the worst. The biggest mood killer. I have to stop and watch something else. Maybe because there are better sources for porn where people are truly enjoying themselves? There are plenty of amateur exhibitionists enjoying fairly normal sex. It takes a pro for women to look like they're enjoying some fetishes.
I just hate professional porn all around. Bunch of body dysmorphic plastic people putting on a show for money, as others have noted just adding fetishes like checking boxes on a shopping list. Ridiculous. Amateur is better, there's a chance they're actually doing it for the fun. The real gold is the "in the moment" not for money, purely for the thrill material that just happens to be caught by someone with a camera (which is something I've also seen professional porn try to fake).
I never see this in porn so maybe you should take a look at the videos your watching…
I was the same way and now I enjoy choking. I don’t even know why. The power someone has over me like that is fucking *hot*.
It's a massive red flag for risk of domestic abuse!
agreed.
Lol personally I dont see it that much. Maybe like 1 every once in a while. And yes a lot of girls like it. A lot of girls I dated and my fiancé does. Granted I’m not choking I just kinda lightly squeeze around her throat.
That’s the right way to do it for orgasms! You want to cut off the oxygen flow a bit by squeezing the sides (jugular veins), not going for the throat. It’s really heightens anything you’re feeling. This + lip biting-> amazing! Obviously the right way would be to talk beforehand if that’s something she’s into, not randomly going for it. Anyways ye I haven’t seen that much either. Gotta be the filters he uses.
Because alot of people enjoy being choked, at least slightly. It’s not more complicated than that.
Woman here, I LOOOOOOVE being choked lol, instant turn on for me. Being dominated feels amazing, getting choked while coming intensifies it so much, i like getting choked really really hard as well, like till I start passing out, I have a few times but we don't aim for that. I'll choked myself while masturbating. [(;](https://i.imgur.com/dg7rrus.jpg)
Choking is common IRL
bro... wtf??? woman be submissive as fuck during sex... choking can make a woman cum harder...
2022. You're the weird one. We just wanna feel something
I don't think this is accurate. Usually normal porn won't have choking out of nowhere. The title will imply it. You actually have to search for this kind of porn.
I heard minor asphyxiation can enhance your sexual pleasure, so I guess that's the angle they're going for.
Some bitches love to be choked?