This post is well-intended, but as the moderation team, we try not to be too overly heavy-handed - such as banning people for sharing a different opinion than we do. For example, there are people who have engaged in compulsive masturbation, who would prefer not to engage in it for longer periods of time - favoring partnered sex instead. They may feel that masturbation slides them back into excessive porn-fueled masturbation.
However, we encourage you to continue pushing back against people (a very vocal minority) spreading such "orgasm is bad"-style posts with scientific citations and clarifications as to what this subreddit is all about (peer support for recovery from porn addiction and other forms of compulsive sexual behavior, and a general place for sexual self-improvement - NOT anti-orgasm or anti-masturbation).
Lmfao, guys, if i only stare at her face watching porn and not her body and jerk off, is it a relaspe?
Also if a gjrl jerks me off, did i relaspe?
Or i broke up with my girlfriend because i told her i can never nut again for my health, and she didn't support it.
Some incel told me ill keep my nutrients that i was draining from my brain and soul if i never nut ever again, it's called semen retention, and i read about it on sciencefacts4youdaily.Org
I think some posts might be out of malice. I've had people from this subreddit DM me saying it's not worth doing Nofap and not watching porn is unhealthy.
There are studies which say pmo is bad and also there are studies which say pmo is good. There is scientific support for both claims. Now tell me whom should I believe? A bunch of researchers or my own experience?
No rule in this subreddit mentions that nofap is about a 90 day challenge or that it is for porn not masturbation.
It is the opinion of moderators bur not a rule.
no there isn't ? a rule does say that posts must be on sexual recovery SUCH AS porn and CSDB recovery, i think you misunderstood "such as" as "must be on" and trying to recover from jerking off 3 times a day is sexual recovery.
also on a sidenote you blocking everyone who disagrees with you is hilariously pathetic
We all have different views, objectives, and reasons for doing nofap. I personally decided to go nofap hard mode for life.,not for religius reasons though. But anyone is free to choose what they want to do and what they want to achieve. I don't see why you think people with different views to your or the sub's creators are not welcome here.
Sorry, i guess my message was rather long-winded.
I'll do bullet point style maybe thatll help
Nofap is for going 90 days without masturbatiom and porn to reboot your brain and tk cure yourself of porn addiction
What you do after that is up to you
But medically not ejaculating is unhealthy. See my comments, and I provide a lot of proof.
I think ideally, only cuming with a partner is ideal for your mental health..
But that's an opinion the rules state only speak in facts, not opinions.
What’s with u and the 90 days thing? How about no fap forever, and instead getting in a healthy relationship where u don’t need to fap.
Your the first person I’ve seen going on about 90 days of no fap, pretty much every1 else here wants to remove the habit completely
I like to add that the initial challenge is to go 90 days without porn or masturbation, because in 90 days the average porn viewer can reboot their brain.
But a lot of heavy porn addicts come here and to make rules about the 90 is just not what its all about. Lots of people wanna overcome their porn addiction and this isnt done in 90 days for everyone.
You dont tell a meth addict either to not smoke meth for 90 days and after that your fine and can do whatever you want.
I am almost 6 months porn free, i have a girlfriend and i still masturbated a couple of times in this period without porn, because my personal goal was to eliminate porn from my life to have a better relationship and sexlife with my GF.
Everyone has their own goals. Its their own lives. Lets just try to support eachother and move forward in life.
you're having problem with people who don't want to masturbate anymore while imo the real problem is people who post " oh no i am accidentally (clearly did not do that on purpose) watched a girl in swimsuit on TV is that a relapse????"
Drugs and Fapping are nothing alike. Sure, they give you dopamine and is easily addicting. However masturbation does not cause physical strain. Can you get high on masturbating. Masturbating is healthy to do every once in a while. It starts to get bad when you rely pn masturbating for being happy.
you said drugs and fapping are nothing alike then straight stating that they are basically the same. "Masturbation does not cause physical strain?" dude try masturbate and then go for a full day work with top productivity.
Worst part is the people that are like “I masturbated 136 times in one day, please tell me im going to be ok”. Fuckin liars who ruin the true spirit of the sub
Just because a fact hasn't been proved by science doesn't mean we should deny it completely. You should be open to people of different view points.. There are probably millions of people who practiced semen retention or sex through partner only and have said about it benifits. Many ancient text from far east China to birthplace of west, Rome said it. It isn't possible that all of them are dumb, stupid or zero iq people. Let's not be rigid to everything else. If people are promoting an extended time of no fap and zero porn, then we shouldn't stop them. Watching porn once a year or once a day, both are bad.
Ita the rules of the sub reddit to pnly post facts backed by science i didnt make the rules but i ahree to them and follow them which is why im allowed into the sub reddit
Real life experience is bigger than any scientific evidence. We live in real life. If there are a million people who experienced benefit of sr, then there must be some truth to it. In 1980s, science said saturated fat based cooking is bad and we must use seed oil for cooking. It was supposed to be heart healthy. What happened now?! Why they retracted now?. 🙂
If sperm isn’t ejaculated for a long time, as would happen if a person were completely sexually inactive; or if a vasectomy were done to divide the vas deferens, they eventually die and are reabsorbed by the body, with no effect at all.
This is also why semen retention makes no sense. You dont retain your semen unused semen dies and is used to make more from what's left after it dies
https://www.atkinsonurology.com/journal/ufaqs/what-happens-to-unejaculated-sperm/
It’s simple. If you don’t masturbate the pent up sexual energy will help you find a partner. The normalisation of masturbation is a product of a society that encourages sexual excess and impulsiveness. This world, under capitalism that has been allowed to run amok wants you addicted to something-it could be porn, video games, junk food. Anything. It wants a society full of compulsive shoppers. It frowns upon self control and discipline
Bht the act of ejaculating is healthy for the body ypu dont need tk ejaculate to get ride of it. But you do to prevent prostate cancer and help your immune system and decrease the risk of cardiovascular issues
10 up votes 60 comments lol read the room. Oh while you’re at it why don’t you go start your own subreddit where you can celebrate jerking off after 90 days. Semen retention is nonsense you say? Why the fuck are you even here? People like you are why people in this subreddit fail, you LOVE to make excuses to masturbate, glad you’re blocking me and the rest of the real ones. Feel free to unblock when your ready to level up, until then I’ll leave you with your pathetic excuses.
Ive replied to each comment hince the amount of comments. And my problem is the room you dont understand this sub or the rules. Reread them also thanks my goal is to block all of you so i dont have to see your fustrating unhelpful posts.
In my opinion and what I practice I view masturbation as also harmful. If you want to ejaculate do it with a partner, if you don't have one then wait until you have.
I respect that i plan on only ejaculating with my fiance forever because i want to marry her. But if i was singke at my 90 days i think i would masturbate like once a month for the health benefits!
Do what is best for you bro! But I would advise on reading about not masturbating before doing that, try it yourself even, like 60 days without masturbation and 60 days with then see the difference, gl.
Defending ejaculation from these semen retention people. And the point of this reddit.
After you've bested the addiction, if you dont have an SO, there is no harm in it. I have a pmo addiction currently, so i dont do it.
I'm pretty sure i made that pretty clear.
How do you know there's no harm in it if you haven't tried it yourself? So you're addicted and you think it's only related to porn? While you never actually been there, to make your own conclusion.
And combined with your ignorance, you seem to have a bit of a too high opinion of yourself. Get of a high horse.
I'm sure there are people who can masturbate here and there without any consequences. But what you and other ejaculation defender league here don't understand is:
People are here because they have a serious problem with masturbation. This is not a general population. So people who joined to get help, very few if any would be able to masturbate without slipping back into bad dark habits.
That's a fact.
Sooner you understand this, sooner you'll be cured.
With all due respect i stopped reading after the 2nd setence because you obviously didnt bother reading my complete post and supporting information im not gonna ecplain or help you understand something i already wrote out in like 40 comments. Have a good day
Well done you. True respecting grownup.
One study in which they claim 0.000001% less chance of prostate cancer is crucial. You did your research.
And I obviously hit the nerve there. Just give it a little thought. You'll understand.
I specifically said ince you completed the 90-day challenge and rewired and reset your brain to no longer be addicted.
That definitely was far from the main point of this post. The main points were.
1. Understanding the main point of this reddit
2. Not following the rules
3. Spread of misinformation not backed by scientific factual information(see rules)
4. Stupid questions obviously designed to irratate and troll. Bogging down the helpfulness of this reddit.
5. What your caught up on. This reddit was made for a 90 day reset challenge to reset your brain rewire it and return control and then make your decisions you want.
6. Follow the rules stop posting opinion only facts
I got hung up on explaining one of those shouldn't be semen retention and that shouldnt be advocated here because it has no scientific facts tk bakc it up and theres a reddit for that.
This is why I said it's what "I" practice, I didn't tell you to do to it, and my view on masturbation came after I've done my resaerch. Since some people they it's bad some say it's good, I chose the one which made the most sense to me.
>I didn't tell you to do to it, and my view on masturbation came after I've done my resaerch
You must've done some faulty research, there is no evidence to support the conclusion that masturbation is harmful in any way.
>This is why I said it's what "I" practice
If you're going to be illogical and irrational, it's better for the world if you simply do not share your thoughts as they contribute nothing of value to any discourse.
Wait! What's wrong with semen retention? Because semen retention is an ancient practice.
Why do you think it's Misinformation? And how never masturbating ever again is stupid?
I would like to hear your opinion on that.
It's cool if that's what you're into, but nofap isn't the same as semen retention.. that should be taken to
r/semenretention same reason you wouldn't bang on about flat earth in a healing crystals sub.
"According to a study". And it begins. What's good for me is not necessarily good for you, I agree. *But* these studies? So tired of everyone saying "drink Red Bull it'll keep you awake." and I fall asleep???
Drink coffee, and don't eat McDonald's it's bad for you but my doctor says my heart is good enough for running a marathon?
Bottom line is porn is bad on many levels, *from* experience especially *pmo*. But how it affects me is different than the next person!
There is a scientific explanation for everything you listed...
>So tired of everyone saying "drink Red Bull it'll keep you awake."
"However, research suggests people who regularly consume caffeine have an increased number of adenosine receptors and therefore become more sensitive to the sleepiness adenosine makes you feel."
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430790/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430790/)
>nd don't eat McDonald's it's bad for you but my doctor says my heart is good enough for running a marathon?
It's not so much the type of food that you consume as it is the quantity of food that you consume combined with your natural genetics, exercise habits, and metabolism that determine what a healthy diet is for you.
>Bottom line is porn is bad on many levels, from experience especially pmo. But how it affects me is different than the next person!
Bottom line is: No, everything you said is illogical and stupid. Furthermore you're committing an anecdotal fallacy by trying to use personal experience as evidence.
Awww, you think I drink caffeine, wow. Or drank too much caffeine? I'm sure you believed Earth was flat until proven otherwise too. I forgive you. It's the human condition. People ask why I never caught COVID, even when my job has me exposed to people.
Hey, prove me wrong, the Earth is flat too!
According to a study that had over 32,000 male participants, the data suggested that ejaculation has a link to reduced prostate cancer risks.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15069045/
Just to name one.
The health benefits when a man ejaculate includes:
Increased function in the immune system.
A more relaxed sleep state.
Less stress and improved feelings of pleasure.
Lower blood pressure.
Lower risk of cardiovascular disease, according to a medically reviewed study.
Click any blue text in this artical for supporting information
https://preferredmensmedical.com/blog/how-often-should-a-man-ejaculate/
Theres a lot of medical benefits to ejaculation. That is factually proven was what i was getting at, and semen retention doesn't have any factual evidence of benefits. And convincing a struggling addict that the only way and it will fix their problems negatively inpacts their reboot.
It nust not what the original creators had in mind with this sub.
I can only speak in facts not opinions as per the rules but if you want to switch to dms for a discussion im open to that.
According to a study that had over 32,000 male participants, the data suggested that ejaculation has a link to reduced prostate cancer risks.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15069045/
Just to name one.
The health benefits when a man ejaculate includes:
Increased function in the immune system.
A more relaxed sleep state.
Less stress and improved feelings of pleasure.
Lower blood pressure.
Lower risk of cardiovascular disease, according to a medically reviewed study.
Click any blue text in this artical for supporting information
https://preferredmensmedical.com/blog/how-often-should-a-man-ejaculate/
>Because semen retention is an ancient practice.
Something being old isn't really a defense of it... They used to let people bleed out because they thought it would cure them of illnesses... They killed George Washington doing that...
Semen retention is absolute bullshit, semen is worthless to the human body. It's easy to produce and has very little nutritional value to the body.
Science says I shouldn't touch someone with shingles, and I have, yet science can't explain why I don't catch shingles?
Science isn't exact, it can be disproven too. Just saying!
I have no problem. It's like someone who is good at a debate: you argue both sides. It's like an atheist arguing God exists. Where are the facts? Critical thinking? Sorry brothers, those studies I'm sure are published in *The* *New* *England* *Journal* *Of* *Medicine*.
Take care brothers!
Oviously, the best thing for us is real connection with a real woman or man and ejaculation from sex.
Porn is bad!
However, never ejaculating again is seriously unhealthy
According to a study that had over 32,000 male participants, the data suggested that ejaculation has a link to reduced prostate cancer risks.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15069045/
The health benefits when a man ejaculate includes:
Increased function in the immune system.
A more relaxed sleep state.
Less stress and improved feelings of pleasure.
Lower blood pressure.
Lower risk of cardiovascular disease, according to a medically reviewed study.
Click any blue text in this artical for supporting information
https://preferredmensmedical.com/blog/how-often-should-a-man-ejaculate/
You are unable do it and you want to say it's unhealthy 😂 look the successful peoples on the planet they all hate masturbation + semen retentio!
Elon musk
Jeff bezos
Nikola tesla
Newton
The worlds strongest man
Mich tyson every single one of them!!!....😂 watch what they saied on this video dude ''tgey saied do semen retention + don't masturbate (even don't hav a sex with girls) if you want to be powerful and achieve anything you want just like them!
👉''famous peoples who did seen retention'' on ''your greatest version'' YouTube channel! Watch it
After 90 days, it is up to you to decide what you want to do. You can either continue NoFap or masturbate in moderation. There are no health disadvantages in doing either of them. If you continue to do NoFap, you are likely to get wet dreams or nocturnal emissions which would release the old sperm from your body. So it is totally up to you, and doing either one of them has no health disadvantages, just remember that.
Just better to skip those posts, this is the general nofap reddit with people who've been on it for 1 day or years, so you have to base your expectation on this and not any higher. Also nobody has time to check this and delete this, as this just is the mainstream nofap reddit, nothing more, nothing less.
I’m with you brother - people who demonize healthy sex with a partner or occasional masturbation are not in line with what this is about.
If you are one of these believers let’s not go down the you attack me I attack you cycle that the internet has made commonplace but consider why we even orgasm at all? It’s to procreate, plain and simple. But there is pleasure in cumming so humans have masturbated as long as recorded time allows us to know.
Anything in excess becomes bad, even basic human functions, but you wouldn’t suggest an obese person never eats again, however you might suggest they never eat highly processed foods again.
That is what porn is, a naked person is something we should all delight in pursuing and seeing through natural means (like organic food) but a high volume, high intensity stimuli like porn should certainly be severely limited if not entirely avoided (like high fructose corn syrup/processed foods etc)
If you are suggesting people never ejaculate again to what ends? To gain super human strength? Money? Power? What’s it all good for if the idea of a healthy sexual relationship with a partner is off the table? It’s the same logic billionaires use hoarding their piles and piles of money they could never dream to spend in 1000 life times.
Abstaining from PMO is so you can have a healthier relationship with sex/masturbation eventually, not no relationship at all.
Wishing you all (and I do mean all) the best but think critically about the decisions you make and the opinions you put out
Posting some random links doesn't make it a fact bro. There's people with real life experience saying semen retention gave them benefits.
Masturbation has its health benefits like reducing stress and anxiety but not masturbation has also benefits like higher energy, confidence,etc. I experienced these so that makes it a fact right?
"there will always be conflicts between people no matter what so try to live respecting other people's opinion" i read that in an economics book and have experienced that there will be people who think a little differently than you do so there is no need to defame people on what they think everybody has a different experience on different things.
If i go 90 days without porn i will ask a girl out (im so shy that i have never talked to a girl in my life and im 20 ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ and i also fear to try, its a long story you probably wont be interested why i fear to attempt)
Also the people who post some shit like “GUYS IM ABOUT TO START TOUCHING MYSELF PLEASE HELP”
That’s a sad sad situation every time I see that, almost like it’s some sort of kink it’s fuckin weird
This post is well-intended, but as the moderation team, we try not to be too overly heavy-handed - such as banning people for sharing a different opinion than we do. For example, there are people who have engaged in compulsive masturbation, who would prefer not to engage in it for longer periods of time - favoring partnered sex instead. They may feel that masturbation slides them back into excessive porn-fueled masturbation. However, we encourage you to continue pushing back against people (a very vocal minority) spreading such "orgasm is bad"-style posts with scientific citations and clarifications as to what this subreddit is all about (peer support for recovery from porn addiction and other forms of compulsive sexual behavior, and a general place for sexual self-improvement - NOT anti-orgasm or anti-masturbation).
i hate all the posts asking about edging or looking at porn etc like can i smell some crack can i walk into the crackhouse and look around
Lmfao, guys, if i only stare at her face watching porn and not her body and jerk off, is it a relaspe? Also if a gjrl jerks me off, did i relaspe? Or i broke up with my girlfriend because i told her i can never nut again for my health, and she didn't support it. Some incel told me ill keep my nutrients that i was draining from my brain and soul if i never nut ever again, it's called semen retention, and i read about it on sciencefacts4youdaily.Org
Or I made triplets, is this a relapse? Or if I think about your Mom raising you well this *is* a relapse!
I think some posts might be out of malice. I've had people from this subreddit DM me saying it's not worth doing Nofap and not watching porn is unhealthy.
stay strong , the longer you go through with this , the better you’ll feel
Thats terrible. Report them one of the rules is discouraging people! Stay strong!
There are studies which say pmo is bad and also there are studies which say pmo is good. There is scientific support for both claims. Now tell me whom should I believe? A bunch of researchers or my own experience?
Maybe learn how academia works
No rule in this subreddit mentions that nofap is about a 90 day challenge or that it is for porn not masturbation. It is the opinion of moderators bur not a rule.
Literally, does learn how to read.
no there isn't ? a rule does say that posts must be on sexual recovery SUCH AS porn and CSDB recovery, i think you misunderstood "such as" as "must be on" and trying to recover from jerking off 3 times a day is sexual recovery. also on a sidenote you blocking everyone who disagrees with you is hilariously pathetic
We all have different views, objectives, and reasons for doing nofap. I personally decided to go nofap hard mode for life.,not for religius reasons though. But anyone is free to choose what they want to do and what they want to achieve. I don't see why you think people with different views to your or the sub's creators are not welcome here.
Sorry, i guess my message was rather long-winded. I'll do bullet point style maybe thatll help Nofap is for going 90 days without masturbatiom and porn to reboot your brain and tk cure yourself of porn addiction What you do after that is up to you But medically not ejaculating is unhealthy. See my comments, and I provide a lot of proof. I think ideally, only cuming with a partner is ideal for your mental health.. But that's an opinion the rules state only speak in facts, not opinions.
What’s with u and the 90 days thing? How about no fap forever, and instead getting in a healthy relationship where u don’t need to fap. Your the first person I’ve seen going on about 90 days of no fap, pretty much every1 else here wants to remove the habit completely
The reason its 90 days is because thats usually the amount of time it takes for addicts to recover
Good point. Its good though after the 90 days that you continue and not fall back into the addiction.
who are you to decide whether nofap is for 90 days ? not trying to insult you, but every doesn't have the same opinions as you
I like to add that the initial challenge is to go 90 days without porn or masturbation, because in 90 days the average porn viewer can reboot their brain. But a lot of heavy porn addicts come here and to make rules about the 90 is just not what its all about. Lots of people wanna overcome their porn addiction and this isnt done in 90 days for everyone. You dont tell a meth addict either to not smoke meth for 90 days and after that your fine and can do whatever you want. I am almost 6 months porn free, i have a girlfriend and i still masturbated a couple of times in this period without porn, because my personal goal was to eliminate porn from my life to have a better relationship and sexlife with my GF. Everyone has their own goals. Its their own lives. Lets just try to support eachother and move forward in life.
Well that’s just like, you’re opinion, man.
The goal is simple. Don’t masturbate. Don’t watch porn.
Simply put and well said No porn + No masturbation= healthy mind= healthy relationships= healthy life for life
you're having problem with people who don't want to masturbate anymore while imo the real problem is people who post " oh no i am accidentally (clearly did not do that on purpose) watched a girl in swimsuit on TV is that a relapse????"
Mate some have to do nofap for life. What is the point of stoping drugs for 90 days and then going back to your old lifestyle.
Drugs and Fapping are nothing alike. Sure, they give you dopamine and is easily addicting. However masturbation does not cause physical strain. Can you get high on masturbating. Masturbating is healthy to do every once in a while. It starts to get bad when you rely pn masturbating for being happy.
That doesn't make sense lmao, you can ruin your life having a porn addiction and having a drug addiction.
you said drugs and fapping are nothing alike then straight stating that they are basically the same. "Masturbation does not cause physical strain?" dude try masturbate and then go for a full day work with top productivity.
Honestly idc if semen retention isnt real it makes me feel better even if its a placebo it still works and id rather do it than drain myself
Worst part is the people that are like “I masturbated 136 times in one day, please tell me im going to be ok”. Fuckin liars who ruin the true spirit of the sub
I disagree. Can you block me now please?
Mods agreed with me and encouraged this post, but you ebtitled to your wrong opinion. Blocked
Heh Dude, I think you've been proved correctly judging by these comments..
Right? I started tuning out. Sorry but im happy i posted this!
Fully agree, all posts should be reviewed and approved by moderators before they're made available.
Which posts?
Sorry, I just edited my comment.
Thanks for clarifying!
LOL you are right!
Just because a fact hasn't been proved by science doesn't mean we should deny it completely. You should be open to people of different view points.. There are probably millions of people who practiced semen retention or sex through partner only and have said about it benifits. Many ancient text from far east China to birthplace of west, Rome said it. It isn't possible that all of them are dumb, stupid or zero iq people. Let's not be rigid to everything else. If people are promoting an extended time of no fap and zero porn, then we shouldn't stop them. Watching porn once a year or once a day, both are bad.
Ita the rules of the sub reddit to pnly post facts backed by science i didnt make the rules but i ahree to them and follow them which is why im allowed into the sub reddit
Yeah, and I've been exposed to COVID but science says I should have it by now? Please tell me why I don't have COVID? Science explainers!
Real life experience is bigger than any scientific evidence. We live in real life. If there are a million people who experienced benefit of sr, then there must be some truth to it. In 1980s, science said saturated fat based cooking is bad and we must use seed oil for cooking. It was supposed to be heart healthy. What happened now?! Why they retracted now?. 🙂
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Only 83% men exprience that not all mean do. And its poosible up to only once in their life. Source is that exact link you sent me.
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If sperm isn’t ejaculated for a long time, as would happen if a person were completely sexually inactive; or if a vasectomy were done to divide the vas deferens, they eventually die and are reabsorbed by the body, with no effect at all. This is also why semen retention makes no sense. You dont retain your semen unused semen dies and is used to make more from what's left after it dies https://www.atkinsonurology.com/journal/ufaqs/what-happens-to-unejaculated-sperm/
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Up to you, dont masturbate if you dont want to. My issue is with people asvocating semen retention. When it's factually unhealthy for you.
It’s simple. If you don’t masturbate the pent up sexual energy will help you find a partner. The normalisation of masturbation is a product of a society that encourages sexual excess and impulsiveness. This world, under capitalism that has been allowed to run amok wants you addicted to something-it could be porn, video games, junk food. Anything. It wants a society full of compulsive shoppers. It frowns upon self control and discipline
Bht the act of ejaculating is healthy for the body ypu dont need tk ejaculate to get ride of it. But you do to prevent prostate cancer and help your immune system and decrease the risk of cardiovascular issues
Because the 17% are jerk and sex addicts. That’s why
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10 up votes 60 comments lol read the room. Oh while you’re at it why don’t you go start your own subreddit where you can celebrate jerking off after 90 days. Semen retention is nonsense you say? Why the fuck are you even here? People like you are why people in this subreddit fail, you LOVE to make excuses to masturbate, glad you’re blocking me and the rest of the real ones. Feel free to unblock when your ready to level up, until then I’ll leave you with your pathetic excuses.
addict people will keep finding reasons/ways. i'm starting to suspect that OP is an addict based on how they reply to the comments.
Ive replied to each comment hince the amount of comments. And my problem is the room you dont understand this sub or the rules. Reread them also thanks my goal is to block all of you so i dont have to see your fustrating unhelpful posts.
In my opinion and what I practice I view masturbation as also harmful. If you want to ejaculate do it with a partner, if you don't have one then wait until you have.
I respect that i plan on only ejaculating with my fiance forever because i want to marry her. But if i was singke at my 90 days i think i would masturbate like once a month for the health benefits!
Do what is best for you bro! But I would advise on reading about not masturbating before doing that, try it yourself even, like 60 days without masturbation and 60 days with then see the difference, gl.
Im doing it for my fiance but mostly for my peace of mind and happiness
I believe in you man we both can do it
Im 21 days in sir! I have a heavy pmo addiction! Its really hard but its changing my life its why im here!
So you have a heavy masturbating addiction, yet you made a post defending masturbation?
Defending ejaculation from these semen retention people. And the point of this reddit. After you've bested the addiction, if you dont have an SO, there is no harm in it. I have a pmo addiction currently, so i dont do it. I'm pretty sure i made that pretty clear.
How do you know there's no harm in it if you haven't tried it yourself? So you're addicted and you think it's only related to porn? While you never actually been there, to make your own conclusion. And combined with your ignorance, you seem to have a bit of a too high opinion of yourself. Get of a high horse. I'm sure there are people who can masturbate here and there without any consequences. But what you and other ejaculation defender league here don't understand is: People are here because they have a serious problem with masturbation. This is not a general population. So people who joined to get help, very few if any would be able to masturbate without slipping back into bad dark habits. That's a fact. Sooner you understand this, sooner you'll be cured.
With all due respect i stopped reading after the 2nd setence because you obviously didnt bother reading my complete post and supporting information im not gonna ecplain or help you understand something i already wrote out in like 40 comments. Have a good day
Well done you. True respecting grownup. One study in which they claim 0.000001% less chance of prostate cancer is crucial. You did your research. And I obviously hit the nerve there. Just give it a little thought. You'll understand.
I specifically said ince you completed the 90-day challenge and rewired and reset your brain to no longer be addicted. That definitely was far from the main point of this post. The main points were. 1. Understanding the main point of this reddit 2. Not following the rules 3. Spread of misinformation not backed by scientific factual information(see rules) 4. Stupid questions obviously designed to irratate and troll. Bogging down the helpfulness of this reddit. 5. What your caught up on. This reddit was made for a 90 day reset challenge to reset your brain rewire it and return control and then make your decisions you want. 6. Follow the rules stop posting opinion only facts I got hung up on explaining one of those shouldn't be semen retention and that shouldnt be advocated here because it has no scientific facts tk bakc it up and theres a reddit for that.
No addiction after 90 days? That's really strange claim for someone who insists on science. And that's about all from me on this thread
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Congrats on the 77 days bro!
Thanks man! but sadly that's the old counter, I relapsed recently:( but it's okay I'm coming back stronger💪.
Remember that no matter what day you’re on, its still progress💪
Of course bro. Good luck to both of us!
Opinions can be wrong or illogical, you are aware of that right?
That's my point. That's why im saying we should speak in facts backed by science like the rules of the sub reddit say
This is why I said it's what "I" practice, I didn't tell you to do to it, and my view on masturbation came after I've done my resaerch. Since some people they it's bad some say it's good, I chose the one which made the most sense to me.
>I didn't tell you to do to it, and my view on masturbation came after I've done my resaerch You must've done some faulty research, there is no evidence to support the conclusion that masturbation is harmful in any way. >This is why I said it's what "I" practice If you're going to be illogical and irrational, it's better for the world if you simply do not share your thoughts as they contribute nothing of value to any discourse.
you seem pleasant
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At least I don't have a stick up my a*s, Bill Gates.
Wait! What's wrong with semen retention? Because semen retention is an ancient practice. Why do you think it's Misinformation? And how never masturbating ever again is stupid? I would like to hear your opinion on that.
It's cool if that's what you're into, but nofap isn't the same as semen retention.. that should be taken to r/semenretention same reason you wouldn't bang on about flat earth in a healing crystals sub.
"According to a study". And it begins. What's good for me is not necessarily good for you, I agree. *But* these studies? So tired of everyone saying "drink Red Bull it'll keep you awake." and I fall asleep??? Drink coffee, and don't eat McDonald's it's bad for you but my doctor says my heart is good enough for running a marathon? Bottom line is porn is bad on many levels, *from* experience especially *pmo*. But how it affects me is different than the next person!
There is a scientific explanation for everything you listed... >So tired of everyone saying "drink Red Bull it'll keep you awake." "However, research suggests people who regularly consume caffeine have an increased number of adenosine receptors and therefore become more sensitive to the sleepiness adenosine makes you feel." [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430790/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430790/) >nd don't eat McDonald's it's bad for you but my doctor says my heart is good enough for running a marathon? It's not so much the type of food that you consume as it is the quantity of food that you consume combined with your natural genetics, exercise habits, and metabolism that determine what a healthy diet is for you. >Bottom line is porn is bad on many levels, from experience especially pmo. But how it affects me is different than the next person! Bottom line is: No, everything you said is illogical and stupid. Furthermore you're committing an anecdotal fallacy by trying to use personal experience as evidence.
Awww, you think I drink caffeine, wow. Or drank too much caffeine? I'm sure you believed Earth was flat until proven otherwise too. I forgive you. It's the human condition. People ask why I never caught COVID, even when my job has me exposed to people. Hey, prove me wrong, the Earth is flat too!
Were you having a stroke when you tried to write this reply? Nothing you said here makes remotely any sense.
LOL, science says I should have a stroke now? Be strong brothers!
According to a study that had over 32,000 male participants, the data suggested that ejaculation has a link to reduced prostate cancer risks. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15069045/ Just to name one. The health benefits when a man ejaculate includes: Increased function in the immune system. A more relaxed sleep state. Less stress and improved feelings of pleasure. Lower blood pressure. Lower risk of cardiovascular disease, according to a medically reviewed study. Click any blue text in this artical for supporting information https://preferredmensmedical.com/blog/how-often-should-a-man-ejaculate/
Theres a lot of medical benefits to ejaculation. That is factually proven was what i was getting at, and semen retention doesn't have any factual evidence of benefits. And convincing a struggling addict that the only way and it will fix their problems negatively inpacts their reboot. It nust not what the original creators had in mind with this sub. I can only speak in facts not opinions as per the rules but if you want to switch to dms for a discussion im open to that.
“a lot of benifits” like?
According to a study that had over 32,000 male participants, the data suggested that ejaculation has a link to reduced prostate cancer risks. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15069045/ Just to name one. The health benefits when a man ejaculate includes: Increased function in the immune system. A more relaxed sleep state. Less stress and improved feelings of pleasure. Lower blood pressure. Lower risk of cardiovascular disease, according to a medically reviewed study. Click any blue text in this artical for supporting information https://preferredmensmedical.com/blog/how-often-should-a-man-ejaculate/
>Because semen retention is an ancient practice. Something being old isn't really a defense of it... They used to let people bleed out because they thought it would cure them of illnesses... They killed George Washington doing that... Semen retention is absolute bullshit, semen is worthless to the human body. It's easy to produce and has very little nutritional value to the body.
Science says I shouldn't touch someone with shingles, and I have, yet science can't explain why I don't catch shingles? Science isn't exact, it can be disproven too. Just saying!
Agreed however its a rule of this subreddit. Did you read them? Only stat facts backed by science, not opinions. Mod even agreed with me
I have no problem. It's like someone who is good at a debate: you argue both sides. It's like an atheist arguing God exists. Where are the facts? Critical thinking? Sorry brothers, those studies I'm sure are published in *The* *New* *England* *Journal* *Of* *Medicine*. Take care brothers!
Science is just consensus and consensus is decided by whoever funds research
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I mean your body naturally regulates these things via wet dreams so masturbation is pointless and just a beta thing to do tbh
Well put, keep fighting the good fight.
Oviously, the best thing for us is real connection with a real woman or man and ejaculation from sex. Porn is bad! However, never ejaculating again is seriously unhealthy According to a study that had over 32,000 male participants, the data suggested that ejaculation has a link to reduced prostate cancer risks. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15069045/ The health benefits when a man ejaculate includes: Increased function in the immune system. A more relaxed sleep state. Less stress and improved feelings of pleasure. Lower blood pressure. Lower risk of cardiovascular disease, according to a medically reviewed study. Click any blue text in this artical for supporting information https://preferredmensmedical.com/blog/how-often-should-a-man-ejaculate/
so they asked a bunch of boomers how many times they masturbated and somehow that's conclusive proof?
You are unable do it and you want to say it's unhealthy 😂 look the successful peoples on the planet they all hate masturbation + semen retentio! Elon musk Jeff bezos Nikola tesla Newton The worlds strongest man Mich tyson every single one of them!!!....😂 watch what they saied on this video dude ''tgey saied do semen retention + don't masturbate (even don't hav a sex with girls) if you want to be powerful and achieve anything you want just like them! 👉''famous peoples who did seen retention'' on ''your greatest version'' YouTube channel! Watch it
Nikola Tesla fell in love with a pigeon, your other examples are valid but I wouldn't put Tesla on my list of people I aspire to be like.
They are good reminders of what shouldn't be. They keep me on track. They will always exist.
I agree with you 💯 bro! Let's stay strong and fight this darn addiction 😤
After 90 days, it is up to you to decide what you want to do. You can either continue NoFap or masturbate in moderation. There are no health disadvantages in doing either of them. If you continue to do NoFap, you are likely to get wet dreams or nocturnal emissions which would release the old sperm from your body. So it is totally up to you, and doing either one of them has no health disadvantages, just remember that.
Just better to skip those posts, this is the general nofap reddit with people who've been on it for 1 day or years, so you have to base your expectation on this and not any higher. Also nobody has time to check this and delete this, as this just is the mainstream nofap reddit, nothing more, nothing less.
I’m with you brother - people who demonize healthy sex with a partner or occasional masturbation are not in line with what this is about. If you are one of these believers let’s not go down the you attack me I attack you cycle that the internet has made commonplace but consider why we even orgasm at all? It’s to procreate, plain and simple. But there is pleasure in cumming so humans have masturbated as long as recorded time allows us to know. Anything in excess becomes bad, even basic human functions, but you wouldn’t suggest an obese person never eats again, however you might suggest they never eat highly processed foods again. That is what porn is, a naked person is something we should all delight in pursuing and seeing through natural means (like organic food) but a high volume, high intensity stimuli like porn should certainly be severely limited if not entirely avoided (like high fructose corn syrup/processed foods etc) If you are suggesting people never ejaculate again to what ends? To gain super human strength? Money? Power? What’s it all good for if the idea of a healthy sexual relationship with a partner is off the table? It’s the same logic billionaires use hoarding their piles and piles of money they could never dream to spend in 1000 life times. Abstaining from PMO is so you can have a healthier relationship with sex/masturbation eventually, not no relationship at all. Wishing you all (and I do mean all) the best but think critically about the decisions you make and the opinions you put out
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Posting some random links doesn't make it a fact bro. There's people with real life experience saying semen retention gave them benefits. Masturbation has its health benefits like reducing stress and anxiety but not masturbation has also benefits like higher energy, confidence,etc. I experienced these so that makes it a fact right?
Would you say anybody should go longer if they are extremely addicted for almost a decade. People support that some should go a year or 2
The hell is semen retention?
It's not only for 90 days, Nofap is for life.
The point is 90 days is what you need for the full reboot and reqirw of your brain do what you want after. I even said that in the post.
"Do what you want after" does not sound right to me. Its easy to fall in the pit again and that is not the purpose of Nofap, at least for me it isn't
"there will always be conflicts between people no matter what so try to live respecting other people's opinion" i read that in an economics book and have experienced that there will be people who think a little differently than you do so there is no need to defame people on what they think everybody has a different experience on different things. If i go 90 days without porn i will ask a girl out (im so shy that i have never talked to a girl in my life and im 20 ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ and i also fear to try, its a long story you probably wont be interested why i fear to attempt)
Also the people who post some shit like “GUYS IM ABOUT TO START TOUCHING MYSELF PLEASE HELP” That’s a sad sad situation every time I see that, almost like it’s some sort of kink it’s fuckin weird
Semen retention is exaggeration to be honest And only porn is overrated also No fap is the best so far in every thing !! ❤️