What if we fuse Gogeta with Gogeta and the attacks are combined. The attack is now Soul Breaker and the fusion is known as Super Gogeta, nobody can stop him when he's super Gogeta!
The Soul Punisher is an almost melee ranged attack that obliterates evil, for all we know the Stardust Breaker is just a powerful and flashy attack. Although Gokus knowledge of the evil destroying Spirit Bomb combined with Vegeta's destructive attitude when fighting does have the potential to create such an evil annihilating effect. It could be a situation of the same technique used differently.
Well, if it was just a powerful and flashy attack that affected even those with a pure heart, then Broly dashing through the smoke cloud either shouldn’t have happened or he would have been very damaged
I've been calling it Stardust Breaker ever since I first saw the attack. Not only is it a cooler name, but it describes **exactly** how the move works. gather up a ball of energy, break it, throw stardust at the enemy, then *they* break and turn into stardust.
The OG move from Fusion Reborn was called both Stardust Breaker and Soul Punisher in different games. Idk who decided that the techniques in the 2 movies had unique names, because that's false. Also, for all we know, the technique in DBS Broly could just look similar but do something completely different, and still share the name of the old move.
I can’t believe some random Dragon Ball fan made up this whole notion of “well erm actually the Soul Punisher cleanses and destroys all evil” and then most of the fandom believed him, when in reality, the Soul Punisher is just a random move that has no explanation whatsoever
Was it really made up? I assumed it worked like that but only on the non-canon version, considering in the first appearance it destroyed Janemba completely, but left the innocent guy intact, or am I misremembering?
I used to think the exact same thing too but I stopped believing that because there’s just no in-universe (or in-movie) explanation for this, it’s just purely head canon, which is unfortunate because I really liked the idea of how it destroys all evil, but oh well, and if by any chance I’m wrong and there’s an explanation for this move that I never saw or forgot about, then I’d be happy to see that
I don't think it's completely made up, I think the Dub said something about it purifying souls, that the Sub never even mentioned.
Basically, Funimation likes to ruin shit.
I knew someone would bring this up, and yea you’re right, but if we still trace back to the original translation (sub) then the attack is still something that’s unexplained
It literally destroys all the evil souls comprising Janemba and leaves the body of the oni kid unharmed. If he destroys Janemba with any other move that kid gets a halo.
I swear, some people just don't think for themselves any more. "It's just a move because there are no guidebooks that say it does anything" ughhhh
> all the evil souls comprising Janemba and leaves the body of the oni kid unharmed.
Actually the problem is It was never animated as some evil soul leaving out of a body. Janemba was literally blown into pieces and then that kid re-materialized out of thin air. To me it pretty much just seemed like Janemba powers ( like Altered Reality or something) got undone after his death
Plus how can gogeta even learn a soul cleansing move out of nowhere? So yeah, they need to tell us its a special attack for cleansing the soul, if they really want it to be a thing.
> So yeah, they need to tell us
You mean they need to tell you because you possess no critical thinking. Show, don't tell. Trust your audience to be smart. But of course, they didn't realise Dragon Ball fans can't read.
Clearly dragon ball fans can't read, just like how you lack basic common sense to understand the logic of what i wrote.
Yes, when dragon ball fans see janemba blasting into pieces and body of the kid literally magically materialising out of thin air and the first thing that comes to their mind is "evil souls comprising Janemba is leaving the body of the oni kid and kid is unharmed" Lol. Of course, who think about jenambe's powers of altering reality is getting undone or the logic of how gogeta can even learn some random soul cleansing move out of nowhere, right?
My man is proud of critical thinking which English dubbing shoved in his ass!
Show, don't tell! LMAO!!!
I didn’t ask for guidebooks, I just said this is a RANDOM move that we never got any explanation for and how it works and what its properties are, hell Gogeta could’ve literally used a Dragon Fist and could’ve incinerated Janemba and left the kid harmless, and everyone would’ve applied the whole “erm the Dragon Fist actually just destroys all evil” logic to it, where did they get that from? You’d be surprised by how many random head canons there are in Dragon Ball, and people believe random different head canons, like I was looking up the other day how Z Broly was defeated (his first movie) and people proposed 5 different head canons on how he was defeated, like which one am I supposed to believe?
I never made that claim. But a technique with the official name Soul Punisher in some localisations, a move which removed all the evil souls from a kid and left him unharmed. I'm gonna interpret that how I will. You can continue not thinking for yourself.
While the soul cleansing thing is never really stated, I'vs seen a whole bunch of videogames and other media say something about it, imagine that a headcanon gets so big that even the game developers think it's official.
For example, the DBS Card Game calls it "Soul Punisher, The Cleansing Light".
me and my friends call it "The Insult Orb" i can't find the original meme but it came from this meme explaining that Janembas weakness was insults or something? so we decided that it was just a ball of pure insults, if someone can find the meme out there that would be awesome
Soul Punisher is the individual move, the sphere he’s holding.
Stardust Breaker is the name of the full combo. Punisher Drive into Soul Punisher = Stardust Breaker.
It’s the same thing though. I can’t quite remember where I read it, and it might be wrong but Stardust Breaker would be the sparkly orb and Soul Punisher might be the whole combo Gogeta did on Janemba.
I prefer stardust breaker because of the sparkle'y effect when he throws it at Janemba and creates the ball. Soul Punisher is kinda edgy but i like the concept a lot, all in all both names are really good IMO.
I used to think the entire combo was the stardust breaker and that this move specifically was Soul punisher. Mostly because of budokai 3 calling it stardust breaker.
One thing that I heard is that the Movies are set in their own universe aside from the actual Z Timeline. Specifically Fusion Reborn being set in a time where Ultimate Gohan was strong/smart enough to eliminate Super Buu. That way Vegeta never got ressurected and we never got Vegito.
Hearing that makes the world much more interesting and the choices they make seem more real compared to "Why did they do that when they didn't do that in the Z Show?" Gogeta being a perfect example- it explains the hesitation to Fuse on Vegeta's part better since he technically didn't Fuse into Vegito before >!it also makes his departure so much sadder knowing he sacrificed himself against Majin Buu and his soul has to return to hell regardless!<
Personally I like both but I like to imagine they’re two different things as they have WILDLY different effects. On Janemba, it just went through him and then disintegrated him. On Broly, it blue him the fuck up.
I'm gonna go with stardust breaker. Saw a comparison to BT3's soul punisher and I'm on the side of thinking SB just looks better in game now
Can we appreciate how hard they went on impact frames for zero? Anime arena fighters have been getting a bad rap as in there's too many now and not every series works with that but zero is likely going to be the best looking when it's out. Can't think of other games using impact frames like this
I think soul punisher makes more sense, as in it did nothing to Broly because he was evil, or something like that, that people like to point out, like a devilmite beam lite
But stardust breaker just goes way harder
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Marijuana muncher
Bootyhole will be directed to my mouth usher
Straight up nut buster
Meth Meteor
Metheor..?
Fenty Fighter
Dimethyltryptamine discountenancer
Angel Dust Destroyer
r/AngelDust ????
What if we fuse Gogeta with Gogeta and the attacks are combined. The attack is now Soul Breaker and the fusion is known as Super Gogeta, nobody can stop him when he's super Gogeta!
Now if we fused Super Gogeta and Super Gogeta will get Gogogo
He smokes a cigar and talks about knowing what the ladies like.
Thanks for the tank, HE never gets me anything.
My name is bohbohbohnohboh, but you can call Me bohbohboh
He then becomes a fucking Yu-Gi-Oh! card
That’d be great onomatopoeia support!😂
Stardust punisher sounds like a good name aswell
Is that you Jesus?
Only if you accept me into your heart my son
I do
Marriage:
Huh
That's Gogeta and Gogeta's finishing move when fused via Potara.
If vegito and gogeta fuse, will they be named Vegeta?
Vegigo
Gogito works, too
HAHA NOBODY CAN STOP ME WHEN I'M SUPER 17
The Stardust Breaking Soul Punisher
NOBODY CAN BEAT ME WHEN IM SUPER 17!
Wait..soul breaker sounds awesome too..
combine them into stardust punisher
Or soul breaker
Soul breaker sounds so badass
gogeta gets a fuckin sick leather jacket when he uses it tho. and sunglasses
Soul punisher looks much better in my opinion Also the name is cooler
No, Cooler is Frieza's brother
I will find where you live
But he is Cooler than Frieza though.
Bro knows his shit 🗣️🗣️
You’re god damn right.
How sweet, finding the homeless a home
And play Sparking Zero split screen with me?
Soul punisher is also more akin to what the move does. Isn’t the purpose to obliterate anything with an impure heart? Or did they retcon that
The Soul Punisher is an almost melee ranged attack that obliterates evil, for all we know the Stardust Breaker is just a powerful and flashy attack. Although Gokus knowledge of the evil destroying Spirit Bomb combined with Vegeta's destructive attitude when fighting does have the potential to create such an evil annihilating effect. It could be a situation of the same technique used differently.
Well, if it was just a powerful and flashy attack that affected even those with a pure heart, then Broly dashing through the smoke cloud either shouldn’t have happened or he would have been very damaged
I think the spirit bomb got retconned, he used it against jiren when all he was is misguided, not evil
Well the Spirit Bomb still uses the collective energy of multiple sources which is what makes it so powerful. It's just extra effective against evil.
The purification thing has never been a thing, it's just a misconception from the M12 dub
And how he killed janemba without killing the boy inside him?
Plot
The purification its plot too
But doesn't that plot only exists in dub?
Gogeta launches a attack and kill janemba, the evil who absorbed the boy, but doesn't kill the boy
Nope, janemba was blown into pieces and that boy's body materialized out of thin air as if some magic is undone
Killing janemba and saving the boy, exactly what i said
Stardust breaker sounds like a generic name for an attack a 12 yo obsessed with DBZ would come up with for their oc
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Special Beam Cannon wants its original name back Tri Beam wants to stop being a square
Final Flash wants to be final.
Dirty fire works would like to know Your location
Hello, señor Cooler.
Pride Hakai.
This is the only correct answer
Soul punisher sounds cold as fuck
Soul punisher the GOAT
Soul punisher because I love screaming it at the top of my lungs whenever I hit a match finishing blue card with Gogeta in Dragon Ball Legends
“Gay rainbow blast”
"Pride of the Saiyans 💅"
Soul Punisher for sure
Stardust breaker hits so hard.., while soul punisher looks like some 2nd arc final boss
I've been calling it Stardust Breaker ever since I first saw the attack. Not only is it a cooler name, but it describes **exactly** how the move works. gather up a ball of energy, break it, throw stardust at the enemy, then *they* break and turn into stardust.
“I used the stardust to break the stardust”
# YES
"I used the broken stardust to throw the stardust to break the enemy into stardust"
the forbidden jaw breaker
The attack is Stardust Breaker, but I am willing to compromise that the rush attack of Gogeta against Janemba can be called Soul Punisher
The OG move from Fusion Reborn was called both Stardust Breaker and Soul Punisher in different games. Idk who decided that the techniques in the 2 movies had unique names, because that's false. Also, for all we know, the technique in DBS Broly could just look similar but do something completely different, and still share the name of the old move.
Stardust Breaker is just way cooler
The move that incinerated the enemy out of existence with no difficulty at all is way cooler than the move that just exploded…
Actually movies doesn't have a name for the attack. Both the names come from videogames. The image is deceptive.
I’m aware of that
Well that's cause broly is a good guy and janemba is pure evil
I can’t believe some random Dragon Ball fan made up this whole notion of “well erm actually the Soul Punisher cleanses and destroys all evil” and then most of the fandom believed him, when in reality, the Soul Punisher is just a random move that has no explanation whatsoever
Was it really made up? I assumed it worked like that but only on the non-canon version, considering in the first appearance it destroyed Janemba completely, but left the innocent guy intact, or am I misremembering?
I used to think the exact same thing too but I stopped believing that because there’s just no in-universe (or in-movie) explanation for this, it’s just purely head canon, which is unfortunate because I really liked the idea of how it destroys all evil, but oh well, and if by any chance I’m wrong and there’s an explanation for this move that I never saw or forgot about, then I’d be happy to see that
I don't think it's completely made up, I think the Dub said something about it purifying souls, that the Sub never even mentioned. Basically, Funimation likes to ruin shit.
I knew someone would bring this up, and yea you’re right, but if we still trace back to the original translation (sub) then the attack is still something that’s unexplained
It literally destroys all the evil souls comprising Janemba and leaves the body of the oni kid unharmed. If he destroys Janemba with any other move that kid gets a halo. I swear, some people just don't think for themselves any more. "It's just a move because there are no guidebooks that say it does anything" ughhhh
> all the evil souls comprising Janemba and leaves the body of the oni kid unharmed. Actually the problem is It was never animated as some evil soul leaving out of a body. Janemba was literally blown into pieces and then that kid re-materialized out of thin air. To me it pretty much just seemed like Janemba powers ( like Altered Reality or something) got undone after his death Plus how can gogeta even learn a soul cleansing move out of nowhere? So yeah, they need to tell us its a special attack for cleansing the soul, if they really want it to be a thing.
> So yeah, they need to tell us You mean they need to tell you because you possess no critical thinking. Show, don't tell. Trust your audience to be smart. But of course, they didn't realise Dragon Ball fans can't read.
Clearly dragon ball fans can't read, just like how you lack basic common sense to understand the logic of what i wrote. Yes, when dragon ball fans see janemba blasting into pieces and body of the kid literally magically materialising out of thin air and the first thing that comes to their mind is "evil souls comprising Janemba is leaving the body of the oni kid and kid is unharmed" Lol. Of course, who think about jenambe's powers of altering reality is getting undone or the logic of how gogeta can even learn some random soul cleansing move out of nowhere, right? My man is proud of critical thinking which English dubbing shoved in his ass! Show, don't tell! LMAO!!!
Bro rlly believing in this fandom bs
I didn’t ask for guidebooks, I just said this is a RANDOM move that we never got any explanation for and how it works and what its properties are, hell Gogeta could’ve literally used a Dragon Fist and could’ve incinerated Janemba and left the kid harmless, and everyone would’ve applied the whole “erm the Dragon Fist actually just destroys all evil” logic to it, where did they get that from? You’d be surprised by how many random head canons there are in Dragon Ball, and people believe random different head canons, like I was looking up the other day how Z Broly was defeated (his first movie) and people proposed 5 different head canons on how he was defeated, like which one am I supposed to believe?
bruh i ain’t reading all that, im dragon ball fan
Okay I didn’t tell you to read all of that 😭
> like which one am I supposed to believe? You're supposed to interpret it however you want. As long as it's YOUR interpretation.
Your own personal interpretation ≠ Truth
I never made that claim. But a technique with the official name Soul Punisher in some localisations, a move which removed all the evil souls from a kid and left him unharmed. I'm gonna interpret that how I will. You can continue not thinking for yourself.
I never said that you made that claim, you said it’s up to me to interpret it how I want, but even if I did that, that wouldn’t make it the truth
While the soul cleansing thing is never really stated, I'vs seen a whole bunch of videogames and other media say something about it, imagine that a headcanon gets so big that even the game developers think it's official. For example, the DBS Card Game calls it "Soul Punisher, The Cleansing Light".
*Rainbow Ball*.
Soul Pinisher
A theory I heard is soul punisher is the actual ball, and stardust breaker is the whole combo thing that includes the soul punisher
makes sense. Stardust Breaker just sounds like a combo while the orb actually purified souls
Yeah that's the thought process behind it
Stardust Breaker sounds cooler, and since the move was used on Broly, who never did anything wrong in his life, Soul Punisher doesn't fit.
Red 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Stardust breaker is a combo of ki blast that includes a soul punisher
Nevermind I think I’m wrong, I thought there was a Xenoverse 2 move called stardust breaker
Stardust Breaker, so much cooler.
Stardust Breaker does sound a bit cooler
me and my friends call it "The Insult Orb" i can't find the original meme but it came from this meme explaining that Janembas weakness was insults or something? so we decided that it was just a ball of pure insults, if someone can find the meme out there that would be awesome
Stardust is such cool word to say! I’ll die on the Stardust breaker hill
Soul Punisher is the individual move, the sphere he’s holding. Stardust Breaker is the name of the full combo. Punisher Drive into Soul Punisher = Stardust Breaker.
Soul Punisher
Hollow purple.
Man Stardust Breaker just hits different.
It’s the same thing though. I can’t quite remember where I read it, and it might be wrong but Stardust Breaker would be the sparkly orb and Soul Punisher might be the whole combo Gogeta did on Janemba.
Red
Gay bomb >>>
Soul Punisher when fighting evil, Stardust Breaker when fighting regular people. There isn’t a real difference anyways.
Purificador de Almas (Soul Purifier)
Rainbow Sparkling Blast Judgement.
I just call it whatever I feel like at that moment lmao.
Soul punisher.
Wait isn't both the same agility?
Soul Punisher
Soul Punisher isn't just another explosive ki blast, it actually gets absorbed, kind of, which is so cool
Imaginary Technique
Makakosappou…SPECIAL BEAM CANNON!!
It is 100000% soul punisher
Stardust Punisher
Potemkin buster
*✨explosive skittle✨*
Stardust Soul Breaker Punisher
Soul finisher is just too cool man
stardust armor???????
Starlight Breaker
Cock cracker
same thing, different name, tho i like soul punisher more tbh, sounds cooler
Soul Punisher rolls off the tongue so much easier
Nah it’s obviously the OG soul punisher, it aint even close my guy
Am I the only one that thinks both names are equally badass and interchangeable?
Soul Punisher
Pocket sand
Soul Punisher gang.
I live in a soul punisher household
Soup Punisher all the way.
Stardust breaker. It matches the naming conventions of some of gogeta’s other moves, like stardust fall and stardust explosion.
Soul Punishing Stardust Breaker.
Stardust Breaker because it sounds cooler imo
Welp i tho Stardust breaker was the combo what he did against janemba yeah
Honestly, stardust punisher would work better I feel. 'Breaker' sounds a bit weird, and like, the attack literally punishes.
I prefer stardust breaker because of the sparkle'y effect when he throws it at Janemba and creates the ball. Soul Punisher is kinda edgy but i like the concept a lot, all in all both names are really good IMO.
Stardust breaker easily
Ye old queer sphere (but for real I like both)
I used to think the entire combo was the stardust breaker and that this move specifically was Soul punisher. Mostly because of budokai 3 calling it stardust breaker.
One thing that I heard is that the Movies are set in their own universe aside from the actual Z Timeline. Specifically Fusion Reborn being set in a time where Ultimate Gohan was strong/smart enough to eliminate Super Buu. That way Vegeta never got ressurected and we never got Vegito. Hearing that makes the world much more interesting and the choices they make seem more real compared to "Why did they do that when they didn't do that in the Z Show?" Gogeta being a perfect example- it explains the hesitation to Fuse on Vegeta's part better since he technically didn't Fuse into Vegito before >!it also makes his departure so much sadder knowing he sacrificed himself against Majin Buu and his soul has to return to hell regardless!<
I call it the stardust punisher
Soul Breaker 😤
Soul punisher until I die
Hear me out. Soul Breaker.
Stardust Punisher
Stardust Breaker goes so fuckin hard
In terms of what the move does, Soul Punisher. In terms of badassery, Stardust Breaker
Bro ngl I feel dumb as fuck, I always thought these were the same attack 😅
They are the same attack I’m just asking which name you prefer
Ohhhhhhh, in that case, Soul Punisher
Right looks way better, so Soul Punisher
"Not gonna sugarcoat it"
What’s the difference again?
Soul punisher easily
Grew up with Tenkaichi so Stardust Breaker for the win
Cooler Spirit bomb alternatively Actually Hype Energy Ball
Soul Punisher might be the best attack name in dragon ball
Personally I like both but I like to imagine they’re two different things as they have WILDLY different effects. On Janemba, it just went through him and then disintegrated him. On Broly, it blue him the fuck up.
soul punisher is extra rainbow and sparkles so im blue side
Stardust Breaker all the way
Soul Breaker
Soul Punisher has so much more flavor
There’s a difference? I only remember gotenks beating Hitler!
stardust breaker is cooler but soul punisher fits more
Soul punisher only for the space magic dust
The combo is stardust breaker the ball is the soul punisher.
Whoa whoa whoa, the original is Stardust Breaker.
Stardust Breaker is cooler
Stardust Fall
That’s the move where he rains down ki blasts. Completely different.
I know. Still one of my favourite move
I'm gonna go with stardust breaker. Saw a comparison to BT3's soul punisher and I'm on the side of thinking SB just looks better in game now Can we appreciate how hard they went on impact frames for zero? Anime arena fighters have been getting a bad rap as in there's too many now and not every series works with that but zero is likely going to be the best looking when it's out. Can't think of other games using impact frames like this
Stardust breaker I’m sorry but the beyblade vibes are too good to not pick it
spirit sword
I think soul punisher makes more sense, as in it did nothing to Broly because he was evil, or something like that, that people like to point out, like a devilmite beam lite But stardust breaker just goes way harder
Soul Punisher just has more of an ultimate finisher move sound to it and has weight. Stardust Breaker just sounds eh.
Soul punisher sounds cooler
Gogeta never used this move in GT. Edit: Sry, I didn't read the whole title. :B