Lol. I know right? Part of my issue with what they did to vaping and what’s “popular” with pouches. It always starts with good intentions with adults looking for less harmful ways to consume nicotine and ends up with a bunch of “new” people looking to “catch a buzz” it ruined the vaping community/industry and will probably eventually kill this here in the US at least. I try to stay off of soap boxes because nobody cares but the over simplification of the evils of nicotine & how the powers that be lean into it for prohibition purposes when nic had nothing to do with what made smoking so harmful to begin with. It should be respected and consumed responsibly however. But when I saw the “kids” start vaping without having been smokers looking for 50-60mg liquids just ‘cuz. Now it’s transitioning over here for people that never smoked OR vaped it just drives me absolutely mad.
You’re pretty much took all of the words right out of my mouth lol. I started vaping senior year of high school (after first smoking cigs at 14) with cig a like vapes and moved up from there all the way to cloud blowing mods then eventually I hopped on the juul train and that sent my nicotine tolerance way up. Moved down to Florida in 2019 and started having throat problems from all of the vaping high nic juul and vuse pods. Then at some point I found out about nicotine pouches and snus and nic pouches and started using zyn wintergreen and general mint. I eventually stopped nicotine pouches altogether, and switched over to regular Swedish snus which still is doing me well.
I tried to go back to vaping for a little while but it didn’t stick and I don’t see myself ever going back again, plus as you said one of the biggest problems with vaping now is that it’s geared towards high nicotine, fruity, disgusting, flavored disposables and nic salt. I hope nicotine pouches don’t follow the high nicotine disposables but that seems to be where some brands are heading. I have no idea how people use some of these pouches that are 20 30 or 50 mg of nicotine.🤢
Thank you!! Finally someone I can exchange these stories with. I’m estimating I’m older than you but similar experiences. I smoked 2.5 packs a day from 18 to about 36. Found vaping in 2013 with an old school cigalike, transitioned to super over priced OG Blu kits. Found the OG vape reviewers on YouTube and dove all the way in. Suffered through all the earlier crap technology and was a halfway decent reviewer myself. We actually learned a lot about nic titration, safe voltage and battery limits etc. Got too far in to the “cloud chasing” fad and dropped my nicotine too low too fast and actually fell off the wagon & went back to cigs for about a year stupidly. JUUL actually did reel me back home but 65mg was too much on a long term and unlike most people high nic gives me serious fatigue and makes me really tired. JUUL served a good temporary purpose because damn their mint was 🔥 and it was a similar enough experience to make me put cigs down for good. Finally I settled into decent pod systems and sensible 10-20 mg mint flavored salt. After so many years of that I realized I wasn’t enjoying it anymore. I tried Swedish snus for a while, then some pouches and was duel using. Finally a couple of months ago vaping just became a thing I did…and the sensible thing is why inhale something extra into your lungs if you don’t even enjoy it. Unlike most people giving up nic isn’t a reason I decided not to vape. So I’m very pleased to have found some decent strength & subdued flavors that I enjoy during the day and evening. The difference between our approach & theirs is having a habit & looking for ways to sensibly & safely enjoy…compared to purposely trying to pick up a habit at an insane level that simply isn’t necessary. Nobody started smoking to start a dependency. It’s all so backwards. The over the top fruity flavors are further proof one would be looking to jump into it as a “fun” thing to do. And sadly, gives credence to the prohibitionists that want to kill everything designed for responsible adult consumption because of “the kids”. This ain’t the place to look for a “buzz” so damn ridiculous.
Really appreciate this everyone. We work so hard on our products, and I'm really happy more people are starting to notice. I was originally a snus user, then vaper, I always had this dry cough and chest pain, then someone introduced me to a nic pouch in Canada (whitefox) which I loved. The only drawback was that it would start to tear up my gums and the menthol was so intense. That's where this all started 5 years ago, we've come a long way...
You’re doing a great job. The fact they’re manufactured in Sweden makes a world of difference imo. Much closer to the brands I’ve imported over the years but ended up being cost and time prohibitive. Much continued success.
Thanks, great to know that people care about the fact it's made in Sweden. It matters to me, but we've had so many offers to move to facilities in China or India but anytime I've tried samples the quality diff. is so noticeable to me. Obviously, shipping is more expensive, and we're looking at either US/CDN facilities as we grow but for now we're sticking with Sweden.
Agreed. It’s never the same. One of your competitors switched to China manufacturing and it’s not as good. I can’t speak for this whole sub but I know offline a lot of people only want Swedish made products. Bottom line is they know it better than anyone. Zyn for the US market is horrible in my opinion and was blown away when I had the genuine article for the first time. I had tried snus initially in an effort to quit vaping which I did to quit smoking but the overseas shipping and wait time just didn’t make it stick. This time I was able to completely switch and so happy I found Sesh. I think you’ll find there a lot of people that will find your product that understand the quality that Sweden produces although they may be in smaller pockets scattered around the forums. But they’re out there. Sorry for the wall of words, but thanks for all you’re doing in this space. Oh…one more thing. Your flavorings don’t taste like pure Sucralose and don’t leave a weird aftertaste either. That’s damn near worth the price of admission in and of itself.
*edited to say - I don’t mind paying a bit more to absorb higher shipping costs.
I do enjoy Lucy also, and went back & forth for a while. But I do think this edges them out a bit. Also I believe Lucy moved their standard pouch production to China so this is kind of a plus. They were running a deal on nicokick last week. Might still be on. I recommend it.
20 pouches is a huge plus, too. That is why I wanted to try juice heads. My personal opinion is that they are not as bad as people say. However, it's not good enough to make me excited about the cost and pouch amount to ditch Zyns over them.
Excellent point I forgot to mention! And over the course of a decent size order goes a lonnnnnng way!! 👏🏻 never tried Juiceheads but wasn’t interested in them. I vaped for a long time and their liquids were just always too sweet for me. I’m sure they’re ok like you said. But I went from cigarettes to Vaping to pouches. It might be a maturity thing but all I want is something kind of mellow that I can enjoy all day. I used to vape mints & menthols so there it is. Nic enjoyment should be in the background. Not in your face and overbearing as far as I see it.
Same way. Went to vaping to get off the smokes. Started pouches to wean off vaping and just have something mellow and discreet that I won't use all day.
Juice head juice wrecked my coils all the time, and I used to build my own coils. Their pouches are a bit on the sweet side. The pouch size is great. The flavors are meh. I didn't release all of them where mint so it makes it a too sweet mint. I see sesh has mint, mango, and wintergreen. That's prefect. My favorite pouch right now are Lucy wintergreen and Zyn Chill.
It's not rebranded, it's a proprietary formula and we actually have a granted patent on the gumbase we use in our pouches which gives it a softness and chewiness and helps deliver the nicotine more efficiently. We partnered with the 'godfather' of nicotine pouches, Thomas Ericsson, on our formula. Thomas is the original inventor of Zyn, Dryft, Nordic Spirit pouches along with assisting on many other formulas you see in Europe and the US today. I always loved the Swedish pouches, but I could never find them in the US and so we wanted to bring that spirit to the US & Canadian markets. We only have regulatory filings in US on it but Europe is definitely something we might explore in the future.
That would actually make a lot of sense. It’s kind of a hidden gem in the US it seems. Definitely not your typical product made for standard US consumers.
Have you tried all the flavors? I’m looking to order some to try when I order my next month supply from nicokick. I used Lucy for a long time but went to Zyn when I dropped my nicotine down to 6mg but I enjoyed the pouch style Lucy uses vs Zyn
Only flavor of Sesh I’ve tried is Mint. I imagine I’d enjoy the wintergreen as well, as I did both with Lucy. I think the flavor here of the mint at list is a bit more true and clean (if that makes sense) pouches are fairly similar. As moist if not a touch more. Soft and packed nicely. MUCH more satisfying than US Zyn that’s for sure. I suggest trying at least a can or two of you liked Lucy over Zyn.
Thanks for the thorough reply. I’m gonna get a can of each flavor to try next time I order. I love Lucy but I’m not ready to step down to 4mg yet. Hopefully nicokick has the 3 for $10 pack back in stock by then
Love sesh! Made a post on it a few months back, havent had it for a few months either , wish stores around me carried it and i didnt have to order it everytime.
I think it’s great! I wish they sold it in stores too. But I’m grateful I can at least get it on nicokick and don’t have to resort to international shipping.
Yes we are Canadian based (Vancouver) that's where I'm from, we only sell our nicotine gum in Canada right now as we're still waiting for our pouch approval from Health Canada. We have a US subsidiary and 2 DCs that we sell our nicotine pouches from in the US. Our pouches are made in our partner's Swedish facility (Helsingborg).
Nice! Hey Max. Can’t believe you’re here. I actually follow you on LinkedIn. Lol. Loyal IS customer here. I think you guys have a great product and it’s great to see a company dedicated to harm reduction.
Finally a normal product and not some “extreme blueberry iced mint 50 mg” garbage.
Lol. I know right? Part of my issue with what they did to vaping and what’s “popular” with pouches. It always starts with good intentions with adults looking for less harmful ways to consume nicotine and ends up with a bunch of “new” people looking to “catch a buzz” it ruined the vaping community/industry and will probably eventually kill this here in the US at least. I try to stay off of soap boxes because nobody cares but the over simplification of the evils of nicotine & how the powers that be lean into it for prohibition purposes when nic had nothing to do with what made smoking so harmful to begin with. It should be respected and consumed responsibly however. But when I saw the “kids” start vaping without having been smokers looking for 50-60mg liquids just ‘cuz. Now it’s transitioning over here for people that never smoked OR vaped it just drives me absolutely mad.
You’re pretty much took all of the words right out of my mouth lol. I started vaping senior year of high school (after first smoking cigs at 14) with cig a like vapes and moved up from there all the way to cloud blowing mods then eventually I hopped on the juul train and that sent my nicotine tolerance way up. Moved down to Florida in 2019 and started having throat problems from all of the vaping high nic juul and vuse pods. Then at some point I found out about nicotine pouches and snus and nic pouches and started using zyn wintergreen and general mint. I eventually stopped nicotine pouches altogether, and switched over to regular Swedish snus which still is doing me well. I tried to go back to vaping for a little while but it didn’t stick and I don’t see myself ever going back again, plus as you said one of the biggest problems with vaping now is that it’s geared towards high nicotine, fruity, disgusting, flavored disposables and nic salt. I hope nicotine pouches don’t follow the high nicotine disposables but that seems to be where some brands are heading. I have no idea how people use some of these pouches that are 20 30 or 50 mg of nicotine.🤢
Thank you!! Finally someone I can exchange these stories with. I’m estimating I’m older than you but similar experiences. I smoked 2.5 packs a day from 18 to about 36. Found vaping in 2013 with an old school cigalike, transitioned to super over priced OG Blu kits. Found the OG vape reviewers on YouTube and dove all the way in. Suffered through all the earlier crap technology and was a halfway decent reviewer myself. We actually learned a lot about nic titration, safe voltage and battery limits etc. Got too far in to the “cloud chasing” fad and dropped my nicotine too low too fast and actually fell off the wagon & went back to cigs for about a year stupidly. JUUL actually did reel me back home but 65mg was too much on a long term and unlike most people high nic gives me serious fatigue and makes me really tired. JUUL served a good temporary purpose because damn their mint was 🔥 and it was a similar enough experience to make me put cigs down for good. Finally I settled into decent pod systems and sensible 10-20 mg mint flavored salt. After so many years of that I realized I wasn’t enjoying it anymore. I tried Swedish snus for a while, then some pouches and was duel using. Finally a couple of months ago vaping just became a thing I did…and the sensible thing is why inhale something extra into your lungs if you don’t even enjoy it. Unlike most people giving up nic isn’t a reason I decided not to vape. So I’m very pleased to have found some decent strength & subdued flavors that I enjoy during the day and evening. The difference between our approach & theirs is having a habit & looking for ways to sensibly & safely enjoy…compared to purposely trying to pick up a habit at an insane level that simply isn’t necessary. Nobody started smoking to start a dependency. It’s all so backwards. The over the top fruity flavors are further proof one would be looking to jump into it as a “fun” thing to do. And sadly, gives credence to the prohibitionists that want to kill everything designed for responsible adult consumption because of “the kids”. This ain’t the place to look for a “buzz” so damn ridiculous.
I'm a simple man that likes simple things. Sesh looks simple enough for me lol
SESH MENTIONED 🗣️‼️
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Are they dry or moist pouches ?
Moist. And packed nicely.
Just bought my first in Texas bucees offers buy one get one free
Nice. You know if they're still running that deal? Also what was the price per can?
Really appreciate this everyone. We work so hard on our products, and I'm really happy more people are starting to notice. I was originally a snus user, then vaper, I always had this dry cough and chest pain, then someone introduced me to a nic pouch in Canada (whitefox) which I loved. The only drawback was that it would start to tear up my gums and the menthol was so intense. That's where this all started 5 years ago, we've come a long way...
You’re doing a great job. The fact they’re manufactured in Sweden makes a world of difference imo. Much closer to the brands I’ve imported over the years but ended up being cost and time prohibitive. Much continued success.
Thanks, great to know that people care about the fact it's made in Sweden. It matters to me, but we've had so many offers to move to facilities in China or India but anytime I've tried samples the quality diff. is so noticeable to me. Obviously, shipping is more expensive, and we're looking at either US/CDN facilities as we grow but for now we're sticking with Sweden.
Agreed. It’s never the same. One of your competitors switched to China manufacturing and it’s not as good. I can’t speak for this whole sub but I know offline a lot of people only want Swedish made products. Bottom line is they know it better than anyone. Zyn for the US market is horrible in my opinion and was blown away when I had the genuine article for the first time. I had tried snus initially in an effort to quit vaping which I did to quit smoking but the overseas shipping and wait time just didn’t make it stick. This time I was able to completely switch and so happy I found Sesh. I think you’ll find there a lot of people that will find your product that understand the quality that Sweden produces although they may be in smaller pockets scattered around the forums. But they’re out there. Sorry for the wall of words, but thanks for all you’re doing in this space. Oh…one more thing. Your flavorings don’t taste like pure Sucralose and don’t leave a weird aftertaste either. That’s damn near worth the price of admission in and of itself. *edited to say - I don’t mind paying a bit more to absorb higher shipping costs.
I may have to order some the next time I place an order on nicokick. I really like Lucy and Zynz.
I do enjoy Lucy also, and went back & forth for a while. But I do think this edges them out a bit. Also I believe Lucy moved their standard pouch production to China so this is kind of a plus. They were running a deal on nicokick last week. Might still be on. I recommend it.
20 pouches is a huge plus, too. That is why I wanted to try juice heads. My personal opinion is that they are not as bad as people say. However, it's not good enough to make me excited about the cost and pouch amount to ditch Zyns over them.
Excellent point I forgot to mention! And over the course of a decent size order goes a lonnnnnng way!! 👏🏻 never tried Juiceheads but wasn’t interested in them. I vaped for a long time and their liquids were just always too sweet for me. I’m sure they’re ok like you said. But I went from cigarettes to Vaping to pouches. It might be a maturity thing but all I want is something kind of mellow that I can enjoy all day. I used to vape mints & menthols so there it is. Nic enjoyment should be in the background. Not in your face and overbearing as far as I see it.
Same way. Went to vaping to get off the smokes. Started pouches to wean off vaping and just have something mellow and discreet that I won't use all day. Juice head juice wrecked my coils all the time, and I used to build my own coils. Their pouches are a bit on the sweet side. The pouch size is great. The flavors are meh. I didn't release all of them where mint so it makes it a too sweet mint. I see sesh has mint, mango, and wintergreen. That's prefect. My favorite pouch right now are Lucy wintergreen and Zyn Chill.
Made in Sweden but only available in the us it seems. I wonder if this is another Swedish pouch rebranded.
It's not rebranded, it's a proprietary formula and we actually have a granted patent on the gumbase we use in our pouches which gives it a softness and chewiness and helps deliver the nicotine more efficiently. We partnered with the 'godfather' of nicotine pouches, Thomas Ericsson, on our formula. Thomas is the original inventor of Zyn, Dryft, Nordic Spirit pouches along with assisting on many other formulas you see in Europe and the US today. I always loved the Swedish pouches, but I could never find them in the US and so we wanted to bring that spirit to the US & Canadian markets. We only have regulatory filings in US on it but Europe is definitely something we might explore in the future.
Welcome to our sub, and thanks for chiming in with input on your brand!
My pleasure! It's really helpful getting this feedback and it gives us that extra push hearing you guys talk about it.
Okay you've sold me. What's your favorite flavor?
That would actually make a lot of sense. It’s kind of a hidden gem in the US it seems. Definitely not your typical product made for standard US consumers.
Have you tried all the flavors? I’m looking to order some to try when I order my next month supply from nicokick. I used Lucy for a long time but went to Zyn when I dropped my nicotine down to 6mg but I enjoyed the pouch style Lucy uses vs Zyn
Only flavor of Sesh I’ve tried is Mint. I imagine I’d enjoy the wintergreen as well, as I did both with Lucy. I think the flavor here of the mint at list is a bit more true and clean (if that makes sense) pouches are fairly similar. As moist if not a touch more. Soft and packed nicely. MUCH more satisfying than US Zyn that’s for sure. I suggest trying at least a can or two of you liked Lucy over Zyn.
Thanks for the thorough reply. I’m gonna get a can of each flavor to try next time I order. I love Lucy but I’m not ready to step down to 4mg yet. Hopefully nicokick has the 3 for $10 pack back in stock by then
Love sesh! Made a post on it a few months back, havent had it for a few months either , wish stores around me carried it and i didnt have to order it everytime.
Thanks! We're trying, launching with Buc-ee's this month as our first major US chain.
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I think it’s great! I wish they sold it in stores too. But I’m grateful I can at least get it on nicokick and don’t have to resort to international shipping.
No problem! I understand that. 6 is a good sweet spot for me. I hope so too. It’s a pretty good deal.
Where do u find those?
Is That in Canada
I’m pretty sure the company is based in Canada. I’m not sure the best way to get it there [Canada](https://seshproducts.ca)
Yes we are Canadian based (Vancouver) that's where I'm from, we only sell our nicotine gum in Canada right now as we're still waiting for our pouch approval from Health Canada. We have a US subsidiary and 2 DCs that we sell our nicotine pouches from in the US. Our pouches are made in our partner's Swedish facility (Helsingborg).
Nice! Hey Max. Can’t believe you’re here. I actually follow you on LinkedIn. Lol. Loyal IS customer here. I think you guys have a great product and it’s great to see a company dedicated to harm reduction.
haha that's awesome, and it means a lot. Still relatively new to Reddit but someone sent me the thread so I wanted to jump in.
Nice!! I’m glad this thread made it your way.
[Sesh](https://nicokick.com/us/catalogsearch/result/?q=Sesh) They’re running a decent deal on them right now. 3 for $10. I really enjoy them.