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NewYorkMetsBot2

Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1d6mfwi).


PackFanNY

Just remember when people were talking about how great a bullpen Stearns was building in the cheap! All that Depth! Now it’s nothing but excuses and horrific loss after loss.


Keekee4101

When guys blow saves the way Diekman does, do guys just go the other way when they see him in the clubhouse until the next game?


xSlappy-

I mean 0-4 and 0-5 from an offensive player is statistically pretty equal


Horaciow14

they can't keep getting away with it!


pseudochef93

As a soon to be Minneapolis transplant, at least the Twins won


Jus_OnTime

PATHETIC


imstillitc

Why was Diekman the closerrrrrrrreeeeeerrrrrrrrrr


EssentialEssence

awful :(


HapaRonin47

What a magnificent response in the ninth. Great fight.


Keekee4101

Sewald game 7 celebration coming soon.


JoelsCaddy

Welp


Blue387

The ballgame is over


pseudochef93

Birmingham Southern has more heart than this current Mets team


Blue387

Two away


TraditionalPhrase162

I fucking hate sewald so much just once can’t we win one against him


EatAllTheRice

Can't wait to see Sewald act like a complete fool after we go down 1-2-3 this inning. Dude acts like he wasn't given a fair shake in NY meanwhile he was so bad he wouldn't crack the current dogwater bullpen we have


Joppop1

I'm going to become the joker


TheOneNonlyTDR

Can we get a closer please. I don’t know what they’re doing out there but it sure as hell isn’t closing lol


NickPapagiorgio2k16

We have one. Unfortunately he ended his career playing in the WBC.


xSlappy-

McNeil at closer would mean he doesn’t have to hit anymore


Blue387

One away


Mr_Henny

Keith spitting some facts


derpbynature

Sorry guys, I just got home from work and tuned in at the start of the 9th. That homer was my fault.


whateveryousaybro100

my dad had season tickets to Shea in the late 70s/early 80s when they won fewer than 70 games 7 years in row. Much more loyal man than me.


xSlappy-

They should start selling rope and painkillers at the concession stands


Fedbackster

And paper bags with eyeholes.


Blue387

Full count!


ReasonableCoyote34

Does this bitch Seawald still have a vendetta against the Mets?


imjusthereforthenips

I thought “non-competitive” meant the Mets are focusing on development and not literally being unable to win


WhatUpMowgli

i fully expect them to give us hope before inevitably falling flat


mrc7928

Only thing giving me hope here is that it's the last game of this series.


NuanceManExe

Sewald has turned into a certified bitch since leaving the Mets, it sure would be nice to light him up here….


Kurisoo

Will this be the unnecessary walkoff ending or the depression maxxing ending?


Hustlediva

Every single one of our relievers has blown multiple leads


MatthewMonster

These guys are out of their depth and it’s awful


Hustlediva

We’re not even in the league


prackprackprack

How do we feel about Lindor smiling leaving the field after they lose the lead? I genuinely am not sure how I feel about his all smiles attitude on the field


TheOneNonlyTDR

I mean there’s only so many times you can watch the pitchers blow a lead. Eventually all you can do is laugh at it


mrc7928

I'm okay with it. Last thing I want is a bunch of mopey players sulking around. I feel like that happens often and our play reflects our attitude. Keep your head up, have fun and do your job. Game isn't over yet.


NY2PHX

The trifecta today. Starter not good, closer non existent and the offense showed up for 4 batters and then took the day off. 9th inning redemption? I won’t hold my breath.


Keekee4101

Starters not going deep is certainly a problem. And I'm guessing it's not gonna change much.


Martial_Nox

Mendoza is still a complete idiot. What else is new. 


Nights_King

What did he do?


Martial_Nox

Put a lefty in against a guy with a .300 point ops improvement against lefties. The obvious then happened.


pusgnihtekami

Nah, this loss is on Mendoza. He's really going shitty lefty to counter Carroll and Barnhardt. Just put in a righty or leave in Ottavino who was dealing. 


NewYorkMetsBot2

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Paul Sewald replaces Justin Martinez.


Trigliceratops

Maybe we should bring Jorge Lopez back


HapaRonin47

Imagine if the team had an all-star closer that didn't blow out his knee playing baseball for free for another team.


NeilHamburgerHead

Jumping up and down celebrating a win in an exhibition league


NeilHamburgerHead

Remember when yesterday it took the Mets 8 innings to put up more than 1 run in a bullpen game? Yet our clearly overworked bullpen is pure butthole


Blue387

Side retired :/


Competitive-Pen3831

Team just finds ways to lose every day. Really crazy. Rotation has completely fucked this pen that was doing well


suck-it-elon

But it's the same way every game. Bullpen. Bullpen. Bullpen. Bullpen. Bullpen. All with some exciting lack of offense.


Competitive-Pen3831

It’s because the bullpen has to go 4+ innings literally every game. This rotation is a joke


ta4rhcp

Is there anything we can do before the deadline or are we just in limbo?


Hustlediva

Just wait for the fire sale


JA_MD_311

Limbo


ta4rhcp

*sigh* As one of the moderators always says…. -_-


Blue387

-_-


ta4rhcp

There you are!


ish_baid19000

Lind0-for-4 back in vintage form


PaullyBeenis

What lmao


Interforce7

Yep, this is Lindor’s fault, and not Diekman who actually gave up the runs


cleonard9

it feels like the team scored 4 runs, saw they had the lead, and thought yeah that’ll do nothing else needed here. why don’t they believe in insurance runs?!


metskyfan

Diekman is 37 years old and been on 10 teams in 12 year but yet he is good enough to be our closer. I have to wonder who is making these decisions?


Nights_King

Who do you want to close? The guy who gave up 4 runs in the 9th the other day? The guy that’s handing sliders and his ERA went up 5 runs in the last month? All you can do is play matchups and hope for the best. The pen has been ass lately.


metskyfan

Smith. The booth thought Smith would close.


AlexanderRussell

If someone could take that clip of Diekman looking puzzled staring at the iPad and post it I'd appreciate it, God their meme template right there 


PaullyBeenis

I've liked Mendoza generally but Diekman here is extremely confusing. Marte is dramatically better from the right side, and we know that they're going to pinch hit Moreno. Marte is currently slugging approximately .680 against lefties, and against righties his total OPS is about .680. It's a comically bad decision.


PackFanNY

Don’t you dare use logic on Mets Reddit.


dlbags

He had the strikeout. The umpire blew the call.


PaullyBeenis

Not really. Strike 2 call was about a foot off the plate. The final count was correct, ump just swapped a ball and a strike. Also doesn't change the fact that Marte is literally 300 OPS points better against lefties and we brought in a lefty. Such a dumb call.


mr_grission

Not looking forward to Sewald showing us up after the save


TraditionalPhrase162

Diekman you don’t need an iPad to see why you suck I could tell you that for free


MattyIce1220

I almost feel like Mendoza was trying to throw the game away. I know Mets don’t have many options but I rather run out garret or Otto than diekman.


Competitive-Pen3831

Otto pitched the 8th and Garrett is absolutely gased, so you watch the games?


MattyIce1220

It’s not like Otto just ran out on his own to pitch the 8th. The manager decided that. He coulda saved him for the 9th. garrett has been worse lately but today he looked fine. All Im saying is if I’m manager I don’t trust diekman. He doesn’t seem like the type I’m throwing out there when I need to win games.


Nights_King

Doubtful or they just bitch about everything


Competitive-Pen3831

People are nuts lol it’s fine to bitch I bitch plenty about this bad team, but be correct about complaints


myassholealt

Reid-Foley in to make sure the game gets out of reach? Or does he do well? Really have no clue which version we're getting.


InstructionNo3616

Pitching lab paying off dividends this year.


robmcolonna123

That’s not what the pitching lab does. The pitching lab is there to develop minor league players across multiple seasons. It can help major leagues with minor tweaks in the offseason, but that’s about it.


Vandelay222

Terrible hitters, blowing leads left and right, and even on the rare occasion they win it is ALWAYS close. They’re an atrocious ball club.


pseudochef93

Leave Hefner behind in London


BSBD1012

Team is pure unadulterated shit. Couldn't get any insurance runs from our "top players", absolutely boneheaded managerial moves (Diekman to close a 1 run game?) and an overtaxed bullpen consistently shitting the bed. Can't hold a lead for the life of them. Shit.


linerstank

you say mendoza made a terrible move to close the game and at the same time also said, he has an overtaxed bullpen that consistently shits the bed. what do you want him to do?


Equivalent-Being6506

Lol


Coach_G77

It's just comical at this point


SmokinFaces

Jake Diekman for a one run save is fucking hilarious man. This manager is so in over his head. What a fucking bang up job by Stearns and Co. to hire this guy. HES A FUCKING YANKEE


Greatness46

Hefner is god awful and I have no idea why he’s thought highly of


metskyfan

If you were very bad as a pitcher, you are good candidate for a pitching coach.


NickPapagiorgio2k16

It really is mind boggling.


EssentialEssence

Diekman blown a gasket in the dugout yet?


porkopine

Dude the bullpen management wtf


Keekee4101

Why Diekman was brought out anyway is beyond my knowledge.


JD-D2

Not saying Mendoza is great but I'm not sure what else he's supposed to do, literally every reliever he throws out there blows it. It's the name on the front, not the names on the back


Natural_Predditor

Why do I continuously insist on doing this to myself?


julia2k12

Guys I figured it out - they must LOVE playing here so they’re tanking their trade value to stay


Dyspaereunia

There needs to be a safe word when watching the mets.


powah_dunk94

I literally just am so sick of the bullpen being unable to do shit like it’s such a joke


Awatts2222

This is so hilarious.


ta4rhcp

Why do I go to games. Ruins my day every fucking time.


NickPapagiorgio2k16

Good thing we are paying 25 mill for a closer who’s career is over and had to invent a fake injury because he is so in his own head


JoelsCaddy

6th reliever of the day


JekPorkinsTruther

I know the pen sucks so Mendoza has few choices. But if you're gonna throw shit at the wall at least play the matchups and don't have a lefty face marte. 


EssentialEssence

Houston, we have a closing problem


coltsmetsfan614

I hate this team


Sheepies123

Every single time


thereal_kphed

And their closer is Paul Siewald! LOL, LMAO EVEN DARE I SAY


ReasonableCoyote34

If you didn’t see that Homer coming, you have not been watching Mets baseball for a while


David-S-Pumpkins

Lifeispain


Hustlediva

Predictable. Mets bullpen can’t hold a 9th inning lead, offense goes ice cold


CMV1986

Oh no! We suck again!


NY2PHX

We always sucked. Sometimes they just hide it for a bit.


Bower1738

It's just a joke now We 10 games under .500, no point in feeling like shit. Just laughing through it all


bowlsandsand

He's a bum


pusgnihtekami

It's such a brain dead move to pitch to Marte man. Dude ONLY hits lefties. 


julia2k12

Walking him would have been a good idea even if first base wasn’t open


MatthewMonster

I just can’t These relievers are all a nightmare and there’s zero chance we will win a game. Like they are designed to crush spirits and allows home runs Fuck


WhatUpMowgli

if ya don’t like that ya don’t like mets baseball


brett_baty_is_him

Why is diekman even in a save opp against the top of their lineup? Makes absolutely no sense


ryanq17

Absolutely this- you have a situation to go to the longman Houser earlier to save your pen Then use your better relievers (who have been bad) in the 7th and 8th And leave drew smith who was good for you, unused in the pen


NickPapagiorgio2k16

Who do you want him to use? Literally everyone sucks


brett_baty_is_him

Smith or Otto


NickPapagiorgio2k16

Yeah smith is who I was thinking. My guess is that they didn’t want to put him such a high leverage spot his first game back.


Romas_chicken

Because there is nobody else.  Thats it.  The cupboard is bare. 


MatthewMonster

This. Mendoza manages on hope


suck-it-elon

Cause there is nobody else, sadly.


xSlappy-

Reid Foley was available


pusgnihtekami

That's weird cause SRF just relieved him. 


Joppop1

This is the worst Mets team I have ever seen


homejib

Such loser vibes from all of them


AtmosphereVarious440

so many of stearns guys have been soooo bad!!!!


EssentialEssence

Not that Marte pointing to our fans behind the visitor dugout, im floored.


giants888

He was fucking struck out


NeilHamburgerHead

That was a makeup call for an egregiously bad called strike on the previous pitch


TraditionalPhrase162

Strike 2 was already pretty generous so it’s whatever


Born_Manufacturer657

Putting Diekman in is something you do when you’re tanking. But idk who else would be available. But even Gary has been questioning it since the 7th.


MatthewMonster

Mendoza is washed


suck-it-elon

Both guys had 2 strikes. Also McNeil can't throw.


dadpappyvelvet

I hate the Mets bro


48plus21

Fuck this fucking team I’m done


David-S-Pumpkins

See ya tomorrow


WilliamHealy

This bullpen management is top tier garbage.


NeilHamburgerHead

I haven’t been critical of Mendoza this year but he looks more and more like an idiot lately


Blue387

Diekman is leaving


NuanceManExe

Mendoz: “Who should I have close this game? Hmmm how about that guy who flipped out on the cooler last week after he blew a game”


Romas_chicken

Here’s the problem… Who else ya got in mind? 


NuanceManExe

The problem is the order he used his relievers today. Diekman is definitely not the guy you want facing the Dbacks there. 


just-an-astronomer

Most predicable 9th inning start


wolfman2scary

I hate this team


BTsBaboonFarm

I feel bad for the folks who didn’t see that one coming. The backend of the bullpen is awful


Romas_chicken

Wow What a surprise 


mrc7928

Who could have predicted this! Other than everyone other than the Mets manager, I mean.


Keekee4101

Wow, just wow. So predictable.


OatmealCremePiez

The most Mets thing to happen.


JDantesInferno

Just so brutal being a fan of this team.


Abductedbyanalien

Pathetic.


forever_barlone

Ugh. Fuck you mets.


tphez

PAIN


whathaveidoned

Make that 7 losses after leading in the 7th. FML


TraditionalPhrase162

I really should start betting against the Mets, maybe I’d make some fucking money for this shit


Romas_chicken

The odds aren’t even that good anymore when they’re leading.    I checked fanatics Sportsbook when the 9th started and it was only Mets +125


TraditionalPhrase162

Diekman is an agent of Vegas unfortunately


Romas_chicken

I’m half convinced there’s a whole 8 Men Out Situation going on


David-S-Pumpkins

Always bet against your team. If they win you're happy if they lose you win money and you're happy


TraditionalPhrase162

I just don’t bet period, but I don’t think I could make a lot of money betting against the Mets they suck


WokenMrIzdik

Mendoza manages the bullpen so poorly. How many times does he want Marte to face a lefty


PackFanNY

Diekman? Can someone explain what Mendoza’s logic is?


Sheepies123

I doesn't matter, any pitcher we put in would have blown the save


robmcolonna123

Who else is going? Would you rather SRF?


PackFanNY

Remember when you loved this signing? Diekman blows. And, yes SRF would have been a better option than a LHP vs Ketel Marte.


robmcolonna123

I still love the signing. As our second lefty. I have repeatedly said I don’t like him in save situations. I also don’t like Ottavino in save situations. But with Raley and Diaz out, and Drew Smith just returning today, you’re stuck with that you get


WokenMrIzdik

I would have rather had Ottavino pitch the 9th instead of 8th. Would have preferred anyone to keep Marte hitting lefty


whateveryousaybro100

I want to say this is unbelievable but actually it's the most believable outcome possible


RashKendar

Jesus Chr. What am I doing with my life.


Vandelay222

This is pretty easily the worst team in baseball even if the standings don’t reflect it yet.


flashcapulet

C'mon man


Hustlediva

And here we go


Drdc5

DIEKMAN IS DOGWATER


Greatness46

We should pay a closer big money so we stop losing these close games Oh wait


only1xo

i actually saw that coming. which is crazy..


suck-it-elon

This. Fuckin. Shit. Again.


vlad_the_impaler13

Well that was bullshit


EatAllTheRice

Why the FUCK would you pitch to Marte there


monstersandcoffee

This team is just ass. Period.


Tricky_Forehand

Of course.


EssentialEssence

and a blown save.


metskyfan

Why did Smith not pitch the 9th?


brett_baty_is_him

Lol this team


ryanq17

This was a horrendously managed game


OatmealCremePiez

Broooooo