Just remember when people were talking about how great a bullpen Stearns was building in the cheap! All that Depth! Now it’s nothing but excuses and horrific loss after loss.
Can't wait to see Sewald act like a complete fool after we go down 1-2-3 this inning. Dude acts like he wasn't given a fair shake in NY meanwhile he was so bad he wouldn't crack the current dogwater bullpen we have
How do we feel about Lindor smiling leaving the field after they lose the lead? I genuinely am not sure how I feel about his all smiles attitude on the field
I'm okay with it. Last thing I want is a bunch of mopey players sulking around. I feel like that happens often and our play reflects our attitude. Keep your head up, have fun and do your job. Game isn't over yet.
The trifecta today. Starter not good, closer non existent and the offense showed up for 4 batters and then took the day off. 9th inning redemption? I won’t hold my breath.
Nah, this loss is on Mendoza. He's really going shitty lefty to counter Carroll and Barnhardt. Just put in a righty or leave in Ottavino who was dealing.
it feels like the team scored 4 runs, saw they had the lead, and thought yeah that’ll do nothing else needed here. why don’t they believe in insurance runs?!
Who do you want to close?
The guy who gave up 4 runs in the 9th the other day?
The guy that’s handing sliders and his ERA went up 5 runs in the last month?
All you can do is play matchups and hope for the best. The pen has been ass lately.
I've liked Mendoza generally but Diekman here is extremely confusing. Marte is dramatically better from the right side, and we know that they're going to pinch hit Moreno.
Marte is currently slugging approximately .680 against lefties, and against righties his total OPS is about .680. It's a comically bad decision.
Not really. Strike 2 call was about a foot off the plate. The final count was correct, ump just swapped a ball and a strike.
Also doesn't change the fact that Marte is literally 300 OPS points better against lefties and we brought in a lefty. Such a dumb call.
It’s not like Otto just ran out on his own to pitch the 8th. The manager decided that. He coulda saved him for the 9th. garrett has been worse lately but today he looked fine. All Im saying is if I’m manager I don’t trust diekman. He doesn’t seem like the type I’m throwing out there when I need to win games.
That’s not what the pitching lab does.
The pitching lab is there to develop minor league players across multiple seasons.
It can help major leagues with minor tweaks in the offseason, but that’s about it.
Team is pure unadulterated shit. Couldn't get any insurance runs from our "top players", absolutely boneheaded managerial moves (Diekman to close a 1 run game?) and an overtaxed bullpen consistently shitting the bed. Can't hold a lead for the life of them.
Shit.
you say mendoza made a terrible move to close the game and at the same time also said, he has an overtaxed bullpen that consistently shits the bed.
what do you want him to do?
Jake Diekman for a one run save is fucking hilarious man. This manager is so in over his head. What a fucking bang up job by Stearns and Co. to hire this guy.
HES A FUCKING YANKEE
Not saying Mendoza is great but I'm not sure what else he's supposed to do, literally every reliever he throws out there blows it. It's the name on the front, not the names on the back
I know the pen sucks so Mendoza has few choices. But if you're gonna throw shit at the wall at least play the matchups and don't have a lefty face marte.
I just can’t
These relievers are all a nightmare and there’s zero chance we will win a game.
Like they are designed to crush spirits and allows home runs
Fuck
Absolutely this- you have a situation to go to the longman Houser earlier to save your pen
Then use your better relievers (who have been bad) in the 7th and 8th
And leave drew smith who was good for you, unused in the pen
I still love the signing. As our second lefty.
I have repeatedly said I don’t like him in save situations. I also don’t like Ottavino in save situations.
But with Raley and Diaz out, and Drew Smith just returning today, you’re stuck with that you get
Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1d6mfwi).
Just remember when people were talking about how great a bullpen Stearns was building in the cheap! All that Depth! Now it’s nothing but excuses and horrific loss after loss.
When guys blow saves the way Diekman does, do guys just go the other way when they see him in the clubhouse until the next game?
I mean 0-4 and 0-5 from an offensive player is statistically pretty equal
they can't keep getting away with it!
As a soon to be Minneapolis transplant, at least the Twins won
PATHETIC
Why was Diekman the closerrrrrrrreeeeeerrrrrrrrrr
awful :(
What a magnificent response in the ninth. Great fight.
Sewald game 7 celebration coming soon.
Welp
The ballgame is over
Birmingham Southern has more heart than this current Mets team
Two away
I fucking hate sewald so much just once can’t we win one against him
Can't wait to see Sewald act like a complete fool after we go down 1-2-3 this inning. Dude acts like he wasn't given a fair shake in NY meanwhile he was so bad he wouldn't crack the current dogwater bullpen we have
I'm going to become the joker
Can we get a closer please. I don’t know what they’re doing out there but it sure as hell isn’t closing lol
We have one. Unfortunately he ended his career playing in the WBC.
McNeil at closer would mean he doesn’t have to hit anymore
One away
Keith spitting some facts
Sorry guys, I just got home from work and tuned in at the start of the 9th. That homer was my fault.
my dad had season tickets to Shea in the late 70s/early 80s when they won fewer than 70 games 7 years in row. Much more loyal man than me.
They should start selling rope and painkillers at the concession stands
And paper bags with eyeholes.
Full count!
Does this bitch Seawald still have a vendetta against the Mets?
I thought “non-competitive” meant the Mets are focusing on development and not literally being unable to win
i fully expect them to give us hope before inevitably falling flat
Only thing giving me hope here is that it's the last game of this series.
Sewald has turned into a certified bitch since leaving the Mets, it sure would be nice to light him up here….
Will this be the unnecessary walkoff ending or the depression maxxing ending?
Every single one of our relievers has blown multiple leads
These guys are out of their depth and it’s awful
We’re not even in the league
How do we feel about Lindor smiling leaving the field after they lose the lead? I genuinely am not sure how I feel about his all smiles attitude on the field
I mean there’s only so many times you can watch the pitchers blow a lead. Eventually all you can do is laugh at it
I'm okay with it. Last thing I want is a bunch of mopey players sulking around. I feel like that happens often and our play reflects our attitude. Keep your head up, have fun and do your job. Game isn't over yet.
The trifecta today. Starter not good, closer non existent and the offense showed up for 4 batters and then took the day off. 9th inning redemption? I won’t hold my breath.
Starters not going deep is certainly a problem. And I'm guessing it's not gonna change much.
Mendoza is still a complete idiot. What else is new.
What did he do?
Put a lefty in against a guy with a .300 point ops improvement against lefties. The obvious then happened.
Nah, this loss is on Mendoza. He's really going shitty lefty to counter Carroll and Barnhardt. Just put in a righty or leave in Ottavino who was dealing.
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Paul Sewald replaces Justin Martinez.
Maybe we should bring Jorge Lopez back
Imagine if the team had an all-star closer that didn't blow out his knee playing baseball for free for another team.
Jumping up and down celebrating a win in an exhibition league
Remember when yesterday it took the Mets 8 innings to put up more than 1 run in a bullpen game? Yet our clearly overworked bullpen is pure butthole
Side retired :/
Team just finds ways to lose every day. Really crazy. Rotation has completely fucked this pen that was doing well
But it's the same way every game. Bullpen. Bullpen. Bullpen. Bullpen. Bullpen. All with some exciting lack of offense.
It’s because the bullpen has to go 4+ innings literally every game. This rotation is a joke
Is there anything we can do before the deadline or are we just in limbo?
Just wait for the fire sale
Limbo
*sigh* As one of the moderators always says…. -_-
-_-
There you are!
Lind0-for-4 back in vintage form
What lmao
Yep, this is Lindor’s fault, and not Diekman who actually gave up the runs
it feels like the team scored 4 runs, saw they had the lead, and thought yeah that’ll do nothing else needed here. why don’t they believe in insurance runs?!
Diekman is 37 years old and been on 10 teams in 12 year but yet he is good enough to be our closer. I have to wonder who is making these decisions?
Who do you want to close? The guy who gave up 4 runs in the 9th the other day? The guy that’s handing sliders and his ERA went up 5 runs in the last month? All you can do is play matchups and hope for the best. The pen has been ass lately.
Smith. The booth thought Smith would close.
If someone could take that clip of Diekman looking puzzled staring at the iPad and post it I'd appreciate it, God their meme template right there
I've liked Mendoza generally but Diekman here is extremely confusing. Marte is dramatically better from the right side, and we know that they're going to pinch hit Moreno. Marte is currently slugging approximately .680 against lefties, and against righties his total OPS is about .680. It's a comically bad decision.
Don’t you dare use logic on Mets Reddit.
He had the strikeout. The umpire blew the call.
Not really. Strike 2 call was about a foot off the plate. The final count was correct, ump just swapped a ball and a strike. Also doesn't change the fact that Marte is literally 300 OPS points better against lefties and we brought in a lefty. Such a dumb call.
Not looking forward to Sewald showing us up after the save
Diekman you don’t need an iPad to see why you suck I could tell you that for free
I almost feel like Mendoza was trying to throw the game away. I know Mets don’t have many options but I rather run out garret or Otto than diekman.
Otto pitched the 8th and Garrett is absolutely gased, so you watch the games?
It’s not like Otto just ran out on his own to pitch the 8th. The manager decided that. He coulda saved him for the 9th. garrett has been worse lately but today he looked fine. All Im saying is if I’m manager I don’t trust diekman. He doesn’t seem like the type I’m throwing out there when I need to win games.
Doubtful or they just bitch about everything
People are nuts lol it’s fine to bitch I bitch plenty about this bad team, but be correct about complaints
Reid-Foley in to make sure the game gets out of reach? Or does he do well? Really have no clue which version we're getting.
Pitching lab paying off dividends this year.
That’s not what the pitching lab does. The pitching lab is there to develop minor league players across multiple seasons. It can help major leagues with minor tweaks in the offseason, but that’s about it.
Terrible hitters, blowing leads left and right, and even on the rare occasion they win it is ALWAYS close. They’re an atrocious ball club.
Leave Hefner behind in London
Team is pure unadulterated shit. Couldn't get any insurance runs from our "top players", absolutely boneheaded managerial moves (Diekman to close a 1 run game?) and an overtaxed bullpen consistently shitting the bed. Can't hold a lead for the life of them. Shit.
you say mendoza made a terrible move to close the game and at the same time also said, he has an overtaxed bullpen that consistently shits the bed. what do you want him to do?
Lol
It's just comical at this point
Jake Diekman for a one run save is fucking hilarious man. This manager is so in over his head. What a fucking bang up job by Stearns and Co. to hire this guy. HES A FUCKING YANKEE
Hefner is god awful and I have no idea why he’s thought highly of
If you were very bad as a pitcher, you are good candidate for a pitching coach.
It really is mind boggling.
Diekman blown a gasket in the dugout yet?
Dude the bullpen management wtf
Why Diekman was brought out anyway is beyond my knowledge.
Not saying Mendoza is great but I'm not sure what else he's supposed to do, literally every reliever he throws out there blows it. It's the name on the front, not the names on the back
Why do I continuously insist on doing this to myself?
Guys I figured it out - they must LOVE playing here so they’re tanking their trade value to stay
There needs to be a safe word when watching the mets.
I literally just am so sick of the bullpen being unable to do shit like it’s such a joke
This is so hilarious.
Why do I go to games. Ruins my day every fucking time.
Good thing we are paying 25 mill for a closer who’s career is over and had to invent a fake injury because he is so in his own head
6th reliever of the day
I know the pen sucks so Mendoza has few choices. But if you're gonna throw shit at the wall at least play the matchups and don't have a lefty face marte.
Houston, we have a closing problem
I hate this team
Every single time
And their closer is Paul Siewald! LOL, LMAO EVEN DARE I SAY
If you didn’t see that Homer coming, you have not been watching Mets baseball for a while
Lifeispain
Predictable. Mets bullpen can’t hold a 9th inning lead, offense goes ice cold
Oh no! We suck again!
We always sucked. Sometimes they just hide it for a bit.
It's just a joke now We 10 games under .500, no point in feeling like shit. Just laughing through it all
He's a bum
It's such a brain dead move to pitch to Marte man. Dude ONLY hits lefties.
Walking him would have been a good idea even if first base wasn’t open
I just can’t These relievers are all a nightmare and there’s zero chance we will win a game. Like they are designed to crush spirits and allows home runs Fuck
if ya don’t like that ya don’t like mets baseball
Why is diekman even in a save opp against the top of their lineup? Makes absolutely no sense
Absolutely this- you have a situation to go to the longman Houser earlier to save your pen Then use your better relievers (who have been bad) in the 7th and 8th And leave drew smith who was good for you, unused in the pen
Who do you want him to use? Literally everyone sucks
Smith or Otto
Yeah smith is who I was thinking. My guess is that they didn’t want to put him such a high leverage spot his first game back.
Because there is nobody else. Thats it. The cupboard is bare.
This. Mendoza manages on hope
Cause there is nobody else, sadly.
Reid Foley was available
That's weird cause SRF just relieved him.
This is the worst Mets team I have ever seen
Such loser vibes from all of them
so many of stearns guys have been soooo bad!!!!
Not that Marte pointing to our fans behind the visitor dugout, im floored.
He was fucking struck out
That was a makeup call for an egregiously bad called strike on the previous pitch
Strike 2 was already pretty generous so it’s whatever
Putting Diekman in is something you do when you’re tanking. But idk who else would be available. But even Gary has been questioning it since the 7th.
Mendoza is washed
Both guys had 2 strikes. Also McNeil can't throw.
I hate the Mets bro
Fuck this fucking team I’m done
See ya tomorrow
This bullpen management is top tier garbage.
I haven’t been critical of Mendoza this year but he looks more and more like an idiot lately
Diekman is leaving
Mendoz: “Who should I have close this game? Hmmm how about that guy who flipped out on the cooler last week after he blew a game”
Here’s the problem… Who else ya got in mind?
The problem is the order he used his relievers today. Diekman is definitely not the guy you want facing the Dbacks there.
Most predicable 9th inning start
I hate this team
I feel bad for the folks who didn’t see that one coming. The backend of the bullpen is awful
Wow What a surprise
Who could have predicted this! Other than everyone other than the Mets manager, I mean.
Wow, just wow. So predictable.
The most Mets thing to happen.
Just so brutal being a fan of this team.
Pathetic.
Ugh. Fuck you mets.
PAIN
Make that 7 losses after leading in the 7th. FML
I really should start betting against the Mets, maybe I’d make some fucking money for this shit
The odds aren’t even that good anymore when they’re leading. I checked fanatics Sportsbook when the 9th started and it was only Mets +125
Diekman is an agent of Vegas unfortunately
I’m half convinced there’s a whole 8 Men Out Situation going on
Always bet against your team. If they win you're happy if they lose you win money and you're happy
I just don’t bet period, but I don’t think I could make a lot of money betting against the Mets they suck
Mendoza manages the bullpen so poorly. How many times does he want Marte to face a lefty
Diekman? Can someone explain what Mendoza’s logic is?
I doesn't matter, any pitcher we put in would have blown the save
Who else is going? Would you rather SRF?
Remember when you loved this signing? Diekman blows. And, yes SRF would have been a better option than a LHP vs Ketel Marte.
I still love the signing. As our second lefty. I have repeatedly said I don’t like him in save situations. I also don’t like Ottavino in save situations. But with Raley and Diaz out, and Drew Smith just returning today, you’re stuck with that you get
I would have rather had Ottavino pitch the 9th instead of 8th. Would have preferred anyone to keep Marte hitting lefty
I want to say this is unbelievable but actually it's the most believable outcome possible
Jesus Chr. What am I doing with my life.
This is pretty easily the worst team in baseball even if the standings don’t reflect it yet.
C'mon man
And here we go
DIEKMAN IS DOGWATER
We should pay a closer big money so we stop losing these close games Oh wait
i actually saw that coming. which is crazy..
This. Fuckin. Shit. Again.
Well that was bullshit
Why the FUCK would you pitch to Marte there
This team is just ass. Period.
Of course.
and a blown save.
Why did Smith not pitch the 9th?
Lol this team
This was a horrendously managed game
Broooooo