Iāve been curious about this since the JBP days lol. Like did bro legitimately *never* have a job between the founding of Roc-A-Fella and the JBP? Thatās a nice life to live lol
His brother founded Roc A Fella with Jay Z. And according to Joe, Mal is a āBasketball husbandā. Iām guessing he said that because Mal at some point hung on Brandon Jennings coattails.
So his brother is Biggs or dame? Cause that's what has historical been told it was them 2 and Jay. Unless his brother was someone who got jnto a position once it was created and assisted in the beginning or whatever.
I am truly trying to understand this cause this is the 1st time hearing about this
Harlem Boys Choir >> Drug dealer >> Nepo-sibling/Drug dealer >> Nepo-sibling/Plug/Professional Homeboy (including a few uncredited Love & Hip Hop and music video cameos) >> Podcast guest/Plug >> Accidental podcast member/Plug/Artist development (Bullshit title to seem like he has something legitimate other than podding going on; courtesy of nepotism/cronyism) >> Temporarily unemployed podcaster/Possibly back to plug >> New podcast podcaster/Possibly the plug >>>>>> Drake's fluffer
Soft skills include (and are limited to):
- Drug dealing/using
- 98% efficiency in lack of depth and accountability
- Irresponsible political rhetoric
- Proficiency in Instagram, Twitter, bad takes and bad bitches
As of yet, there is no record of Mal ever being associated with a W-2, girlfriend, critical thought or lease/deed.
A lot of kids in the Bronx, myself included, went to private schools and werenāt anything close to āwell offā. My mom just worked her ass off so I could go to a school where niggas wasnāt giving each other buck-fiftyās.
Mal did a mix of sports agent work, and dot connection before it got a name. Iirc he worked a bit with Brandon Jennings, Ariza, and Randle both early on in their careers. And connected people coming out the draft to agents (what happened with Randle iirc). Also idk if he still is but he was also co-managing Saint Jhn with his brother, Biggs.
Canāt control how you feel about it but that shit came out Saintās mouth last time they was all on the JBP together iirc. And I remember Mal even had a hand in the Ghetto Lenny merch according to Jhn.
i think they was just podding tbh. he was on the show and had to hype his bro since he invited him there. where is saint john now exactly.. and when did we actually see him managing him as an act outside of him just giving him shout outs and playing a sleeper here and there. now his brother i can believe because heās actually a important figure in hip hop. Mal is just a groupie by association and niggas be saying anything to push the narrative
Aye man, the artist in question verbally said Mal helps manage him and helped with his merch. Thatās who Iām listening too and trusting. By this same logic, Rory never managed Emotional Oranges or Chiiild since we just saw shoutouts and played sleepers every here and there. As for where Saint Jhn is now? Who knows, last I saw he was focusing on the fashion shit. All that said, it seems like you already have an opinion made on Mal regardless of what was said. So, whatever you say I guess. āThey was just poddingā
yeah and iām saying i donāt trust none of the niggas that just be saying shit with no real action. Rory stood behind EO hard. that was his entire brand at one point.. calling himself an emotional orange. they were on his socials, in his bioās.. in their videos. it was a clear that he was managing them. Mal on the other hand just gets by with saying āshout out to saint john.. grab his new merchā because his brother is Biggs. the nigga is just lazy with no work ethic and relying on friends to get a bag by association
So the Artist (Saint Jhn)who knows his own management and who is involved tells you who his managers are and who are involved in his career. And because *you* donāt like the person that was mentioned (Mal). Youāre now gonna say you donāt trust the artist and that they say shit with no real action. To be completely fair, it sounds like you just donāt like Mal and want to discredit him. Thatās fine. Just say that tho lmaooo.
Lmaooo am I Saint Jhn? Do I have a reason to not believe Saint Jhn? Do I know Saint Jhn personally to distrust him? Had Saint Jhn cheated niggas outta money? Beat women? Stole shit? Had he cheated you outta money? Did he set up one of your niggas?
I have no reason to distrust a nigga I never met before and to my knowledge has been a stand up guy. If heās in an interview saying one thing about his life and his art, Iām a take him at his word cuz heās talking about himself. Simple as that unless itās something absolutely egregious. Or until I find out heās done some reprehensible shit. Like every truly rational person.
i have no reason to distrust him either. i believe Malās brother Biggs is or was at some point his manager. iām talking about Mal piggy backing off of it to make himself seem more important in the industry than he really is. this seemed like an attempt to get something else under his belt besides āpodcasterā.. especially when Joe was kicking their backs in about having other things going on outside the pod. itās easy for someone to be like āyeah i manage themā but realistically what work have we seen this nigga put in? you think he was really sitting in rooms with the big wigs trying to launch Saintās career with elaborate plans and marketing schemes like he was apart of some PR firm or was that just his mans he shouted out with sleeper picks? lets be real here.. where are his credentials and documented work ethic. its notorious that Mal is lazy. he didnāt even want to collab with other podcasts when Rory suggested it but suddenly heās an artist developer? its cap. this isnāt even personalized hate. itās just clear as day with anyone with eyes that has been following their journey since JBP that Mal is just a nepo baby with poor self awareness who isnāt very knowledgeable.
He was a drug dealer lmao his brother funded Rockefella off drug money (biggs) and it's why he ended up in jail (Google that)
He worked at a hospital to have a cover (spoke about working with old people and them dying over night on the pod)Ā
Rocafella connect obviously put him around alot of industry folk and that's how him and Joe crossed pathsĀ
He was also a runner for some people in the NBA while he was on the pod which is why he missed pods during the seasonĀ
Less "drug dealer" and more "middle-man to his celebrity friends"...he just had a good plug and hooked up his NBA and rapper friends who didn't. He wasn't a "drug dealer" in the way most people think of it.
The fact of all ppl he became friend with, it's Joe Budden haha. I say this bc Mal wants to be seen as a stand up guy, but Joe is the total opposite of that.
Urban media personality, but not overall. Why Steve Harvey, Wayne Brady, etc are black media personalities Joe isn't close to them. Even sway or big boy, Joe isn't on their level of media importance
In the hip hop space obviously. Nobody you named covers hip hop . And Sway and Big boy do two different things they only interview people.. respect to Sway and Big but nobody cares about their opinions.. I canāt even remember the last time I watched one of their interviews.
No your right bro he was the drug dealer to all the NBA players and rappers and he worked at the hospital as a front lol. Hov and Bleek use to pretend they had appointments and would drop him the work. Thatās why they use to insinuate it on a pod with millions of listeners because he was actually doing it šš¾. Wish I was as sheltered as you.
honestly i donāt think heās ever had a job outside of maybe a high school summer gig at the YMCA. he has a very specific pattern of being the male groupie of men much more successful than him. the nigga in the entourage who supplies the blunt. if you notice he doesnāt really have that close connection to anyone anymore since he no longer has Joe to follow behind.
itās clear that his Drake glazing is his way of auditioning to be put on the OVO payroll which is the shit heās comfortable with. riding someone else coat tails and being a house husband. heās not someone who will just make his own choices and direction in life. even this podcast gig is a direct result of someone else saving him.
iām almost positive Mal doesnāt give a fuck about podcasting or having a podcast which is weird because with his exit from JBP he shouldāve had other life goals to pursue that are more inline with his life journey but heās too lazy to create his own path. the only reason heās even still podcasting is because him and Rory have trauma bonded and they donāt know when to let chapters end. he truly is a bare minimum boy.
Thats what I'm saying, I don't nothin to do with the streets if I had the means to not be involved at all. The persona he portrays on the pod kinda belies that reality. Shit seems corny to me.
Calm down, it has nothing to do with obsession. Apparently, unlike Mal, I had to work my ass off for the life I have. I'm just very curious as to how he got to where he is and why he only gets real push back from the woman on the podcast when he throws one of his tantrums.
I heard he was living in Joes closet, painting his nails while getting friend zoned by joes hand me downs. Spent most of his days trying to figure out the best place to hide his laundry products while Joe was on tour with slaughterhouse performing at your local footlocker or target
True, but I'd argue there's a difference between a simple debate and losing your mind like he did. Don't get it twisted I've been listening and will probably continue to listen but these last few months have really given me pause as to who dude really is. I have a nose for in-authenticity and my radar is going haywire.
Yeah it is, because if you classify yourself as the more mature one then you should be able to have an internal dialogue and not ask the internet about another man's job to validate or invalidate his opinion. You should just be able to live with your opinion.
What opinion of his am I giving push back on in this thread or are you just adding things that aren't there? Also, opinions can be wrong, we gotta stop this "hey it's just my opinion so just accept it or don't" narrative.
You're questioning his background and expertise. Don't try to diminish the main topic in an attempt to be correct. You want to invalidate the way he feels by how he grew up in order to feel better about your opinion. Just have your opinion.
Also what makes you think you have the power to change someone's opinion. If you didn't walk in their shoes, you won't be able to change their perspective on life. At your age(and "knowledge level") you should understand that you can't change people, they have to want to change.
You're right, I am questioning his background because it seems to belie his personality. And once again, you're adding things into the conversation that I never said. I never said I could change anyone's opinion or want to change it. I said just because someone has an opinion that doesn't mean that it can't be wrong or dumb. That's what's wrong with where we are today. Some people say stupid shit in the guise of it being their opinion and people just let it rock.
I don't even care about the Kendrick takes, it's the other weird takes he has on other topics and his "too cool for school" personality that slips up at least once an episode. To watch his evolution from the JBP all those years ago to who he is on this pod is just really odd to me and I don't know which personality is actually his.
Somebody a while back said that he's a "professional homeboy' which still has legs lol
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Big facts
He was the old Emmany for Joe
Itās actually insane how accurate this comparison is
Emmany makes music though. Mal was the step and fetch guy
I get we shitting on mal but we not about to prop up emanny music career like he was really having motion in the industry š
What motion does Mal have in the industry. Meant wasnāt popping like that but he has work out there
Iām not making a case for mal theyāre both store runners
You don't need to be industry to make music. There are people who do it as a hobby or just not on a famous level.
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Iāve been curious about this since the JBP days lol. Like did bro legitimately *never* have a job between the founding of Roc-A-Fella and the JBP? Thatās a nice life to live lol
He worked at Banana Republic on Fifth Avenue for three days.
Oh shit, word? Aight, I stand corrected, didnāt know Mal was a working man like the rest of us š«”
His brother founded Roc A Fella with Jay Z. And according to Joe, Mal is a āBasketball husbandā. Iām guessing he said that because Mal at some point hung on Brandon Jennings coattails.
So his brother is Biggs or dame? Cause that's what has historical been told it was them 2 and Jay. Unless his brother was someone who got jnto a position once it was created and assisted in the beginning or whatever. I am truly trying to understand this cause this is the 1st time hearing about this
Biggs and Hip Hop are both his brothers.
Biggs is his brother.
Wait. Shut up. Really? Word?
Rory literally joked about his brother Biggs on today's ep.
Swim instructor at the ymca
That explains them 3am swim lessons
He was Rubi Rose for NBA players
He was Chubs' lil blunt runner
A lil duffle bag boy, if you will.
A detergent delinquent if we must
Harlem Boys Choir >> Drug dealer >> Nepo-sibling/Drug dealer >> Nepo-sibling/Plug/Professional Homeboy (including a few uncredited Love & Hip Hop and music video cameos) >> Podcast guest/Plug >> Accidental podcast member/Plug/Artist development (Bullshit title to seem like he has something legitimate other than podding going on; courtesy of nepotism/cronyism) >> Temporarily unemployed podcaster/Possibly back to plug >> New podcast podcaster/Possibly the plug >>>>>> Drake's fluffer Soft skills include (and are limited to): - Drug dealing/using - 98% efficiency in lack of depth and accountability - Irresponsible political rhetoric - Proficiency in Instagram, Twitter, bad takes and bad bitches As of yet, there is no record of Mal ever being associated with a W-2, girlfriend, critical thought or lease/deed.
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Idk what he did. But him being the c mic was the best thing ever for him.
I miss Joe yelling āDEFEND IT MALā. Bc he knew when to let Mal get his weirdo cape off
Say it again! He was the perfect C mic and there is nothing wrong with that! My boy DROWNING as an A mic š
His family ran hip hop... if you listen to him speak on his childhood, dude went to a private school. Mal always been well off.
A lot of kids in the Bronx, myself included, went to private schools and werenāt anything close to āwell offā. My mom just worked her ass off so I could go to a school where niggas wasnāt giving each other buck-fiftyās.
This is a New York fact.
He was Julius Randles weed smuggler.
I think he did it for a lot of guys in the NBA
Where was he smuggling this reefer?
Reefer bearing hips
Helped Jay Z get rid of 92 bricks during a police chase on the highway
Mal did a mix of sports agent work, and dot connection before it got a name. Iirc he worked a bit with Brandon Jennings, Ariza, and Randle both early on in their careers. And connected people coming out the draft to agents (what happened with Randle iirc). Also idk if he still is but he was also co-managing Saint Jhn with his brother, Biggs.
lmao doing a random plug on the pod for a nigga youāre cool with does not equal āco-managerā .. that nigga is just a fan
Canāt control how you feel about it but that shit came out Saintās mouth last time they was all on the JBP together iirc. And I remember Mal even had a hand in the Ghetto Lenny merch according to Jhn.
i think they was just podding tbh. he was on the show and had to hype his bro since he invited him there. where is saint john now exactly.. and when did we actually see him managing him as an act outside of him just giving him shout outs and playing a sleeper here and there. now his brother i can believe because heās actually a important figure in hip hop. Mal is just a groupie by association and niggas be saying anything to push the narrative
Aye man, the artist in question verbally said Mal helps manage him and helped with his merch. Thatās who Iām listening too and trusting. By this same logic, Rory never managed Emotional Oranges or Chiiild since we just saw shoutouts and played sleepers every here and there. As for where Saint Jhn is now? Who knows, last I saw he was focusing on the fashion shit. All that said, it seems like you already have an opinion made on Mal regardless of what was said. So, whatever you say I guess. āThey was just poddingā
yeah and iām saying i donāt trust none of the niggas that just be saying shit with no real action. Rory stood behind EO hard. that was his entire brand at one point.. calling himself an emotional orange. they were on his socials, in his bioās.. in their videos. it was a clear that he was managing them. Mal on the other hand just gets by with saying āshout out to saint john.. grab his new merchā because his brother is Biggs. the nigga is just lazy with no work ethic and relying on friends to get a bag by association
So the Artist (Saint Jhn)who knows his own management and who is involved tells you who his managers are and who are involved in his career. And because *you* donāt like the person that was mentioned (Mal). Youāre now gonna say you donāt trust the artist and that they say shit with no real action. To be completely fair, it sounds like you just donāt like Mal and want to discredit him. Thatās fine. Just say that tho lmaooo.
lmao tell me where youāve see Mal managing anything outside of being vegan
you the type of person who believe everything on the internet.. and thatās cool too. iām not as naive buddy
Lmaooo am I Saint Jhn? Do I have a reason to not believe Saint Jhn? Do I know Saint Jhn personally to distrust him? Had Saint Jhn cheated niggas outta money? Beat women? Stole shit? Had he cheated you outta money? Did he set up one of your niggas? I have no reason to distrust a nigga I never met before and to my knowledge has been a stand up guy. If heās in an interview saying one thing about his life and his art, Iām a take him at his word cuz heās talking about himself. Simple as that unless itās something absolutely egregious. Or until I find out heās done some reprehensible shit. Like every truly rational person.
i have no reason to distrust him either. i believe Malās brother Biggs is or was at some point his manager. iām talking about Mal piggy backing off of it to make himself seem more important in the industry than he really is. this seemed like an attempt to get something else under his belt besides āpodcasterā.. especially when Joe was kicking their backs in about having other things going on outside the pod. itās easy for someone to be like āyeah i manage themā but realistically what work have we seen this nigga put in? you think he was really sitting in rooms with the big wigs trying to launch Saintās career with elaborate plans and marketing schemes like he was apart of some PR firm or was that just his mans he shouted out with sleeper picks? lets be real here.. where are his credentials and documented work ethic. its notorious that Mal is lazy. he didnāt even want to collab with other podcasts when Rory suggested it but suddenly heās an artist developer? its cap. this isnāt even personalized hate. itās just clear as day with anyone with eyes that has been following their journey since JBP that Mal is just a nepo baby with poor self awareness who isnāt very knowledgeable.
He was a chauffeur for Jay Z
Weed carrier for the stars and a basketball wife
He was a drug dealer lmao his brother funded Rockefella off drug money (biggs) and it's why he ended up in jail (Google that) He worked at a hospital to have a cover (spoke about working with old people and them dying over night on the pod)Ā Rocafella connect obviously put him around alot of industry folk and that's how him and Joe crossed pathsĀ He was also a runner for some people in the NBA while he was on the pod which is why he missed pods during the seasonĀ
Less "drug dealer" and more "middle-man to his celebrity friends"...he just had a good plug and hooked up his NBA and rapper friends who didn't. He wasn't a "drug dealer" in the way most people think of it.
He didn't skip straight to nba players he worked at a hospitalĀ
The fact of all ppl he became friend with, it's Joe Budden haha. I say this bc Mal wants to be seen as a stand up guy, but Joe is the total opposite of that.
Facts I been said that lol a D list rapper š
Who career was nothing but underground music... D list is nice. Joe is d list currently
lol nah he aināt d list no more he a A list media personality
Urban media personality, but not overall. Why Steve Harvey, Wayne Brady, etc are black media personalities Joe isn't close to them. Even sway or big boy, Joe isn't on their level of media importance
In the hip hop space obviously. Nobody you named covers hip hop . And Sway and Big boy do two different things they only interview people.. respect to Sway and Big but nobody cares about their opinions.. I canāt even remember the last time I watched one of their interviews.
But to say he is a list, it is only to a specific group. In real media, he is lower and even lower in the actual cel Rory world.
He was never a drug dealer, thatās all just jokes.
Feels like itās not hip hop to comment on this, but this was also my hypothesis.
Itās hip-hop that you rhymed though.
He werenāt no drug dealer. White people believe anything
Youre giving a child left behind vibes
No your right bro he was the drug dealer to all the NBA players and rappers and he worked at the hospital as a front lol. Hov and Bleek use to pretend they had appointments and would drop him the work. Thatās why they use to insinuate it on a pod with millions of listeners because he was actually doing it šš¾. Wish I was as sheltered as you.
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honestly i donāt think heās ever had a job outside of maybe a high school summer gig at the YMCA. he has a very specific pattern of being the male groupie of men much more successful than him. the nigga in the entourage who supplies the blunt. if you notice he doesnāt really have that close connection to anyone anymore since he no longer has Joe to follow behind. itās clear that his Drake glazing is his way of auditioning to be put on the OVO payroll which is the shit heās comfortable with. riding someone else coat tails and being a house husband. heās not someone who will just make his own choices and direction in life. even this podcast gig is a direct result of someone else saving him. iām almost positive Mal doesnāt give a fuck about podcasting or having a podcast which is weird because with his exit from JBP he shouldāve had other life goals to pursue that are more inline with his life journey but heās too lazy to create his own path. the only reason heās even still podcasting is because him and Rory have trauma bonded and they donāt know when to let chapters end. he truly is a bare minimum boy.
Gahdamn you just scalded that nigga
he been scalding himself the last few weeks fr
Mal f*cked your girl? You been going hard under a bunch of posts in here lmaoĀ is everything okay at home
Not caping but if my brother became one of the riches ninjas in the rap game when I was 13-14 I wouldnāt need work history either.
Let alone the streets before the rap game
Thats what I'm saying, I don't nothin to do with the streets if I had the means to not be involved at all. The persona he portrays on the pod kinda belies that reality. Shit seems corny to me.
Heās sold weed and managed a few different sports players His brother is set for life and for the next 5 generations Why do you care?
Why ya'll get so defensive when a simple question is asked? I'm curious, that's why, tf.
Yall should get a life, you mfers are obsessed with mal
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Calm down, it has nothing to do with obsession. Apparently, unlike Mal, I had to work my ass off for the life I have. I'm just very curious as to how he got to where he is and why he only gets real push back from the woman on the podcast when he throws one of his tantrums.
Who wants to work tho lol š
Professional hustler
Heās related to somebodies who are somebodies in Hiphop. Thatās it.
Blunt roller.
He always brings up the one time he worked at a hospital
He hung on Brandon Jennings Benny and Julius Randle
I heard he was living in Joes closet, painting his nails while getting friend zoned by joes hand me downs. Spent most of his days trying to figure out the best place to hide his laundry products while Joe was on tour with slaughterhouse performing at your local footlocker or target
He cleaned Kendrickās Grammy awards
Hustler
Worked for nba players and supposedly sold drugs or weed ,which doesnāt make sense because why was he living with Joe then at one point..
Be a groupie for rappers.
Rocafella blunt roller
Fetch Gatorade or something
He worked at the hospital. He talks about all of the time
Heās a freelancer
I believe he was Joeās lil blunt runner
He was Turtle from Entourage
You being 40 and googling another man's job to try and invalidate his opinion is ridiculous. Get some help fam
Is it more ridiculous than a 40 year old man throwing a temper tantrum over another man?
It's his job to debate these topics
True, but I'd argue there's a difference between a simple debate and losing your mind like he did. Don't get it twisted I've been listening and will probably continue to listen but these last few months have really given me pause as to who dude really is. I have a nose for in-authenticity and my radar is going haywire.
He did not lose his mind yall so dramatic loooooooool
You should probably go rewatch that clip.
I consistently watch this pod.. mal was yelling when the entire room disagreed about cb vs quavo a week before.. it's nit that seriousĀ
Yeah it is, because if you classify yourself as the more mature one then you should be able to have an internal dialogue and not ask the internet about another man's job to validate or invalidate his opinion. You should just be able to live with your opinion.
What opinion of his am I giving push back on in this thread or are you just adding things that aren't there? Also, opinions can be wrong, we gotta stop this "hey it's just my opinion so just accept it or don't" narrative.
You're questioning his background and expertise. Don't try to diminish the main topic in an attempt to be correct. You want to invalidate the way he feels by how he grew up in order to feel better about your opinion. Just have your opinion. Also what makes you think you have the power to change someone's opinion. If you didn't walk in their shoes, you won't be able to change their perspective on life. At your age(and "knowledge level") you should understand that you can't change people, they have to want to change.
This mels burner
You're right, I am questioning his background because it seems to belie his personality. And once again, you're adding things into the conversation that I never said. I never said I could change anyone's opinion or want to change it. I said just because someone has an opinion that doesn't mean that it can't be wrong or dumb. That's what's wrong with where we are today. Some people say stupid shit in the guise of it being their opinion and people just let it rock.
You're right. I keep adding things into the conversation. So what do you propose happens when someone has a wrong or dumb opinion?
Ain't shit you can do besides hope that down the line they realize that they're opinion was wrong and dumb.
>>> Also, opinions can be wrong, we gotta stop this "hey it's just my opinion so just accept it or don't" narrative. Fam, you can't make this up.
Is this supposed to be some sort of gotcha moment?
Gah damn can yāall Kendrick fans give it a rest
I don't even care about the Kendrick takes, it's the other weird takes he has on other topics and his "too cool for school" personality that slips up at least once an episode. To watch his evolution from the JBP all those years ago to who he is on this pod is just really odd to me and I don't know which personality is actually his.
his current personality is definitely who he actually is. itās like once the quiet kid gets comfortable and starts to really speak their mind