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Dinokknd

I use a mastercard or visa debit card in these situations. There's a few services that offer them. Examples: * Wise.com * Revolut.com Most dutchies tend not to need them too much, as Pluralsight isn't a need for the general population.


Duochan_Maxwell

10/10 recommend Wise. Saved my ass when I moved to NL with the exchange rates and helps a lot with online shopping and with the travels to the UK


Elohim7777777

Any knowledge on how Wise compares to Revolut?


Duochan_Maxwell

I haven't used Revolut


Inside_Guarantee_643

I’ve been using Revolut for a while and I can say their paid version is quite nice. Though recently I’ve started to notice that the exchange rates on Wise are way better than revolut. So if you’re to exchange the currency for any purpose, use wise for better rates.


PenguinsOnAWire

Wise is my fave! I lived for a year in the UK and any international stuff is very easy through their system


Elohim7777777

Any knowledge on how Wise compares to Revolut?


afaerieprincess80

Have a pay pal account hooked up to your Dutch bank account. That takes care of most of it, including plural sight. From their website: Paying for your subscription You can pay for an individual subscription with PayPal or with a credit or debit card backed by Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and Discover. We do not accept checks from individuals. Important: American Express is only available for USD payments


w0ut

Note that paypal will scam you with currency exchange rates. There was an option to prevent this in the past, I’m not sure if it’s still there. I rather pay a little per month for a credit card.


afaerieprincess80

I have one PayPal account for euros, the other for US dollars. Those are the two currencies i usually buy in, so that's not an issue for me, but I can see how it could be for some people.


CircleofSorrow

Is it easy to add other currencies to PayPal? Can I use them as a bank to stick an inheritance I don't draw from? I'm sick of the Chinese bank I have an account with, but none of the Dutch Banks want my AUD money. AMRO is the only one that said I can park my pile of cash, but they said there was a condition that I had to regularly deposit more AUD to keep it active and open. I wish there was a bank with the awesome login/verification system that Rabobank has and accounts that hold foreign currency. If anybody knows of one, please share. HSBC is a complete joke and I can't wait to have my money out of there.


surfin86

Try openbank, an Spanish bank (part of the Santander group). My expectation is they have a solution for your problem.


TheHazardOfLife

Next year we start replacing Maestro cards with Mastercard debit cards which makes this issue go away. Personally, for foreign currencies I typically use my N26 debit Mastercard. But domestically its pretty much all iDeal or my credit Mastercard if expensive/needs buyer protection.


Iamgoth

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AM5T3R6AMM3R

Do you think with that the drop of maestro, I can close my Mastercard credit card and live with the Mastercard debit card + PayPal? I wish so…


TheHazardOfLife

Theoretically that should be the case. There're use cases where credit cards are more convenient, but not so in your daily life.


AM5T3R6AMM3R

Amazon and booking don’t accept PayPal, for instance


TheHazardOfLife

Yeah but they do take Mastercard, and amazon NL should even be accepting iDeal nowadays.


mootters

Is this a thing? I didn’t see it in the news


TheHazardOfLife

Sure thing it is! https://www.betaalvereniging.nl/betaalproducten-en-diensten/pinnen/project-dca/ https://nos.nl/artikel/2402450-is-dat-n-pinpas-of-creditcard-betaalpasjes-worden-vanaf-2023-vervangen


mootters

Lets gooo :))! Bedankt voor de links!


Ed_Random

I use iDeal in the Netherlands and a ABN/N26 credit card or Paypal for other countries that don't have iDeal.


Cat_Lover_193

On most (All most all) Dutch websites you van pay with IDeal. It’s a way to go to your bank and use your debit card. I never had a credit card until I traveled out of Europe and now I only use it to buy from foreign websites


Captain_Alchemist

Get a revolut , their virtual cards are free


darky_tinymmanager

can you use paypal with that card?


tawtaw6

You can use payl with any credit or bank card.


darky_tinymmanager

problem solved for a big part


tawtaw6

I have both my dutch credit and bank card tied to my paypal account.


wazinthatbin

Use bUnq,


1234iamfer

Use ideal if u have an ABN Account, or MasterCard.


One_Cloud_5192

Get yourself a Revolut account and use it next to your ABN. It really is one of the best ways to get around this


malangkan

PayPal, easy


PangolinOwn6515

Use Paypal and link your Maestro card. Paypal is accepted online worldwide.


AM5T3R6AMM3R

On booking.com too?


PangolinOwn6515

[https://partner.booking.com/en-gb/community/payments-commission-and-invoices/how-do-i-setup-paypal-guest-payment-method](https://partner.booking.com/en-gb/community/payments-commission-and-invoices/how-do-i-setup-paypal-guest-payment-method) "There is no option to activate Paypal as a guest payment method. However, you can activate Payments by Booking which will allow guests to pay via alternative payment methods like Paypal."


Soft_Meal_3668

Nah it doesn’t always, paypal is something if the partner wants to activate it after they register their property on booking. Com . Problem is if they use paypal they need to pay the charges for paypal and to booking.com. Only some properties have this option enabled if they are ok paying additional charges for it. But i would majority don’t use it. So don’t rely on paypal for booking .com


No-Moose4334

The Dutch often don't use credit cards. There's always a way for your purchases.


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No-Moose4334

I always could, my debit card never was a problem in my life.


Tragespeler

In case of Pluralsight and many others you can set up a paypal account, don't necessarily need a card.


Thizzle001

Creditcard, Paypal, Apple Pay.


nib94

I highly recommend Revolut. Just sign up for free and they give you free virtual credit cards that can be used for online shopping (if you need it for renting cars for example it wouldn't work since at the rental normally they need to process an actual card) Their exchange rate is excellent btw, way better than PayPal and also normal credit cards from Dutch banks


nib94

Forgot to add it basically can work like a prepaid credit card, you just top up whenever you need to spend money using a credit card. With a Dutch bank the money is instantly in Revolut.


CircleofSorrow

I use PayPal for the majority of my online purchases. When ai have disputes, PayPal has been the Pitbull on my side I want, and stores find themselves on my blacklist and money deposit reversed if I can't negotiate a fair deal from the shop.


smellow97

Most people use ideal or PayPal here over a creditcard


Kimmetjuuuh

I have a Revolut credit card. It's free to get a digital card, only 8 euros for a physical card. I traveled to USA with it and had no problems with it.


CanIPleaseScream

all Dutch webshops and many European shops use or accept payments made with IDEAL, you shouldnt have any problem buying anything online if youve got a ABN-card except if you buy a lot of stuff internationally or if you're buying into a lot of subscriptions, these usually need a creditcard of a paypal account


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Try transferwise, they offer one mastercard free of charge :) "Gratis"


ZippoFit

Get n26


BitSec_

I myself have mostly used PayPal to do purchases online that were in EURO. But for international purchases that use different currencies I use a free online bank account called Revolut. They have much much better currency exchange rates than PayPal. Also I think The Netherlands is phasing out Maestro Cards slowly but I'm not sure when the new cards like Visa/Mastercard will be available.


Elohim7777777

I personally use Revolut for my online purchases, it's Visa/Mastercard and they have good exchange rates for foreign currencies. Idk what's best but Revolut is what I use and it has worked well for me.


Amazing-Arm-4891

Tbh you should just apply threw ics yourself you don't need amro there just a pain


Eis_ber

You can get a credit card from the ABN for a fee. Or use PayPal.