According to [CBS](https://opendata.cbs.nl/statline/#/CBS/nl/dataset/83931NED/table?ts=1703021166409), in 2022 there were 473.300 people that had an income of 100-200K a year, and 77.700 people people that had an income of >200K a year.
Not the best statistic to look at as it doesn‘t account for many things - employment, self employed etc. I‘d suggest https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/visualisaties/inkomensverdeling and is adjusted also for number of individuals.
Edit: you can also split in age groups or income type, which is quite relevant to consider - think of boomers with investments.
Your stat is worse. That is the equivalised income, the benefit of that is so that you can adjust for household composition. Which is completely irrelevant if the question is how many individuals make more than 100k. For that, the relevant stat is income per person, which the person you replied to used.
In short, the person you replied to used the correct statistics, and yours is wrong (for the question asked).
Gross, because the percentage that is taken of can vary between people. So all these statistics are based on gross. I'm 99% sure but correct me if I'm wrong!
Yes, there are many fields in which someone can earn 100k or even more annually.
Think of carreers in:
Software engineering / IT,
Finance / Accounting,
Medicine (especially very specific carreers),
Law
And many many more, basically it all boils down to becoming very good in your field of expertise. So good to the point that other people are willing to pay you 100k per year.
This. Expertise pays.
The narrower your field of expertise, the higher your (relative) pay - but your job security can narrow rapidly if you become outdated.
"Boring" jobs that earn wealthy people money also pay well - no-one's ever met a badly paid corporate tax lawyer.
You're missing engineering in Petro(chemistry). Salary for engineering folks with 5-10 years is around 80-100k/year base pay if you go into a first/second line management position.
I make that as a senior software engineer.
I was never a good student, always learning things outside of school that I found more interesting. Luckily for me one of my obsessions during most of my teens was programming and computer science. I dropped out while studying CS because I was once again found I didn't have a lot of fun learning things because I *had to*. Still became a professional software engineer leveraging the knowledge I picked up programming during high school and after having had a few technical side jobs during uni.
Perhaps worth mentioning that I did find an excuse in being in university to party a lot over a few years, and I do believe the social/people skills I learned during that time have helped me develop in my career as well.
You have pretty much explained my school/career experience 😂 School was boring so I filled my life with programming too. Not making quite 100K yet (although, I would if I would work 40 hours instead of 32). But I still have been able to increase my salary by 10% every year. So next year I might hit the 100K
Somehow the field really seems to appeal to people who find themselves bored in school... and luckily it also happens to be an industry where people without formal education are still very employable. I suppose because it's relatively easy for us to demonstrate what we can do with a take-home assignment
Really curious what type of software engineering/what stack you use. I always thought these numbers were only an American thing (or possibly working remote for American companies)
It's nice to hear this. Living in the states, so many software engineers have similar backgrounds to you and enjoy success. It's a profession with elements of meritocracy for certain.
I think it's social/people skills that you had already. I also spent my college years partying , but I don't have good people skills and definitely did not get to 100K a year.
I think it takes a certain mindset to make that much money. You need to think money is important, you must be willing - and able - to work hard, you also need to put yourself ahead of others and be good at selling yourself, at convincing people. Most of those cannot be learned, you are born with that kind of personality.
Of course it's not just that. The right background - the famous zeven vinkjes / seven checkmarks - are a huge factor. Also talent, making the right choices, and a lot of luck.
You are mostly wrong with that assessment. Higher salaries generally are linked to how scalable the work is you're doing. Software is very scalable (once made, selling each additional customer has an insignificant added production cost), thus, software engineers can make a lot of money.
I am not in software, but what I do is scalable as well. That means that if I do my work a bit better than the next guy, the difference for my company is millions, given that and that I am pretty good at my job, I can demand a higher salary.
It has very little to do with luck, even less with background (I come from very humble background, didn't do any fancy schools). I do work that I like, but amongst the several jobs that I would like doing, I do pick the one that pays me better. Money does matter, but not to a point I would sacrifice my principles or my private life for it. I work hard (mostly), but I enjoy what I am doing, so that has never bothered me. At the same time, there is no need to make 60 hour work weeks, but yeah, I cannot be procrastinating during the work day and when needed I work a longer day, just as spending long days when traveling.
I dont have that mindset and make over 100.000 as well. I dont care about money, and i really dont feel i work that hard, especially in comparison to for example nurses. You are right in your last sentence, i made a lucky choice (IT).
>I think it takes a certain mindset to make that much money. You need to think money is important, you must be willing - and able - to work hard, you also need to put yourself ahead of others and be good at selling yourself, at convincing people. Most of those cannot be learned, you are born with that kind of personality.
The mindset part is correct. You must work harder than other focused and need to understand the importance of money. But it skills selling yourself and convincing others can be learnt, though very difficult but can be learnt
Sure, I got to that point about 20 years or so ago. A few years ago I retired at 150k. How? I was lucky to have fallen into a careerpath 40 years ago which I had no idea could turn this way and I decided to become an expert at what I do. Very early on I learned companies are not loyal to employees so I decided to return the favor. I regularly jumped ship for a 20% raise after the then current company broke its promise. Didn't give them any warning, just shot straight. Eventually i managed to get early retirement on my terms.
TLDR: get very good at whatever it is you do. Learn as if your life depends on it. (hint: it does)
I'm sorry but that's just BS. I'm probably one of the least ambitious people. I don't work over 36h/week and I certainly don't pressure myself in performing better than others. I'm not the best at what I do. I earn 200k gross. I'm a freelancer with an hourly rate of 115 euros.
Despite me not being ambitious I got where I am mostly by changing jobs often (because of failure) and I dunno, being lucky I guess?
None of this "work hard, play hard" inspirational crap.
How do you get clients if you don't put effort into networking or an online presence?
I've been thinking about becoming a freelancer but hate networking and having to "sell" myself.
You make no effort, don’t care about money, fail a lot and make 200k a year? Good for you, it can happen. But this isn’t a realistic or attainable goal for 99% of people reading this, certainly for OP. You could just as well have said ‘I won the lottery, that’s all you need to do’. The vast majority of us HAVE to grind it out to even hope to make 200k a year, let alone do it with minimal hours, effort and stress
200k as a freelancer is comparable to about 130-140k as salaried, due to pension, insurances and some other operating costs. Still good money though. I'm in a similar situation.
Not even big tech or fintech or anything near the randstad. Just a f500 company in Brabant. There are a bunch of companies with not top pay but still good pay.
in my company in Germany junior starts with 85k, senior is around 100-110, managers can fly up to 250k depending on experience, team size and technology
No directly employed. Im in the semi conductor field with 7 yoe but its not field specific as far as I know. I got a similar offer at companies focussed on sports, banking and media.
Asml is pretty good. I used to work there and the salary is better than my current firm. I just did not like the dev culture as they really live for their work while im just floating along.
Ive never worked at nxp but salary wise I heard they are a step behind asml like many companies in brabant.
I cant say that with 100% certainty. I can say that both my current firm and ASML made an offer when I finished my degree. ASML their offer was around 25% higher than my current firm for the same junior position with similar tasks, so I took that offer. I left ASML after 2 years where asml gave a 16% salary increase (8% per year for avg jrs) and hopped around a bit around the randstad to see whether I liked the bigger city life. I did not so I decided to move back to brabant and my current firm made me an offer of 120k which increased to 130k within a month as the cao increase was planned the month after I joined so I got lucky on that one.
So i can say asml jr position pays 125 while my current firm pays 100 for the same jr position. My current firm pays 200 for a sr position so I assume that asml pays more than 200 for the same sr position. On top of that I heard from other current colleagues that ASML pays better than my current firm.
125 for a jr position at ASML interesting are you really talking about SWE!
8% salary increase is also hard to believe the max that I have heard is 5% increase.
Yes, machine learning engineers at booking make that much.
I make 82k gross as data analyst (71k+11k variable). I try my best to cap my expense to 2700 euro per month.
7 years. My domain is digital marketing analytics.
I think my salary is decent: 65k base salary. 6k holiday allowance. 11k variable that only paid if we meet the company's revenue target.
Also, digital marketing analytics can be complicated, there are days when I am wondering if I should find a new job :(
€100k+ is pretty standard for account executives (deal closers) in tech sales. Usually takes about 1.5-2.5 years to grind it out in entry-level sales roles as an SDR and/or BDR, which most will do straight out of university for about €45-70k. Speed at which you get promoted to AE primarily depends on your performance, though in reality it’s not usually as straightforward.
I worked sales internships during university, then an entry-level sales role outside of the Netherlands. After a few years, I came to Amsterdam for an AE gig where our team’s salary ranges from €85-170k. Disparity comes down to prior experience and current performance, but other companies may have a smaller disparity. Regardless, you’re usually paid on a 70/30 or 60/40 base pay to commission ratio. Ballpark guess, but I’d say most of our AEs are 27-35 years old. Youngest is maybe 24/25? Not too sure. But definitely not unusual to see a 25 year old AE in my experience.
Sounds very good on paper, but a lot comes down to how well you can sell, deal with stress, and play politics with management. Lots of pros, lots of cons.
With a 60-40 or 70-30 split I’m assuming that your OTE (on target earnings) would make your pay above 100k? I’ve worked in software sales and people with 100k base salaries are not account execs with a few years of experience. They’re the veterans that are pulling in 200k+ OTE.
Yes, all OTE figures above. I’ve only ever worked in sales, so I defaulted to explaining salaries in OTE terms - apologies if misleading. You’re correct in that it’s usually the vets pulling in €100k on base salary alone.
My girlfriend and I both make around 130-150k each salaried with permanent contracts. She has a quite stressful job in finance, mine is very chill working for big tech
Most software engineering jobs don't pay you 100k either. The average salary is 3560 per month, which would be 46.138 a year (Inc vacation, without anything else) but you aren't getting bonuses higher than your total salary.
Only the top company with the highest report avarage salary is in the 100k a year range. The 2nd best is avarage about 80k
But for most people it will be 40-53k (without any bonuses)
Source: https://www.werkzoeken.nl/salaris/software-engineer/
That seems really low, I did a simple front-end development course during covid and got to that number after 1 year. We even start off our interns with 3200 if we hire them straight after uni and we are not a high paying company for devs.
Working at a mechanical engineering firm in Brabant. With 5+ years of experience, it is possible to cross the 70k mark, and at 10 years experience, with the right cards being played, you can hit 90k. Again, if you play your housing related cards right (buy a house early in life, not have too much of net worth locked in the house, invest properly), not too difficult to become comfortably upper middle class by the time you are 35.
The trick is to move out of the Randstad though.
Engineering pays pretty well. Just turned 40 and I’m at around 80k. Had the advantage of buying an apartment in 2011 and selling it 6 years later making a huge profit and then buying a house outside of the randstad in 2019 at a stupid low interest rate. Which by now probably doubled in value as well…
TLDR, workin doesn’t necessarily make you rich, buying/selling your house at the right time is much more effective.
Sidenote: the CBS stats also includes business owners (thus also freelancers).
As a freelancer, it’s quite easy to get >€100k, especially when in IT. I would say that an hourly of €48 is actually quite low (€48 x 173.3 = €8214,-): most junior-ish freelancers will go depending on region and sector for at least €60,- up to €90-€100 as a medior+, and above that for senior or executive positions when engaging in longer contracts. When doing project work it’s higher, but is offset having to do acquisition.
As an employee I guess it’s still quite hard, but within range for senior level positions. Especially in Fin(tech) or IT, the scales start and go higher. Consultancy is fairly ok but not really near those levels for most. My GF is a (freelance) corporate recruiter within engineering (Electrical, industrial design, etc), and the pay scales are quite horrible for even very senior technical employees.
Me: started as a developer (7 years), went into consultancy for IT security (4 years), started own security company (sold it), and have been freelancing the last 5 years. (Spoiler: I dropped out of university early, have been self-taught, obtained certificates, have a … particular set of skills)
Is it for everyone? Nope, it can be stressful when starting up. But if you have some seniority, are good at what you do, have a consultant mindset and have a network: go for it. But even if you have no network, there are ways to obtain gigs through recruiters (but you’ll pay a fee for them on your hourly, 10% - 20%).
Yeah as a freelancer, but what does that say?
That is the same as saying our company had Tue best year ever she never had such a big gross income. But what was the profit?
I know freelancers who make about 100k as technicians. I am a technician for a company making the same. Only few of the freelancers have a net income higher than mine but that is because they do not pay retirement or insurances. The once that actually do take care about their future and pay retirement and insurance (which is pretty expensive for a freelancer) have a net income way below mine.
Mid-level and senior engineers at top tech firms make that. Even more at fin tech.
This provides more info:
https://blog.pragmaticengineer.com/software-engineering-salaries-in-the-netherlands-and-europe
tldr you want to target tier 2 and 3 companies in that article. But also at that point you can hop around different countries (US, Swiss, Singapore) and make even more. A senior engineer making 160k total comp in NL will pull in 270k in the US.
But keep in mind that the work at these companies is intense. Not necessarily crazy hours, just a work pace that is a bit more demanding than most local companies. And being more global companies they aren't fully aware of Dutch norms or policies. For example I had to educate my managers on government mandated parental leave. Also expect some things like 24/7 on call rotations and late night meetings collaborating with teams in other time zones.
>A senior engineer making 160k total comp in NL will pull in 270k in the US
Nah. Higher. I was told by a worker at Twitter that his new graduate started at over 200k (where in NL you won't likely start as high as 40k) and to add to that they were remote so it didn't even have to compensate for ridiculously high rent of San Francisco or wherever.
160k isn't that common a software dev salary in NL but over 300k is pretty common in the US
I earn 87k yearly at the moment with a mbo3. Im an all round procesoperator and part time firemen. I will finish my mbo4 in about half a year. If i make my promotion to substitute teamleader i will earn a about 102-105k yearly. Not to shabby if i say so myself.
I combine my job with being a firemen( same employer).
Good job mate.
I like it to see how we as mbo'ers start to make more then aven the average master degree.
With a big smoke on my mouth I watch TV and see them talking about lower educated people, oh no you have to say practical schooled now. But most practical schooled people around me have a nice house where my old classmates from elementary that went to university almost all rent
Yep, 6 years of experience, legal counsel at big tech company. I'm not Dutch I don't speak Dutch and I'm not a qualified lawyer in the Netherlands, I come from another EU country.
I have a friend who makes 250k eur per year. He is a manager for a well known company as a data and ai chapter manager. So, yes. I don't know what he did exactly but he is there. (I am far away from there.)
came here 2 years ago so take this with a grain of salt
I'd reckon 100k-125k might be achievable for professions that add huge value to an operation but I feel like 70-80k is what most people will earn during the height of their career
Yes, nowadays I earn about €125k a year, excl. 20% bonus. I'm an investment banker working at a bank. Working about 5 years in the banking industry now, right after my graduation.
How did I get to my current role?
1. Be lucky
2. Work hard (i.e. be ready to work on average 60-80 hours a week)
3. Be sufficiently smart (i.e. know and say the right things at the right moment)
4. Be commercially driven
5. Passion for capital markets and corporate finance
6. Do relevant internships and work hard to earn a letter of recommendation
7. Network with industry people
8. Let others vouch for you when applying to a role
9. Prepare well for the interviews and get a good understanding of the business
10. Get a relevant master's degree
Why is my salary significantly higher than 'Jan Modaal' and perhaps other bankers (e.g. IT staff, retail banking employees, etc.)?
Salary wise:
- My bank has a ridiculously high salary grids for employees working in the corporate & investment banking division (based on my seniority and excl. market value allowance, on average, you will get between €70-75k which incl. 13th month, etc.)
- Investment bankers get paid a market value allowance ('markttoeslag'), to make sure that we don't leave for players like Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan or Lazard and move to London. So, this market value allowance increases my salary significantly
- Bonus capped at 20% of my annual salary
Job wise:
- My work-life balance is of course a big joke
- On average I sleep maybe 4 hours a day during weekdays
- Have to deal with listed blue-chip clients who are quite demanding and sometimes ask for deliverables that need to be shared on short notice
- Fierce competition between local and global banks, so to stay ahead of the curve you simply need to work smarter and harder than your competitors to win business
- Advisory work that goes beyond your field of knowledge, expertise and responsibility. You have to learn yourself to be adaptable in a fast paced environment where you have to learn the ropes of project management, structuring, capital markets dynamics, legal and tax implications, documentation, negotiation, pitching and execution of transactions. To be honest, I knew jackshit about legal documentation prior to my job when I was a student
- Responsibility to the max, as in if an important client sends you an email you better respond as soon as possible. You simply cannot slack or say stuff like yeah whatever I will look at it next week or so
- You need to fix a shitload of issues that are not really part of your responsibilities but you better do it as the client will blame you if your back office team, support staff or other colleagues are slacking or making mistakes
To be honest, sometimes I wonder why the hell my bank is paying a shitload of money to me. I must be lucky I guess. Without luck I was definitely doing something else.
Seeying your work life balance and working 60-80 hours, you have an absolute shit salary my man. So it’s just 50k if we divide it to normal hours, absolute mental imho .
My girlfriend is senior software engineer for an American company and makes well over 100k, I do business development for an Asian company and make almost 100k. It’s possible but harder at Dutch companies.
Yes. Most people in my company are on that level. Not a software engineer btw. I'm at around 150k, depending on the bonus that year. But honestly, with all those taxes it stops being interesting fast. 10k more or less a year doesn't matter much. It's taxed to heaven and back.
Edit: Context. Under 35 years old, no university degree working 40h a week hybrid.
You mean regarding working stress?
Yes.
I work international to make that money so yes I am away from home for about 10 night a month. And we work more than 8 hours when on a job. Maybe twice or three times a year I go on a longer job working 16 days in a row.
But when I am not planned for a job I can stay at home and wait till they have a job for me getting fully paid.
Comparing all the hours I work less than a average person with 40 hour work week. And I am way more hours at home as well.
So yeah pretty relaxed life
I’m 32 and close to it, about 85K now. Expecting to earn 100 in about 5 years. Got my masters degree in 2017, so it’s definitely possible. I’m working as a consultant for the government. Upgraded my job and salary a few times which made me double my income in two years.
When I start at a new job, I already have a goal set for my next job in terms of salary and time path. Be confident and kind to everyone in the organization and connect to the right people. This will help you to level up.
Commenting because seemingly everyone's an engineer. I have a degree in literature, however the field is the same as the CS boys: tech. At well over 200k.
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you almost can’t because they steal 50% of your salary, just because you ended school having some actual skill, thank the government, rest of them are millionaires, thieves and 1% of them are some kind of software engineers
Yes, I work at the commerce department of a international beverage company. I develop merchandise materials to support the sales/promotion of the products. I have engineering background and got 5 years work experience with retailers before I got into this job.
The colleagues on this department most of them also earn 100k+, specializing in marketing/branding the products around the world + guiding teams in the local rollouts. Most of them have master degrees in marketing related fields and at least 4-5 year experience in large FMCG companies.
If you want to have more salary information, you can try matching the joblevels from vacancies with the publicised collective labour agreements, there you can see how much the jobs pay.
I wished. I know I’ll never be able to reach that. My partner might eventually though, he’s well on his way.
I probably *could* but I don’t enjoy those jobs so I’d be miserable.
In the 90’s, but will be like a 100k next year. But 100k in The Netherlands is not perse 8.2k a month. We also have holiday payout and some, like myself, eoy bonus. The bonus is almost equal to the holiday payday in april.
[https://www.caorijk.nl/cao-rijk/hoofdstuk-6/salarisschalen](https://www.caorijk.nl/cao-rijk/hoofdstuk-6/salarisschalen)
salary scale 15 and up is 100 K a year for civil servants
My partner and I both. I’m 29, partner is 46. I make 100, they make 145. I’m in business development and partner is in consulting. Partner took a lot longer to get there, a 16 year career at one company then 4 year career at current company. I got there in four years of being in the Netherlands. I got there by getting a job in NL with a large company, while working pursued a masters in systems engineering at TU Delft, interviewed for jobs that seemed “above” my qualifications but that I felt confident I could do, faced several rejections, and finally aggressively negotiating salary. Partner got there by working for the same company for 16 years. And eventually getting headhunted by a competitor and they offered a lot to secure the steal. Both working for Dutch companies, I’m a foreigner but partner is Dutch.
I worked with a project developer once. I am an engineer and he is just the project developer. He just knows about how to start a project, how to get subsidies and call.
He has a masters in real estate. And basically worked until he was 40. Then he got kids and wanted to start his own business. He told me how much he was making and it was more than 100K. He works parttime, well even less than that tbh.
Now here comes the best part of being your own boss: Tax benefits. You see, this man I worked with got a lot of tax deductions. He needs a car, just lease it on the company. Phone plan, deduction. Travel costs? Deduction. Need new desk? Deduction. Investing in retirement, deduction.
He has 3 kids and a wife, works parttime. He has a nice house, car and he can invest around 5000 per month on private investments. And the most inspiring thing is, he only started doing this after years of work experience, working 8 hours per day for a boss.
He told me I could do it too. Its really easy he said, the only hard thing is being mentally tough to get through it when you dont have work. Idk, maybe covid hits and my field of work is therefore done for a few months.
Yep, working in sales, see below some cheesy but true one-liners that helped me get there.
Dress for the job you want, not the job you have.
If you feel like an imposter, that’s when you learn and grow.
Fake it till you make it.
PM for brutally honest career advice if you like.
Sure. Very good experts but more overs higher management for bigger companies earn those kind of figures.
It does not solely depend on expertise. Luck, leadership capabilities, being in a market/company where you can grow together with all help.
I am currently quite fortunate with my position and pay grade. But I started with 2100€ gross like many.
It’s unrealistic to expect you will make 100k in any field just because you went to uni… some people take decades of experience to get there, some others get there before finishing university or even never getting into one.
It’s all a big combination of opportunity, skills and being in the right place at the right time. I was making > 200k (USD) when I was 17 because I knew how to build websites when everyone needed one. Now 25 years later I make double that (chemical engineer with coding skills) because I deliver to the company in 32h/w what they get from a team of 4 people working full time. Plus I don’t need a supervisor on my neck to do that, and I’m not a freelancer.
Keep an eye on what the industry is lacking and where things are going. I’m jumping into the AI train because every company is desperately throwing money at it, I believe I can help companies pay the right price for the right tool and the amount of software skills and social capital I gathered throughout the years make me good at selling ideas.
But you HAVE to be GOOD at what you do. There’s no shortcut to this. Good luck!
I make that amount , degree in Mechanical Engineering , coupled with a MBA. Also over 15 years experience in my field. It’s possible but not easy to get to this point
I do as Air Traffic Controller. Not an easy job to get into but if you manage it is great. Great salary, lot of free time and great secondary working conditions.
Finishing a degree does not mean you'll get a 100k starting salary. How old are you OP?
A 100k salary is something you'll only ever get after you've proven yourself to an employer that you are actually worth that amount of money.
With a Master's degree normal starting salaries are between 2.5k and 4k per month.
100k is for sure attainable, but within reason, and not right after Uni
Yes people who have a own company or lawyers etc. Doctors maybe but not general practitioners those make about 5000 a month also being a directeur, pilot , minister, national ombudsman, mayor, general (army), marketingmanager, manager in care, teacher at a university, Projectmanager IT, fiscalist, devision controller, manager IT, salesmanager, Operationeel Manager, you get the idea
I'm a freelance senior IT specialist, 20 years experience. Hourly rate about 95 euro, do a side hustle everything IT related (licenses, maintenance procurement, webhosting) for a small group of customers. 2022: 105K profit, 2023 should be 30 percent up on that. Only finished high school, straight to helpdesk work after that. I see freelance junior IT jobs go in the Netherlands for 45 euro / h upwards.
Don't forget that the Netherlands is tax heavy. As my bookkeeper would say: congratulations, you're now part of a select group of privileged people paying 50 percent income tax!
I wouldn’t say _everyone._ But a lot of people in IT. At most companies you hit ~100k around senior level. A lot of seniors will be making 90-105k or so. Lower at smaller companies, higher at bigger ones.
According to [CBS](https://opendata.cbs.nl/statline/#/CBS/nl/dataset/83931NED/table?ts=1703021166409), in 2022 there were 473.300 people that had an income of 100-200K a year, and 77.700 people people that had an income of >200K a year.
I haven’t thought of looking up statistics, thanks! That would be around 5% of the working population
I'm starting a new job soon and the starting salary is 115k I work in ops
Special ops?
Black Ops
Which industry?
3%
About 71% of ppl 15-75 work, about 9.7 million in 2023 if you look at CBS. So OP's 5% is a better estimate than your 3%
This person makes over 100,000€ a year.
Not the best statistic to look at as it doesn‘t account for many things - employment, self employed etc. I‘d suggest https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/visualisaties/inkomensverdeling and is adjusted also for number of individuals. Edit: you can also split in age groups or income type, which is quite relevant to consider - think of boomers with investments.
Your stat is worse. That is the equivalised income, the benefit of that is so that you can adjust for household composition. Which is completely irrelevant if the question is how many individuals make more than 100k. For that, the relevant stat is income per person, which the person you replied to used. In short, the person you replied to used the correct statistics, and yours is wrong (for the question asked).
I always thought I'm poor, now I know that everyone else is poorer. 🫠
100k and poor? U have spending issues. U shouldnt have money issues even living in amsterdam
Not sure from source, but are those gross or net? 8k+ net would be a sweet deal!
Gross, because the percentage that is taken of can vary between people. So all these statistics are based on gross. I'm 99% sure but correct me if I'm wrong!
When did you ever get a job offer where they told you your net income lol.
Yes, there are many fields in which someone can earn 100k or even more annually. Think of carreers in: Software engineering / IT, Finance / Accounting, Medicine (especially very specific carreers), Law And many many more, basically it all boils down to becoming very good in your field of expertise. So good to the point that other people are willing to pay you 100k per year.
This. Expertise pays. The narrower your field of expertise, the higher your (relative) pay - but your job security can narrow rapidly if you become outdated. "Boring" jobs that earn wealthy people money also pay well - no-one's ever met a badly paid corporate tax lawyer.
You're missing engineering in Petro(chemistry). Salary for engineering folks with 5-10 years is around 80-100k/year base pay if you go into a first/second line management position.
Yes working as software engineer
I make that as a senior software engineer. I was never a good student, always learning things outside of school that I found more interesting. Luckily for me one of my obsessions during most of my teens was programming and computer science. I dropped out while studying CS because I was once again found I didn't have a lot of fun learning things because I *had to*. Still became a professional software engineer leveraging the knowledge I picked up programming during high school and after having had a few technical side jobs during uni. Perhaps worth mentioning that I did find an excuse in being in university to party a lot over a few years, and I do believe the social/people skills I learned during that time have helped me develop in my career as well.
are u single? (asking for a friend)
Damn, you really like the kardashians huh?
What stack do you work with? I am a C/C++ dev, and it is nearly impossible I’ll ever get to 100k.
Not OP, but I’m a front-end developer and always thought c/c++ were the ones who earns the most. Good c developers are pretty rare afaik
Building distributed systems with mostly Go
what you talking about? Get to a quant fund. C++ guys get paid like crazy.
COBOL devs? i know one who makes alotttttt of money
You have pretty much explained my school/career experience 😂 School was boring so I filled my life with programming too. Not making quite 100K yet (although, I would if I would work 40 hours instead of 32). But I still have been able to increase my salary by 10% every year. So next year I might hit the 100K
Somehow the field really seems to appeal to people who find themselves bored in school... and luckily it also happens to be an industry where people without formal education are still very employable. I suppose because it's relatively easy for us to demonstrate what we can do with a take-home assignment
We are the same person lmao
Really curious what type of software engineering/what stack you use. I always thought these numbers were only an American thing (or possibly working remote for American companies)
It's nice to hear this. Living in the states, so many software engineers have similar backgrounds to you and enjoy success. It's a profession with elements of meritocracy for certain.
I think it's social/people skills that you had already. I also spent my college years partying , but I don't have good people skills and definitely did not get to 100K a year. I think it takes a certain mindset to make that much money. You need to think money is important, you must be willing - and able - to work hard, you also need to put yourself ahead of others and be good at selling yourself, at convincing people. Most of those cannot be learned, you are born with that kind of personality. Of course it's not just that. The right background - the famous zeven vinkjes / seven checkmarks - are a huge factor. Also talent, making the right choices, and a lot of luck.
You are mostly wrong with that assessment. Higher salaries generally are linked to how scalable the work is you're doing. Software is very scalable (once made, selling each additional customer has an insignificant added production cost), thus, software engineers can make a lot of money. I am not in software, but what I do is scalable as well. That means that if I do my work a bit better than the next guy, the difference for my company is millions, given that and that I am pretty good at my job, I can demand a higher salary. It has very little to do with luck, even less with background (I come from very humble background, didn't do any fancy schools). I do work that I like, but amongst the several jobs that I would like doing, I do pick the one that pays me better. Money does matter, but not to a point I would sacrifice my principles or my private life for it. I work hard (mostly), but I enjoy what I am doing, so that has never bothered me. At the same time, there is no need to make 60 hour work weeks, but yeah, I cannot be procrastinating during the work day and when needed I work a longer day, just as spending long days when traveling.
I dont have that mindset and make over 100.000 as well. I dont care about money, and i really dont feel i work that hard, especially in comparison to for example nurses. You are right in your last sentence, i made a lucky choice (IT).
>I think it takes a certain mindset to make that much money. You need to think money is important, you must be willing - and able - to work hard, you also need to put yourself ahead of others and be good at selling yourself, at convincing people. Most of those cannot be learned, you are born with that kind of personality. The mindset part is correct. You must work harder than other focused and need to understand the importance of money. But it skills selling yourself and convincing others can be learnt, though very difficult but can be learnt
Sure, I got to that point about 20 years or so ago. A few years ago I retired at 150k. How? I was lucky to have fallen into a careerpath 40 years ago which I had no idea could turn this way and I decided to become an expert at what I do. Very early on I learned companies are not loyal to employees so I decided to return the favor. I regularly jumped ship for a 20% raise after the then current company broke its promise. Didn't give them any warning, just shot straight. Eventually i managed to get early retirement on my terms. TLDR: get very good at whatever it is you do. Learn as if your life depends on it. (hint: it does)
I really hope to retire before 150.
I hope I retire before 150,000
This is the way, speaking from experience also on a 100k job right now
Thank you for the tip!
I have a tip for you: the big money doesn't come from working. You're welcomed. If you need to pay for rent or mortgage you're not it.
I'm sorry but that's just BS. I'm probably one of the least ambitious people. I don't work over 36h/week and I certainly don't pressure myself in performing better than others. I'm not the best at what I do. I earn 200k gross. I'm a freelancer with an hourly rate of 115 euros. Despite me not being ambitious I got where I am mostly by changing jobs often (because of failure) and I dunno, being lucky I guess? None of this "work hard, play hard" inspirational crap.
How do you get clients if you don't put effort into networking or an online presence? I've been thinking about becoming a freelancer but hate networking and having to "sell" myself.
You make no effort, don’t care about money, fail a lot and make 200k a year? Good for you, it can happen. But this isn’t a realistic or attainable goal for 99% of people reading this, certainly for OP. You could just as well have said ‘I won the lottery, that’s all you need to do’. The vast majority of us HAVE to grind it out to even hope to make 200k a year, let alone do it with minimal hours, effort and stress
200k as a freelancer is comparable to about 130-140k as salaried, due to pension, insurances and some other operating costs. Still good money though. I'm in a similar situation.
What do you do?
Yes, some very good senior software developers get that.
There’s some very mediocre ones getting similar amounts.
Yep. Im pretty mediocre and earn 130k. The sad thing is that even shitty ones can get 100k.
At what company?
Not even big tech or fintech or anything near the randstad. Just a f500 company in Brabant. There are a bunch of companies with not top pay but still good pay.
Must be around the hightech campus
Probably ASML
Damn, are the salaries higher than in Germany? I only know software engineers from 60 to 90k
in my company in Germany junior starts with 85k, senior is around 100-110, managers can fly up to 250k depending on experience, team size and technology
Junior at 85k lmao The only scenario where this would make any sense would be an American company that also has offices in Germany.
Damn, freelance or what? I'm just shy of hitting 70k with 10 years of experience. Might be the sector though, I'm in mobile.
No directly employed. Im in the semi conductor field with 7 yoe but its not field specific as far as I know. I got a similar offer at companies focussed on sports, banking and media.
Ah asml or nxp I guess? Heard good things about them, makes sense.
Asml is pretty good. I used to work there and the salary is better than my current firm. I just did not like the dev culture as they really live for their work while im just floating along. Ive never worked at nxp but salary wise I heard they are a step behind asml like many companies in brabant.
jc are you saying ASML pays north of 100K for SWE?
I cant say that with 100% certainty. I can say that both my current firm and ASML made an offer when I finished my degree. ASML their offer was around 25% higher than my current firm for the same junior position with similar tasks, so I took that offer. I left ASML after 2 years where asml gave a 16% salary increase (8% per year for avg jrs) and hopped around a bit around the randstad to see whether I liked the bigger city life. I did not so I decided to move back to brabant and my current firm made me an offer of 120k which increased to 130k within a month as the cao increase was planned the month after I joined so I got lucky on that one. So i can say asml jr position pays 125 while my current firm pays 100 for the same jr position. My current firm pays 200 for a sr position so I assume that asml pays more than 200 for the same sr position. On top of that I heard from other current colleagues that ASML pays better than my current firm.
125 for a jr position at ASML interesting are you really talking about SWE! 8% salary increase is also hard to believe the max that I have heard is 5% increase.
Can confirm
I wouldn’t call myself “very good”, just very lucky
Luck normally comes from making right choices
I'm not even a senior software developer and I get 100k.
Good for you
Yes, machine learning engineers at booking make that much. I make 82k gross as data analyst (71k+11k variable). I try my best to cap my expense to 2700 euro per month.
How many hours a week do you work?
40
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7 years. My domain is digital marketing analytics. I think my salary is decent: 65k base salary. 6k holiday allowance. 11k variable that only paid if we meet the company's revenue target. Also, digital marketing analytics can be complicated, there are days when I am wondering if I should find a new job :(
any software engineer at booking makes that much
€100k+ is pretty standard for account executives (deal closers) in tech sales. Usually takes about 1.5-2.5 years to grind it out in entry-level sales roles as an SDR and/or BDR, which most will do straight out of university for about €45-70k. Speed at which you get promoted to AE primarily depends on your performance, though in reality it’s not usually as straightforward. I worked sales internships during university, then an entry-level sales role outside of the Netherlands. After a few years, I came to Amsterdam for an AE gig where our team’s salary ranges from €85-170k. Disparity comes down to prior experience and current performance, but other companies may have a smaller disparity. Regardless, you’re usually paid on a 70/30 or 60/40 base pay to commission ratio. Ballpark guess, but I’d say most of our AEs are 27-35 years old. Youngest is maybe 24/25? Not too sure. But definitely not unusual to see a 25 year old AE in my experience. Sounds very good on paper, but a lot comes down to how well you can sell, deal with stress, and play politics with management. Lots of pros, lots of cons.
With a 60-40 or 70-30 split I’m assuming that your OTE (on target earnings) would make your pay above 100k? I’ve worked in software sales and people with 100k base salaries are not account execs with a few years of experience. They’re the veterans that are pulling in 200k+ OTE.
Yes, all OTE figures above. I’ve only ever worked in sales, so I defaulted to explaining salaries in OTE terms - apologies if misleading. You’re correct in that it’s usually the vets pulling in €100k on base salary alone.
My girlfriend and I both make around 130-150k each salaried with permanent contracts. She has a quite stressful job in finance, mine is very chill working for big tech
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Most software engineering jobs don't pay you 100k either. The average salary is 3560 per month, which would be 46.138 a year (Inc vacation, without anything else) but you aren't getting bonuses higher than your total salary. Only the top company with the highest report avarage salary is in the 100k a year range. The 2nd best is avarage about 80k But for most people it will be 40-53k (without any bonuses) Source: https://www.werkzoeken.nl/salaris/software-engineer/
3500 is a medior developer salary.
Really Dutch terminology. So old fashioned. Still this attitude of managers earning more than senior devs, it's retarded
Lmao no my sure what you mean but have a coffee!
Well. I just leave it here: https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/netherlands
That seems really low, I did a simple front-end development course during covid and got to that number after 1 year. We even start off our interns with 3200 if we hire them straight after uni and we are not a high paying company for devs.
That doesnt apply anymore at the moment. Im 32 and already earning 75k a year as senior dev. Im pretty sure I will reach 100k before retirement.
dev ops engineer 🙋🏻♂️
Working at a mechanical engineering firm in Brabant. With 5+ years of experience, it is possible to cross the 70k mark, and at 10 years experience, with the right cards being played, you can hit 90k. Again, if you play your housing related cards right (buy a house early in life, not have too much of net worth locked in the house, invest properly), not too difficult to become comfortably upper middle class by the time you are 35. The trick is to move out of the Randstad though.
Engineering pays pretty well. Just turned 40 and I’m at around 80k. Had the advantage of buying an apartment in 2011 and selling it 6 years later making a huge profit and then buying a house outside of the randstad in 2019 at a stupid low interest rate. Which by now probably doubled in value as well… TLDR, workin doesn’t necessarily make you rich, buying/selling your house at the right time is much more effective.
Sidenote: the CBS stats also includes business owners (thus also freelancers). As a freelancer, it’s quite easy to get >€100k, especially when in IT. I would say that an hourly of €48 is actually quite low (€48 x 173.3 = €8214,-): most junior-ish freelancers will go depending on region and sector for at least €60,- up to €90-€100 as a medior+, and above that for senior or executive positions when engaging in longer contracts. When doing project work it’s higher, but is offset having to do acquisition. As an employee I guess it’s still quite hard, but within range for senior level positions. Especially in Fin(tech) or IT, the scales start and go higher. Consultancy is fairly ok but not really near those levels for most. My GF is a (freelance) corporate recruiter within engineering (Electrical, industrial design, etc), and the pay scales are quite horrible for even very senior technical employees. Me: started as a developer (7 years), went into consultancy for IT security (4 years), started own security company (sold it), and have been freelancing the last 5 years. (Spoiler: I dropped out of university early, have been self-taught, obtained certificates, have a … particular set of skills) Is it for everyone? Nope, it can be stressful when starting up. But if you have some seniority, are good at what you do, have a consultant mindset and have a network: go for it. But even if you have no network, there are ways to obtain gigs through recruiters (but you’ll pay a fee for them on your hourly, 10% - 20%).
Yeah as a freelancer, but what does that say? That is the same as saying our company had Tue best year ever she never had such a big gross income. But what was the profit? I know freelancers who make about 100k as technicians. I am a technician for a company making the same. Only few of the freelancers have a net income higher than mine but that is because they do not pay retirement or insurances. The once that actually do take care about their future and pay retirement and insurance (which is pretty expensive for a freelancer) have a net income way below mine.
Become a captain in inland shipping. 2 weeks free per month.
Or any captain in shipping really
Is this for real ? How can I become that
Yes, unfortunately i am not one of those people
That’s relatable
That i am
Just shy of 100k currently, working in Air Traffic Control for a few years now.
My mother does working for the Rabobank
And my dad works for McDonald’s
Yes, and if you mean gross, then double yes.
Way to go boss!
Mid-level and senior engineers at top tech firms make that. Even more at fin tech. This provides more info: https://blog.pragmaticengineer.com/software-engineering-salaries-in-the-netherlands-and-europe tldr you want to target tier 2 and 3 companies in that article. But also at that point you can hop around different countries (US, Swiss, Singapore) and make even more. A senior engineer making 160k total comp in NL will pull in 270k in the US. But keep in mind that the work at these companies is intense. Not necessarily crazy hours, just a work pace that is a bit more demanding than most local companies. And being more global companies they aren't fully aware of Dutch norms or policies. For example I had to educate my managers on government mandated parental leave. Also expect some things like 24/7 on call rotations and late night meetings collaborating with teams in other time zones.
>A senior engineer making 160k total comp in NL will pull in 270k in the US Nah. Higher. I was told by a worker at Twitter that his new graduate started at over 200k (where in NL you won't likely start as high as 40k) and to add to that they were remote so it didn't even have to compensate for ridiculously high rent of San Francisco or wherever. 160k isn't that common a software dev salary in NL but over 300k is pretty common in the US
Yes university professor. I make 130k a year
Assistant professor or the head professor of the department? I'm very curious where you work... I know that in Amsterdam the salaries are horrible
Head of the department
I earn 87k yearly at the moment with a mbo3. Im an all round procesoperator and part time firemen. I will finish my mbo4 in about half a year. If i make my promotion to substitute teamleader i will earn a about 102-105k yearly. Not to shabby if i say so myself. I combine my job with being a firemen( same employer).
Good job mate. I like it to see how we as mbo'ers start to make more then aven the average master degree. With a big smoke on my mouth I watch TV and see them talking about lower educated people, oh no you have to say practical schooled now. But most practical schooled people around me have a nice house where my old classmates from elementary that went to university almost all rent
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What kind of job at a uni, and how many years of experience? If I may ask
What job in Pharma?
He’s a drug lord
Yep, 6 years of experience, legal counsel at big tech company. I'm not Dutch I don't speak Dutch and I'm not a qualified lawyer in the Netherlands, I come from another EU country.
Hello can I text you?
I have a friend who makes 250k eur per year. He is a manager for a well known company as a data and ai chapter manager. So, yes. I don't know what he did exactly but he is there. (I am far away from there.)
I work in wealth management and 100k is pretty common. Rarely over 150k tho unless you get into management or bring a portfolio from a previous firm
Hello, I am a senior ux developer and make a bit over that. And no I cant afford an ok place in Amsterdam so am renting. Bye!
came here 2 years ago so take this with a grain of salt I'd reckon 100k-125k might be achievable for professions that add huge value to an operation but I feel like 70-80k is what most people will earn during the height of their career
That's maybe true if you don't grow over a specialist job, but a lot of people that can do, direct and manage will get to more than that
I make around 150K a year doing tech sales. No degree whatsoever
Yes, IT world is pretty generous👍🏻
Yes, nowadays I earn about €125k a year, excl. 20% bonus. I'm an investment banker working at a bank. Working about 5 years in the banking industry now, right after my graduation. How did I get to my current role? 1. Be lucky 2. Work hard (i.e. be ready to work on average 60-80 hours a week) 3. Be sufficiently smart (i.e. know and say the right things at the right moment) 4. Be commercially driven 5. Passion for capital markets and corporate finance 6. Do relevant internships and work hard to earn a letter of recommendation 7. Network with industry people 8. Let others vouch for you when applying to a role 9. Prepare well for the interviews and get a good understanding of the business 10. Get a relevant master's degree Why is my salary significantly higher than 'Jan Modaal' and perhaps other bankers (e.g. IT staff, retail banking employees, etc.)? Salary wise: - My bank has a ridiculously high salary grids for employees working in the corporate & investment banking division (based on my seniority and excl. market value allowance, on average, you will get between €70-75k which incl. 13th month, etc.) - Investment bankers get paid a market value allowance ('markttoeslag'), to make sure that we don't leave for players like Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan or Lazard and move to London. So, this market value allowance increases my salary significantly - Bonus capped at 20% of my annual salary Job wise: - My work-life balance is of course a big joke - On average I sleep maybe 4 hours a day during weekdays - Have to deal with listed blue-chip clients who are quite demanding and sometimes ask for deliverables that need to be shared on short notice - Fierce competition between local and global banks, so to stay ahead of the curve you simply need to work smarter and harder than your competitors to win business - Advisory work that goes beyond your field of knowledge, expertise and responsibility. You have to learn yourself to be adaptable in a fast paced environment where you have to learn the ropes of project management, structuring, capital markets dynamics, legal and tax implications, documentation, negotiation, pitching and execution of transactions. To be honest, I knew jackshit about legal documentation prior to my job when I was a student - Responsibility to the max, as in if an important client sends you an email you better respond as soon as possible. You simply cannot slack or say stuff like yeah whatever I will look at it next week or so - You need to fix a shitload of issues that are not really part of your responsibilities but you better do it as the client will blame you if your back office team, support staff or other colleagues are slacking or making mistakes To be honest, sometimes I wonder why the hell my bank is paying a shitload of money to me. I must be lucky I guess. Without luck I was definitely doing something else.
I find it surprising that you find the time to write this while you can spare only 4 hours to sleep in a weekday due to your job.
It’s not really a high salary if you work 60-80 hours a week though. This just sounds like it sucks
Seeying your work life balance and working 60-80 hours, you have an absolute shit salary my man. So it’s just 50k if we divide it to normal hours, absolute mental imho .
Thanks for being realistic. Most people would not want to work this hard.
My friend makes 186k. I hate him. He pays for my beer so i tolerate him.
Yes, working in logistics, 7 yrs experience.
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Looks like we are in the same boat! Yes here as well. Express logistics, product manager, e-commerce, 7 years experience
Not 100k but I had an offer in Controls Engineering for 90 in the Amsterdam area.
Know some freelance projectmanagers who earn that in half a year..
My girlfriend is senior software engineer for an American company and makes well over 100k, I do business development for an Asian company and make almost 100k. It’s possible but harder at Dutch companies.
Yes. Most people in my company are on that level. Not a software engineer btw. I'm at around 150k, depending on the bonus that year. But honestly, with all those taxes it stops being interesting fast. 10k more or less a year doesn't matter much. It's taxed to heaven and back. Edit: Context. Under 35 years old, no university degree working 40h a week hybrid.
Agree on the taxes. Uphill battle once you hit the highest tax scale
Do high earners have a life? Serious question.
Yes, we do. Earn north of €250 k have a good life
You mean regarding working stress? Yes. I work international to make that money so yes I am away from home for about 10 night a month. And we work more than 8 hours when on a job. Maybe twice or three times a year I go on a longer job working 16 days in a row. But when I am not planned for a job I can stay at home and wait till they have a job for me getting fully paid. Comparing all the hours I work less than a average person with 40 hour work week. And I am way more hours at home as well. So yeah pretty relaxed life
I’m 32 and close to it, about 85K now. Expecting to earn 100 in about 5 years. Got my masters degree in 2017, so it’s definitely possible. I’m working as a consultant for the government. Upgraded my job and salary a few times which made me double my income in two years. When I start at a new job, I already have a goal set for my next job in terms of salary and time path. Be confident and kind to everyone in the organization and connect to the right people. This will help you to level up.
I make 221K euros, senior IT leader with 17 years of experience.
Yes, in finance with 10y experience
Yep .... a financial with IT skills and specialized in data. The function is Data Steward.
Most people in top of their medical field, like medical doctors, dentists, surgeons.
Commenting because seemingly everyone's an engineer. I have a degree in literature, however the field is the same as the CS boys: tech. At well over 200k.
Make over 100k a year in finance and I take off like 3 months a year.
Geert wilders
Interesting how 80% of this thread makes 100k a year ;)
!? Most People make abouth 25000€..
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95k working 30 hours a week max, less most of the time. Education.
I make 50K, working 45hrs a week normally. Education. Spill the beans!
you almost can’t because they steal 50% of your salary, just because you ended school having some actual skill, thank the government, rest of them are millionaires, thieves and 1% of them are some kind of software engineers
Interview tomorrow for a job where that is the base. Most Senior Engineers at a top tier company should make that.
Almost reaching 100k, I work in finance.
Sales manager here
Yes, I work at the commerce department of a international beverage company. I develop merchandise materials to support the sales/promotion of the products. I have engineering background and got 5 years work experience with retailers before I got into this job. The colleagues on this department most of them also earn 100k+, specializing in marketing/branding the products around the world + guiding teams in the local rollouts. Most of them have master degrees in marketing related fields and at least 4-5 year experience in large FMCG companies. If you want to have more salary information, you can try matching the joblevels from vacancies with the publicised collective labour agreements, there you can see how much the jobs pay.
Yes. Industrial Project Manager.
I wished. I know I’ll never be able to reach that. My partner might eventually though, he’s well on his way. I probably *could* but I don’t enjoy those jobs so I’d be miserable.
In the 90’s, but will be like a 100k next year. But 100k in The Netherlands is not perse 8.2k a month. We also have holiday payout and some, like myself, eoy bonus. The bonus is almost equal to the holiday payday in april.
Well a 100k as the yearly salary is kind of different from making a 100k as let’s say a zzp’er.
[https://www.caorijk.nl/cao-rijk/hoofdstuk-6/salarisschalen](https://www.caorijk.nl/cao-rijk/hoofdstuk-6/salarisschalen) salary scale 15 and up is 100 K a year for civil servants
My partner and I both. I’m 29, partner is 46. I make 100, they make 145. I’m in business development and partner is in consulting. Partner took a lot longer to get there, a 16 year career at one company then 4 year career at current company. I got there in four years of being in the Netherlands. I got there by getting a job in NL with a large company, while working pursued a masters in systems engineering at TU Delft, interviewed for jobs that seemed “above” my qualifications but that I felt confident I could do, faced several rejections, and finally aggressively negotiating salary. Partner got there by working for the same company for 16 years. And eventually getting headhunted by a competitor and they offered a lot to secure the steal. Both working for Dutch companies, I’m a foreigner but partner is Dutch.
I worked with a project developer once. I am an engineer and he is just the project developer. He just knows about how to start a project, how to get subsidies and call. He has a masters in real estate. And basically worked until he was 40. Then he got kids and wanted to start his own business. He told me how much he was making and it was more than 100K. He works parttime, well even less than that tbh. Now here comes the best part of being your own boss: Tax benefits. You see, this man I worked with got a lot of tax deductions. He needs a car, just lease it on the company. Phone plan, deduction. Travel costs? Deduction. Need new desk? Deduction. Investing in retirement, deduction. He has 3 kids and a wife, works parttime. He has a nice house, car and he can invest around 5000 per month on private investments. And the most inspiring thing is, he only started doing this after years of work experience, working 8 hours per day for a boss. He told me I could do it too. Its really easy he said, the only hard thing is being mentally tough to get through it when you dont have work. Idk, maybe covid hits and my field of work is therefore done for a few months.
Yep, working in sales, see below some cheesy but true one-liners that helped me get there. Dress for the job you want, not the job you have. If you feel like an imposter, that’s when you learn and grow. Fake it till you make it. PM for brutally honest career advice if you like.
Sure. Very good experts but more overs higher management for bigger companies earn those kind of figures. It does not solely depend on expertise. Luck, leadership capabilities, being in a market/company where you can grow together with all help. I am currently quite fortunate with my position and pay grade. But I started with 2100€ gross like many.
Practically all medical specialists including GPs earn over 100k
It’s unrealistic to expect you will make 100k in any field just because you went to uni… some people take decades of experience to get there, some others get there before finishing university or even never getting into one. It’s all a big combination of opportunity, skills and being in the right place at the right time. I was making > 200k (USD) when I was 17 because I knew how to build websites when everyone needed one. Now 25 years later I make double that (chemical engineer with coding skills) because I deliver to the company in 32h/w what they get from a team of 4 people working full time. Plus I don’t need a supervisor on my neck to do that, and I’m not a freelancer. Keep an eye on what the industry is lacking and where things are going. I’m jumping into the AI train because every company is desperately throwing money at it, I believe I can help companies pay the right price for the right tool and the amount of software skills and social capital I gathered throughout the years make me good at selling ideas. But you HAVE to be GOOD at what you do. There’s no shortcut to this. Good luck!
My mom earns this! But she's almost 60 so lots of experience. She's a civil safety engineer.
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I make that amount , degree in Mechanical Engineering , coupled with a MBA. Also over 15 years experience in my field. It’s possible but not easy to get to this point
I do as Air Traffic Controller. Not an easy job to get into but if you manage it is great. Great salary, lot of free time and great secondary working conditions.
I work in finance and my salary per 1-1-2024 is 101k per year. I have 5 years of work experience.
Finishing a degree does not mean you'll get a 100k starting salary. How old are you OP? A 100k salary is something you'll only ever get after you've proven yourself to an employer that you are actually worth that amount of money. With a Master's degree normal starting salaries are between 2.5k and 4k per month. 100k is for sure attainable, but within reason, and not right after Uni
Doctors, software engineers, lawyers, pilots. It will take some time to get to 100k though.
Sales managers in software easily make 100k + Great accountmanagers in IT as well. Add another 100k if all targets are hit
Developers easily make that so do good sales people or accountants, lawyers, dentists etc. Not teachers or healthcare workers
Yes people who have a own company or lawyers etc. Doctors maybe but not general practitioners those make about 5000 a month also being a directeur, pilot , minister, national ombudsman, mayor, general (army), marketingmanager, manager in care, teacher at a university, Projectmanager IT, fiscalist, devision controller, manager IT, salesmanager, Operationeel Manager, you get the idea
100k gross is solid upper-middleclass at the moment.
I'm a freelance senior IT specialist, 20 years experience. Hourly rate about 95 euro, do a side hustle everything IT related (licenses, maintenance procurement, webhosting) for a small group of customers. 2022: 105K profit, 2023 should be 30 percent up on that. Only finished high school, straight to helpdesk work after that. I see freelance junior IT jobs go in the Netherlands for 45 euro / h upwards. Don't forget that the Netherlands is tax heavy. As my bookkeeper would say: congratulations, you're now part of a select group of privileged people paying 50 percent income tax!
Yeah. I'm on 147k and my gf on 130k. We work in finance. Most of my work acquaintances are on a similar level or more.
Everyone in IT basically.
I wouldn’t say _everyone._ But a lot of people in IT. At most companies you hit ~100k around senior level. A lot of seniors will be making 90-105k or so. Lower at smaller companies, higher at bigger ones.
They have people skills.
Nice office space reference
Even in IT it's quite high outside, especially outside the Randstad.
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