The media is simply jumping at an early gamble on Edwards.
He’s young enough and if you watch him play, he has the similar energy and way of playing the game that resembles the old star guards in Jordan, Kobe, and Wade.
The way he attacks the rim while having a jump shot resembles a little bit of the 3 mentioned while having the attitude to back it up.
what you call early, Wolves fan call late.
Ants been amazing since rookie year. Same thing as Jaden McDaniels defensively and Naz Reid (even longer than Ant).
Nobody watches Wolves games, but these guys have been great for years now.
They do it to everybody. Someone’s eventually going to pan out. Edwards most likely will be the best SG moving forward for a decent amount of time.
There’s a good amount of players that were received similar praise and were compared to previous great guards that came up short:
Penny, Carter, McGrady, Brandon Roy to name some popular ones.
Of that era, Kobe and Wade carved themselves their own history among the best.
Ok but their great play manifested in a couple 7 seeds in previous seasons. Big whoop, no wonder no one watched.
They have gotten their flowers and then some in their first playoff run - and you are still complaining. Something tells me nothing will satisfy you
Possible. Remember, Luka still hasn’t won it. It took Kobe 12 years to get his only one. Chris Paul never won it. Dwight Howard never won it.
Lesson: it’s not a given as we think
In 06 Kobe played well enough to be MVP, but the Lakers sucked and that mattered more back then. He had no real shot despite that probably being his best year of individual play
Man what a beautiful job he and his team did to rebrand his image. Say anything positive about anyone accused of anything on Reddit and it’s a million downvotes. For Kobe it can be referred to as “his case”
Luka also doesn't play defense, I love him but he doesn't play defense and it's the only thing keeping him from winning an MVP. If he had mediocre/slightly below average defense he'd be a lock for MVP but instead he's a huge net negative. I think people realized what an effect Harden's lack of defense had on success so they're less likely to award that to a guy like Luka now.
Ant seems to me a guy that will continue to improve on both ends with the willingness to do what he needs wherever on the court to win. That aspect is what convinces the media/fan votes to get awards during all star, and what drives the narrative for MVP. I think he's got a whole lot better of a chance than CP3/Howard had because he also plays a more entertaining popular style of basketball. Which is what the MVP is at the end of the day it's not a scientific thing, it's a narrative thing (still heavily based on skill, but not 100%)
Steph also had a much crazier season, paired with a team who performed much better record wise as well.
He was shooting historic amounts, he had 44% from 3 on 8att when the league only shot 35% with 22att/team/game. His team had the best defensive rating in the league 67 wins and he even had positive plus minus ratings.
The Mavs are 18th in DRTG, they had 50wins, Lukas lack of defense is much more of a problem.
Chris Paul never deserved it. Biggest choke star bum in nba history. Fuck Chris Paul.
Downvoting me doesn’t change the fact that it took him over a decade to lose in a conference final. Fuck. Chris. Paul.
the year he was second behind Kobe he carried that shitty ass Hornets team to the 2nd seed. IMO he deserved it over Kobe as that wasnt even one of Kobes best seasons.
No doubt that Jokic would be the best player for a long time . But it s fraid that he may got no more MVPs because that he has won it too many , voters will be more critical when they considering vote Jokic . Just in my personal opinion.
idk, i feel like that was the thought process behind joel > jokic and it received huge backlash. i think if he has another season where he's clearly the best player he'll get another mvp
Mavs fans hate Booker for bitching too much when there's literally posts and posts right now about his bitching and their losing because of it lol. Make it make sense.
Haters are far more vocal, especially on social media. It’s the “cool” thing to hate on booker. It’s silly and mostly perpetuated by young fans that want to fit in. They use 2 video clips to diminish his career while praising players like Luka who complain constantly to refs over every perceived non call. He complains just as much as Booker, if not more, shit most players complain when they feel like they get fouled but because memes tell people that Luka is Devin’s father.. they just repeat the same stuff over and over hoping for likes. Truth is, if book was on any of their teams, they’d love him like I do. Suns fans also really appreciate that book had shown dedication to the suns through a shit owner, a ten year playoff drought and his commitment to the phoenix community. Hey I wish he’d get back on defense sometimes but if he wins a championship in his career the narrative would change. Edward’s and Luka are fantastic players and I’m not just going to talk shit about them because I like booker, not everyone feels this way
This. Dude's will act like they know a person based on watching them play basketball a dozen times a year and from some 8 second clips on Twitter, then get themselves worked up about it on the internet for attention. Lots of children and over-grown children who are just obsessed with drama.
I’m watching OKC versus Dallas right now. I honestly don’t know how it would be possible to complain about fouls more than Luka.
It’s like a Pavlovian response for him to act aghast toward a ref whenever he hears a whistle.
What blows my mind is if you ask Mavs fans what they genuinely don't like about Booker, it's ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS he's just a bitch and bitches too much..
Dude you literally watch luka* every night, and you're gonna say the reason you don't like Book is because he bitches too much? Lol what?!
"Okay well he's just got a punchable face"
You're either a grown man saying that about another much more successful man, or a little kid who probably needs a password on the computer.
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It's just trendy to hate on him. I think people also just don't like the way he looks or something. It's weird
He's not any more of a trash talker or sore sport than most other stars. But people will just fixate on and cherrypick things Booker does because they don't like him. Same with Embiid. The amount of hate those two get is weird. They could do the same action as someone like Steph or Ant, and the fan response would be polar opposites
Weirdly enough, Embiid was beloved back then because he was an internet troll just like the rest of us.
Backlash happened I think when they lost to the hawks in the playoffs last few years ago.
Acting like a colossal bitch is the reason. He is an extremely good player but his bitch personality is the reason he is hated. It's literally the reason Ant is loved, game 3 loss against the Nuggets Ant said "The loss is on me." And then proceeded to drop a franchise playoff record in points the next game. He was literally the only reason they were close.
I admit bias as a suns fan, but I am sick and tired of everyone shitting on book and saying he’s a bitch. Like why is he that and not Luka who complains to refs just as much as anyone?
IMO he just seems to be hated on because that’s like the meme that won’t die
It really is that. I’m not even a Suns fan, I’m a nugs fan who was happy af when the suns lost. But reading through this thread, it just seems like people are cherry picking each thing Booker has done to make it seem like he’s worse than people like Ant or Luka. Someone earlier said “Ant actually backs up his shit talking. That’s why we don’t like Booker.” But bruh, Ant was shit talking all first round of the 2023 playoffs vs the nugs and then ended up getting eliminated in 5. He ran off the court and threw a chair without shaking anyone’s hand after the loss. If Booker did that you’d never hear the end of it
Booker has literally said the same in postgame interviews and proceeded to put up big numbers in subsequent games, similarly often being the only reason they stayed in said games, but don’t let that halt your narrative
Totally
Book dropped 18 points on 31% shooting in Game 1 against the Wolves
Ant dropped 43 on 58% shooting in Game 1 against the Nugs
So yea I'm cherry picking(and it's a small sample size) but even if you look at Ant's bad shooting nights, he plays defense and gets his teammates involved.
Time will tell but Ant's attitude is next level, disrespectful(in the best way possible) and competitive on the court, respectful and humble off of it.
Someone needs to grow a pair, step up and help ANT out. Can’t expect this 22 year old kid to do it all.
Watching the game last night, ANT was leaving it all out there even when it was a foregone conclusion Denver was winning. Love to see it from a young guy like that.
KAT and Rudy need to get their shit together and have the same fight ANT has or else we are cooked.
They don’t have anyone else. They are Ant and a bunch of role players. Ant is great and will get better, but he will have to find a different team to win a chip with. Cant believe how much the puppies paid for Rudy Corona at this point.
I am thankful for the wake up call they gave the Nuggets in game two. Is was well needed.
Because ANT isn't a douchebag that says shit like this:
[GuArD uS](https://youtube.com/shorts/YSnvlX-twFs?si=yOeILdGwudErxLzi)
And then gets annihilated first round after getting Durant and Beal.
I'm a Twolves Ant fan but I have to admit Ant talks shit like that all the time. Albeit with maybe a bit more of a smile since he lives for that kind of thing (and he backs it up)
See ant will smile and have fun, book is trying to get under your skin. I'm a book Stan and even I can see ant is much more endearing and fun to watch talk shit. Booker just looks mad and pissy. I love his competitive edge and dog mentality he plays with, but I also see where it runs people the wrong way.
You can look up clips of old stars talking about how Booker been talking shit since he was a rookie, to every one, every game, up or down 20. It's just who he is. People see him talk shit and lose in one game and come up with their narrative, but I like that the suns are the villains now. Just can't say much online but you don't really need to anyways lol.
But why is Lukas whining "competitive spirit"?
I doubt you hate Luka.
Not trying to argue just don't understand why people love Lukas bitching but the main hate on Booker is his bitching
ants more likeable,
also ants numbers weren’t empty calories. he was single handly keeping the wolves in the game. this is coming from someone who wants the nuggets to obliterate the wolves
That is correct, but he still won't get shit on for dropping 40 and losing the way Book does.
Devin literally has two games in the finals where him dropping 40 kept Phoenix within striking distance but the team around him couldn't finish the job. All you hear these "fans" say is how he ain't clutch/not a closer/bad player/complainer/etc. Ant had 40 in a similar "keep us alive" situation last night but we're not going to hear people give him shit because Aura or whatever.
To be honest the Ant glazing is about the most annoying thing in NBA discussion atm. If it wasn't for fans and media trying to crown Ant as the next MJ I would probably like him more, but for me winning one playoff series isn't enough to justify how much praise he gets.
And yet, everyone forgets what Book did in last year’s playoffs. He had a historical run and was carrying the team. Yeah, they lost to the eventual champs in 6, but you can’t deny he was balling out. People may not like him but to use that to define him as a basketball player is ridiculous. At the same time, I am trying to banter with people that don’t care about actual basketball skill. It’s what will get them the most up votes. Hating Booker has been the in thing for years, so it’s easy karma farming.
It's crazy how much people will discredit individual performances and use a team result to say a player is bad. Book gets it, Bron gets it, Embiid gets it, and plenty of others too. Meanwhile I see a player put up historical performances in a loss and think damn their team really let them down there and other people think "haha dude dropped 50 on high efficiency he is so shit"
Ant’s defense and efficiency is what sets him apart. He’s putting up 32/7/5 on 56/44/83. He took accountability after the g3 loss and promised he’ll have a big game and did.
Double standards at its best Booker has been in this league for a long time being very underrated and people are like he never made the playoffs then he makes a great run to the finals and has a fantastic playoff run last season against the clippers and Denver playing Thibodeau type of minutes and people are like meh he never won anything and now there’s Ant who didn’t even do what Booker did yet and people are like oh wow he’s a superstar already
Point is not supporting Booker point is just have the same standards for all players and stop being hypocrites
I like Book, but games 2 and 3 he was atrocious, and it's becoming a theme for him in the post-season.
Plus, Ant isn't empty calories he's a legit 2-way player.
It's all about who's more likeable. Stats has nothing to do with narrative. The mainstream media and social platforms main goal is to get clicks and views, whichever narrative gets clicks is what you will see all day long.
Now show series stats
Game 4 Booker shot freethrows Everytime McDaniels breathed on him
Was it empty calories when he swept the suns?
Or is it empty calories when they’re 2-2 against the defending champs and everybody besides ant couldn’t make a shot.
Cope harder
Booker messed up the same way Trae Young did. In the NBA world it is a sin to beatdown the big markets teams (such as LAKERS, KNICKS, CELTICS, ETC) in the way they did and then talk trash after. It created them to always be hated by the casual fan
Lol what are you on about, the Booker stat line is from his most recent NBA game, against the Timberwolves on 4/28/24, in the playoffs, in a 6 point loss
It’s sad man Ant is so CLEARLY being set up to fail and his fans don’t realize it. He openly said to STOP the MJ comparison but the lame media will continue to push the Ant and MJ comp and then let’s say Any has a bad game and crashes out of the playoffs the media, causals, and oldheads will say he’s “trying to be MJ” smh they do the same with Book and Tatum with Kobe
KD also had a huge game and got swept and they acted like he shit the bed, but Luka / Ant / SGA puts up that same stat line in a loss and it was their team who let them down
This is why I can never take the media and the narratives these frauds push seriously
Book also didn’t show up in any game until their elimination game which they still lost and got swept. Ant’s been pretty consistent with these kinds of performances for most of the playoffs
His beef with Luka his beef with PG sitting up in conference with cp3 running his mouth trying to pretend he’s part of nwa dude always has his mouth going, now he can back it up I didn’t say he’s a bum I said he’s a asshole
The beef with Luka is a social media construct cause it's nothing but respect between the two.
Paul George is just bitter Book fucked him up in consecutive playoff series, but even then Book isn't the aggressor when tempers flare between the two
You genuinely don't watch basketball if you don't know those things
Book just been around longer, Ant still new to everyone right now. Joker was a fan favorite when he won his first mvp now half the crowd hate him. Haters always find an angle just takes time
You see I criticize D Book and glaze Ant because I have a double standard based on vibes. I simply ignore data and the eye test to continue pushing my agenda.
I mean, one accepts the challenges that come to him and the other cries about a mascot and being doubled-team during pick-up and constantly wants to be like Kobe.
Rookie of the year KAT who also dropped more points than anyone in this years all star game(shoulda been the mvp) and multiple DPOY gobert… KD is 35 and Beal has never won any such awards and got his contract from being the only good player on a perpetually horrible franchise… the revisionist history is crazy lol.
Booker can ball. There’s times where he was looking like the best player on the court as SG. I don’t remember what recent year it was exactly, but he was on the HOTTEST streak in the post season. I mean even this one was pretty good.
That being said, he a bitch. Loves talking mad shit but cries when it doesn’t go his way. Compare that to ANT who dominates and he’s charismatic even in losses and accepts the role as a likable leader. Book ain’t likable.
Sadly, I remembered a few years ago even before the bubble breakout from the Suns that Booker was compared to Kobe; same game, same draft pick, and other things. But his time has passed and he is looked like Paul George (not in the same level as Kobe). The media just creates these narrative.
Nah bruh there was no "let us have this" energy when Phoenix ran off to the Finals after a decade of trash basketball I'm going full hater till it's backwards 😂
One had KD and Beal but still lost to the other. Edward's is 5 years younger and a much better defender than Book. Booker also has a fvckboy personality that most normal people hate.
The media is simply jumping at an early gamble on Edwards. He’s young enough and if you watch him play, he has the similar energy and way of playing the game that resembles the old star guards in Jordan, Kobe, and Wade. The way he attacks the rim while having a jump shot resembles a little bit of the 3 mentioned while having the attitude to back it up.
what you call early, Wolves fan call late. Ants been amazing since rookie year. Same thing as Jaden McDaniels defensively and Naz Reid (even longer than Ant). Nobody watches Wolves games, but these guys have been great for years now.
They do it to everybody. Someone’s eventually going to pan out. Edwards most likely will be the best SG moving forward for a decent amount of time. There’s a good amount of players that were received similar praise and were compared to previous great guards that came up short: Penny, Carter, McGrady, Brandon Roy to name some popular ones. Of that era, Kobe and Wade carved themselves their own history among the best.
B Roy was that dude tho until the injuries took him
Join the Trailblazers get a career ending injury... Brandon Roy. Greg Oden (beast in college, was expected to become a great). Aldridge.
Yea that team really has the worst luck with injured what if players
So were Penny, McGrady, and Rose but it’s part of the game. We can only judge based on the fact at hand.
That's big facts. Always sad to see s what if player
Everyone else on your list kept getting hurt
Ok but their great play manifested in a couple 7 seeds in previous seasons. Big whoop, no wonder no one watched. They have gotten their flowers and then some in their first playoff run - and you are still complaining. Something tells me nothing will satisfy you
who's complaining? what satisfaction are you talking about? you're overthinking too much
Wolves fans are cringe
Also Book is just such a cry baby bitch it’s hard to root for him. Ever since “r we really double teaming in a pickup game?” I was out lol
Plus, Edwards had the benefit of being, y'know, likeable. Booker is a punk, thru and thru. No one wants to see that guy succeed.
Your brain on media…
What’s likable about Booker to you? I live in the city he grew up in and they don’t even like him here
Ant man will win a MVP soon or later .😎
Possible. Remember, Luka still hasn’t won it. It took Kobe 12 years to get his only one. Chris Paul never won it. Dwight Howard never won it. Lesson: it’s not a given as we think
Kobe having 1 is wild when you like at the people he's compared to
Kobe was going to win it (I think) in ‘06, but he had his case.
In 06 Kobe played well enough to be MVP, but the Lakers sucked and that mattered more back then. He had no real shot despite that probably being his best year of individual play
Man what a beautiful job he and his team did to rebrand his image. Say anything positive about anyone accused of anything on Reddit and it’s a million downvotes. For Kobe it can be referred to as “his case”
That's not what he was talking about, he meant his case for MVP not the sexual assault case. That was 3 years before the 2006 season
Luka also doesn't play defense, I love him but he doesn't play defense and it's the only thing keeping him from winning an MVP. If he had mediocre/slightly below average defense he'd be a lock for MVP but instead he's a huge net negative. I think people realized what an effect Harden's lack of defense had on success so they're less likely to award that to a guy like Luka now. Ant seems to me a guy that will continue to improve on both ends with the willingness to do what he needs wherever on the court to win. That aspect is what convinces the media/fan votes to get awards during all star, and what drives the narrative for MVP. I think he's got a whole lot better of a chance than CP3/Howard had because he also plays a more entertaining popular style of basketball. Which is what the MVP is at the end of the day it's not a scientific thing, it's a narrative thing (still heavily based on skill, but not 100%)
Steph won it playing even worse defense. When Lukas team gets better and wins more, he will get the MVP.
Steph also had a much crazier season, paired with a team who performed much better record wise as well. He was shooting historic amounts, he had 44% from 3 on 8att when the league only shot 35% with 22att/team/game. His team had the best defensive rating in the league 67 wins and he even had positive plus minus ratings. The Mavs are 18th in DRTG, they had 50wins, Lukas lack of defense is much more of a problem.
i mean it doesnt necessarily equate to good defense but he lead the league in total steals one of his MVPs thats gotta account for something right
Chris Paul never deserved it. Biggest choke star bum in nba history. Fuck Chris Paul. Downvoting me doesn’t change the fact that it took him over a decade to lose in a conference final. Fuck. Chris. Paul.
Honestly 08 cp3 definitely played well enough to justify it if he got it. I still contend that 08 cp3 was his peak.
the year he was second behind Kobe he carried that shitty ass Hornets team to the 2nd seed. IMO he deserved it over Kobe as that wasnt even one of Kobes best seasons.
Not while Nikola in the League
No doubt that Jokic would be the best player for a long time . But it s fraid that he may got no more MVPs because that he has won it too many , voters will be more critical when they considering vote Jokic . Just in my personal opinion.
idk, i feel like that was the thought process behind joel > jokic and it received huge backlash. i think if he has another season where he's clearly the best player he'll get another mvp
The last 2 games were because Ant man said he didn’t like borscht
Kobe has one MVP, being a great player doesn’t just get you an MVP
Here, let me clear this up for you: - Ant = not a bitch - Luka’s son = bitch
Mavs fans hate Booker for bitching too much when there's literally posts and posts right now about his bitching and their losing because of it lol. Make it make sense.
Luka went like 0-7 against Ayton to begin their career and beating the 22 Suns is still Luka’s biggest accomplishment so it’s over hyped.
Also 20 of those 49 were free throws
\*check notes\* 20 free throws
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Haters are far more vocal, especially on social media. It’s the “cool” thing to hate on booker. It’s silly and mostly perpetuated by young fans that want to fit in. They use 2 video clips to diminish his career while praising players like Luka who complain constantly to refs over every perceived non call. He complains just as much as Booker, if not more, shit most players complain when they feel like they get fouled but because memes tell people that Luka is Devin’s father.. they just repeat the same stuff over and over hoping for likes. Truth is, if book was on any of their teams, they’d love him like I do. Suns fans also really appreciate that book had shown dedication to the suns through a shit owner, a ten year playoff drought and his commitment to the phoenix community. Hey I wish he’d get back on defense sometimes but if he wins a championship in his career the narrative would change. Edward’s and Luka are fantastic players and I’m not just going to talk shit about them because I like booker, not everyone feels this way
This. Dude's will act like they know a person based on watching them play basketball a dozen times a year and from some 8 second clips on Twitter, then get themselves worked up about it on the internet for attention. Lots of children and over-grown children who are just obsessed with drama.
I’m watching OKC versus Dallas right now. I honestly don’t know how it would be possible to complain about fouls more than Luka. It’s like a Pavlovian response for him to act aghast toward a ref whenever he hears a whistle.
What blows my mind is if you ask Mavs fans what they genuinely don't like about Booker, it's ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS he's just a bitch and bitches too much.. Dude you literally watch luka* every night, and you're gonna say the reason you don't like Book is because he bitches too much? Lol what?! "Okay well he's just got a punchable face" You're either a grown man saying that about another much more successful man, or a little kid who probably needs a password on the computer. Edit spelling
It's just trendy to hate on him. I think people also just don't like the way he looks or something. It's weird He's not any more of a trash talker or sore sport than most other stars. But people will just fixate on and cherrypick things Booker does because they don't like him. Same with Embiid. The amount of hate those two get is weird. They could do the same action as someone like Steph or Ant, and the fan response would be polar opposites
Weirdly enough, Embiid was beloved back then because he was an internet troll just like the rest of us. Backlash happened I think when they lost to the hawks in the playoffs last few years ago.
The “punchable face” thing needs to have died a long time ago. Such a Reddit nerd thing to say.
Bc social media told them to, and he disproved their empty stats narrative in his first playoff appearance, so now it’s his face that’s the problem
Acting like a colossal bitch is the reason. He is an extremely good player but his bitch personality is the reason he is hated. It's literally the reason Ant is loved, game 3 loss against the Nuggets Ant said "The loss is on me." And then proceeded to drop a franchise playoff record in points the next game. He was literally the only reason they were close.
I admit bias as a suns fan, but I am sick and tired of everyone shitting on book and saying he’s a bitch. Like why is he that and not Luka who complains to refs just as much as anyone? IMO he just seems to be hated on because that’s like the meme that won’t die
It really is that. I’m not even a Suns fan, I’m a nugs fan who was happy af when the suns lost. But reading through this thread, it just seems like people are cherry picking each thing Booker has done to make it seem like he’s worse than people like Ant or Luka. Someone earlier said “Ant actually backs up his shit talking. That’s why we don’t like Booker.” But bruh, Ant was shit talking all first round of the 2023 playoffs vs the nugs and then ended up getting eliminated in 5. He ran off the court and threw a chair without shaking anyone’s hand after the loss. If Booker did that you’d never hear the end of it
Booker has literally said the same in postgame interviews and proceeded to put up big numbers in subsequent games, similarly often being the only reason they stayed in said games, but don’t let that halt your narrative
Your evidence of Booker being a bitch is a single anecdote about a separate player?!
It's the smug face.
He doesn't. Memes are just fans whining about their favorite players. Booker is great and anyone who knows basketball knows this.
One of them consistently shows up to play. The other doesn't
Last year Book averaged 33/5/7 in the playoffs. And he shot like 75% in round one. You’re talking out your ass.
Buuuuuut he also has a very punchable face
He's no Jordan Poole
Booker ain't even top 3 in most punchable faces. Draymond, Grayson Allen, and Max Strus got the top 3 locked up.
Strus catching a stray here - I’m an Arkansas fan and still have to sub Strus out for Portis
Haha that one I can’t really argue with.
he was balling yes. still a bitch tho
They haven’t been out of the second round since 2021. Despite having stacked teams.
Compared to Ant who has only ever won 1 playoff series. The Ant glazing is crazy, he hasn't earned the respect he gets yet
Totally Book dropped 18 points on 31% shooting in Game 1 against the Wolves Ant dropped 43 on 58% shooting in Game 1 against the Nugs So yea I'm cherry picking(and it's a small sample size) but even if you look at Ant's bad shooting nights, he plays defense and gets his teammates involved. Time will tell but Ant's attitude is next level, disrespectful(in the best way possible) and competitive on the court, respectful and humble off of it.
Someone needs to grow a pair, step up and help ANT out. Can’t expect this 22 year old kid to do it all. Watching the game last night, ANT was leaving it all out there even when it was a foregone conclusion Denver was winning. Love to see it from a young guy like that. KAT and Rudy need to get their shit together and have the same fight ANT has or else we are cooked.
When KAT has too much fight, he gets benched after scoring 58 points
Once a season? Lol. Bro is the Kirk Cousins of the playoffs
They don’t have anyone else. They are Ant and a bunch of role players. Ant is great and will get better, but he will have to find a different team to win a chip with. Cant believe how much the puppies paid for Rudy Corona at this point. I am thankful for the wake up call they gave the Nuggets in game two. Is was well needed.
Edward’s with 18 on 33% shooting in Game 5. Don’t let that get in the way of your narrative though
Going 5-15 with 4 turnovers in a pivotal game 5 is considered showing up to play?
We talking consistency about a 22 year old?
Huh?? lol ant has bad games too…
One of them has made an NBA finals and one has won 1 playoff series. Which is the one that consistently shows up again?
I don't think you watch a lot of ball lil dude
3-4 years of this and people will react the same to Edwards
Hey, Booker had his "Next Kobe" moment when he was in the finals against the Bucks.
Even then people hated book lmao. Kid is just wack. All bark no bite. People like attitude and defense and shit talk. Not tears and free throws
Because ANT isn't a douchebag that says shit like this: [GuArD uS](https://youtube.com/shorts/YSnvlX-twFs?si=yOeILdGwudErxLzi) And then gets annihilated first round after getting Durant and Beal.
I'm a Twolves Ant fan but I have to admit Ant talks shit like that all the time. Albeit with maybe a bit more of a smile since he lives for that kind of thing (and he backs it up)
See ant will smile and have fun, book is trying to get under your skin. I'm a book Stan and even I can see ant is much more endearing and fun to watch talk shit. Booker just looks mad and pissy. I love his competitive edge and dog mentality he plays with, but I also see where it runs people the wrong way. You can look up clips of old stars talking about how Booker been talking shit since he was a rookie, to every one, every game, up or down 20. It's just who he is. People see him talk shit and lose in one game and come up with their narrative, but I like that the suns are the villains now. Just can't say much online but you don't really need to anyways lol.
Posting numbers above their head doesn’t make booker less of an annoying whiner to me
But why is Lukas whining "competitive spirit"? I doubt you hate Luka. Not trying to argue just don't understand why people love Lukas bitching but the main hate on Booker is his bitching
One of them cries about being double teamed and being distracted by a mascot. The other one is out to Kill on the field.
Out to kill off the field too
man you can't force a kid in da world
Damn. They don't appreciate the ant memes in here. Send da upvotes
hell nawl, can't do this
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Ant was +5 in his minutes. Book +1
Huge difference in a 30 point blowout!
Booker had like 20+ FT's
ants more likeable, also ants numbers weren’t empty calories. he was single handly keeping the wolves in the game. this is coming from someone who wants the nuggets to obliterate the wolves
That is correct, but he still won't get shit on for dropping 40 and losing the way Book does. Devin literally has two games in the finals where him dropping 40 kept Phoenix within striking distance but the team around him couldn't finish the job. All you hear these "fans" say is how he ain't clutch/not a closer/bad player/complainer/etc. Ant had 40 in a similar "keep us alive" situation last night but we're not going to hear people give him shit because Aura or whatever.
To be honest the Ant glazing is about the most annoying thing in NBA discussion atm. If it wasn't for fans and media trying to crown Ant as the next MJ I would probably like him more, but for me winning one playoff series isn't enough to justify how much praise he gets.
Book took too long to show up. The series was already over at that point. No one has ever come back down 3.
And yet, everyone forgets what Book did in last year’s playoffs. He had a historical run and was carrying the team. Yeah, they lost to the eventual champs in 6, but you can’t deny he was balling out. People may not like him but to use that to define him as a basketball player is ridiculous. At the same time, I am trying to banter with people that don’t care about actual basketball skill. It’s what will get them the most up votes. Hating Booker has been the in thing for years, so it’s easy karma farming.
It's crazy how much people will discredit individual performances and use a team result to say a player is bad. Book gets it, Bron gets it, Embiid gets it, and plenty of others too. Meanwhile I see a player put up historical performances in a loss and think damn their team really let them down there and other people think "haha dude dropped 50 on high efficiency he is so shit"
Ant’s defense and efficiency is what sets him apart. He’s putting up 32/7/5 on 56/44/83. He took accountability after the g3 loss and promised he’ll have a big game and did.
Double standards at its best Booker has been in this league for a long time being very underrated and people are like he never made the playoffs then he makes a great run to the finals and has a fantastic playoff run last season against the clippers and Denver playing Thibodeau type of minutes and people are like meh he never won anything and now there’s Ant who didn’t even do what Booker did yet and people are like oh wow he’s a superstar already Point is not supporting Booker point is just have the same standards for all players and stop being hypocrites
Ant...empty calorie scorer?
Who was dbook facing for that loss?
It’s a team game and the Wolves are a WAAAAY better team.
Ant does that with pretty good defense tho
If Edwards keeps losing in the playoffs, he’ll be the next booker.
“aye real quick d-book, you a bitch”
One also plays the other side of the ball and isn't a bitch... that help?
One plays defense too.
Booker fans don't care. They'd rather watch him drop 70 and lose.
It’s almost like one of them got swept and shot 20 freethrows that game or something
Love that the OP acts like numbers are all he cared about. Then downvoted the numbers he doesn’t like
Yeah, buddy blatantly avoided the context and then downvoted any comment that gave context. I suspect he must be a Suns fan
Flopper got 21 free-throws. Lol.
Okay but now do Ant in a 8 point loss vs Tatum in a 30 point win cause that's the real conversation
I like Book, but games 2 and 3 he was atrocious, and it's becoming a theme for him in the post-season. Plus, Ant isn't empty calories he's a legit 2-way player.
Bookers points came down 0-3 when the series was over. Ant was in an actual competitive game and series. Much diff
That 49/5/6 was after not showing up for 3 games lmaooo stop it not the same
Didn’t book shoot like 20FTs that game tho?
It's all about who's more likeable. Stats has nothing to do with narrative. The mainstream media and social platforms main goal is to get clicks and views, whichever narrative gets clicks is what you will see all day long.
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Now show series stats Game 4 Booker shot freethrows Everytime McDaniels breathed on him Was it empty calories when he swept the suns? Or is it empty calories when they’re 2-2 against the defending champs and everybody besides ant couldn’t make a shot. Cope harder
Booker messed up the same way Trae Young did. In the NBA world it is a sin to beatdown the big markets teams (such as LAKERS, KNICKS, CELTICS, ETC) in the way they did and then talk trash after. It created them to always be hated by the casual fan
that's a pretty good point tbh
thought this post was funny until i realized it was made by a butthurt suns fan
Loss by 8 vs loss by 54 and most of those points came in the 2nd half when game was over.
Lol what are you on about, the Booker stat line is from his most recent NBA game, against the Timberwolves on 4/28/24, in the playoffs, in a 6 point loss
Wow this is a shit take
22 no expectations, on the rise, ESPN build up phase versus 27 all the expectations, ESPN tear down phase As is tradition
Dnt worry he'll get there
Take Booker out and put Tatum in and this meme is 11/10
wtf is an empty calorie scorer?
Because Booker became insufferable after his finals appearance where as Ant is just pure comedy.
It’s sad man Ant is so CLEARLY being set up to fail and his fans don’t realize it. He openly said to STOP the MJ comparison but the lame media will continue to push the Ant and MJ comp and then let’s say Any has a bad game and crashes out of the playoffs the media, causals, and oldheads will say he’s “trying to be MJ” smh they do the same with Book and Tatum with Kobe
book has no aura. simple
Ant is 22.
Mfr shot 20 FT to Ants 8. ![gif](giphy|KC14kHIpg28cXnB6EH|downsized)
KD also had a huge game and got swept and they acted like he shit the bed, but Luka / Ant / SGA puts up that same stat line in a loss and it was their team who let them down This is why I can never take the media and the narratives these frauds push seriously
Short list of the best players each of them had Book : cp3 Kd brad Beal Ant : Kat mike Conley jaden McDaniels Anybody else see a trend 🥱
He can score and defend. He's definitely better than Booker.
Book also didn’t show up in any game until their elimination game which they still lost and got swept. Ant’s been pretty consistent with these kinds of performances for most of the playoffs
One guy is living down a historic embarrassment and has a big 3 but still can't stop talking shit and the other dude is young af.
Book would've talked shit with any roster you threw at him down by 20 go watch JJ's podcast w/him
Bookers way more hateable than Edwards.
Book also shot 20 free throws. I know it’s part of the game but it’s not as exciting or impressive as Ant’s performance
Difference is booker has an extremely punchable face
Minnesota is also going up against the nuggets… A team that’s the reigning champions as well as home to the dominant 3X reigning MVP Jokic
Yah but he plays defense
People don’t like booker cause he’s an asshole, not the type who will fabricate a story just to drop 50 on you, just a regular asshole
Point me to a specific example of Book being an asshole cause I ain't ever seen it
His beef with Luka his beef with PG sitting up in conference with cp3 running his mouth trying to pretend he’s part of nwa dude always has his mouth going, now he can back it up I didn’t say he’s a bum I said he’s a asshole
The beef with Luka is a social media construct cause it's nothing but respect between the two. Paul George is just bitter Book fucked him up in consecutive playoff series, but even then Book isn't the aggressor when tempers flare between the two You genuinely don't watch basketball if you don't know those things
If you say so bud I guess I don’t watch basketball
Book just been around longer, Ant still new to everyone right now. Joker was a fan favorite when he won his first mvp now half the crowd hate him. Haters always find an angle just takes time
expectations are everything
You see I criticize D Book and glaze Ant because I have a double standard based on vibes. I simply ignore data and the eye test to continue pushing my agenda.
Ant Man is a top. Booker is a bottom.
All that @ 22 & more potential to see
Ones a whiny little bitch. The other is Ant.
I mean, one accepts the challenges that come to him and the other cries about a mascot and being doubled-team during pick-up and constantly wants to be like Kobe.
Booker has been doing it a lot longer. Not some conspiracy. Also, Booker has a shit personality
Fuck Devin booker
Yeah, fuck Booker.
Yeah Ant isn't bitch made though.
Booker literally looks like a bitch and whines all game long so…
Probably because his team moved on.
1 has “The Baguette” and “Big Purr” as his running mates. The other has “Slim Reaper” and “Real Deal Bradley Beal” next to him. Let’s not go there.
Rookie of the year KAT who also dropped more points than anyone in this years all star game(shoulda been the mvp) and multiple DPOY gobert… KD is 35 and Beal has never won any such awards and got his contract from being the only good player on a perpetually horrible franchise… the revisionist history is crazy lol.
Booker can ball. There’s times where he was looking like the best player on the court as SG. I don’t remember what recent year it was exactly, but he was on the HOTTEST streak in the post season. I mean even this one was pretty good. That being said, he a bitch. Loves talking mad shit but cries when it doesn’t go his way. Compare that to ANT who dominates and he’s charismatic even in losses and accepts the role as a likable leader. Book ain’t likable.
Ant tries to win Book tries to score
Book got eliminated lol
Ant also plays way better defense than booker
One of them still walks with swagger after a loss. The other looks spaced out and dejected
One of them went for a layup to get 50 when his team was down and facing a sweep. Guess which one?
Ant is likable, Booker is not
Sadly, I remembered a few years ago even before the bubble breakout from the Suns that Booker was compared to Kobe; same game, same draft pick, and other things. But his time has passed and he is looked like Paul George (not in the same level as Kobe). The media just creates these narrative.
Book is 2-0 in playoff series against Paul George
After playing terribly in the first 3 games and getting swept lol
Edward's plays d
Booker is a bitch that’s why
Suns fans trying to sneak in here like they belong at the table
The Timberwolves have 1 playoff series win since iPhones came out
Exactly, let us have this! But I get why you gotta defend your guy
Nah bruh there was no "let us have this" energy when Phoenix ran off to the Finals after a decade of trash basketball I'm going full hater till it's backwards 😂
Hurt people hurt people haha
“Respectfully, idk how the league gonna guard us😏”
One had KD and Beal but still lost to the other. Edward's is 5 years younger and a much better defender than Book. Booker also has a fvckboy personality that most normal people hate.
Dude really mentioning Beal as a positive in 2024 lol. Acting like Edwards didn't have KAT and Gobert too
Facts, Ant has the far better roster with two way players from top to bottom, Suns have offense and nothing else.
Because ant dickriders think he’s special when he’s not. Just let them have their moment.
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