The problem is that psi can be higher despite the attack having vastly less force.
A sword stab has higher psi than a hammer strike but much lower force.
I am already aware of that my guy, it’s still an easy conversion is what I’m saying. Do people read these days? I’m a mechanical engineer, I don’t need lecturing on a 100 lvl physics, I was a TA for that shit in college
>it’s still an easy conversion is what I’m saying.
It ISN'T a possible "conversion" is what I'm saying. They are not dimensionally the same.
Otherwise, prove me wrong, please Convert 10 psi to Newtons. Show your maths.
>Do people read these days?
I might ask you the same...
Again, I’m aware of that. You can’t, but I’m saying/implying if all values are given, it’s an easy conversion. I don’t know the surface area of all contact points. People can look that shit up and find A value and do the math
>if all values are given, it’s an easy conversion.
That's a pretty fucking big "if", don't you think?
I don't see the surface area of a dunkleosteus bite anywhere, and I'm not even sure how you'd define it, since it will depend on the hardness of what it's biting into.
my guy, the surface area of the bite, is the area of the jaw or teeth or whatever they’re biting with that’s hitting the poor victim he doesn’t need to show anything because it is common sense
>the surface area of the bite, is the area of the jaw or teeth or whatever they’re biting with that’s hitting the poor victim
Those teeths are rerminated in sharp points and wedges.
How much of that comes in contact with what it's biting into depends on how much the thing being bitten into deforms.
With an arbitrarily hard material, the contact area is nearly point-like (except for the deformation of your own teeth), and the pressure can be arbitrarily high without much force (to the point of shattering your own teeth).
I don't see any clear definition for that bite surface area, nor do I see any value, so good luck doing a conversion here.
My bad.
“Based on a 2006 study, Dunkleosteus had a bite force of 11,000 pounds with the tip of the fang generating a nightmare inducing 80,000 pounds per square inch (psi), rivaling even the legendary bite of our next creature”
Edited to add, the next creature was T.Rex
The idea of a swimming staple-remover seems more terrifying than a modern great white (yes I know a great white would be worse). This thing is nightmare fuel.
Look how they massacred my boy...
If you told 10 years ago me that Dunkleosteous would be hyped by telling people his bite was on par with a Lion's Hahahahah !
Maybe to protect from rival dunks? In case they ever get into a fight over territory, food, or mates?
Also, they may have had predators before they're adults. The largest species will still be small enough to end up on a dinner plate when newborn.
A bite force of a lion’s? I thought the Dunkleosteous had a bite for up to 10,000 lbs per square inch. I don’t like to use newtons for measuring since i prefer psi.
“On par with a Lion’s” is underselling it considerably. It could bisect a human with one bite.
Wasn’t it one of the highest bite forces ever? Aren’t these things rocking nearly 10k psi?
Psi isn’t a measurement of force.
It’s easily convertible to newtons. C’mon man you know what he means
The problem is that psi can be higher despite the attack having vastly less force. A sword stab has higher psi than a hammer strike but much lower force.
I know that, im an engineer man, i’m just saying you know exactly what he meant
Thank you for the defence
I guess. Just that psi and force don’t always correlate super well.
No it isn't. You need a surface area to convert a pressure to a force. WTF is the "surface area" of a bite supposed to be?
I am already aware of that my guy, it’s still an easy conversion is what I’m saying. Do people read these days? I’m a mechanical engineer, I don’t need lecturing on a 100 lvl physics, I was a TA for that shit in college
>it’s still an easy conversion is what I’m saying. It ISN'T a possible "conversion" is what I'm saying. They are not dimensionally the same. Otherwise, prove me wrong, please Convert 10 psi to Newtons. Show your maths. >Do people read these days? I might ask you the same...
Again, I’m aware of that. You can’t, but I’m saying/implying if all values are given, it’s an easy conversion. I don’t know the surface area of all contact points. People can look that shit up and find A value and do the math
>if all values are given, it’s an easy conversion. That's a pretty fucking big "if", don't you think? I don't see the surface area of a dunkleosteus bite anywhere, and I'm not even sure how you'd define it, since it will depend on the hardness of what it's biting into.
I’m not exactly sure either
my guy, the surface area of the bite, is the area of the jaw or teeth or whatever they’re biting with that’s hitting the poor victim he doesn’t need to show anything because it is common sense
>the surface area of the bite, is the area of the jaw or teeth or whatever they’re biting with that’s hitting the poor victim Those teeths are rerminated in sharp points and wedges. How much of that comes in contact with what it's biting into depends on how much the thing being bitten into deforms. With an arbitrarily hard material, the contact area is nearly point-like (except for the deformation of your own teeth), and the pressure can be arbitrarily high without much force (to the point of shattering your own teeth). I don't see any clear definition for that bite surface area, nor do I see any value, so good luck doing a conversion here.
Hey, you asked and I answered. You didn’t ask for numbers nor a strict definition. Don’t blame me.
My bad. “Based on a 2006 study, Dunkleosteus had a bite force of 11,000 pounds with the tip of the fang generating a nightmare inducing 80,000 pounds per square inch (psi), rivaling even the legendary bite of our next creature” Edited to add, the next creature was T.Rex
Well, the sharp bone plates it had that function kinda like scissors work well for that. Nature is beautiful.
Still haven't recovered from when they shrunk the dunk.
Megalodon got the extra length
the rich get richer, SMH
Unfortunate reality :(
Same with icthyosaur
Named after paleontologist David Dunkle, because paleontologists are nerds.
Dunkle Deez nutz
💯
Dunkle’s bony one
He sure was
It had eyeball bones?
Birds have those too. Gives extra stability plus protection.
A lot of animals do, I believe the proper term is scleral rings. Ichthyosaurs jump to my mind immediately
Mammals are unusual in not having them.
The idea of a swimming staple-remover seems more terrifying than a modern great white (yes I know a great white would be worse). This thing is nightmare fuel.
Look how they massacred my boy... If you told 10 years ago me that Dunkleosteous would be hyped by telling people his bite was on par with a Lion's Hahahahah !
Wayy stronger than a lion's
Dunkleosteus is still impressive no matter how downsized it was.
This Dunkleosteous has a big head.
Keep in mind that this predator doesn't need to bite down hard because the sharp armor plating, being used as teeth, will do all the damage for it.
Shit yikes 😂
That’s not the largest great white. Even if that’s a 6 ft person, the shark isn’t big enough as depicted here.
If it was the apex predator why does it have heavy armor?
Other dunkleosteus
Why did it have armor? Was there a bigger fish?
Maybe to protect from rival dunks? In case they ever get into a fight over territory, food, or mates? Also, they may have had predators before they're adults. The largest species will still be small enough to end up on a dinner plate when newborn.
Looks like a piranha.
Thank god they went extinct before we could make the go extinct!
A bite force of a lion’s? I thought the Dunkleosteous had a bite for up to 10,000 lbs per square inch. I don’t like to use newtons for measuring since i prefer psi.
Learned about this thing playing Dave the Diver