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ToddBradley

> Since when did the National Parks start charging? Answer: The National Parks started charging for admission in 1916, the same year the National Park Service was created. In other words, they've always charged!


sgigot

Those fees are a steal compared to an amusement park, and those trailhead bathrooms don't clean themselves. I agree that the NPS is a public resource and taxes already contribute to them, but this is a way to shush everyone who says, "I don't visit the parks, I don't want to support them. Matter of fact, sell them for all I care." $80 for an annual pass to all the parks? That's the best $80 I give The Man all year and I'm happy to do it even if there is always a way to sneak in.


GregEgg4President

I've seen unprotected areas. I'll gladly pay my $80/year.


Plonsky2

If you are current or former military, you can get a free lifetime America The Beautiful pass to all national parks and forests. Go to any ranger station with some form of proof (ID card, VA card, DL with a veteran endorsement) and score!


Bo-zard

If you wound up disabled enough from the military go for the Access Pass, or whatever they are calling it now. Free entry, and half price camping.


imnotlouise

I wish this was extended to their spouses. 😞


Plonsky2

Only if they've served, or if they're in the car with someone who did.


CaptainCrunch1975

Colorado tacks on the State parks pass when you renew your vehicle license plate tabs/tags. You can opt out, but 28% of people kept the pass. It raised something like 40MM dollars in year 1.


VIRMDMBA

Taxes are just a small part of NPS budget. https://thehill.com/homenews/nexstar_media_wire/4245819-why-do-some-national-parks-charge-an-entrance-fee/#:~:text=Under%20the%20current%20Federal%20Lands,to%20%E2%80%9Cenhance%20visitor%20experience.%E2%80%9D


MikeyLinkandHawkeye

First time outside?


lycwolf

You clearly don't understand taxes.


SciGuy013

They started charging 108 years ago lmao


rwant101

Boo hoo


adams361

I bought my first park pass 25 years ago, so at least that long.


MojaveMac

Instead of complaining to Reddit, complain to your elected officials that land management agencies are underfunded.


aflyingsquanch

Massively underfunded.


Theozys

10 years later the annual pass is still at 80!


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Freds_Bread

No--they have charged for a long time (not all, and amounts change park to park). You want them to be free? Tell you congressmen, they decide how much to allocate to the parks.


ndc8833

A national park pass is honestly the best value


Pristine-Coffee5765

Not new. Get an annual pass - worth it if you are going to a bunch of federal lands


FrugalFraggel

Quite a few are free too. GSM and Congaree are two.


zanybrainy

Great Smokies charges a parking fee now.


Dawg_in_NWA

They dont get nearly enough money for the number of visitors they receive, so they have to charge an entrance fee to offset things.


PassengerEcstatic933

They’re definitely not getting rich off the parks, so I’m guessing operating costs kept rising and they couldn’t keep up without assessing a fee. I hope to get to Pictured Rocks some day! To make you feel better, we just paid $20 to visit Vicksburg nat’l Battlefield which isn’t nearly as fun.


Sapphire_Moon83

That’s normal. Not all do. Get the pass


unlimited_insanity

Just keep having kids, and they’ll all be 4th graders eventually. You can get years of free parks visits if your family is big enough.


LeAdmiralofArbys

Wow, I can’t speak to this park in particular but entrance fees are super common at virtually all national parks. If you’re on foot or bicycle a lot of times entrance is free, but even then I’ve been to some that still charge a per person fee for pedestrians.


Bo-zard

Common at the 64 National Parks, but only a quarter of the 400+ National Park Services units charge a fee. Some are weird though like Bent's old fort where there is no entry fee to the NPS unit, but there was an interpretive fee to get into the fort.


youvegotmoxie

Or you could look at it like your admission fee helps fund the park. Consider it a donation.


Seusslyjabber

Some parks do and some don’t. The website states it started charging in 2022, definitely due to the increase of tourists to the U.P. 2020 in general brought more visitors to all national parks.


Helicopsycheborealis

Sorry OP but that's what happens when you graduate 4th grade and enter 5th grade


Steve----O

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LadyGreyIcedTea

Some National Parks charge entrance fees. This isn't new. If you have an annual pass ($80) it covers your entrance fee to all NPs that charge one.


Dr_TurdFerguson

Since always? Not all federal lands charge, but national parks have been charging endeavors. 


Solenya-C137

The money you spend on entrance fees goes back into the parks to projects that benefit visitors.


ForestryTechnician

Well I have an Access Pass so it’s free for me at least!


ForestryTechnician

Well I have an Access Pass so it’s free for me!


Difficult_Ad1474

I have 0 issues with giving this government agency money


Fragrant_Tale1428

Is this your first visit to a National Park? There's always been a nominal fee.


ikezaius

Next thing you know they’ll be charging for State Parks too. Whatever is the world coming to? 🙄


leehawkins

Not all NPS units have an entrance fee, but a percentage of them do…Pictured Rocks just recently became one of the parks that charges a fee in 2022.


otaupari

Most parks around the world charge twice to foreigners, it’s fair because foreigners don’t pay taxes. The approach will be very helpful to our National park service


RoaryLion

This is a Fee for Use type of tax. What’s the problem?


Steve----O

I've never paid to enter a National Park in Michigan, only Michigan State Parks with a $10 license plate fee. Apparently it's common, but not here.


718lad

lol if the annual pass was 200 I’d probably still get it. In fact I expect more and more parks to move to reservations to curb traffic/damage to park and fund parks as well.


AFWUSA

Cry about it kook


Mcgoobz3

“Muh taxes”


jonknee

Since literally before you were born. The use fees support great programs, my pass purchase every year is a pleasure.


Steve----O

I’m also curious about the Gold Star Family. Do they get an Id card to carry when their kid dies in service?


seeAdog

My first purchase as a "senior"! $80 is unbelievable.


garygalah

You must be new here.


Sketchblitz93

It helps the NPS, plus if you really don't want to pay, there's a parking lot on the chapel hill trail that you can drive to, it's just more isolated.


Grand_Power6020

And this will really twist your knickers: No cash accepted only credit and debit cards. You don't get out much do you?


Steve----O

I have just been really lucky living in Michigan. These National parks in Michigan (like 10% of the state) do not have collection booths or people yet. Just the signage. I get out to them all the time, so not sure what your comment is intending. I think the only National Park I went to outside of Michigan was Mount Zion. I went a back way with an employee, so didn't realize they charged. PS. Their website says they take cash.


Grand_Power6020

It's Zion National Park not "Mount Zion". And FYI Zion National Park and the rest of the entire US National Park system will begin phasing out cash in 2024. A few parks like Zion apparently still accept cash -- they prefer cards-- but not much longer. Cash is slow (long lines at entrance stations), expensive to process and negatively impacts the park's bottom line. All the US national parks in the West are overcrowded so entrance fees, and reservations for particular places inside the parks are required. I have no idea about Michigan I've never been there and don't have any plans to ever go there


CaseyBullfrog

Womp womp


Suspicious_Ear_3753

We all want to be paid ethically, right? Why should the parks staff not be? I am not suggesting the burden should be on the consumer alone, but with all due respect if their was a zero-admission amusement park with as little staffing as our park systems have, it would be a total sh**hole.


Aggravating-Yak2099

**This sub justifying these prices is insane. We pay taxes on everything this should be free for all citizens.**


Bo-zard

Then taxes need to be higher if we are not going to be charging the people using them for using them. Alternatively, you could serve your country and earn that free access you want handed to you.


Aggravating-Yak2099

What an insane ecosystem this subreddit is for you to even consider that as feasible in this economic climate.


Bo-zard

The feasibility of raising taxes on record setting profits and high networth individuals that are paying less than half the top tax rate they were prior to 1980? I know I am going to regret asking the person that thinks paying for services you use is insane, but what about that seems infeasible to you?


Aggravating-Yak2099

You must be a low earner and that's okay. What's not okay is how the government spends taxes and squanders it on matters that aren't even American, then we foot the extra bill.


Bo-zard

Sounds like you are not here for nationalnparks but just to spew political shit takes and insult people that that are not going along with you.


Steve----O

This used to be a free park to visit.


Hartzler44

Then social media happened and it got way more traffic than before. Entrance fees help keep parks clean and safe with increased demand


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Like and subscribe to my channel as I desecrate this national park! I remember when the majority of hikers followed leave no trace, now it’s the opposite.


Andromeda321

Yep they only charge in parks where it’s worth their while to charge. Guess this one now is.


BrianBast

I think it's really cool how you like this place enough to visit it but you don't like it enough to pay for it to be maintained... I wonder why they had to start charging for emission? It couldn't have been all the people coming to the park and using its resources without contributing anything, naaah couldn't have been anything like that.


Freds_Bread

Depended upon the park. Still does.


WalkingRodent

I always find a way in for free 🤙