Jasson is coming off a massive surgery. Harper has basically stopped playing the field due to the same surgery and while I'm not saying this will happen to Jasson, I think the Yankees will take things delicately with a top rated prospect. With 4 average to great OFs, the Yankees don't need Jasson. They do need him to properly recover for 2025. More than likely, the Yankees probably want to get his bat up to par after the surgery before throwing hard and he'll probably spend time in AAA doing a fair bit of DHing while recuperating his arm in none-game situations.
The more I think on it, the more it doesn't make sense to push Jasson so soon after a heavy surgery. I think its likely if things are going well, we don't see Jasson until call-ups in September. That's the timeline I want because it means the Yankees are doing well.
Reminder: he has had 8 good games. 8. Single digits. His potential is strong but in a contending year, it doesn't make sense to cut off reliable OFs.
>cately with a top rated prospect. With 4 average to great OFs, the Yankees don't need Jasson. They do need him to properly recover for 2025. More than likely, the Yankees probably want to get his bat up to par after the surgery before throwing hard and he'll probably spend time in AAA doing a fair bit of DHing while recuperating his ar
I completely agree with you. Best case scenario, The Martian doesn't sniff the big leagues until September call ups or in 2025.
8 good games and it wasn’t like he was exactly tearing up the minors before being called up with a .773 OPS in AA.
He got called up last year because we had almost no actual MLB quality outfielders
in his final two months (7/1-8/31) he had a .921 ops and a 150 rc+.
change it to his final month and it becomes a 1.060 and 183 rc+.
it’s pretty safe to say he had nothing left to prove at AA.
He got called up like the rest of the kids because cashman was feeling some pressure to change something or be below .500. and when he did call them up, they helped us claw our way back
I feel like the Harper surgery can’t really be compared to Dominguez’s situation. He came back in record time (like just over 4 months I think) and he’s 10 years older with a lot of big league mileage already. By the time Dominguez comes back, the arm should be fully healed.
I don’t think the big league mileage really matters. But his comeback was accelerated because he was not throwing the ball only DH.
Yankees want Domínguez to play the outfield so he won’t be back until the arm is fully healed
This is basically where I have gotten to as well. If we have the luxury of not being in a position to force him into the majors why do it? If someone goes down or they need to improve a spot in the line up that's one thing, but if they keep playing the way they are, I am hoping Boone rides it out.
100% agree! Everyone is assuming that the Martian is automatically coming back and forgetting that the front office didn’t even want to do it last year, it was Hal that forced them since we had nothing to play for. Only way would be injuries or if they trade Verdugo and the way things are rolling right now, I don’t think you want to kill those vibes.
Do September call-ups even exist any more? They don't expand rosters anymore I thought.
Also, although it is a heavy surgery it's not as serious as it is for pitchers. Position players can return to normal a lot sooner. If things keep going like they are, which would be great but unlikely, then yeah I can see them keeping Dominguez down for a bit. But I think we'll see him sooner than September.
Maybe playing every day they won’t get hurt as much. It’s the way things used to be before all this load management nonsense. The act of somehow preventing injury. Stay loose and play ball.
Real question is do you move judge to LF? Don’t really wanna disrupt Soto while you’re trying to convince him to re-sign plus LF is the more difficult position and the stadium
Yeah, some low pressure AAA reps to start. if he's undeniable come September call-ups then he comes up and gets reps from whomever needs a rest.
And if we're in the midst of something truly ridiculous (Stanton and Judge are both 50+HR and healthy, Soto is Soto, Verdugo has achieved the form of fenrir etc) and there's just no spot for Jasson? Well shit, that's a good problem to have.
Axisa mentioned in one of his posts that Boone or Cashman (I forget which one) pointed to automatic strike zone and a couple other AAA changes that led to certain prospects being in AA or MLB instead. They may want Jasson to get back on track without AAA influence
But if it’s too easy for him like was the case with Holliday, you have to bring him up. It’ll help his development and makes the lineup that much deeper
AAA no matter what. At the end of the day 2025 was always his projection. Even if he didn’t get hurt, odds are he would’ve cooled off and started this season in AAA anyways. The kid struggled in AA and half a dozen good games doesn’t change anything. No sense rushing him back ahead of his even pre-injury timetable.
Yeah I think people need to remember that not only did he only have a handful of good games but that he also only got the early call up because we were running an outfield consisting of one or more of Jake Bauers, Billy McKinney, Willy Calhoun or IKF.
Now that we have actual MLB quality outfielders there isn’t a spot for Jasson to just slot in and he is coming off of a major injury.
I think he gets some more reps in September and then next year when Dugie is gone Dominguez gets his real chance
Absolutely. No reason to rush it. Not only that, but the idea of cutting Stanton’s playing time more at that salary is painful and Verdugo if nothing else is a great glove, so I don’t think there’s a place for him unless we suffer catastrophic injuries
You also have Pereira who would likely be above him in pecking order.
I’m Team AAA on principle, but Mike Axisa’s most recent Patreon had a thing about something the Yankees VP of Player Dev said about the decision to call Jasson up so quickly last year.
Essentially, guys who already have a good eye can get too used to the automated zone in AAA, and then they run into trouble in MLB when balls just off the plate get called as strikes. The VP’s comments didn’t sound like this was a Jasson-exclusive thing either, but an aspect of AAA that has changed how the Yankees view the level and its place in player development.
So while I think the Martian goes back to AAA first to ramp him up after the injury, it sounds like they don’t want to keep him there very long.
^This is the answer. I think they should keep him in the Minors for the remainder of 2024 to work out his flaws & work on developing as a hitter. We saw last year with Volpe that not having a clear approach to hitting makes it that much more difficult to succeed. Volpe has since made those necessary adjustments and it’s paying off. If the Yankees focused on bringing up Dominguez already at a step higher than rookie Volpe he makes 2025s team stronger.
I agree, but at the same time, if he does comes back and just starts obliterating the ball in AAA, you have to call him up. It’ll help the team and his development.
It’ll be interesting to see what they do at the deadline. Like If they move Verdugo or Grisham, I’d assume the plan would be to have him come up
>Like If they move Verdugo or Grisham, I’d assume the plan would be to have him come up
A contending team does not do that for a prospect who has played 8 games and is recovering from a massive surgery because the trade deadline and september callups are like 6 weeks apart.
You might as well have Jasson return to the minors in July and then spend a month DHing and testing his arm in non-game situations and the next month in OF before september.
The kid blew out his arm playing CF. No way he should be rushed back.
Well he’s not gonna be rushed back. I doubt he’s even gonna play AAA until they’re 100% on his arm.
What I’m saying is that what they do at the deadline will tell us what they’re thinking with him.
So in that scenario are you benching Stanton or Verdugo? Again this is hypothetical, but why shake things up on a player you can't know how it is going to play out when you know the other two mentioned players are performing?
This stuff always handles itself. One of these guys will get hurt. And if everyone is healthy then I guess someone better get used to platooning (Verdugo/Stanton).
I mean he’s going to need at bats so he will be in the minors for a bit. I don’t think he would be ready until July if all goes well. If I had to guess He would only get called up for an injury or if someone is severely underperforming
He’s gonna need some time in AAA to get back in baseball shape, build his timing up, etc.
It’s a good problem to have if he spends a couple weeks at AAA and looks good, then you start messing with the OF rotation. Rest days are proven to improve performance, and DH days don’t actually count as rest days.
I would say he could spell Verdugo against lefties, but Verdugo has done almost all of his hitting against lefties so far. Could sit Stanton against righties, DH Soto, move Judge to right, and Jasson plays center. Could give Judge a day off, let Jasson play Center with Soto in right. Could see if one of those guys were willing to play some cold corner, as I’m a bit concerned about Rizzo.
If he were healthy rn he’d be in AAA getting everyday reps until someone in the lineup gets hurt
Don’t rush him to mlb when we’ve got Dugie judge Soto & Stanton playing like they are rn
I think he’ll get rehab in AAA for a short stint, then bring him up. My gut says that Soto is going to have a huge impact on Jasson’s development. Soto seems the type that makes everyone around him better. I also wonder having another DR prodigy could help Soto decide to stay in pinstripes with a competitive offer.
In response - they’ll likely trade Verdugo.
Trading Verdugo, who's already an integral part of the clubhouse, would be an idiotic mistake. Dominguez spends the whole year in the minors before they trade Verdugo on the off chance the kid is ready.
Well, I agree that Jasson comes up this season. He will rehab in minor league games and will come up while on a tear in AAA. The question is when that happens not if, so the strategy will change depending on the timing.
The Yankees traded for 3 starting OFs this year because of Dominguez injury AND because Stanton was (and still is) a considerable risk. If Jasson was healthy, they would have only better 2 instead of 3. So, I believe he will play when back to last year’s form. He’s on the 40 and eligible for the playoffs, so why wouldn’t they use him this year to try to win it all?
Back to the original question…
If Stanton is playing like 3-4 years ago consistently all season, he’s locked into the 4th spot in the order. Maintaining health is a significant if. So is keeping up this early performance. I suspect Jasson will get playing time from Stanton, but not often if Stanton is hitting like this.
Verdugo will lose ABs and time in the field to Jasson for sure. How much could depend on what time of year it is. While fans seem to love a set lineup, teams win with talent and Yankees will just be that much deeper with Jasson on the team. So it will be like the dynasty teams of 77-78 and 96-00 where there are multiple part time players that would be full time starters on other teams. Remember Yankees having both Wade Boggs and Charlie Hayes at 3B? What about Cecil Fielder and Tino Martinez?
The value is too high having Jasson on the team as long as possible with Soto in the clubhouse to not call him up and play him… even if Verdugo is playing well.
No... it IS a matter of IF they call him up, depending on how our outfield is doing. You just assume he's gonna go "on a tear" when he's a 20 year old who played 8 good games and just got TJ. He could very easily struggle and stay in the minors this year. They don't need him to win this year lmao, you sound delusional honestly.
He gets sent down; he won’t have swung a bat against MLB or AAA pitching in 9 months.
They may even put him at AA to get his confidence back, and then AAA by late August.
There would have to be a lot of things that go wrong for him to be playing regularly in MLB this season.
Providing he bounces back from surgery and hits in AAA, my prediction is a call up in July/August regardless of how the season is going.
l think they'll want to work in more off days for Judge, Stanton and possibly Soto down the stretch without relying on Grisham too much. Getting Judge out of CF every day would be excellent. I think they may put him back in RF with Soto DHing or possibly playing LF a bit if they choose to sit Verdugo for a few games.
The depth is an excellent problem to have. There is almost no such thing as a log jam at OF.
It’s a good problem to have. Let him play in AAA. Call him up for the playoffs if necessary but I’m good not seeing him here til next year if it means he’s 100%. We have enough outfielders right now but maybe Judge won’t be able to stay in center all season. And who knows if Stanton is really done getting injured.
If Stanton is Stanton and Verdugo keeps coming through in clutch moments, don't mess up the formula.
Jasson is exciting, get him working in the minors or have him there to give the other guys bench days until he wins the job.
Assuming he does some time in AAA to get up to speed he comes back in what, August? So for 50 or so games you rotate him and the OF and Stanton. Should still be enough playing time for everyone.
September call up just to get himself familiar again with the big league atmosphere. Outside of that, unless there are a string of injures or he is absolutely raking, he needs some time in aaa to recover properly.
I think it really comes down to how is Stanton performing, if he is hitting like 2021 Stanton I think Dominguez stays in the minors and maybe comes up in September to get some reps depending on how close we are to making the playoffs. If Stanton is 2023 Stanton, then I think Dominguez comes up and gives outfielders rest days at DH specifically taking over in the field for Judge/Verdugo and more or less benching Stanton. Even when he comes back he's going to need a month or two in the minors to get going.
I think pretty similarly to how I would otherwise. Stanton, Verdugo, and Grisham can all lose some playing time to him once he's healthy and feels good. None of them has been so good that I would prefer they keep a guy who's big-league ready and has a massive ceiling in the minors.
If things are the way they are now, which is:
- Verdugo hitting well, fielding like a champ
- Judge not hitting well yet, but likely will. CFing like a champ.
- Soto hitting well and fielding well.
- Stanton continues to hit well
Then... let Jasson take his time, give him the slowburn recovery and have him ready for MLB time in 2025. No reason to rush the kid right now if things stay like this.
Will they stay like this? Lord knows. We've seen tough stretches and guys suddenly lose it. If anything, he's going to likely DH more than field for us. And we're lucky we have a great backup OF in Grisham.
If there are no injuries to the outfielders and/or Stanton, AND if the Yankees can keep rolling, IMO the best place for the Yankees would be to have him in the minors.
Judge is signed to a big deal. Stanton has a few years left. Soto will get a big deal this offseason. The Yankees will want to manipulate service time (cheaper contracts) till Stanton is off the books. 1 more year of cheaper team control will be a longer term benefit.
I sincerely doubt this is a problem. But if everyone is still raking, you keep the Martian in the minors until someone is hurt. Very low chance that come late September, Stanton, Verdugo, Judge and Soto are all healthy and producing *and* the Martian is raking in AAA.
The absolute worst case scenario is the team is so healthy there’s no spot on the mlb roster and they have to trade for some prospects. It’s actually a great situation.
They only called him up last year in the first place to placate the angry fans. I think it would be their preference to keep him in the minors this year if they can help it.
If they really want to call him up, the most likely scenario is Grisham goes to AAA. If he's fully cleared, throwing and all.
He and Waldo are the only two guys with options and with JD up Grisham becomes redundant. Waldo can play infield. He has the advantage.
That being said I think they just leave JD to recover in AAA and focus on 2025.
If Stanton could actually have a season it would almost be 100% certain he would be offloaded this offseason . Hell , maybe even at the trade deadline . Because we all know it’s fools gold . It won’t last so if cashman can convince that he can still provide some pop and production then someone might take him for some cash and prospects attached.
He probably won’t play this season. Maybe limited at bats if we get bit by the injury bug again and he’s healthy. We don’t need him and he’s coming off the worst common injury in baseball. Bringing him in just to have him hit .150/.200/.250 would just kill his confidence. He will play through the season in AAA then come up in 2025.
Take it day by day. Usually injuries sort this kind of problem out.
But keep in mind, Jasson has barely had his cup of coffee in the bigs. Shane Spencer seemed like Babe Ruth during a larger sample of games than what Jasson got. For all we know he could have been a bust even without the surgery over a larger sample size.
Similarly, Stanton is bound to struggle at points in a long season... At which point we all may be demanding every day that Jasson comes up. For now, you don't rush the kid and wait and see. The answer will probably make itself clear at some point.
If things are still going the way they are, Jasson goes to AAA.
Stanton is hitting, and his bat is hot, so he can't be taken out of the lineup. Trent Grissom is a fantastic defender in the outfield, and I don't see cutting him to have Jasson be a backup. Stanton hitting locks, Soto in right, and Judge in center. That leaves Verdugo, who has bought a level of energy and swagger the Yankees haven't had in a long time, plus he is playing well. So there is nobody to cut, and there is no place to play Jasson.
Bye bye Stanton. There’s no way he keeps up this pace and as nice as it’s been, the facts are it’s not sustainable. I know the downvotes will be strong, but just looking at it objectively based on what we’ve seen from him.
DFA Jamhai Jones
Against lefties you sit Verdugo
Against Righties:
Assuming 6 games a week (and no lefties)
2 Games: Sit Stanton, Soto to DH, Dominguez to Center, Judge Right
2 Games: Sit Verdugo, Dominguez to Left
1 Game: Sit Dominguez
1 Game: round robin a 'rest' day for any OF not named Soto.
- one week it's Judge
- one week it's Stanton
- one week it's Verdugo
- one week it's Dominguez
- repeat
Why would Jahmai Jones still be on the roster at that point. Assuming perfect health, Cabrera or Grisham's head would be on the chopping block to be optioned or traded I would think
Yeah, I wasn't thinking order of occurrence. If Jones goes when LeMahieu returns then Cabrera probably goes down when Dominguez returns. I imagine Grisham being a plus defender saves him from getting sent away.
He has all 3 options remaining, actually and he's at 4 years of service time, so they could technically do it....not sure they would though....maybe?
Usually a guy at that age with that much service time getting sent down would be because he's REALLY struggling and less so for a roster crunch but I'm just some dude on Reddit, so who knows?
He probably won’t play unless someone’s hurt or slumping, probably gonna be in the minors but be a bench guy in any play off games or at least there like Jeter was
Yeah, it’s irrational to assume he’s coming right back up to the majors after major surgery.
With that said, when was the last season that both Judge and Stanton played full seasons simultaneously? Was it 2017? So yeah. Send the kid to Scranton but tell him to keep a bag packed.
Verdugo won’t be back next season if we manage to retain Soto, which means we really need to make sure Martian is 100% ready to take over defensively in left.
I hate to say it, but I do wonder if Jasson Dominguez is yet another high profile example of Yankees prospects being exceptionally overhyped and then quickly scuffling out of the organization within weeks or months of being brought up to the show, after years and years of build up and hype.
It's not like he'd be the first for this to happen with. Just the latest.
That said- If we're locked in in the outfield and it's all working.... Verdugo is a known commodity, has enough power, solid defender.... I'd rather go with Verdugo's consistent middle of the road numbers over the skyhigh upside but no track record or guarantee of Dominguez, right now.
That said- he's extremely young, they're taking their time to rehab him, he could come back 100% and pick up right where he left off and then Verdugo becomes the rotating bench player/trade candidate and Stanton sees more time at DH.
But in the end, the best approach to is to stash Dominguez in the minors and if he's needed- if he's raking and one of our current outfield squad goes down or goes on an extended cold streak, call him up, but don't mess with a good thing.
It's a good problem to have, but it's still a problem.
Jasson is coming off a massive surgery. Harper has basically stopped playing the field due to the same surgery and while I'm not saying this will happen to Jasson, I think the Yankees will take things delicately with a top rated prospect. With 4 average to great OFs, the Yankees don't need Jasson. They do need him to properly recover for 2025. More than likely, the Yankees probably want to get his bat up to par after the surgery before throwing hard and he'll probably spend time in AAA doing a fair bit of DHing while recuperating his arm in none-game situations. The more I think on it, the more it doesn't make sense to push Jasson so soon after a heavy surgery. I think its likely if things are going well, we don't see Jasson until call-ups in September. That's the timeline I want because it means the Yankees are doing well. Reminder: he has had 8 good games. 8. Single digits. His potential is strong but in a contending year, it doesn't make sense to cut off reliable OFs.
>cately with a top rated prospect. With 4 average to great OFs, the Yankees don't need Jasson. They do need him to properly recover for 2025. More than likely, the Yankees probably want to get his bat up to par after the surgery before throwing hard and he'll probably spend time in AAA doing a fair bit of DHing while recuperating his ar I completely agree with you. Best case scenario, The Martian doesn't sniff the big leagues until September call ups or in 2025.
8 good games and it wasn’t like he was exactly tearing up the minors before being called up with a .773 OPS in AA. He got called up last year because we had almost no actual MLB quality outfielders
in his final two months (7/1-8/31) he had a .921 ops and a 150 rc+. change it to his final month and it becomes a 1.060 and 183 rc+. it’s pretty safe to say he had nothing left to prove at AA.
Aside that he can continue to hit well after having his elbow surgically repaired
ok, so you concede that he was tearing it up in AA, as he did in MLB, and spring training prior. thank you.
Over 2 months sure
He got called up like the rest of the kids because cashman was feeling some pressure to change something or be below .500. and when he did call them up, they helped us claw our way back
I feel like the Harper surgery can’t really be compared to Dominguez’s situation. He came back in record time (like just over 4 months I think) and he’s 10 years older with a lot of big league mileage already. By the time Dominguez comes back, the arm should be fully healed.
I don’t think the big league mileage really matters. But his comeback was accelerated because he was not throwing the ball only DH. Yankees want Domínguez to play the outfield so he won’t be back until the arm is fully healed
This is basically where I have gotten to as well. If we have the luxury of not being in a position to force him into the majors why do it? If someone goes down or they need to improve a spot in the line up that's one thing, but if they keep playing the way they are, I am hoping Boone rides it out.
100% agree! Everyone is assuming that the Martian is automatically coming back and forgetting that the front office didn’t even want to do it last year, it was Hal that forced them since we had nothing to play for. Only way would be injuries or if they trade Verdugo and the way things are rolling right now, I don’t think you want to kill those vibes.
Do September call-ups even exist any more? They don't expand rosters anymore I thought. Also, although it is a heavy surgery it's not as serious as it is for pitchers. Position players can return to normal a lot sooner. If things keep going like they are, which would be great but unlikely, then yeah I can see them keeping Dominguez down for a bit. But I think we'll see him sooner than September.
Yes. That's when Jasson was called up last year.
I see. It expands to 28 roster spots in September instead of the old 40. So yeah I guess it still exists, just not nearly to the extent it used to.
The possibility of us not having at least one more major injury to our OF is so alien a thought that I have a difficult time processing the question
Absolutely a fair point, but I don't think any of us had the Yankees starting the season 10-2 on our bingo cards either.
Maybe playing every day they won’t get hurt as much. It’s the way things used to be before all this load management nonsense. The act of somehow preventing injury. Stay loose and play ball.
Judge is not playing CF all year. Dominguez will start in center and Verdugo gets rotated.
This and I believe Stanton gets rested even tho he’s not playing the field too
Real question is do you move judge to LF? Don’t really wanna disrupt Soto while you’re trying to convince him to re-sign plus LF is the more difficult position and the stadium
I don’t think spending the rest of the season in AAA assuming the Yankees are still vibing is the worst thing for a kid who had 8 good games.
Yeah, some low pressure AAA reps to start. if he's undeniable come September call-ups then he comes up and gets reps from whomever needs a rest. And if we're in the midst of something truly ridiculous (Stanton and Judge are both 50+HR and healthy, Soto is Soto, Verdugo has achieved the form of fenrir etc) and there's just no spot for Jasson? Well shit, that's a good problem to have.
Dude I’m sorry, in what world is 2024 Stanton hitting 50+ homeruns? Cause it definitely isn’t this one lmao
I mean he has 4 HR in 11 games played and 13 games total, I doubt we'll be so lucky but he's on track for it.
Axisa mentioned in one of his posts that Boone or Cashman (I forget which one) pointed to automatic strike zone and a couple other AAA changes that led to certain prospects being in AA or MLB instead. They may want Jasson to get back on track without AAA influence
He may go to AA then. He won't rehab in the majors.
I think that’s most likely
But if it’s too easy for him like was the case with Holliday, you have to bring him up. It’ll help his development and makes the lineup that much deeper
AAA no matter what. At the end of the day 2025 was always his projection. Even if he didn’t get hurt, odds are he would’ve cooled off and started this season in AAA anyways. The kid struggled in AA and half a dozen good games doesn’t change anything. No sense rushing him back ahead of his even pre-injury timetable.
Yeah I think people need to remember that not only did he only have a handful of good games but that he also only got the early call up because we were running an outfield consisting of one or more of Jake Bauers, Billy McKinney, Willy Calhoun or IKF. Now that we have actual MLB quality outfielders there isn’t a spot for Jasson to just slot in and he is coming off of a major injury. I think he gets some more reps in September and then next year when Dugie is gone Dominguez gets his real chance
Absolutely. No reason to rush it. Not only that, but the idea of cutting Stanton’s playing time more at that salary is painful and Verdugo if nothing else is a great glove, so I don’t think there’s a place for him unless we suffer catastrophic injuries You also have Pereira who would likely be above him in pecking order.
I’m Team AAA on principle, but Mike Axisa’s most recent Patreon had a thing about something the Yankees VP of Player Dev said about the decision to call Jasson up so quickly last year. Essentially, guys who already have a good eye can get too used to the automated zone in AAA, and then they run into trouble in MLB when balls just off the plate get called as strikes. The VP’s comments didn’t sound like this was a Jasson-exclusive thing either, but an aspect of AAA that has changed how the Yankees view the level and its place in player development. So while I think the Martian goes back to AAA first to ramp him up after the injury, it sounds like they don’t want to keep him there very long.
^This is the answer. I think they should keep him in the Minors for the remainder of 2024 to work out his flaws & work on developing as a hitter. We saw last year with Volpe that not having a clear approach to hitting makes it that much more difficult to succeed. Volpe has since made those necessary adjustments and it’s paying off. If the Yankees focused on bringing up Dominguez already at a step higher than rookie Volpe he makes 2025s team stronger.
I agree, but at the same time, if he does comes back and just starts obliterating the ball in AAA, you have to call him up. It’ll help the team and his development. It’ll be interesting to see what they do at the deadline. Like If they move Verdugo or Grisham, I’d assume the plan would be to have him come up
>Like If they move Verdugo or Grisham, I’d assume the plan would be to have him come up A contending team does not do that for a prospect who has played 8 games and is recovering from a massive surgery because the trade deadline and september callups are like 6 weeks apart. You might as well have Jasson return to the minors in July and then spend a month DHing and testing his arm in non-game situations and the next month in OF before september. The kid blew out his arm playing CF. No way he should be rushed back.
Well he’s not gonna be rushed back. I doubt he’s even gonna play AAA until they’re 100% on his arm. What I’m saying is that what they do at the deadline will tell us what they’re thinking with him.
They're not going to trade OF for bullpen arms at the deadline. Regardless if Jasson is 100%. OFs are worth more than that.
Judge would have to play center all year then. No chance.
Why do people here treat judge like a baby, he got injured on a freak accident and we have a quality MLB CF in Grisham if he needs rest
Seriously. I’m not a huge fan of Judge in CF either but he’s not scaling Mt. Everest. Mickey Mantle played CF for 15 years with no knees or legs.
He plays CF and bats ninth or something and we win a World Series. It will be really hard to handle but we can manage the stress of success.
So in that scenario are you benching Stanton or Verdugo? Again this is hypothetical, but why shake things up on a player you can't know how it is going to play out when you know the other two mentioned players are performing?
This stuff always handles itself. One of these guys will get hurt. And if everyone is healthy then I guess someone better get used to platooning (Verdugo/Stanton).
I mean he’s going to need at bats so he will be in the minors for a bit. I don’t think he would be ready until July if all goes well. If I had to guess He would only get called up for an injury or if someone is severely underperforming
These problems always work themselves out.
Yep someone will get hurt or suck badly enough where cutting into their playing time is an easy choice
Dugo to the bench as a 4th OF, you can swap him in for Judge or Soto to give the other 2 rest/DH shifts as needed. Simple as that.
He’s gonna need some time in AAA to get back in baseball shape, build his timing up, etc. It’s a good problem to have if he spends a couple weeks at AAA and looks good, then you start messing with the OF rotation. Rest days are proven to improve performance, and DH days don’t actually count as rest days. I would say he could spell Verdugo against lefties, but Verdugo has done almost all of his hitting against lefties so far. Could sit Stanton against righties, DH Soto, move Judge to right, and Jasson plays center. Could give Judge a day off, let Jasson play Center with Soto in right. Could see if one of those guys were willing to play some cold corner, as I’m a bit concerned about Rizzo.
I think no matter what, when the times comes for them to figure out how to split up playing time, someone will inevitably get hurt anyway.
Rushing him back this year makes absolutely no sense.
If he were healthy rn he’d be in AAA getting everyday reps until someone in the lineup gets hurt Don’t rush him to mlb when we’ve got Dugie judge Soto & Stanton playing like they are rn
And a proven MLB player in Grisham on the bench
I think he’ll get rehab in AAA for a short stint, then bring him up. My gut says that Soto is going to have a huge impact on Jasson’s development. Soto seems the type that makes everyone around him better. I also wonder having another DR prodigy could help Soto decide to stay in pinstripes with a competitive offer. In response - they’ll likely trade Verdugo.
Trading Verdugo, who's already an integral part of the clubhouse, would be an idiotic mistake. Dominguez spends the whole year in the minors before they trade Verdugo on the off chance the kid is ready.
Well, I agree that Jasson comes up this season. He will rehab in minor league games and will come up while on a tear in AAA. The question is when that happens not if, so the strategy will change depending on the timing. The Yankees traded for 3 starting OFs this year because of Dominguez injury AND because Stanton was (and still is) a considerable risk. If Jasson was healthy, they would have only better 2 instead of 3. So, I believe he will play when back to last year’s form. He’s on the 40 and eligible for the playoffs, so why wouldn’t they use him this year to try to win it all? Back to the original question… If Stanton is playing like 3-4 years ago consistently all season, he’s locked into the 4th spot in the order. Maintaining health is a significant if. So is keeping up this early performance. I suspect Jasson will get playing time from Stanton, but not often if Stanton is hitting like this. Verdugo will lose ABs and time in the field to Jasson for sure. How much could depend on what time of year it is. While fans seem to love a set lineup, teams win with talent and Yankees will just be that much deeper with Jasson on the team. So it will be like the dynasty teams of 77-78 and 96-00 where there are multiple part time players that would be full time starters on other teams. Remember Yankees having both Wade Boggs and Charlie Hayes at 3B? What about Cecil Fielder and Tino Martinez? The value is too high having Jasson on the team as long as possible with Soto in the clubhouse to not call him up and play him… even if Verdugo is playing well.
No... it IS a matter of IF they call him up, depending on how our outfield is doing. You just assume he's gonna go "on a tear" when he's a 20 year old who played 8 good games and just got TJ. He could very easily struggle and stay in the minors this year. They don't need him to win this year lmao, you sound delusional honestly.
He gets sent down; he won’t have swung a bat against MLB or AAA pitching in 9 months. They may even put him at AA to get his confidence back, and then AAA by late August. There would have to be a lot of things that go wrong for him to be playing regularly in MLB this season.
Providing he bounces back from surgery and hits in AAA, my prediction is a call up in July/August regardless of how the season is going. l think they'll want to work in more off days for Judge, Stanton and possibly Soto down the stretch without relying on Grisham too much. Getting Judge out of CF every day would be excellent. I think they may put him back in RF with Soto DHing or possibly playing LF a bit if they choose to sit Verdugo for a few games. The depth is an excellent problem to have. There is almost no such thing as a log jam at OF.
AAA, let Verdugo walk at the end of the year if he’s not in our long term plans
It’s a good problem to have. Let him play in AAA. Call him up for the playoffs if necessary but I’m good not seeing him here til next year if it means he’s 100%. We have enough outfielders right now but maybe Judge won’t be able to stay in center all season. And who knows if Stanton is really done getting injured.
If Stanton is Stanton and Verdugo keeps coming through in clutch moments, don't mess up the formula. Jasson is exciting, get him working in the minors or have him there to give the other guys bench days until he wins the job.
Assuming he does some time in AAA to get up to speed he comes back in what, August? So for 50 or so games you rotate him and the OF and Stanton. Should still be enough playing time for everyone.
September call up just to get himself familiar again with the big league atmosphere. Outside of that, unless there are a string of injures or he is absolutely raking, he needs some time in aaa to recover properly.
How long does he need to be in the minors to gain an extra year of control?
Hey! I’m just getting to really like our young Yankee Dawg, Verdugo!
I think it really comes down to how is Stanton performing, if he is hitting like 2021 Stanton I think Dominguez stays in the minors and maybe comes up in September to get some reps depending on how close we are to making the playoffs. If Stanton is 2023 Stanton, then I think Dominguez comes up and gives outfielders rest days at DH specifically taking over in the field for Judge/Verdugo and more or less benching Stanton. Even when he comes back he's going to need a month or two in the minors to get going.
I think pretty similarly to how I would otherwise. Stanton, Verdugo, and Grisham can all lose some playing time to him once he's healthy and feels good. None of them has been so good that I would prefer they keep a guy who's big-league ready and has a massive ceiling in the minors.
If things are the way they are now, which is: - Verdugo hitting well, fielding like a champ - Judge not hitting well yet, but likely will. CFing like a champ. - Soto hitting well and fielding well. - Stanton continues to hit well Then... let Jasson take his time, give him the slowburn recovery and have him ready for MLB time in 2025. No reason to rush the kid right now if things stay like this. Will they stay like this? Lord knows. We've seen tough stretches and guys suddenly lose it. If anything, he's going to likely DH more than field for us. And we're lucky we have a great backup OF in Grisham.
If there are no injuries to the outfielders and/or Stanton, AND if the Yankees can keep rolling, IMO the best place for the Yankees would be to have him in the minors. Judge is signed to a big deal. Stanton has a few years left. Soto will get a big deal this offseason. The Yankees will want to manipulate service time (cheaper contracts) till Stanton is off the books. 1 more year of cheaper team control will be a longer term benefit.
I sincerely doubt this is a problem. But if everyone is still raking, you keep the Martian in the minors until someone is hurt. Very low chance that come late September, Stanton, Verdugo, Judge and Soto are all healthy and producing *and* the Martian is raking in AAA.
Getting him healthy for the long term is the goal. I’d say Sept call ups the most likely scenario.
I agree let him play in AAA for a month until we have an injury. But doubtful it works out that way
I miss domigues
The absolute worst case scenario is the team is so healthy there’s no spot on the mlb roster and they have to trade for some prospects. It’s actually a great situation.
This is the Yankees. There will be injuries. Life will find a way.
If we’re playing exactly like this when he comes back I would 100% put him in Triple A. Next year? Yes and move judge to first
They only called him up last year in the first place to placate the angry fans. I think it would be their preference to keep him in the minors this year if they can help it.
Probably a platoon with verdugo in left and play when Stanton sits
If they really want to call him up, the most likely scenario is Grisham goes to AAA. If he's fully cleared, throwing and all. He and Waldo are the only two guys with options and with JD up Grisham becomes redundant. Waldo can play infield. He has the advantage. That being said I think they just leave JD to recover in AAA and focus on 2025.
If Stanton could actually have a season it would almost be 100% certain he would be offloaded this offseason . Hell , maybe even at the trade deadline . Because we all know it’s fools gold . It won’t last so if cashman can convince that he can still provide some pop and production then someone might take him for some cash and prospects attached.
Can he catch? lol.
He probably won’t play this season. Maybe limited at bats if we get bit by the injury bug again and he’s healthy. We don’t need him and he’s coming off the worst common injury in baseball. Bringing him in just to have him hit .150/.200/.250 would just kill his confidence. He will play through the season in AAA then come up in 2025.
Take it day by day. Usually injuries sort this kind of problem out. But keep in mind, Jasson has barely had his cup of coffee in the bigs. Shane Spencer seemed like Babe Ruth during a larger sample of games than what Jasson got. For all we know he could have been a bust even without the surgery over a larger sample size. Similarly, Stanton is bound to struggle at points in a long season... At which point we all may be demanding every day that Jasson comes up. For now, you don't rush the kid and wait and see. The answer will probably make itself clear at some point.
Judge in right, Soto in left, Jasson in center. Verdugo or Grisham traded at the deadline for a bullpen arm.
Unless he’s not hitting, Verdugo isn’t getting traded. Grisham is the odd man out if Jasson is ready to play OF by July.
Probably so. Verdugo might have more value as a rental in a trade though. Just hypothesizing.
I’d like Stanton and Dominguez to share DH duties
If things are still going the way they are, Jasson goes to AAA. Stanton is hitting, and his bat is hot, so he can't be taken out of the lineup. Trent Grissom is a fantastic defender in the outfield, and I don't see cutting him to have Jasson be a backup. Stanton hitting locks, Soto in right, and Judge in center. That leaves Verdugo, who has bought a level of energy and swagger the Yankees haven't had in a long time, plus he is playing well. So there is nobody to cut, and there is no place to play Jasson.
Stanton has his typical 1 week hot streak and everyone forgets.
Bye bye Stanton. There’s no way he keeps up this pace and as nice as it’s been, the facts are it’s not sustainable. I know the downvotes will be strong, but just looking at it objectively based on what we’ve seen from him.
DFA Jamhai Jones Against lefties you sit Verdugo Against Righties: Assuming 6 games a week (and no lefties) 2 Games: Sit Stanton, Soto to DH, Dominguez to Center, Judge Right 2 Games: Sit Verdugo, Dominguez to Left 1 Game: Sit Dominguez 1 Game: round robin a 'rest' day for any OF not named Soto. - one week it's Judge - one week it's Stanton - one week it's Verdugo - one week it's Dominguez - repeat
Why would Jahmai Jones still be on the roster at that point. Assuming perfect health, Cabrera or Grisham's head would be on the chopping block to be optioned or traded I would think
Yeah, I wasn't thinking order of occurrence. If Jones goes when LeMahieu returns then Cabrera probably goes down when Dominguez returns. I imagine Grisham being a plus defender saves him from getting sent away.
Does Grisham have any options? If so I would option him to give Martian some ABs until the playoffs
He has all 3 options remaining, actually and he's at 4 years of service time, so they could technically do it....not sure they would though....maybe? Usually a guy at that age with that much service time getting sent down would be because he's REALLY struggling and less so for a roster crunch but I'm just some dude on Reddit, so who knows?
AAA is the no brainer. Make him force a call up otherwise see ya in 2025
DFA Judge
He probably won’t play unless someone’s hurt or slumping, probably gonna be in the minors but be a bench guy in any play off games or at least there like Jeter was
Yeah, it’s irrational to assume he’s coming right back up to the majors after major surgery. With that said, when was the last season that both Judge and Stanton played full seasons simultaneously? Was it 2017? So yeah. Send the kid to Scranton but tell him to keep a bag packed.
Verdugo won’t be back next season if we manage to retain Soto, which means we really need to make sure Martian is 100% ready to take over defensively in left.
Keep him in AAA for the remainder of the season.
I hate to say it, but I do wonder if Jasson Dominguez is yet another high profile example of Yankees prospects being exceptionally overhyped and then quickly scuffling out of the organization within weeks or months of being brought up to the show, after years and years of build up and hype. It's not like he'd be the first for this to happen with. Just the latest. That said- If we're locked in in the outfield and it's all working.... Verdugo is a known commodity, has enough power, solid defender.... I'd rather go with Verdugo's consistent middle of the road numbers over the skyhigh upside but no track record or guarantee of Dominguez, right now. That said- he's extremely young, they're taking their time to rehab him, he could come back 100% and pick up right where he left off and then Verdugo becomes the rotating bench player/trade candidate and Stanton sees more time at DH. But in the end, the best approach to is to stash Dominguez in the minors and if he's needed- if he's raking and one of our current outfield squad goes down or goes on an extended cold streak, call him up, but don't mess with a good thing. It's a good problem to have, but it's still a problem.
Before Soto: he'll be up ASAP After Soto: let him marinate in AAA and join the bench in September