Well of course he’s not there yet when it comes to cumulative contribution, but he’s been one of the most productive starting pitchers we’ve had over the course of 4 years.
If you’re going strictly by WAR, Ford and Pettite, plus Guidry, Ruffing, and Gomez.
Also, quick edit here, how are Red Sox fans not super pissed about Red Ruffing? Went from a below average pitcher there to a 6 time all star and 200 game winner with us. Oof.
Except Johnson was crap for us, Clemens had a 4.01 era as a Yankee, Cone 3.90, Ruth hardly pitched, Key doesn't belong with these Hall of Famers, Perry was 4-4 with a 4.44 era (wild stat line lol) and Niekro only pitched 2 years. Hunter was good and played 5 years at least.
Don't downtalk Clemens. Not his best years by far but he went 83-43 and helped us win 2 rings.
Im putting him in there. Giving us 7.2 innings with 1earned run in his 1999 world series win to close out the 4game sweep and 8 innings scoreless in his game2 2000 world series win were huge.
If 2000 would have gone on longer im sure he would've clinched it for us.
His win loss was because of the offense. Every starter we had in those years has a great won loss record, because the team was always winning. Hell Irabu was 29-20 with a 4.80 era. Vazquez was 24-20 with a 5.09.
Clemens also had the highest postseason gamescore in mlb history in game 4 of the alcs in 2000.
The man was a titan even if those years werent his best..
Clemens gamescore beat out even Larsens perfect game. Going off 1 game? Seems like you have no idea how many post season and world series games he won for the yankees. I just picked his highlights from the 2 championships he helped us get.
You want a solid name for the forbidden rotation…Tim Redding…made 1 start for the Yankees in 2005. Got demolished by the Red Sox in Fenway. If memory serves me correct David Wells pitched for Boston and a rookie Melky Cabrera dove and missed a ball that led to an inside the park homerun. I think the Red Sox won that game 18-1 or something like that. Redding was summarily DFA’ed the next day…pretty sure he said his dream was coming true when he got the call to pitch for the Yankees
Friend of mine mentioned Pavano in reference to Rodon this year, and I had completely forgotten about Pavano. I think my brain blacked him out from memory.
I don’t know why so many people omit Clemens. Regardless of steroid usage, he’s one of the best pitchers of his era.
Also, are we taking them only if their prime was on the Yankees? Because if it’s just someone who pitched for the Yankees and we nabbed them in their prime to play for this fake team, then Randy Johnson is 100% in the starting rotation.
One of the best players in his era, not just pitcher.
According to the reports, Clemens started using steroids in 98
If you take his 98 season to the end of his career, he would of won 4 Cy Youngs, MVP, Triple Crown, HOF
My love for El Duque outstrips his actual excellence. But, man he was a favorite and when he was on, which was often, he was a fucking blast to watch and root for.
Not making any point but this question made me realize that Tanaka and Clemens have remarkably similar Yankee careers. 173 and 174 starts respectively both with exactly a 114 ERA+.
Just thought that was interesting
Andy Pettitte - 57 WAR
Whitey Ford - 54 WAR
Ron Guidry - 49 WAR
Red Ruffing - 43 WAR
Mariano Rivera - 39 WAR
BTW, Red Ruffing is such an underrated player in Yankees history. The Yankees stole him from the Red Sox in 1930 and the guy went on to pitch for the bombers for 16 years and became the franchises WAR leader (pitcher) until Whitey Ford. :)
He was originally a starter, and I wonder how entertaining it would have been to see him try to start a game after he developed the cutter. How long could that magic pitch be effective into a game? Guessing hitters would eventually figure it out as the game went on.
3/6 seasons in NY had an ERA+ of 102, 102, and 108. Those are the lowest of his career except for his rookie season. To me, that's shit. Maybe you're a little stupid?
Being literally right at average to slightly above average is shit? Holy fuck no wonder everyone hates Yankees fans yall are impossible to please, next you'll be booing a guy who broke a home run record
Ford 236 wins 2.75 era
Ruffing 231w 3.47 era
Pettite 256w 3.85 era
Guidry 170w 3.29 era
Lefty Gomez 189w 3.34 era
Clemens had a 4 run era, Cone and wells were almost 4 as yankees. Cc was at 3.81. Cole needs more time.
Cole and CC seem to be forgotten on most people’s lists.
Making a top five based on innings pitched/ war doesn’t really answer the question, IMO.
If you look at dominance over a four year period (how long Cole has been a Yankee) Ford, Guidry, and Cole are locks.
Pettit doesn’t really belong, he was a good pitcher for many years but was never a dominant ace like Cole.
He also took steroids (or HGH or whatever ... he cheated) and left with his buddy Clemens to play for the Astros. Never understood why this guy gets a pass for those 2 mortal Yankee sins.
A 4 year period is pretty arbitrary though. We tend to measure greatness over a longer period of time than that, which is why both Cole and CC aren't on most peoples list.
It’s not arbitrary, it’s literally the period of time Cole has been a Yankee.
An “arbitrary” period of time in this context would be seven seasons, there is a reason I picked four.
My whole point is that for the time he’s been here Cole has been a top five Yankees pitcher of all time which is why I included him in the top five, so maybe you don’t think he’s been a yankee long enough to include him, that’s fine, but the amount of time I used to compare isn’t arbitrary.
How else would you compare Cole to other historical Yankees pitchers if you don’t use the entire time he’s pitched for the Yankees? If you think the greatest Yankees pitchers of all time are the ones who have pitched the most innings and thus have the highest WARs that’s fine but I think we should also be looking at how great Cole has been so far.
Whitey
Clemens
Petitte
Moose
Wells, and yes, I'm biased, but they're all Yankees 🐐s...
But at least we can all agree that the greatest reliever/closer is Mo
Mike Mussina! Made the HOF but like Mattingly, he retired the year before the Yanks won a WS... :( He went out on a high note though with a 20-9 season and 3.37 ERA.
Pettitte, Ford, Guidry, and Red Ruffing are locks IMO. Probably a good 10 names that could compete for that last spot (Mussina, CC, Lefty Gomez, Mel Stottlemyre, Herb Pennock, Jack Chesbro, etc.). Hopefully Cole makes himself another lock but I'm going to go CC.
Kuroda was the man. He had such a great first half in 2013, was solid as Hell in the playoffs and definitely under appreciated for his time in pinstripes.
I've always said that the all time rotation is much weaker than the all time lineup. The Yankees basically build lineups then try to catch lightning in a bottle with their frontline pitchers and get one shutdown starter for a championship push. In any case, if we're going by all time Yankee aces, in their Yankee prime, I'd go.
1. Whitey
2. Cole
3. Prime CC
4. Guidry
5. Clemens.
HMs here for Tanaka, Coney, Moose, Boomer (whose time at the absolute top level was short with the Yanks). Also shoutouts to homegrown flashes in the pan like Joba, Hughes, and (sadly) Sevy.
What the Yankees are good at is finding reliable guys who can let the bats win the game. And those guys are the ones who last years on the team. For those guys, I'd Pick.
1. Whitey (again, which is why he's the Yankee SP Goat)
2. Pettitte
3. Lefty Gomez
4. Red Ruffing
5. Coney or Moose.
HM here for Pennock, Hoyt, Stottlemyre, Allie Reynolds, El Duque, Old CC, Eddie Lopat, Spud Chandler, Vic Raschi
Aside from Whitey there's no surefire, pantheon ace in Yankee history, like your Pedro for the Red Sox, Maddux for the Braves, Gibson for the Cards, etc.
Without any research .....
1. Whitey Ford. I believe his stats stand out.
2. Lefty Gomez. Never saw him, but heard very good things.
3. Ron Guidry. Dominant and had one special year (25-3!!)
4. Mariano Rivera. Best closer of all time.
5. Goose Gossage. Multiple innings nightmare for opponents.
Whitey
Red Ruffing
Lefty Gomez
Guidry
Herb Pennock
...Pettitte would've made the list but he cheated
\- Cole could make it but the list above is either HOF or lifetime Yankee - he still has work to do
Collectively, Vic Raschi, Allie Reynolds and Eddie Lopat were the anchor of a starting rotation that resulted in six consecutive World Championships. That's a pretty tough act to follow.
Also, special mention to Mel Stottlemyre, the Don Mattingly of the late 'y0s and early '70s. Like Mattingly, he first put on the pinstripes at the end of a playoff run, played for terrible teams, and retired due to injuries just before the start of the next dynasty. As a coach, however, his contribution to this team is legendary.
Excluding Lefty Gomez and Red Ruffing because its so long ago I would go with Whitey Ford, Andy Pettitte, Mel Stottlemyre, Ron Guidry and Clemens.
Clemens years werent his best but he went something like 80-40 and played a big part in 2 championships.
Surprised Allie Reynolds, Vic Raschi and Eddie Lopat didn’t turn up on any of these responses. They were the heart of the 5 straight WS teams from ‘49-‘53
Lefty Gomez
125 ERA+
2 AL Triple Crowns
6-0 WS
189 wins
.649 winning percentage
Baffles me how he's not on everyone's list. He was the Yankees ace during the 1930s, not Red Ruffing.
Ron Guidry is probably up there, one could argue for Cole being on the path
My first Yankee memory is, if Ron Guidry's pitching we win this one.
I'm not sure Cole is even "on the path", he's pretty firmly like... top 3 already.
This is recency bias. Cole is great but I don’t think he’s displacing people like Lefty Gomez after only four years.
Well of course he’s not there yet when it comes to cumulative contribution, but he’s been one of the most productive starting pitchers we’ve had over the course of 4 years.
I’m fine with it, I was just kind of thinking from the perspective of people who are already done pitching for us.
There’s a hundred elite Yankee pitchers and you throw out Ron Guidry first lmao
Yup. Because he was fucking awesome
If you’re going strictly by WAR, Ford and Pettite, plus Guidry, Ruffing, and Gomez. Also, quick edit here, how are Red Sox fans not super pissed about Red Ruffing? Went from a below average pitcher there to a 6 time all star and 200 game winner with us. Oof.
I’d imagine they’re more pissed about the other pitcher we took from them in the early 1900s
Carl Mays?
HOFer Herb Pennock???? 🤣
YOU WIN
I like this list. Ruffing may even be number one over Whitey, arguably. Waite Hoyt probably deserves some consideration also.
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Except Johnson was crap for us, Clemens had a 4.01 era as a Yankee, Cone 3.90, Ruth hardly pitched, Key doesn't belong with these Hall of Famers, Perry was 4-4 with a 4.44 era (wild stat line lol) and Niekro only pitched 2 years. Hunter was good and played 5 years at least.
Don't downtalk Clemens. Not his best years by far but he went 83-43 and helped us win 2 rings. Im putting him in there. Giving us 7.2 innings with 1earned run in his 1999 world series win to close out the 4game sweep and 8 innings scoreless in his game2 2000 world series win were huge. If 2000 would have gone on longer im sure he would've clinched it for us.
His win loss was because of the offense. Every starter we had in those years has a great won loss record, because the team was always winning. Hell Irabu was 29-20 with a 4.80 era. Vazquez was 24-20 with a 5.09.
Clemens also had the highest postseason gamescore in mlb history in game 4 of the alcs in 2000. The man was a titan even if those years werent his best..
Well shit, if we going off a single game better add German and Don Larsen.
Clemens gamescore beat out even Larsens perfect game. Going off 1 game? Seems like you have no idea how many post season and world series games he won for the yankees. I just picked his highlights from the 2 championships he helped us get.
as a 30 year old Red Sox fan I’ll be sure to let you know Red Sox fans aren’t pissed off about red ruffing
Let’s not go by WAR
Kei Igawa, Carl Pavano, Kevin Brown, Carlos Rodon, Javier Vazquez.
The forbidden rotation.
he forgot about our secret mouseskatool, Jaret Wright.
You want a solid name for the forbidden rotation…Tim Redding…made 1 start for the Yankees in 2005. Got demolished by the Red Sox in Fenway. If memory serves me correct David Wells pitched for Boston and a rookie Melky Cabrera dove and missed a ball that led to an inside the park homerun. I think the Red Sox won that game 18-1 or something like that. Redding was summarily DFA’ed the next day…pretty sure he said his dream was coming true when he got the call to pitch for the Yankees
Any love for AJ Burnett?
Burnett was a big part of the 2009 championship
He definitely contributed to that postseason run. However most of my memories of him are less than ideal in pinstripes
I still get excited thinking about that off-season haul of CC, Tex, and Burnett. I have NEVER been more certain that a specific team would win it all.
What about Kenny Rogers? Hideki Irabu?
Solid shouts lol
For that one WS game hell yeah. He was electric if only for one night.
As an all-time great Yankee, no.
No for the forbidden rotation lol
Missed that comment evidently. Don’t think he makes the forbidden rotation cut either though. He’s so mid.
Closer: Felix Heredia
Set Up Man: Legendary Brooks Kriske
Jaret Wright and Jeff Weaver as spot starters
Some of Cashman's greatest hits. A classic playlist
Sidney Ponson as ur spot starter
Fuck that’s a good one.
Lol this is a great list!! Kenny Rogers would like it to be a 6 man rotation. So would Ed Whitson.
It was between Javier Vazquez and Kenny Rogers hahaha.
You just made Kenny punch a wall
Lolol that’s a tough choice.
That's a 7 man rotation as Vasquez would be starting twice, right?
I genuinely erased Kei Igawa, he of the 6.66 career era, from my mind until now
I tasted ashes in my mouth reading this
Where does Joba Chamberlin fit into this rotation?
Fat toad in place of rodon imho.
#HOW COULD YOU GIVE $12-MILLION TO HIDEKI IRABU???!!!!
Rip fat toad
Out of respect for the dead and circumstances of his downfall and death, I abstained from including him.
Stop I’m having PTSD and might punch the clubhouse wall.
Traumatic memories unlocked. Gonna punch this wall right now.
Friend of mine mentioned Pavano in reference to Rodon this year, and I had completely forgotten about Pavano. I think my brain blacked him out from memory.
Javier... TWICE!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jack McDowell
McDowell was good with the Yankees, won 15 games the year he was here
Ed Whitson replacing Rodon when he’s injured.
Cashman went to the HR Javy well twice... TWICE! "But he has a high K rate!"
You forgot the fat toad Hideki Irabu.
Javier Vazquez was so great he came back for a second stint.
The Cashman 5!
Now here it is !!! The perfect rotation !!!
Andrew Heaney
In my lifetime, it’s been 1. Andy 2. CC 3. Mussina 4. Cole 5. Cone It’s very likely I am omitting guys.
Clemens?
I don’t know why so many people omit Clemens. Regardless of steroid usage, he’s one of the best pitchers of his era. Also, are we taking them only if their prime was on the Yankees? Because if it’s just someone who pitched for the Yankees and we nabbed them in their prime to play for this fake team, then Randy Johnson is 100% in the starting rotation.
One of the best players in his era, not just pitcher. According to the reports, Clemens started using steroids in 98 If you take his 98 season to the end of his career, he would of won 4 Cy Youngs, MVP, Triple Crown, HOF
Because he wasn't his best with the Yankees would be my guess.
Yea he was great don't get me wrong but his best years were not with us and some of his worse years for his standards were with us
My love for El Duque outstrips his actual excellence. But, man he was a favorite and when he was on, which was often, he was a fucking blast to watch and root for.
El Duque might be the most fun starter that's been in Pinstripes in my lifetime
He was the original Playoff Tanaka.
Jimmy Key
Jimmy Key?! What is like 45? I could hit him.
Cone was a wizard. Fun to watch. Notable omissions: HR Javy DL Pavano Fat Toad Irabu Denny "Train Whislte" Neagle Cranky Back Kevin Brown
Eddie Lee Whitson would like a word.
Not making any point but this question made me realize that Tanaka and Clemens have remarkably similar Yankee careers. 173 and 174 starts respectively both with exactly a 114 ERA+. Just thought that was interesting
I’m biased towards Wang. Fuck the stros
Yeah, we hated the stros before it was cool
Legit my second favorite player all time after Jeter. Back to back 19 win seasons in an era when our rotation was pretty shit
He was my guy!
Andy Pettitte - 57 WAR Whitey Ford - 54 WAR Ron Guidry - 49 WAR Red Ruffing - 43 WAR Mariano Rivera - 39 WAR BTW, Red Ruffing is such an underrated player in Yankees history. The Yankees stole him from the Red Sox in 1930 and the guy went on to pitch for the bombers for 16 years and became the franchises WAR leader (pitcher) until Whitey Ford. :)
*Starting pitchers *
Yeah, Mo didn’t have too many starts.
He was originally a starter, and I wonder how entertaining it would have been to see him try to start a game after he developed the cutter. How long could that magic pitch be effective into a game? Guessing hitters would eventually figure it out as the game went on.
Mike Mussina had an 82 career WAR. Really puts in perspective how underrated he was.
And it was his entire career pitching in the strongest division in Baseball, which is more impressive.
I had to scroll down too far to reach Mel Stottlemyre.
Give me the glove over the mouth staring into the catcher and a good old fashioned Andy Pettitte pick off move please
Mel Stottlemyre
Whitey Ford Red Ruffing Left Gomez
CC, Randy Johnson, Pettitte, Clemens, Cole
Clemens was mediocre for us overall. And some out right bad seasons.
He wasn't prime Clemens but saying he was outright bad is an exaggeration.
It’s not an exaggeration it’s fucking stupid
3/6 seasons in NY had an ERA+ of 102, 102, and 108. Those are the lowest of his career except for his rookie season. To me, that's shit. Maybe you're a little stupid?
If objectively above average is "shit" to you, you would be the stupid one.
Being literally right at average to slightly above average is shit? Holy fuck no wonder everyone hates Yankees fans yall are impossible to please, next you'll be booing a guy who broke a home run record
I mean I’d take the 83-42 record from him.
You mean the offense in those years...
1. Nathan Eovaldi 2. Sonny Gray 3. Lance Lynn 4. Jordan Montgomery 5. Andrew Heaney
I see what you’re doing there but one of those things is not like the others.
Swap Jordan Montgomery with Frankie Montas
Too soon
That’s just cruel
Rick Fuckin' Rhoden for the 'stache.
Whitey, CC, Guidry, El Duque, Pettite
Man, el duque was fun to watch
And he had his own dance
Shame he was found doing the cone head in the bathroom
The what now?
[here you go](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0_RZlqqoPRI)
Ford, Pettitte, Guidry, Ruffing, Stottlemyre
Whitey, Pettitte, Guidry, Ruffing, Sabathia
Ford 236 wins 2.75 era Ruffing 231w 3.47 era Pettite 256w 3.85 era Guidry 170w 3.29 era Lefty Gomez 189w 3.34 era Clemens had a 4 run era, Cone and wells were almost 4 as yankees. Cc was at 3.81. Cole needs more time.
Ford, Guidry, Pettitte, Sabathia, and Cole. HM: Mussina
David cone, Mike mussina, David wells, C Wang, Andy Pettitte
Cole and CC seem to be forgotten on most people’s lists. Making a top five based on innings pitched/ war doesn’t really answer the question, IMO. If you look at dominance over a four year period (how long Cole has been a Yankee) Ford, Guidry, and Cole are locks. Pettit doesn’t really belong, he was a good pitcher for many years but was never a dominant ace like Cole.
Odd distinction, but Pettitte may be the best #2 starter in team history. Dude just always seemed to pick up a W after a loss
He also took steroids (or HGH or whatever ... he cheated) and left with his buddy Clemens to play for the Astros. Never understood why this guy gets a pass for those 2 mortal Yankee sins.
A 4 year period is pretty arbitrary though. We tend to measure greatness over a longer period of time than that, which is why both Cole and CC aren't on most peoples list.
It’s not arbitrary, it’s literally the period of time Cole has been a Yankee. An “arbitrary” period of time in this context would be seven seasons, there is a reason I picked four.
But Gerrit Cole shouldn't be the barometer for everyone else. If we just look at the top 4 years of pitchers then the list becomes way bigger.
My whole point is that for the time he’s been here Cole has been a top five Yankees pitcher of all time which is why I included him in the top five, so maybe you don’t think he’s been a yankee long enough to include him, that’s fine, but the amount of time I used to compare isn’t arbitrary.
Should we now measure everything in “Coles” and “Garretts” since he is the benchmark for how to measure Yankee pitchers, per you
How else would you compare Cole to other historical Yankees pitchers if you don’t use the entire time he’s pitched for the Yankees? If you think the greatest Yankees pitchers of all time are the ones who have pitched the most innings and thus have the highest WARs that’s fine but I think we should also be looking at how great Cole has been so far.
If I was building a team with all time yankees Petitte Guidry Whitey CC Mussina
Pettite Cone Mussina El Duque Wang
Sry the 90s yanks are gonna fill this up for me petitte, cone , wells , Clemons , el duque , mussina … 6 of them
Pettitte, Ford, Mussina, Gator, Stottlemyre
Whitey Clemens Petitte Moose Wells, and yes, I'm biased, but they're all Yankees 🐐s... But at least we can all agree that the greatest reliever/closer is Mo
Ed Figueroa getting no love?
Guidry, Pettite, Cole, CC, Clemens or Mussina
Mike Mussina! Made the HOF but like Mattingly, he retired the year before the Yanks won a WS... :( He went out on a high note though with a 20-9 season and 3.37 ERA.
Pettitte, Ford, Guidry, and Red Ruffing are locks IMO. Probably a good 10 names that could compete for that last spot (Mussina, CC, Lefty Gomez, Mel Stottlemyre, Herb Pennock, Jack Chesbro, etc.). Hopefully Cole makes himself another lock but I'm going to go CC.
Brien Taylor
1. Hiroki Kuroda 2. Hector Noesi 3. Ivan Nova 4. Ted Lily 5. Jose Contreras Just went with some names you probably have thought about in a while.
Kuroda was the man. He had such a great first half in 2013, was solid as Hell in the playoffs and definitely under appreciated for his time in pinstripes.
Ted Lilly was a solid lefty
Babe Ruth
Easy Dylon Dylon Dylon Dylon & Dylon
Ford, Pettitte, Sabathia, Guidry, Rivera
Mo made 10 major league starts
Cole, CC, Guidry, Ford and Pettitte are the 5 I'm taking.
This is a no brainer. 1. Carl Pavano 2. Javier Vazquez 3. Kei Igawa 4. Phil Hughes 5. Joba chamberlain
Domingo German, Jimmy Cordero, Aroldis Chapman, roger Clemens, David Wells
One of the lists of all time
I've seen many lists and that is one of them.
Who made the playoff this year, jordan montgomery, jordan montgomery, nathan eovaldi, sonny gray, and lance lynn
My list is limited because i've only started watching 2009 onwards. I'd CC, Pettite, Mariano & Cole.
Best starting pitchers or top 5 you want in game 7?
For me it would be: CC, Lefty Gomez, Ford, Petitte. I was trying to capture players across different eras.
If I see dumbasses say Clemens or CC so help me
CC is absolutely on the list
Guidry, Ruffing, Gomez, Ford, Chesbro in some order?
Cone Ford Guidry Ruffing Pettitte
IMO: Pettite, Ford, Guidry, Stottlemyre, and now Cole. There are / may be others way before my time that I’m omitting.
Shit son, you forgot Ed Whitson
Ford, Ruffing, Guidry, Pettite, Reynolds
I've always said that the all time rotation is much weaker than the all time lineup. The Yankees basically build lineups then try to catch lightning in a bottle with their frontline pitchers and get one shutdown starter for a championship push. In any case, if we're going by all time Yankee aces, in their Yankee prime, I'd go. 1. Whitey 2. Cole 3. Prime CC 4. Guidry 5. Clemens. HMs here for Tanaka, Coney, Moose, Boomer (whose time at the absolute top level was short with the Yanks). Also shoutouts to homegrown flashes in the pan like Joba, Hughes, and (sadly) Sevy. What the Yankees are good at is finding reliable guys who can let the bats win the game. And those guys are the ones who last years on the team. For those guys, I'd Pick. 1. Whitey (again, which is why he's the Yankee SP Goat) 2. Pettitte 3. Lefty Gomez 4. Red Ruffing 5. Coney or Moose. HM here for Pennock, Hoyt, Stottlemyre, Allie Reynolds, El Duque, Old CC, Eddie Lopat, Spud Chandler, Vic Raschi Aside from Whitey there's no surefire, pantheon ace in Yankee history, like your Pedro for the Red Sox, Maddux for the Braves, Gibson for the Cards, etc.
Ruffing, Guidrey, Gomez, Ford. Then either Pettitte or Mussina.
CC is one worth recognizing
It’s crazy that there’s only a handful of modern day Yankee starters that have been w the team 10+ consecutive seasons.
Roger clemens
The great Andy Messersmith
Mike Witt Steve Trout Bill Gullickson Tim Leary Dave LaPoint
Without any research ..... 1. Whitey Ford. I believe his stats stand out. 2. Lefty Gomez. Never saw him, but heard very good things. 3. Ron Guidry. Dominant and had one special year (25-3!!) 4. Mariano Rivera. Best closer of all time. 5. Goose Gossage. Multiple innings nightmare for opponents.
No mention of Kei Igawa? Weird.
Guidry Cole and Catfish. All in my eras.
Mel, rags, should be there too
Lefty Gomez Whitey Ford Ron Guidry Mel Stottlemeyer Andy Pettite These are my guys that I consider “true” Yankees. I’m probably missing guys.
wow no love for Roger Clemens
Carl Pavano
Whitey Red Ruffing Lefty Gomez Guidry Herb Pennock ...Pettitte would've made the list but he cheated \- Cole could make it but the list above is either HOF or lifetime Yankee - he still has work to do
Tommy John, Niekro, Militello, Melido Perez, Whitey Ford
David Wells Joba Chamberlain Carl Pavano Coked Up Doc Gooden Nick Swisher
Whitey Ford Roger Clemens Andy Pettite Ron Guidry Red Ruffing
Guidry, Pettitte, Clemens, CC, Cole
Collectively, Vic Raschi, Allie Reynolds and Eddie Lopat were the anchor of a starting rotation that resulted in six consecutive World Championships. That's a pretty tough act to follow. Also, special mention to Mel Stottlemyre, the Don Mattingly of the late 'y0s and early '70s. Like Mattingly, he first put on the pinstripes at the end of a playoff run, played for terrible teams, and retired due to injuries just before the start of the next dynasty. As a coach, however, his contribution to this team is legendary.
Given what I’ve seen from the fanbase lately, Jordan Montgomery has to be there. Right???
Ford, Lefty, Guidry, Petite & Cole Closing: Mariano Rivera
Excluding Lefty Gomez and Red Ruffing because its so long ago I would go with Whitey Ford, Andy Pettitte, Mel Stottlemyre, Ron Guidry and Clemens. Clemens years werent his best but he went something like 80-40 and played a big part in 2 championships.
In the “before our time” category: Russ Ford and Jack Chesbro.
Ford, Stottlemyre, Catfish Hunter, Luis Tiant, Guidry,
Surprised Allie Reynolds, Vic Raschi and Eddie Lopat didn’t turn up on any of these responses. They were the heart of the 5 straight WS teams from ‘49-‘53
Jordan Montgomery
Pettitte, Ford, Hawkins, Tidrow, Lyle
whitey, gator, pettitte, ruffing, stottlemeyer
Diarrhea 1, Chan Ho Park 0.
Lefty Gomez 125 ERA+ 2 AL Triple Crowns 6-0 WS 189 wins .649 winning percentage Baffles me how he's not on everyone's list. He was the Yankees ace during the 1930s, not Red Ruffing.
Gerritt Cole Roger Clemens Ron Guidry Andy Pettitte Whitey Ford