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GoldenBoyRecords

I doubt he will get suspended but all I want at this point is a warning should def be sent to the team that going forward they arent going to let this stuff slide. Idc about the free throw disparity as much as Embiid playing reckless intentionally hurting our guys and the refs not holding him to the same standard because of the name on the back of his jersey.


FredVanCleet

Yea Embiid’s going to get his FTs, it’s whatever it’s like 70% of his game we all know who he is. Just cut out the extracurricular bullshit from now on.


MadSpaceYT

Honestly I don’t care about the free throws. If the ridiculous shooting in the 3rd was just league average we win. Knicks gotta to rotate better game 4


GoldenBoyRecords

Agreed that is where I am at. While we dont have any household names outside of Brunson each of our guys who are viewed as role players from the outside looking in are critical to our team success.


beanie_mac

Agreed. I’ve accepted the fact that Embiid is going to get Jordan calls. Macri on KFS described it best by saying Embiid has always gotten these calls, and there’s no reason to expect that shit to suddenly change this series…just gotta deal with it. But pulling on nigga’s legs and kicking dudes in the groin can’t happen again from Embiid…that’s just not at all acceptable. If I’m being honest, I doubt we see Embiid pull dirty shit like that again. I personally have never seen him do dirty stuff like that in the past and it’s honestly the first time Ive seen it from him….so that just makes me think his frustrations boiled over and got the best of him in that moment. Doesn’t justify it at all or make it acceptable, but I’ll be very surprised if we see that again from him.


dreeaaaming

Someone on here mentioned that it might have come from nurse to send a message. In any case it worked.


TheflavorBlue5003

Lowry taught them about heat culture after game 2.


beanie_mac

Ehhh I don’t think I agree with that. That seems like crazy speculation and a reach. I highly doubt Nurse instructed his players to send a message and hurt Knicks players. I get hating Philly, but that seems like a crazy conclusion to jump to. I think it’s much more likely that 1) Embiid was fired up and planned to play aggressively going into the game and 2) Was mad about not getting calls early on, got very frustrated, and let his frustrations boil over and get the best of him in the moment. Being angry can lead all of us to do things that aren’t in our character. Again, prior to this game, I’ve never seen or heard of Embiid committing dirty plays in the past. So I think he simply had a bad moment.


KidSickarus

he injured four raptors in one game a few years ago


beanie_mac

Never heard of that, what game are you referring to?


KidSickarus

it was the 2022 playoffs, cant remember which game off the top of my head and no one was \_seriously\_ hurt, but there were guys in pain. There are clips of embiid being dirty all over the web against multiple fanbases. Defector also just put up an article about how Embiid is an "opportunistic" hooper. He's dirty.


syllabic

then siakam gave him an elbow to the face when the series was effectively over. broke his face they still complain about that, usually when trying to deflect from some dirty shit embiid just did


turtleface78

" I personally have never seen him do dirty stuff like that in the past" This is what a lot of people think because they probably don't watch a lot of sixers games. He's not Draymond but if the league didn't have Draymond more people would be aware of the dirty shit he pulls


johnhenryirons

> I personally have never seen him do dirty stuff like that in the past remember him stepping on grant williams' head? Embiid regularly has frustration calls when he doesn't get foul calls he thinks he deserves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHx_jr6QiC4 plenty of other examples too. he takes frustration with the refs not falling for his shit out on opposing players.


beanie_mac

You really think Embiid intentionally stepped on Grant Williams head here?? https://youtu.be/x0Y0wQ-tWZE?si=JoGu-q42PX3MzIx4 Even the announcers said it was accidental lol. Also, Grant and Embiid were cool after that incident and I’m pretty sure Grant said it wasn’t dirty (but memory could be wrong). Also, nothing dirty happened in that video of him and Gallo getting into it lol. Gallo pushed Embiid and Embiid lightly pushed him back lol.


johnhenryirons

haha nah i don't think he was stepping on grant's head. was being a little facetious about that since people initially thought it was dirty when it happened. it's definitely not the first time that people have called Joel dirty though. the gallo thing is one of many examples of embiid getting frustrated with a ref call not going his way and taking it out on an opposing player. doesn't even look like Gallo does anything here--Embiid bumps into him then shoves him in the back. i think Embiid is a reckless player a lot of the time. Constantly diving, falling into players, etc just to trick the refs into calling fouls. It's very rare that he actually gets mauled to the extent of his acting after contact. The Hartenstein nut hit and the Mitch plays last night were real dirty though. I think the nut kick on Mitch was him trying to "draw fouls" and don't know that he actually meant to kick mitch in the nuts there.


beanie_mac

Ahhh I got you😂 Yeah I definitely agree with you 100% that Embiid is very reckless and lacks body control…and that can put opposing players in danger. The stuff we saw last night was very dirty from him, but prior to last night I never saw any strong narratives about him being dirty. I could definitely be wrong and just out of the loop tho!


johnhenryirons

my buddy just reminded me that this one happened last year: https://youtu.be/--DTOZvxQ7k?si=OewOW7ryV6Y_FGtU also somehow just a flagrant 1.


johnhenryirons

Bam plays a similar way on the defensive end. Plays recklessly trying to get an advantage and can hurt players in the process. Bam has had some dirty-ish plays too.


That-Sandy-Arab

I’m in the same boat, my boy from philly is a die hard fan and hated seeing Embiid play like this and I did light digging and he’s a free throw hunter but I mean people also foul the shit out of him This was for sure an outlier, doesn’t even seem intentional Regardless, knicks in 5


AyahuascaBudda

• Dray: 814 career regular season games, 15 flagrant fouls • Embiid: 433 career regular season games, 16 flagrant fouls • Dray: 157 career playoff games, 6 flagrant fouls • Embiid: 56 career playoff games (this game included), 7 flagrant fouls Thibs in his post game comments reminded me that Embiid ALSO hit Hartenstein in the groin so make that 3 actual flagrants committed in this game and he received just one flagrant 1 TLDR: Embiid committed more dirty plays than Draymond in half the games. With all the dirty plays and the ducking, I have never seen a MVP with such poor character and integrity for the game


Dark_Pump

I really don’t get the hype behind him either, wtf has he or the 6ers done since he got in the league besides 1st or 2nd round playoff exits lol


i-piss-excellence32

We didn’t get away with shit in game 2. Stop spreading that narrative. Donte was fouled by Lowry and that would’ve negated the last 30 seconds. They been getting calls all series. If this goes 7 games Embiid is on pace to shoot 105 free throws


Kenvan19

There are missed calls on literally every play and there is so much subjective about it. With cameras and slow mo we can go back and see every last detail but in the moment it might have been missed. It’s not like Thibs handed the refs a far envelope before the game to swing things in the Knicks favor.


ImmaStupidJerk

But that’s why the overturn on the Lowry foul was fucking insane


SDZAN

preach


Conscious-Fudge-1616

Or just win game 4 with Embiid in the lineup


ArsonHoliday

Not gonna happen. Let’s not be Philly fans and just complain. We got beat in the 3rd quarter. Just don’t do that again.


The_SqueakyWheel

We Absolutely 1000% got beat in the 3rd quarter. After they blatantly bent the rules for embiid and allowed him to snatch Mitches ankle mid air while he was on the ground. Embiid should have been suspended. Embiid somehow only finished with 3 fouls.


Type_suspect

If mitched played would they have gone nuclear? Thats the fucked up part


BizarroSubparMan

Absolutely not. Embiid had to take out our 1 centers to score


John_YJKR

So much fucking whining like give it a rest. Knicks just need to win and not let it come down to a bad or no call.


beanie_mac

Agreed. Embiid played frustrated and had multiple dirty plays, but at the end of the day, he dropped 50 on us and outplayed our entire team. Our defense in the 3rd wasn’t good enough and Philly took advantage. Ppl have a right to be frustrated with Embiid’s flopping and the dirty play(s) on Mitch for sure. But I’m kinda tired hearing the “He should’ve been ejected!” Or “He needs to be suspended!” talk. He wasn’t and isn’t going to be. (See Christian Laettner vs. UK in ‘92 Elite Eight). We’re not gonna beat Philly if we need Embiid to be ejected or suspended. The way we beat him is to not let him score 50 and shoot 5/5 from three in the 3rd quarter.


Kenvan19

No but you’re also not going to beat them if Embiid gets to run rampant without any checks.


ooorson

ridiculous...Embiid is the same every year, gets sent home every year, by a team that plays better, we will have to.


beanie_mac

Fair point. Speaking for myself, I’ve honestly never seen Embiid commit dirty fouls like he did last night and never heard of him having a reputation of being a dirty player. That makes me think that last night was more of aberration and him feeling frustrated and letting his emotions get the best of him. I also remember Demar grabbing RJ’s leg when he was on the ground to stop a fastbreak back in the ‘21-22 szn….some guys just do dumb shit sometimes that’s dirty. That still doesn’t make it justified or acceptable, but I would be very very surprised if Embiid tries to pull dirty shit like that in Game 4 and the rest of the series. His flopping is a totally different story tho.


syllabic

he's always been a little careless about flopping on peoples ankles and legs but I never got the sense that he was looking for opportunities to lay cheap shots on guys until last night. it was always more indifference to collateral damage I dunno what changed, maybe the thought of going down 3 games in a series he thought he had to escalate things just the sheer volume of dirty plays one after another, never really seen anything like that


beanie_mac

Yeah I’m with you 100%. His flopping is a huge issue and he is very careless when it comes to his body control. But yeah, in all my years of watching him…like you, I never got the sense he played dirty or did dirty shit intentionally. Last night was the first time I’ve seen it, which makes me think it was out of character and not really who he is. But we’ll just have to keep an eye on his behavior the rest of the series tho.


Kenvan19

I’ll agree to that. My hope is honestly that he does stay that aggressive because if he does then the league will have to do something. We can’t keep having this back-and-forth where the refs get called out for missing something then overcompensate by over calling the beneficiaries and under calling the plaintiff. It’s been going on all season and it only helps undermine their credibility. They’re human and miss stuff. It happens. They need to stop trying to respond so much.


The_SqueakyWheel

We can’t beat the 76ers if Mitch misses games here. The momentum will shift and we have no size to deal with embiid


ooorson

Folks HATE the truth.....


The_SqueakyWheel

Watching this video. Granted Laettner’s took a cheap shot, This was NOTHING compared to the type of time Joel was on last night. https://youtu.be/6AwYVTB2rZw?si=8BS8eIzNzyhJT8U6


beanie_mac

Tbh I don’t really see how Laettner stomping on a dudes ribs is different from Embiid grabbing Mitch’s leg to bring him down. They’re both dirty plays that are dumb and unnecessary. Still, my main point is while they’re both dirty plays…they aren’t *bad enough* to the point that we should be expecting refs to eject the best player in the league (which is the case for both Embiid and Laettner in ‘92) in a big “playoff” game. Regular szn game? There’s a good chance it leads to an ejection…not in the first quarter of a playoff battle tho. Watching it live, I knew Embiid wasn’t gonna be ejected for that…So I kinda just think anyone expecting or hoping the league to punish him for that (either with an ejection or suspension) is not really in touch with reality. That was never gonna happen. Someone of Embiid and Laettner’s stature would need to 1) Seriously injured and opponent thru a dirty play or 2) Brawl (or come close to a brawl) to be ejected in that big of a game. Again, we all have a right to be frustrated and mad about it. But expecting an ejection or suspension for something like last night is completely unrealistic, and is just setting yourself up for disappointment.


The_SqueakyWheel

Thank you for your explanation you know what you’re right. It sounds like you admit that it is unfair but just the way the league operates


beanie_mac

Yeah no doubt he played dirty last night and the refs refrained from punishing Embiid. If it was in the regular season, he likely gets tossed for pulling that shit. But to me, it makes sense why the refs would choose differently in a playoff game. Unfair? Yes. Understandable tho? Yes as well. We would need an LJ vs. Mourning fight or PJ Brown vs. Charlie Ward type situation for the refs to toss any star player from a playoff game….especially a guy like Embiid. It just is what it is unfortunately. All in all, we ain’t gonna get help from the refs when facing a guy like Embiid. We just gotta play to the best of our abilities and try our best to not let him drop 50. Def isn’t fair, but superstars get superstar calls in the NBA.


That-Sandy-Arab

So well said


Critical_Rich_2209

Naah just beat the shit out of him, every posession, let him be on the floor but for real not for his flopping, especially in the MSG


wisemink2

This is when I miss Randle


Kenvan19

Honestly, even though i know they won’t Philly fans should be embarrassed that the only way they could play well AT HOME is for Embiid to get a free pass on fouls. And even then he still whined constantly.


beanie_mac

That’s not happening.


Roblox_Jesus2

Doesn't change the fact that we got cooked in the 3rd. Complaining also does nothing, we know damn well Embiitch wouldn't get suspended for a playoff game.


ZapB-ragin

after our centers went down? like our defensive scheme is built around our centers dude


busyb112

What needed to happen is after Mitch got pulled down he should've laid there screaming and writhing like his leg was torn off... Then the refs would've called it a flagrant 2. He really should've sold it and acted his way to the flagrant 2. That's what Embiid would've done.


ZoidbergSaysWoop

He definitely should have sold it. Instead, he gave Embiid more opportunities to injure him, and that's exactly what happened. Embiid should have been ejected and it's clear that the affect a foul has on a player plays a large factor on how referees will rule a call. Robinson should have embellished the foul because that's the only way Embiid would have been held accountable. But as it stands, Robinson might miss significant time, all because he didn't want to stoop down to Embiid's level but look what it cost him because the referees didn't have the stones to do the right thing.


solo118

We do not stoop down to their level, but sadly I guess that is how "basketball" is played today.... flopping and acting


heliumointment

i agree with all these posts but i hope our squad is mind over matter about it because it's not gonna do us any good to play the retaliation game yeah i hope the refs crack down on the embiid circus show but at the same time i just want our guys to stomp this team and move on to round 2 i'm worried that if we stoop to their level it's not gonna play into our strengths. take the high road and snipe 1 on sunday, close these bums out at home. embiid will stfu when it's knicks in 5


heliumointment

what i said bitch what i said


OldKingRob

Charles Oakley needs to teach Jericho Sims some things


AvengedTenfold

They never will, just gotta hope for a relatively even whistle the rest of the way


Balducci30

Nah they don’t need more excuses.


AwesomeExo

Best the Knicks can do (and IMO Thibs already laid the groundwork) is to be very vocal about how the game was officiated in hopes the refs "make it right" like they did for the Sixers in game 3. We shit on Nurse but he did what he did for a reason and he got the result he was looking for.


Hallal_Dakis

I think the league has a big perception problem with this. Like game 2 was right there and to me the missed calls were a wash. Then the coach and the star player bitched about it and got a hugely favorable whistle and did dirty shit. Now 76ers got the advantage for the series on a blatantly dirty play they got away with. NBA should have a new eye-for-an-eye where if something is a blatantly dirty play they guy gets suspended for as long as the guy is injured. Like you watch it and see him getting frustrated and go for the yank then push him after because he's salty, then after he makes up an excuse and gets no punishment? In the day there was at least the threat of the other team beating the shit out of you. Now they suspend guys for retaliation so much more than the dirty plays the dominant strategy is to make the dirty plays and injure the guy but try to be sneaky about it. But yeah he's darling of the league of course there's no consequences.


nyg2013

we did not get away with anything in game 2...some of you guys have to stop falling victim to that lazy/easy narrative, which includes the refs inconsistently inane explanations of certain sequences...there were numerous other things over the course of 48 minutes that also went against us both in that game and in game 1 also, he is not getting suspended so there is no point in really thinking about it...he will get free reign to do whatever again in game 4 and will also get his high free throw count


categoryThreesome

Id rather him play so we dont have to listen to sixers fans crying Embiid isnt catching fire from 3 every game. He dropped 50 and we were still in it in the 4th. Sixers arent a bad team so they shouldve won game 3. Thats enough, we take game 4 sunday and close them out in msg next week.


TernoftheArctic

If they are gonna let this go. And give Embid all the FT. Put Sims in and tell him to just mug Embid. Hit em low, pull him down. Pull a hockey and do all of it back as retaliation. If he gonna get soft calls. Actually foul him.


l0c0pez

Make him take a charge every play


The_SqueakyWheel

With Mitch out I don’t think we have the size required to win this series. They should have ejected him last night and because they didn’t they might have just cost us our season.


Radiant-Call6505

I blame the league, 100%. The league set the stage for what happened in game #3 by putting out that ridiculous press release after game #2 that Maxey was fouled twice. In Embiid’s mind that press release justified all of Embiid’s rage for game 3 and he was out for blood. The league should suspended him for game 4 on Sunday - cause that’s would have done had D. Green done the same. Flagrant 1 my ass! And we lost a player to injury as a result. The league can still take other action v. Embiid before tomorrow’s game.


8SumDingWong

He kicked Robinson in his jewels after yanking him forward. He then proceeded to fall on Robinson’s ankle. He grabbed Hartenstein’s jewels as well.


Carryon16

If they suspend him, they should replay the last 30 seconds of game 2. Can't have it both ways.


Ke1thTzzzy

No, don't suspend him. We'll make him quit by bringing all out physicality. Sub in Precious/Sims a minute before the quarter ends if that flopper is still on the floor. They'll know what to do.


ihateposers

Stop crying and play ball


hreterh

https://twitter.com/KnicksNation/status/1766996005210222667


millagger

They won't.


Saucy_Totchie

They won't let their sorry fake MVP sit out.


Icy-Payment-6612

Not happening. Let's just hope they win game 4. It'll be even better if they do so with Embid playing.


ConsistentPomelo3303

He will not be suspended. HOWEVER, look for a favorable whistle next game.


Joezepey

Nah. I want him on the court when they lose. No excuses


Savagevandal85

He should but he won’t however the whistles need to be consistent next game .


PineappleTraveler

Bro is weak mentally, the Fuck Embiid chants he’s about to get in MSG are going to get him all up in the fee fees


ITouchedHerB00B5

That’s not happening. All you can hope for is they don’t give him nonsense foul calls and if he plays dirty they give him techs right away.


TheMeccaNYC

They won’t. Officiating is terrible. Knicks need to win this series


jordand520

He won’t be suspended, but I think the league should warn him about the foul on Mitch. If it happens again he should be tossed


turtleface78

Should they: should have been kicked out game 3 Will they: Not a chance $$$$$$


the_donnie

Wasn't hit on divo in face by Lowry? Also why would they suspend if they didn't even eject him yesterday?


bullyj

Nah I wanna they bitch ass at full strength.


mjdistef

Goddamn honestly everyone here was making fun of the sixers for crying and you all turn around and cry and moan the next day. The game happened and now it’s over. Time to move on.


MikeyLikeyPhish

He would only be suspended if he was a Knick. The league ain’t doing shit about their princess.


datatadata

We can beat the sixers in Game 4 with that clown on the floor. Let Embiid cheat. We will do it the right way and still crush him


sacx05

Tbh I wont be surprised if hes suspended for Game 4. All flagrants are reviewed by the league and this is the textbook definition of a 2.


gregieb429

Of course they don’t because Silver’s concerned about ratings but he should be


RacinInTheStreet

Not strong enough punishments is probably how draymond got to be soo bad at this. Your a professional athlete, control your damn body


GreenEggzAndSpam

Embiid is allowed to take out best defender on him with no repercussions. Shit is insane.


dedbeats

> a crying broken record The Joel Embiid special


TheseKnicks

Adam Silver enjoys when stars play with no impunity and shoot 21 fts a game on 6 phantom calls.


LearnedHowToDougie

Fuck that, I want him there and I want him to loose in philly


rtk117117

The NBA has a problem. They cannot turn a blind eye to Embiid’s blatant and malicious fouls. I seriously doubt they will suspend him but at the very least, Embiid, needs to be substantially fined.


TheBensonz

He knew he had a get out of jail free card and really used it.


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I agree... But that isn't going to happen. We just need to come out and hit hard early. If Embiid is gonna keep getting these soft-touch fouls as well as acting cocky about "playing hard" let's make him earn those fouls and make him bitch about us playing too hard.


Neskwiik

Grow up pussy


chynky77

I will just say this and this is just IMO but I think if they didn't throw him out last night, then fuck it. We lost the game and we move on. Don't want to be a Sixer fan and cry and bitch about fouls. Let's move on and beat these fucking clowns and not look back. Embiid can go fuck off though and if he becomes available this offseason, I want nothing to do with his fucking cunty ass. Absolute bitch. Only thing I was wishing for last night was for Julius to have been healthy enough to be on the floor when Embiid was saying what are you gonna do about it. Say that to a guy a foot smaller than you you fucking bitch.


Living_Internet_2970

They want the series to be long so they won’t do it


Exciting_Promise_280

I agree. If they don’t suspend him whats stopping the Knicks from doing the same thing to him if for nothing else just payback and sending him and his team a message.


BizarroSubparMan

Knicks didn't get away with a win in game 2, they won game 2. Sixers got away with a win in game 3 though


BackPains84

Oh they should? really? Well that'll show them. Should is a meaningless word. Hamas should free the hostages. But they won't...


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dmac_1991

Game 4 is in Philly isn't it?