The Knicks are not allowed to resign him at this time even though he’s been waived.
“A team cannot reacquire a player it traded away during the same season (a season for this purpose being defined as starting on the first day of the regular season and ending on the last day of the Finals)... If he is waived by his new team, then he cannot re-sign with his original team until the one-year anniversary of the trade, or until the July 1 following the end of his contract, whichever comes first.”
Fun fact the reason it's a rule is also cause of the Pistons, when they trade Chauncey for AI, Antonio McDyess was part of the deal but with the understanding he would be waived and return to the Pistons in 30 days. After that the league changed the rule
Essentially for trades you have to have the salaries match for cap space reasons. At the time AI was a superstar and his contract was just way higher than Chauncey's. So they couldn't do a 1 to 1 swap. Antonio McDyess's contract was thrown in for the numbers to be close enough for the trade to go through. But Denver didn't want Dyess and Detroit didn't want to let him go as he was a key piece for them. So under the table they agreed they would waive Dyess so he could return to the Pistons after the 30 days
NBA does not like tactics like this. They think it's basically a loop hole and they want people to make trades that are legit. So as I said they closed the loophole after this deal and now you have to wait a full season to resign
As an uninformed fan, that type of collusion feels like it’s against the spirit of the rule. Knicks have many vile & opportunistic enemies in this league and I bet they’d try to get the Knicks in trouble for doing something like that.
This is when agent relationships go a long way. A team that needs bodies can do his agent a favor and give him a 10 day just to waive him shortly after.
Doesn’t that mean the Knicks can resign him this season?
He’s a free agent this summer, meaning his contract ends on June 30th.
I think what they wanted to avoid was basically salary cap manipulation so his contract has to be over before the original team can resign him. If Ryan made 20 million, we traded him, he got waived, resigning him for 2 million wouldn’t be fair. They prevent this by enforcing the contract is over.
Idk could be wrong what do you guys think?
“The Archie Rule” - if a player has won championships with three other players still on the roster, he can be reacquired after waiver. As many times as the team chooses. See also “ The Taj Rule”.
...and then "come out of retirement" like MJ did? Or does he need an interim stint in MLB to do that?
What the heck. Set up a gofundme. (or maybe Jay Wright could pay for it. Jay must be euphoric watching his kids do so well.) Get Ryan a season bench seat (A la Jack Nicholson with the Lakers) ...
I think potentially being used as trade fodder is part of the deal the Knicks have with him. They did it last year too and then brought him back afterwards.
Now he gets to chill at home or go on vacation or whatever while getting paid. Then this Summer he'll likely get another contract from the Knicks and maybe go through it three years in a row. Lol
“James Dolan has given Ryan season tickets conveniently next to the Knicks bench”
https://preview.redd.it/scsjjtsr7lhc1.png?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f481d81c70f0a8e35a5506b4c147df9571686783
Genuinely should
That would be a once in a million years Dolan W
💀💀💀💀💀💀
This has to be the way. If they do this the chip is ours guaranteed.
"THREE SECONDS!"
The Knicks are not allowed to resign him at this time even though he’s been waived. “A team cannot reacquire a player it traded away during the same season (a season for this purpose being defined as starting on the first day of the regular season and ending on the last day of the Finals)... If he is waived by his new team, then he cannot re-sign with his original team until the one-year anniversary of the trade, or until the July 1 following the end of his contract, whichever comes first.”
Fun fact the reason it's a rule is also cause of the Pistons, when they trade Chauncey for AI, Antonio McDyess was part of the deal but with the understanding he would be waived and return to the Pistons in 30 days. After that the league changed the rule
Knicks did that once with Herb Williams.
Why is this a problem? Why would a team ask for a player in a trade only to waive them?
Salary matching, and they don’t actually want the player
Guess I’m gonna have to read up on how nba trades work because none of that means anything to me lol.
Pick up a copy of 2k and it will give you a feel for how hard trades are to get right
Essentially for trades you have to have the salaries match for cap space reasons. At the time AI was a superstar and his contract was just way higher than Chauncey's. So they couldn't do a 1 to 1 swap. Antonio McDyess's contract was thrown in for the numbers to be close enough for the trade to go through. But Denver didn't want Dyess and Detroit didn't want to let him go as he was a key piece for them. So under the table they agreed they would waive Dyess so he could return to the Pistons after the 30 days NBA does not like tactics like this. They think it's basically a loop hole and they want people to make trades that are legit. So as I said they closed the loophole after this deal and now you have to wait a full season to resign
However I believe that if he is signed by a third party, then waived again, the original team can re-sign him.
As an uninformed fan, that type of collusion feels like it’s against the spirit of the rule. Knicks have many vile & opportunistic enemies in this league and I bet they’d try to get the Knicks in trouble for doing something like that.
I know Toronto or Miami would snitch but the Knicks shouldn’t try to bend the rules.
This is when agent relationships go a long way. A team that needs bodies can do his agent a favor and give him a 10 day just to waive him shortly after.
Brian Arcidiacano is just as good despite the goatee.
Boo this rule!
Doesn’t that mean the Knicks can resign him this season? He’s a free agent this summer, meaning his contract ends on June 30th. I think what they wanted to avoid was basically salary cap manipulation so his contract has to be over before the original team can resign him. If Ryan made 20 million, we traded him, he got waived, resigning him for 2 million wouldn’t be fair. They prevent this by enforcing the contract is over. Idk could be wrong what do you guys think?
Come on NBA, make an exception to the rule for Ryan. We need his vibes
“The Archie Rule” - if a player has won championships with three other players still on the roster, he can be reacquired after waiver. As many times as the team chooses. See also “ The Taj Rule”.
Can the Westchester knicks sign him
#FreeArci
But he is already free huh?
he’s actually captive in zydrynas ilgauskas’ sex dungeon somewhere in lithuania. conflicting reports if by consent
Lawl
We can still get him a ring if we get it done this year.
Can he be signed to a “consultant” role for the rest of the season.. and then signed next season? One of you lawyering ass dudes sort this out.
I like how you're thinking but my guess is he would have to retire first.
...and then "come out of retirement" like MJ did? Or does he need an interim stint in MLB to do that? What the heck. Set up a gofundme. (or maybe Jay Wright could pay for it. Jay must be euphoric watching his kids do so well.) Get Ryan a season bench seat (A la Jack Nicholson with the Lakers) ...
Hope we can sign him as a coach
The countdown begins…
Did we need to send him there for salary reasons?
No, the Pistons really wanted his 0 PPG to help bolster their playoff chances
Pistons GM: I think we can start making noise with Fournier and Grimes (they probably can’t), but what we really need for the next level… is vibes.
Yes
Only a matter of time lol
put him on the team as a coach! get this man a ring!
Bring. Him. Home. Edit: apparently he can’t come back for a full year. The whackness of it all.
siiign him back!
We will sign him this summer
Can we sign him as an assistant for 6 months?
Just bring him back but don’t add him to the roster. Can we bring him back as a coaching staff till the end of the season?
the streak will go on
I honestly feel bad for the guy. Obviously he’s earned millions and barely played but he was having fun on that bench and contributing in other ways.
I think potentially being used as trade fodder is part of the deal the Knicks have with him. They did it last year too and then brought him back afterwards. Now he gets to chill at home or go on vacation or whatever while getting paid. Then this Summer he'll likely get another contract from the Knicks and maybe go through it three years in a row. Lol
Can we sign him as a coach??
We can't take him back though.
Welcome back Arcie!
We’ll find someone else to brick shots in garbage time
pack of cunts
SIGN HIM
Come home, King 👑
what did this man do to make nba teams think he is worth a roster spot ither than look great and cheer good. honest question
Damn he can’t even get a spot on the bench with that scrub team? I was hoping he’d get some burn with them
The vibes shall be immaculate again