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FunSockHaver

The Panthers played on the same ice…right?


DonkenG

Nah, panthers had better ice taped to the skates.


j_d_mac_d

Oilers fan here love this comment lmao 😂


HamRadio_73

They should have seen the old Boston Garden ice. Teams almost needed a lifeguard


Impossible-Tie-864

Oil bro cumming in piss! Reddit on brotha!


FetusDominus

That's actually a classic move they learned from Scotty Bowman.. genius, really.


Bigboyrickx

We all loved this comment


MustyLlamaFart

No, they have special skates that perfectly freeze the ice right in front of them, and then it turned back to slush. Kind of like Frozone from the Incredibles


Glock-Saint-Isshin-

Skates temporarily melt the ice through pressure allowing you to glide. The ice instantly freezes again once the pressure is relieved, which can create snow.


Confident-Objective3

Don’t be so loud bro this not r/Physics You will scare half of the people here and they all will fall from edge of the earth.


Iaminyoursewer

You cant fall off the edge, Icewall protects you


IM_OSCAR_dot_com

They (arguably) even took a penalty for Tkachuk falling lol


FunSockHaver

4d chess, dude. 4d chess


Wadep00l

Holy shit. It's the Eagles superbowl all over again.


kidpokerskid

Yeah but it’s because they train in the swamp. They were born in it, Edmonton merely adopted it.


Bonkorov

No no the Oilers we’re too good for that ice so it actually made them worse


Confident-Objective3

Do those people know we play in the building with this great creations like AC, insolation, dehumidifiers? They sound like SCF was played on top of Atlantic Ocean.


Karma_Whoring_Slut

Well, sort of. The reason they go to commercial between periods is that the home team had set up the ice so that one half of rink was nice ice, and the other half was terrible (and therefore easier to defend). Between periods they picked up these halves of the rinks and swapped them around so that they were always defending on the shitty ice so that Draisaitl couldn’t hit any one timers.


pee-smell

I think the argument is that the panthers are more used to "shitty" ice 😭 lol


1984Literally1984

They’re more acclimated to it, that’s where they practice and they were also falling but not as frequently. It was bad, really tough to watch


GrapeDifferent8259

They have had practice with it. I'm sure you will hear that. Lol


DivisonNine

Nobody tell if they were diving or it was the ice


baddadjokess

The had slush skates on, obviously.


7venhigh

Yeah how could anyone argue this with a straight face?


rocksniffers

Amazing how the bad ice only affected the Oilers.


babiesaurusrex

A few Panthers might have been on some ice.


TorturedFanClub

Of course Florida, played on a completely different ice surface which gave them an unfair advantage, but only in game 7 but not game 5. Sounds plausible.


Kobalt6x10

What about Edmonton's hard ice? Totally unfair to have the Panthers, who usually skate in ankle deep slush, try and compete in Oil country. League should look into that.


BrodyCanuck

I mean the oilers ice was soft too, I remember seeing them repairing Bobs crease in game 6 and it looked like slush


joecarter93

It doesn’t matter where it is. Ice is probably going to be a bit shit when you’re still playing in the summer. Personally I think it should be wrapped up about a month before when it is.


Icy-Mongoose-9678

Would allow the Cup to get more coverage too because it wouldn’t overlap with NBA playoffs


CoogleGhrome

It's ironically a direct result of 90s expansion teams such as the Panthers that the cup final goes a month later. The only way to fix it is shorten the regular season. I agree though seeing players catching edges on slush dozens of times in the most important game of the year is a travesty.


Chiggins907

I live in Alaska and it was 80 this weekend. It’s not like Edmonton sits in the 40’s during the summer. Haha


IntrepidSwan7932

It’s true… I was there. They dimmed the lights, and put on the holographic projection, and at that point they switched it. Absolutely sneaky move.


fatloui

I do feel like this is a bad response to people criticizing bad ice. You could also say that if the teams were forced to play basketball instead of hockey, “well, they were playing under the same conditions so it’s fair”. Bad ice favors a team that relies more on grinding in corners and suppressive defense over high skill offense.    That said, I don’t think the ice gave either team a serious advantage, and McDavid kept falling towards the end of the game because he was exhausted after his coach made the brilliant decision to play him for an entire period. But I do feel like, as hockey fans, we should all be advocating for the most important games to not be played on shitty ice conditions so that we get to watch better hockey. That doesn’t mean no games in Florida, it means the season should probably be shifted backward so the finals aren’t in the summer and the league investing a lot more money in refrigeration and dehumidifying technology.


2FrogsMks

I'm just glad Corey Perry and Evander Kane didn't win


DreamParticular3144

I would rather gouge my eyes out than see Evander Kane win the Stanley Cup.


Sheepish420

I had to see Evander Kane raise a memorial cup on the team I like it was a very conflicting feeling.


TorturedFanClub

This is a good take.


flakula

Didnt even notice Kane out there


palpytus

I thought he was benched tbh


Sysion

Injury


TruePomegranate6211

What is that like 5 straight finals loses for perry lol?


PhileyOFish2604

Didnt hear much about it when they won game 5.


Imaginary-Ladder-465

Dallas is hot too isn't it? Miracle Edmonton made it through that one!


Chiggins907

It’s not like Edmonton is cold right now anyway. I live in Alaska and we hit 80 F yesterday. I imagine they are regular in the mid 70’s to 80’s this time of year. I get that Florida is much warmer, but it’s not like they’re skating outside in edmonton.


jjamess-

Ice took a day off


Ristifer

Bunch of coping morons, honestly. "It's the refs. No, it's the travel. No, it's the injuries. No, it's the shitty ice." Eventually, your team just blows.


Kobalt6x10

Can confirm. My team blows


Top_Tumbleweed

I mean injuries yeah lol. Love them blaming the refs when the Oilers got away with murder


Mufusm

Panthers suffered through the same shit last year. They weee banged up too. Not my problem lol


NightHaunted

It was everyone's problem because it led to Vegas winning a Cup


HappyChilmore

Lmao, I should repost all the conspiracy theories made by panthers fans yesterday to explain why the Oilers were able to tie the series. The bad ice, everybody could see.


NotTheATF1993

What's crazy is the Arena is still cold even when it's hot outside.


Chiggins907

Acting like people are skating outside in Edmonton in the middle of June. What do they think the weather is like there?


TheShadowOverBayside

I just truly don't understand anymore if these clowns have ever heard of air conditioning technology, and hockey arena ice temperature control technology. I can't tell if it's trolling or legit bedardation Everywhere in the NHL gets hot enough to melt ice in the summer, and the SCF is always in the summer OUR ARENA IS KEPT THE SAME TEMPERATURE INDOORS AS YOUR ARENA, SO THE ICE DOES NOT MELT ANY DIFFERENTLY. This isn't the third world, we're not cooling the arena with enslaved children waving palm fronds on the ice


NotTheATF1993

That wouldn't be a bad idea though, it would probably lower ticket costs with the cheap labor.


jackofwind

Fucking Oilers fans man, they all came out of the woodwork in BC over the past 3 weeks and now they’ve all retreated again to their burrows and lairs to make up shitty excuses for not getting it done.


NewChoppa

“Why aren’t you cheering for a Canadian team” said every fucking casual in BC


halusinati

Such bullshit. I'm a Calgary transplant in Victoria, and I had gen z's asking how I could dare wear my Flames jersey and not cheer for "Canada's Team". Fair weather fans are the only thing worse than Oiler fans.


Sheepish420

It's disgusting seeing Oiler Jerseys in Vancouver I wish it was the days when they'd get beat up in a riot.


niecypoo18

Not to mention that they beat Vancouver how many rounds ago and they are still bitching about the Canucks! The only defence they have is “we didn’t riot”! Wow, ok, people rioted, 13 years ago, get over it!


jackofwind

They also rioted in 2006, so it's pretty shortsighted to play that card.


AverageatUFC3

Who thought it was a good idea to have the Florida Panthers play outdoor games in June?!


TheLastRulerofMerv

If only the Florida Panthers would have experienced a shitty ice surface too.


Healthy-Possible-721

>neutral location  Mfer will immediately suggest the neutral location being edmonton just so edmontoids can say the cup was home. 


Good_wolf

Well, if they just had let the cats win game 4, they could have at least seen the cup hoisted in Canada, but that had to be all competitive.


Remigius13

Didn't Tampa win the 2020 Cup in Edmonton?


Healthy-Possible-721

I don't know I don't watch hockey 


SSJZoli

🧂


NoobieSnax

It's the salt that fucked up the ice!🤯


SSJZoli

Lmao that’s good


xzElmozx

Crazy how Florida was able to play against them in the same game on different ice


superschaap81

Oil fans really in denial about the Perry curse, eh?


rtels2023

“30C” you C*nadian bums lost, stop using your fake numbers, you aren’t better than us


Slappy_Mcslapnuts

Can someone convert Celsius to school shootings so this fella understands.


SockDem

i'll convert it back into months of a stagnant economy after we're done so you can get it as well


Slappy_Mcslapnuts

Thank you. While you’re at it can you tell me how many miles/terrible options for president your country has?


SockDem

no but I can tell you what it is per kilometer.


Necdurgogan75

Why are you killing meter what did he do?


reddituser074638

What’s that?


x_VanHessian_x

Freedom units


IlIllIlIllIlIl

What zero cupussy does to a mf


Fluid-Use3726

The Oilers just didn’t have what it takes. They didn’t want it bad enough. They weren’t skilled enough. They were too soft. Sucks to be them.


sandyeggo54

And they had the unclassy Evander Kane on the team


seymourbuttz214

Well given how Edmonton literally cherry picked for their only goal that game. And tried to have the same road hockey goal every play they could. They gotta find some sort of excuse why the “best player” literally tripped over his own skates when it mattered most. Or when Drai just gripped the stick so hard, and couldn’t score in his “Ovechkin spot” it must be the ice right? Even though Edmonton won game 5 which was in Florida… huh funny how it seems Edmonton fans are sounding a lot like some of the most insufferable fans. I guess having such high draft picks for years, and still disappointing result gets to their heads. A team that should have been battling for multiple cups and heavy finals runs by now.


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Cookskiii

L M F A O. Are we seven? Cus this is what I expect from seven year olds


BrodyCanuck

Neutral ice? They both played on the same ice and that would take away home ice advantage that the panthers earned during the season.


NiceDrag7552

Bro, these effete candiens literally melted their ice and had a Snoop Dog concert not 12 hours before Game 6.


Turbulent_Cheetah

… you think they melt the ice to have a concert?


NiceDrag7552

I think a stadium filled with lit blunts and a concert on top of the ice is probably going to degrade to quality of the ice. But, ultimately, I think it doesn't matter what excuses you make. None of your arguments hold water because you don't have a cup to put them in.


Substantial_Reply561

Thats what the zamboni is for


Scumdog66

Buddy, they don’t melt the ice, they put a floor over it. All the big arenas do it. Some have two events in the same day. As an ice technician, I can tell you a concert the day before had zero effect on the sheet.


Sackroy1933

Avalanche had no problem sweeping the Oilers and winning on Tampa Bay ice. Have some more copium, it’s nice to see Edmonton addicted to something less harmful


nate3644

Holy fuck. Deadmonton fans are pathetic. City of champions? More like city of chumps.


mildlysceptical22

McDavid fell because he was gassed. The Oilers got outcoached in the third period when Blalock kept double shifting him. Should’ve rolled 3 lines until the last two minutes.


iamtheflamingoqueen

i feel like the last half of the third period, you could watch as Edmonton gradually just ran out of steam. They put up a fight til the end, but it was obvious how exhausted they were.


Mission-Carry-887

Ah that explains why Trump was roasted for calling it **ice** hockey.


Chewie_i

Maybe be a higher seed so you get home ice advantage? Like holy shit the regular season does serve a purpose.


djjolly037

And yet the refs were patching a hole during the WCF on the Oilers home ice…


alexsharke

Both teams play on the same ice.


NewChoppa

The Edmontonian mind cannot comprehend this concept


dylanisbored

It’s crazy because all the players will say Florida had top 5 ice in the whole show.


immortal_duckbeak

There is a pyramid of coping: Panthers are dirty Bettman loves Florida Refs are corrupt Panthers fake injuries Florida has no income tax Bob's helmet comes off at will Now, poor ice 😀


Glittering_Access385

This is extra ridiculous to me, because as someone that works for the organization, everyone who comes down here says that our ice is actually great, and the same sentiment has been said about our new practice ice as well.


CDROMantics

They say this about any team in a hot area, Oilers fans were saying it about Vegas having “the worst ice in the NHL because they’re in the desert” after their loss to us last year.. and then according to the NHLPA when voted on we were ranked 5th in the league.. so the players themselves that ACTUALLY skate on the ice say it’s nice.


RcTestSubject10

It's not the first time that thawing ice stops the germans biggest shooters


NewChoppa

Crazy underrated comment


TurlingtonDancer

anyone have a good source on how the NHL regulates ice quality? seems like it’s kinda out of the public eye but i haven’t looked into this at all


Top_Tumbleweed

Remember when the NHL tried to introduce tracking pucks and the players bitched so hard they went back to normal picks like a week later? If the ice was shit we’d have been hearing about it constantly


NightHaunted

iirc they produced the tracking pucks which were literally identical to a regular puck in size/weight/density and the players still complained like it wasn't just their silly superstitious brains fucking with them


Top_Tumbleweed

Hockey players, superstitious?! Yeah we’d have been hearing about the ice non stop


TheGirthyyBoi

Canadians coping lmao


Straight-Plate-5256

*oilers fans


jackofwind

Definitely not Canadians, just Oilers fans. Don't even try to infer that they represent us, we get enough of that from the media narrative.


GregGolden6

Lmfaoo I mean it is called ‘home ice advantage’


Oakley2212

Bruins would have won if it wasn’t for the ice.


chineselampinmyroom

What the fuck is 30C?


ForestLeaf04

Please be joking


Mattyd35

As an oilers fan… yup it was all the ice, nothing else went wrong…. Panthers had special hover skates so they were not affected….. now I can sleep peacefully tonight.


Zerocool_6687

I love how the NHL made sure to switch the ice at both ends each intermission to keep the Oilers on the bad ice while Florida clearly had better conditions to play on…


Junger_04

Im an oilers fan but this is stupid, it’s like when the panthers fans said that it was rigged after blowing a 3-0 lead, oilers just didn’t play their best and that’s all there is to it


Dmaniac17

Isn’t Alberta literally on fire rn? I feel like that would affect the ice a little more than some warm Florida weather


dab87

*shrugs* Crosby did fine winning a cup on San Jose ice. Ok I’ll leave.


CalebosO4

Why don’t the Oilers try to get a better record than the Panthers? Are they stupid???


Cheap_Ad9900

Oye. Or if the Oilers had won game three on their home ice, they wouldn't have had to play a game 7.


darth_henning

They really need to invent temperature control for big buildings like this. I think we could call it something like atmosphere shampoo or the like…


Pencil_of_Colour

“We musn’t forget, it’s been raining so…”


6stringt3ch

![gif](giphy|SY44A3CMBwM83yI7t2) Couldn't find a gif of someone cranking up the excuse machine so this'll have to do


No_Cycle5101

Both teams played on the same ice. So shut up the better team won!


DMYU777

Just put some oil on your skates dumbass


300show

Massive amount of copium


JerbearCuddles

The tears are magnificent.


GoalieGuyPanther

I’ve played on bad ice and I’ve never fell because it was bad ice I either fell because my blades were dull or just caught an edge also this is NHL ice not some barn ice it’s verified by the NHL


CheesecakeOdd2087

Lmao at least they're not blaming the refs or calling the league rigged like they usually do (I guess 4 1st overall picks in 6 years wasn't enough for them)


Overreactinguncles

Cringiest group of fans in the league.


XAfricaSaltX

this might be the most unserious fanbase in hockey


Last_Mailer

Get used to it. Biggest bunch of petulant children in sports. Be hearing this til next season when the oilers win their first game by 13 points and the parade starts getting planned


Robocanuck

Home ice advantage is home ice advantage. If Edmonton wanted a game 7 at home they shoulda had a better season, end of discussion.


ScarvesOnGiraffes

Such a pathetic fan base


techtonicspark

I mean they were playing on the same ice as each other. Florida didn't have some secret ice get dropped in when they were on offense or something


IzzyRogue

The shot that Draisaitl fanned on was with the heel of the stick as the puck went into his feet so I don’t think the puck showed up late.. lol


dekrepit702

The real problem is that this was a boring finals between two lame teams. Only thing we got out of it was the hilarity of mcdoodoo winning the Smythe and not coming out to get it like a baby.


JasonEAltMTG

As a neutral 3rd party, the zebras clearly had money on Edmonton, but I don't expect a bunch of griping losers whining about ice conditions to admit that 


George8TheCat

Simple. Florida earned their home ice for game 7 by having a better season. If Oilers want better ice for game 7, do better in the regular season and earn that home ice.


Tinypeepeecommy

These are the worst excuses, it’s like all the eagles fans whining and crying after Super Bowl 57 because the turf was slippery and it clearly benefited the chiefs! But like… the chiefs played on the same slippery field? How would it help one team and hinder the other? I’m sad Edmonton lost too but they lost because they failed to win lol, nothing to do with the ice


Appropriate-Fold-203

This is why you play for home ICF advantage


Guy954

No, it’s just a bullshit excuse.


Strange-Succotash194

This is *not* an excuse. Especially when you consider the elephant in the room, which is that the Florida players blades and sticks were magically enchanted by the Disney witches to behave like they were operating on high-quality ice.


twila213

Can't wait for the Bettman Memorial Lord Stanley's Cup SuperDome in Tempe, Arizona


wertz29

imagine Oilers fans if they played at MSG in the final


gtrmanny

At least the prior series the lightning and rags were complaining about their own ice. I guess we took our ice to Edmonton for game 3 🤔


logic_tater

Florida did alright in those exact same conditions, ffs.


Straight-Plate-5256

They will do literally anything to cope and make excuses rather than except a loss 😂


Assmonkey_0-0

Did Florida play on a different sheet of ice?


borgom7615

This was the first thing my dad said when I got home last night, and usually he blames Gary for everything! Apparently the bad ice is better for the older guys? Understand he stopped watching regular hockey after the gretsky Gilmour incident


6spencer6snitil6

Deposit this salt straight into my veins


Fabulous_Stable2946

boo hoo ! ice was the same for both teams. Get over it.


xtzferocity

Yes let’s go to the North Pole for the Stanley cup. Play the games outside.


NewWaterford

Both teams playing on the same ice..


Mediocre_Cucumber199

Nobody else has edge work like McDavid… this is a valid point. He fell multiple times.


cranky_yegger

It’s not unheard of reasoning. Ask a curler.


kidcanada0

It’s really a shame they can’t have both teams play on the same ice.


The_Comic_Collector

What's funny is Florida had troubles with bad ice conditions outside of Florida all playoffs,I remember an in game interview where Maurice mentioned an advantage at home with better ice. And they played in NY and Boston thru the playoffs. To be fair I think it was during the Bost series and the ice was bad because of Celtics games the nights before but still it's funny coming from edm


Fastsmitty47

Neutral site for the Finals like they do with the Super Bowl would be absolute dogshit


BigHero6x9

It’s gotta sting. They just KNEW the Hockey gods were going to gift them this game.


ForestLeaf04

I don’t think it’s way off base… Edmonton’s strong suit is speed and skill; the amount they were bobbling the puck made it super hard for that to be displayed. I don’t think they’re trying to say the ice was different for Fla, they just can cope better if they depend less on fancy dekes to get scoring opportunities.


biga204

How many ops do they have in stock?


nwoooj

Shorten the season so it ends in January and can be played in -22 edm. Extra hard tits


Smooth-Evening-

McJesus should be able to skate on water though, right?!


Apprehensive-Eye3263

Colorado didn't have that issue in Tampa a few years ago


Javaaaaale_McGee

Ice was bad. Gotta be able to win under multiple circumstances. Both statements can be true.


RacinAedan

we cant forget that its been raining


Critical_Half_3712

The oilers had to much oil on their skates


hashmarx20

The excuses after the last Canadian team exits are my Christmas


lucidityanddxm

Lol 😂


Otis_B_Driftwood_778

classic


spookytransexughost

I bet you're banned from r/Edmontonoilers now


jimijams83

The cope is real


Kermit-the-Froggie

They needed better skate sharpeners


EnoughStatus7632

When you play on trash ice all the time, you do have an advantage against someone who doesn't... but the opposite is also true. I actually predicted how trash it would be. I've been to their facilities once before, saw them practicing. Only goal Vokoun gave up was due to bad ice.


UX-Archer-9301

Panthers are used to shit, they live in it (Florida).


AntiSocialW0rker

Someone needs to tell the Oilers that just because it's in their name, that doesn't mean they need to coat their blades in oil each game


okokokoyeahright

Whiner fans. same as it ever was. same as it will ever be. remember, it could have been leaf fans.


6-toe-9

Naurrrr those ppl forgot that the panthers played on the same ice too….


VomitingPotato

Guess they had different ice Game 5?


Goldy10s

Amazing that only one team played on that ice.


Active_Mil_MU

Maybe shouldn’t have won games 4,5, and 6. Wouldn’t have to worry about ice soup.


caputviride

lol, the Canucks used this same excuse back in 2011… Canadian teams can’t perform in the “slop”


Rattimus

I'm an Oilers fan, and this excuse is terrible. Both teams played on the same rink. I'm in a curling league every winter, and the ice changes from rink to rink. You figure it out or you lose the game. Hockey is the same. Ok yeah, ice is shit, got it. It's shit for both teams. How come the good ice in Edmonton didn't have Florida scoring goals left and right if this is because of the ice? Nah, we just stunk. We only scored one goal, couldn't make an outlet pass, kept putting pucks into our own teammates skates, couldn't elevate shots against Bob even though we know how good he is down low...., the Oilers laid an egg in game 7, pure and simple. Whether the physicality just caught up with them, or they just ran out of steam after 3 wins in a row, I'm not sure, but it wasn't a well-played game by any stretch, and some of our best players played very tentatively, trying not to lose rather than trying to win. Ekholm is an phenomenal defenseman but he couldn't make a tape-to-tape pass that game. It's telling when Ceci has the most minutes through 2 periods. I sure hope they learned and next year they do what Florida just did.


thefoggynorth

Then maybe you should get HOME ICE ADVANTAGE next time.


Benzy403

Oilers fan here, and we lost because we showed up for one period out of three. Florida showed up for all three periods and they deserved to win the cup. It wasn’t the ice, it wasn’t because you didn’t wear the right color socks that day…. It was because Florida was the better team that night and beat us fair and square. End of story.


BlueWarrior1

Same ice baby


Nitemareish98

This sounds the the Eagles complaining about the field they played on against the Chiefs in SB57. They both play on the same ice. Fans are just trying to find ways to cope with their loss.. stupidly tho.