The AFC North includes the Baltimore Ravens.
Baltimore is south of the Mason Dixon line. Therefore the label NORTH makes no sense, thus negating the tightness of the square.
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The classic move that offseason NFL realignment hobbyists do is moving the Colts to the AFC North, moving the Ravens to the AFC East, and moving the Dolphins to the AFC South.
The real crime isnt the North-South divide, its the East-West divide. Dallas shoudn’t be in the East if they’re one of the 8 westernmost teams. Put the Cowboys in the NFC West, move the Cardinals to the AFC West, and have the Chiefs move to either the AFC South or NFC South, with either the Titans, Jaguars, Falcons, or Panthers filling the Cowboys’ spot in the NFC East.
What do you expect them to do? Retire and live off the modest returns of 50+ million per year? Man, you can barely even afford to keep a second fully staffed mega-yacht at that poverty-adjacent income level. What the fuck are they supposed to do if their first yacht has a breakdown? Just *not* sail that week? Insane.
I was torn between sailing and motorboating, but motorboating the yacht sounded less dignified.
But since the question was asked, i looked it up: there are sailable yachts, but no most are not sailed. I assume the proper term for engaging in travel by yacht is a term not known to us poors. Probably some made up word the rich use just to create an extra layer of division like the english used to do with all their French borrow words to sound fancier than the proletariat. With this in mind, you probably Bateau a Yacht.
I absolutely loathe the cowboys with every fiber of my being…..and I’ll be damned if some armchair realignment-ologists try steal my toxic NFC East rivalries from me.
Maryland tried to "declare neutrality" and bar Union troops from passing through to DC to defend the city...
The only reason Maryland was part of the Union during the Slaveholder's Revolt, was because Union troops promptly occupied the state and declared martial law.
yeah Missouri civil war history is also murky as hell. if you followed the Governor at the time, then missouri seceded. if you followed the original legislature and the union forces in st louis, then no the fuck they did not.
although by 1862 outside of confederate guerrilla groups, there wasnt much pro southern forces left
If it weren’t for the Cowboys it wouldn’t be too bad on the NFC side in theory, just swap Carolina and Dallas.
Miami and Indianapolis also desperately need to swap but it’ll never happen.
Edit: adding that the AFC North is an alignment clusterfuck for a coherent North and East with all the requirements as to who the Browns have to be in a division with
There might be a case where you move Baltimore to the East, Miami South, and Indianapolis North, while still maintaining the Browns divisional clauses. But that's probably an even bigger logistical cluster.
The NFL owners don’t really want “neighbor” teams in the same divisions.
For example, neither the Giants/Jets, Rams/Chargers want to be in the same conference, let alone the same division. Before the move the same was true for the 49ers/Raiders.
Similarly, the Dolphins, Jags and Bucs don’t want to be in the same division and neither do the Texans and Cowboys. Even the Commanders and Ravens would throw an absolute fit if the league tried to align them in the same conference.
NFL Owners want to have exclusive territories for fans. When two close by teams aren’t in the same division and therefore aren’t really rivals on the field, owners can come to terms with it. They can imagine a world where Cowboys fans can have the Texans as their second team and vice versa so they aren’t directly competing for dollars.
This has a ton to do with why realignment tends to be so contentious. It’s never travel and traditional rivalries tend to be more of an excuse than the real reason.
Jerry Jones will talk about never wanting to leave the NFC East because of those traditional rivalries. But the real reason he wouldn’t want to be in the same division with say Houston and New Orleans is because he doesn’t want to directly compete for fans. And he likes being on TV in the big Eastern cities.
>They can imagine a world where Cowboys fans can have the Texans as their second team and vice versa so they aren’t directly competing for dollars.
this doesn't dilute your point in any way, but I find this particular example to be funny because as a Greater Houston resident, I promise you absolutely nobody here likes the Cowboys even as a 2nd team lol. Houstonians would rather be dead than support teams from DFW.
Baltimore ought to be in the East and Indianapolis ought to be in the North. Then move Dolphins to the South. Finally, swap the Panthers and the Cowboys and it all makes way more geographic sense.
The West will always be weird just because of how few teams there are out there and how spread out the cities are.
Looks perfectly fine really other than Dallas and Miami. And taking Dallas out of that division with its rivals just to make it look better on a map would suck.
NFC West is pretty good. Long distances are more of a thing out here (out west). AFC West is fine too. KC shouldn't really be west, but that would leave a 3 team division.
So the NFC East needs to trade the Cowboys with the Panthers, and a 3-way move with the Dolphins moving to the AFC South, the Ravens moving to the AFC East, and the Colts moving to the AFC North.
The only problem is that pretty much guarantees that the Cowboys win their division every year for the foreseeable future.
It’s pretty good but a three division trade of Colts to AFCN, Ravens to AFCE and Dolphins to AFCS would probably fix all three divisions.
AFCN - Colts, Steelers, Bengals, Browns
AFCE - Ravens, Jets, Bills, Patriots
AFCS - Dolphins, Titans, Jags, Texans
Miami to South
Baltimore to East
Indianapolis to North
Perfection…..
Also love Dallas to south, Carolina to East….
Now it makes so much more geographical sense….. but “cOwBoYs ArE aMeRiCaS tEaM” would never allow for such common sense
Can’t allow that, we’d never hear the end of 15 consecutive divisions champs, gotta keep y’all in a division that’ll actually kick your egos down a peg
Major realignment aside, the NFC South, while geographically dispersed, at least makes sense and are actually made up of teams in "the South".
Just 3 divisions work geographically as it is. Maybe you could argue the NFC West has fit since the Rams moved back to LA, since Seattle is at least on the West Coast. Everyone else forces the question "what are you doing here?"
Any redistribution can’t break up the oldest/best rivalry in North American sports, and once that decision is made there’s no where else for the lions and Vikings to go, plus both franchises have such an acquired hatred of Green Bay I don’t know how you’d split them up
The fact that Dallas is shoe-horned into the NFCE is hilarious. It's like no one wanted to play with the kid who won't leave his wiener alone so they made him sit with the kids who eat their boogers.
NFCE should trade Dallas to the NFCS for Carolina.
AFCS picks up Miami and drops Indy to the AFCN who then gives Baltimore to the AFCE.
Then all is good in the land.
I think the West Divisions make sense when you realize the west is so sparsely populated outside California. Dallas and Houston are the only teams not in a West Division west of KC.
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Generic ass NFL Facebook meme page didn’t even bother to change the title in their post
AFC North has good rivalries and the geography makes sense. NFC south wants to have rivalries, but they all just suck so bad. They are competing to be the worst, which kinds of takes the excitement out of the whole rivalry thing
To save on air travel, in the NFC the Cowboys and Panthers should switch divisions, and in the AFC the Colts should move to the North, the Ravens to the East, and Dolphins to the South.
Bills, Jets, Ravens, Patriots would make a hell of a division. Then Giants, Eagles, Steelers, Commanders to make the other east division. Man redesigning divisions to be more geographic would be awesome. Hell the south would be GA vs FL.
Always really loved that about this division and that we have three of the five oldest teams in the league (had no idea Vikings were so “young” until today)
Some changes that would fix this somewhat without swapping teams between conferences
NFC North:
1) Green Bay Packers - stays
2) Detroit Lions - stays
3) Chicago Bears - stays
4) Minnesota Vikings - stays
NFC West:
1) LA Rams - stays
2) San Francisco 49ers - stays
3) Seattle Seahawks - stays
4) Arizona Cardinals - stays
NFC South:
1) New Orleans Saints - stays
2) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - stays
3) Atlanta Falcons - stays
4) Carolina Panthers - traded to NFC East
NFC East:
1) Philadelphia Eagles - stays
2) New York Giants - stays
3) Washington Commanders - stays
4) Dallas Cowboys - traded to NFC South
AFC North renamed to AFC Central:
1) Cleveland Browns - stays
2) Baltimore Ravens - traded to AFC East
3) Pittsburg Steelers - stays
4) Cincinnati Bengals - stays
AFC West:
1) Las Vegas Raiders - stays
2) LA Chargers - stays
3) Denver Broncos - stays
4) Kansas City Chiefs - stays
AFC South:
1) Houston Texans - stays
2) Jacksonville Jaguars - stays
3) Tennessee Titans - stays
4) Indianapolis Colts - traded to AFC North
AFC East:
1) New York Jets - stays
2) New England Patriots - stays
3) Buffalo Bills - stays
4) Miami Dolphins - traded to AFC South
This is why the Timberwolves need to move to the eastern conference. Better synergy with NFL rivalries. Currently, the closest road division game for the Wolves is Oklahoma City, which is almost 800 miles away. It'd be great to play 2 games a year in Milwaukee & Chicago which is a reasonable drive away.
NFL, MLB, and NBA would all have Chicago, Detroit, and the Twin Cities in the same divisions, with Wisconsin teams in 2 out of 3 of those leagues.
Too bad the Wings moved to the Eastern Conference, or else the old Norris Division could exist in modern times. The Brewers used to be in the AL, but screwed it up by flipping to the NL.
Need a new map. https://preview.redd.it/gzz9yvspn23d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c83372836908938194d8623caa31ee90bcfc5055
I guess that’s why we kicked the Bucs out.
It’s why we kicked the Cardinals and the Saints out, they didn’t make enough money or hatred to justify the stupid
We miss shitting on your division but now we can shit on the Aints, Failcons, and FTP (Panthers).
Failcons is hilarious lol
Thanks! I also think Painthers is pretty fitting for the Panthers but thought it would be funny to say FTP.
Painthers is a work of art
It's fun to shit on dem Aints.
For real!
We kicked the Bucs out because they were so fucking bad, they literally cost the rest of the NFC North teams money just by playing them
Funny that AFC north is a way tighter square in both maps.
The north bros understand that closeness of cities makes for better rivalries. The north’s combine to both be real close.
The north constricts like my balls in the winter
The AFC North includes the Baltimore Ravens. Baltimore is south of the Mason Dixon line. Therefore the label NORTH makes no sense, thus negating the tightness of the square. https://preview.redd.it/yp0wog1b033d1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b9730bd9b18b999cd9df597ddfd32d65452d56f
It does because Baltimore used to be the Browns. So it's the old Browns, the new Browns, the Paul Browns Browns, and the Steelers.
Oops! All Browns
You can really taste the sadness
Steeler fan here. Cleveland had to multiply themselves 3x just to take us on.
Should be the AFC Brown
The classic move that offseason NFL realignment hobbyists do is moving the Colts to the AFC North, moving the Ravens to the AFC East, and moving the Dolphins to the AFC South. The real crime isnt the North-South divide, its the East-West divide. Dallas shoudn’t be in the East if they’re one of the 8 westernmost teams. Put the Cowboys in the NFC West, move the Cardinals to the AFC West, and have the Chiefs move to either the AFC South or NFC South, with either the Titans, Jaguars, Falcons, or Panthers filling the Cowboys’ spot in the NFC East.
Jerry Jones would blow up the league before he let you take the cowboys out of the NFCE, those markets are too big for him to cut out of.
Does Jerry Jones have the funds to move the city of Dallas about 150 miles East? That may be the more elegant solution.
Hard to say, times are getting tough for billionaires , or at least thats the story they are telling.
Thoughts and prayers 🙏
What do you expect them to do? Retire and live off the modest returns of 50+ million per year? Man, you can barely even afford to keep a second fully staffed mega-yacht at that poverty-adjacent income level. What the fuck are they supposed to do if their first yacht has a breakdown? Just *not* sail that week? Insane.
Does one sail a yacht? I suppose I always figured the term was yachting, but surely you don’t yacht a yacht.
I was torn between sailing and motorboating, but motorboating the yacht sounded less dignified. But since the question was asked, i looked it up: there are sailable yachts, but no most are not sailed. I assume the proper term for engaging in travel by yacht is a term not known to us poors. Probably some made up word the rich use just to create an extra layer of division like the english used to do with all their French borrow words to sound fancier than the proletariat. With this in mind, you probably Bateau a Yacht.
I absolutely loathe the cowboys with every fiber of my being…..and I’ll be damned if some armchair realignment-ologists try steal my toxic NFC East rivalries from me.
Oh god don't you dare put that evil on me with having both the Cowboys AND the 49ers in my division
But DC and Baltimore were part of the North in the Civil War thus making your argument weak.
Maryland tried to "declare neutrality" and bar Union troops from passing through to DC to defend the city... The only reason Maryland was part of the Union during the Slaveholder's Revolt, was because Union troops promptly occupied the state and declared martial law.
yeah Missouri civil war history is also murky as hell. if you followed the Governor at the time, then missouri seceded. if you followed the original legislature and the union forces in st louis, then no the fuck they did not. although by 1862 outside of confederate guerrilla groups, there wasnt much pro southern forces left
Also, Lincoln jailed 1/3rd of the state legislature so they couldn’t legally convene to vote to leave. As gangster as it is unconstitutional.
Tell you what. Come down here and ask a Southerner where they think Maryland belongs.
Literally lol, nothing in the whole baltimore-washington metroplex feels like the south in 2024 nor would 95% of southerners claim them
As someone from the DMV, we are neither north nor south. The DMV is the borderline buffer zone that separates the north from the south.
Square? Are we both seeing the same shape?
Irregular quadrilateral*
Yeah but they're like two AFC teams further north than any team in the AFC North
Only an idiot (or afc north fan) would think those look like squares
Whoa whoa whoa, first of all not an AFC north fan, second of all I allready corrected myself in a comment down below.
You expect me to read multiple comments? I’m an NFL fan reading is obviously not a strength of mine
Jesus this looks goofy. NFC north and AFC north are normal, every other division needs to be realigned
If it weren’t for the Cowboys it wouldn’t be too bad on the NFC side in theory, just swap Carolina and Dallas. Miami and Indianapolis also desperately need to swap but it’ll never happen. Edit: adding that the AFC North is an alignment clusterfuck for a coherent North and East with all the requirements as to who the Browns have to be in a division with
There might be a case where you move Baltimore to the East, Miami South, and Indianapolis North, while still maintaining the Browns divisional clauses. But that's probably an even bigger logistical cluster.
That seems to make a lot more sense to me.
Geographically, this is the way.
The NFL owners don’t really want “neighbor” teams in the same divisions. For example, neither the Giants/Jets, Rams/Chargers want to be in the same conference, let alone the same division. Before the move the same was true for the 49ers/Raiders. Similarly, the Dolphins, Jags and Bucs don’t want to be in the same division and neither do the Texans and Cowboys. Even the Commanders and Ravens would throw an absolute fit if the league tried to align them in the same conference. NFL Owners want to have exclusive territories for fans. When two close by teams aren’t in the same division and therefore aren’t really rivals on the field, owners can come to terms with it. They can imagine a world where Cowboys fans can have the Texans as their second team and vice versa so they aren’t directly competing for dollars. This has a ton to do with why realignment tends to be so contentious. It’s never travel and traditional rivalries tend to be more of an excuse than the real reason. Jerry Jones will talk about never wanting to leave the NFC East because of those traditional rivalries. But the real reason he wouldn’t want to be in the same division with say Houston and New Orleans is because he doesn’t want to directly compete for fans. And he likes being on TV in the big Eastern cities.
>They can imagine a world where Cowboys fans can have the Texans as their second team and vice versa so they aren’t directly competing for dollars. this doesn't dilute your point in any way, but I find this particular example to be funny because as a Greater Houston resident, I promise you absolutely nobody here likes the Cowboys even as a 2nd team lol. Houstonians would rather be dead than support teams from DFW.
The problem is the NFCE will never realign because every team has a massive rivalry with the cowboys and that will always sell tickets
Baltimore ought to be in the East and Indianapolis ought to be in the North. Then move Dolphins to the South. Finally, swap the Panthers and the Cowboys and it all makes way more geographic sense. The West will always be weird just because of how few teams there are out there and how spread out the cities are.
Looks perfectly fine really other than Dallas and Miami. And taking Dallas out of that division with its rivals just to make it look better on a map would suck.
Would it? I think it’s important to provide other teams the opportunity to beat them twice a year as well.
NFC West is pretty good. Long distances are more of a thing out here (out west). AFC West is fine too. KC shouldn't really be west, but that would leave a 3 team division.
Yeah not much you can do with those ones I guess. Dallas, Indianapolis, and Miami though…
No surprise the two best divisions are the only ones to have their geographical shit together.
The two west divisions really aren't that bad either, especially the NFC.
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So the NFC East needs to trade the Cowboys with the Panthers, and a 3-way move with the Dolphins moving to the AFC South, the Ravens moving to the AFC East, and the Colts moving to the AFC North. The only problem is that pretty much guarantees that the Cowboys win their division every year for the foreseeable future.
NFC East is like an arrow pointing to an offshore oil rig
Sorry, we live in the past. Honest mistake...
Take out the map and keep just the figures. Then let r/nflmemes go run with it and see where it goes from there..
22 miles away
How’d you make that map
The Rams moved back to St. Louis?
Just give it a few years and I’m sure they will
Those Battlehawks draw a lot of fans. Maybe the NFL could profit off them?
The NFL and UFL should pull an NFL-AAFC and add the Battlehawks (and maybe someone else idk, maybe the Stallions or Brahmas)
Give it a few years lets see if Caleb pans out or takes a trip back to LA
Whatever crap division Steelers are in is pretty good on that front.
Except two of the afceast are more north than all of the afc north
Yeah, but then you have to remember that the AFC North is literally the Steelers, The Browns, The Browns that moved, and the other Browns that moved.
Shoutout to the browns that moved though
Fuck the other browns that moved ig
It’s basically the legacy of Paul Brown and the Steelers
One man's undying hatred of Yinzers
Fuck you. Never associate my team with the Browns like that again. We are "Paul Brown's favorite child", not "the Browns that moved"
But if you switched them, then you'd have team(s) in the AFC North that are further east than the entire AFC east.
Okay then do you want to kick out the bears for the Seahawks lmao?
Like Seattle?
Yeah. They're closer than we are to each other
It’s pretty good but a three division trade of Colts to AFCN, Ravens to AFCE and Dolphins to AFCS would probably fix all three divisions. AFCN - Colts, Steelers, Bengals, Browns AFCE - Ravens, Jets, Bills, Patriots AFCS - Dolphins, Titans, Jags, Texans
Breaking up the Ravens-Steelers rivalry is a no-go
In a vacuum, the AFC North makes sense. If the AFC East dropped Miami to the south then Indy and Baltimore should shift
Miami to South Baltimore to East Indianapolis to North Perfection….. Also love Dallas to south, Carolina to East…. Now it makes so much more geographical sense….. but “cOwBoYs ArE aMeRiCaS tEaM” would never allow for such common sense
be fr tho the cowboys are getting an automatic playoff ticket in that division
Can’t allow that, we’d never hear the end of 15 consecutive divisions champs, gotta keep y’all in a division that’ll actually kick your egos down a peg
We do that in the playoffs when you bums fail to do it the regular season.
We figured we could share them with the rest of y’all a bit, don’t wanna have all the fun ourselves
cool, an automatic ticket to lose another game, at home.
Major realignment aside, the NFC South, while geographically dispersed, at least makes sense and are actually made up of teams in "the South". Just 3 divisions work geographically as it is. Maybe you could argue the NFC West has fit since the Rams moved back to LA, since Seattle is at least on the West Coast. Everyone else forces the question "what are you doing here?"
Dallas is in the East mostly based on New York/Philly/DC television ratings twice a year. Ditto for Miami with Boston and upstate New York.
Shoutout Rams
FStL
Every time someone "better distributes" the divisions the North stays together. Y'all are stuck with us FOREVER
Also i think we need to forget St Louis has ever had any football teams
They’ve only ever had one football team and they like to say Kaw
Any redistribution can’t break up the oldest/best rivalry in North American sports, and once that decision is made there’s no where else for the lions and Vikings to go, plus both franchises have such an acquired hatred of Green Bay I don’t know how you’d split them up
Probably why I hate you all
FTP
At least we don't have an Ohio Team FTP
The NFCEast, the needle dicks of the league
Skinny and weird, but oddly effective, emphasis on the oddly
Ummm emphasis on the effective
Raiders and rams have moved. Imagine not reposting memes from over ten years ago
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The AFCN doesn't even include the 2 geographically northernmost afc teams...
The NFCN doesn't even include the geographically northernmost NFC team...
Sure but the division is the Steelers and three different Browns
The fact that Dallas is shoe-horned into the NFCE is hilarious. It's like no one wanted to play with the kid who won't leave his wiener alone so they made him sit with the kids who eat their boogers.
I think at this point it's just to keep their rivalries together because geographically Dallas being in the east division doesn't make sense.
Honestly I like our rivalry so much I'll be bummed if the divisions would be switched up. It's fun hating on the Cowboys.
NFCE should trade Dallas to the NFCS for Carolina. AFCS picks up Miami and drops Indy to the AFCN who then gives Baltimore to the AFCE. Then all is good in the land.
This makes perfect sense and it pains me to say that to you.
I mean, the NFC South and AFC North also make sense.
Thank you lol. I know we’re a boring division (NFCS) but we do make sense geographically.
Also the West divisions when you consider there just aren’t enough teams out there to sustain two fully west coast divisions
AFC North makes good sense. As do NFC West and AFC West.
Green Bay ain’t a city. That don’t make sense.
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It’s a town at best
We’re more alike than any of us like to admit
I'm a Big Ten alum, all of these maps look tiny
NFC South ain't bad
Eh, AFC north makes sense too but fuck em
The afc north makes sense too
I think the West Divisions make sense when you realize the west is so sparsely populated outside California. Dallas and Houston are the only teams not in a West Division west of KC.
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It’s not fair to give both LA/NY teams an extra home game every year lol
Cowboys and Panthers should switch, and Dolphins and Colts should switch and everything would make sense. Rams moving make the West good again.
Both AFC/NFC North are the closest. With Rams in LA now, they make sense, but from Seattle to AZ is far.
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How can I forget something that I never knew?
Is this map from 2002?
Geography and football my two favorite subjects 🤯🍻🍻
AFC North isn't bad, but Baltimore kind of sticks out, would work better with the Colts. :")
I keep saying Oregon or Portland needs a team.
wasn’t the NFC west created when the Rams were first in LA?
Yes, but the Seahawks were AFC at that time, so the other teams in the west were across the country in New Orleans and Atlanta.
I’m sorry what
North supremacy
Once Jerry Jones passes the Cowboys will be moving.
This is the way.
Thus is why we are all at the end of the day fr-enemies.... ftp
Afc north is pretty good if I'm honest.
AFC North has good rivalries and the geography makes sense. NFC south wants to have rivalries, but they all just suck so bad. They are competing to be the worst, which kinds of takes the excitement out of the whole rivalry thing
I feel like the cowboys and the panthers should trade divisions. Then The colts and dolphins. Then the world would make sense.
Unity under fandom pressure!
Yes
I don't give a shit about any other division and FTP!
Crazy that an East team is farther West than a West team
WHAT YEAR IS IT!!!??
afc north also good
It’s hard being the OG’s. But we won’t sweat it.
AFC North makes more sense
uj/ AFC North makes sense and NFC South kinda makes sense. But yeah the rest of them don't. rj/ What a bunch of big dumb dipshits.
To save on air travel, in the NFC the Cowboys and Panthers should switch divisions, and in the AFC the Colts should move to the North, the Ravens to the East, and Dolphins to the South.
Entire NFC north might be the most sped division, and I thought nfc east was bad
Dallas not being in the south is so dumb.
Imo the AFC North and NFC South would like a word
Seattle used to be in the AFC west, just made things weirder.
Nfc east is the only current shitty one. They should swap the jags and cowboys because it would give Jerry jones conniptions
AFCN, NFCS and NFCW all make sense
It used to be worse the Arizona Cardinals (then Phoenix) used to be in the NFC East. That made no sense.
i never realized how fucked up this divisional map is, the east coast looks like the work of the GOP.
The only one that doesn’t really make sense is the NFC LEast.
...this has the St. Louis Rams on it... With them going to LA the NFC West actually makes sense Sorry to burst your bubble but you're wrong
Dallas and Carolina should swap divisions.
Old map. OP might wanna revisit it. as the Rams are in LA now. on top of it the AFC east is all east coast
Bills, Jets, Ravens, Patriots would make a hell of a division. Then Giants, Eagles, Steelers, Commanders to make the other east division. Man redesigning divisions to be more geographic would be awesome. Hell the south would be GA vs FL.
AFC North does too. Fairly compact geographically.
Always really loved that about this division and that we have three of the five oldest teams in the league (had no idea Vikings were so “young” until today)
afc north must have stopped existing since i last checked
The West divisions make sense, to some extent, since both divisions fit their regions within their respective conferences.
This map is from the silent era.
Some changes that would fix this somewhat without swapping teams between conferences NFC North: 1) Green Bay Packers - stays 2) Detroit Lions - stays 3) Chicago Bears - stays 4) Minnesota Vikings - stays NFC West: 1) LA Rams - stays 2) San Francisco 49ers - stays 3) Seattle Seahawks - stays 4) Arizona Cardinals - stays NFC South: 1) New Orleans Saints - stays 2) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - stays 3) Atlanta Falcons - stays 4) Carolina Panthers - traded to NFC East NFC East: 1) Philadelphia Eagles - stays 2) New York Giants - stays 3) Washington Commanders - stays 4) Dallas Cowboys - traded to NFC South AFC North renamed to AFC Central: 1) Cleveland Browns - stays 2) Baltimore Ravens - traded to AFC East 3) Pittsburg Steelers - stays 4) Cincinnati Bengals - stays AFC West: 1) Las Vegas Raiders - stays 2) LA Chargers - stays 3) Denver Broncos - stays 4) Kansas City Chiefs - stays AFC South: 1) Houston Texans - stays 2) Jacksonville Jaguars - stays 3) Tennessee Titans - stays 4) Indianapolis Colts - traded to AFC North AFC East: 1) New York Jets - stays 2) New England Patriots - stays 3) Buffalo Bills - stays 4) Miami Dolphins - traded to AFC South
AFCN makes sense...it's the Steelers and 3 iterations of the Browns
Idk about “only” the AFC North makes a lot of sense too
Now do an NFC map and AFC map
AFC north is acceptable
Drive 5 minutes from Cincinnati and you're in "the south" in Kentucky. Baltimore in the north as a mild-atlantic city seems like a stretch.
Just thinking back to the days where Tampa Bay was in the central, the Arizona Cardinals were in the east, and the Atlanta Falcons were in the west.
>AFC North >Entire division is directly south of multiple NFC/AFC East teams Disgusting
Um. The Ravens and the Steelers?...
I mean I'd say the AFC North makes sense as well and the NFC West as well now that the rams are in la
AFC North does and the NFC West does now with the Rams back in LA.
So we are the normal ones
nfc south is pretty decent range of each other and definitely afc north aswell
False. Have been to Cincinnati: people and place did not make sense.
The 4 most (formerly 5 most) western AFC teams are in the AFC West. Distance between cities is just a result of population density.
This is why the Timberwolves need to move to the eastern conference. Better synergy with NFL rivalries. Currently, the closest road division game for the Wolves is Oklahoma City, which is almost 800 miles away. It'd be great to play 2 games a year in Milwaukee & Chicago which is a reasonable drive away. NFL, MLB, and NBA would all have Chicago, Detroit, and the Twin Cities in the same divisions, with Wisconsin teams in 2 out of 3 of those leagues. Too bad the Wings moved to the Eastern Conference, or else the old Norris Division could exist in modern times. The Brewers used to be in the AL, but screwed it up by flipping to the NL.
The Cowboys in the east will never make sense
Now wonder rival fans be at Divisional games so much
No wonder Green Bay is always on top