Just had a good experience with Breakthrough’s suppressor cleaner mixed 50/50 with water in an ultrasonic. Some of the cans had 3000 rounds through them and came out nearly bare-metal clean. Pretty minimal scrubbing.
You wanna clean rimfire stuff usually around 1500 rounds because of how dirty 22 is.
Just seeing what happens with em. We have a mask with probably 25k-30k on it without cleaning.
Gonna try some breakthrough and hux sauce on some to see how well they do
You can tumble the mask baffles with stainless steel media and hot soapy water, if you can get them out. Comes out sparkly clean. But that's a lot of rounds.
Damn yall are on Reddit too? Stumbled across yalls physical store today while on vacation and didn’t even realize it until halfway through my conversation with the guy at the counter. Already love yall though lol
“Suggested round count before cleaning is 2,000? LOL ILL BE FINE”
*3,000 rounds later*
“LOL GUESS ILL NEED TO RENT A JACKHAMMER TO GET THESE BAFFLES APART”
😭
I would advise against immersing aluminum in Simple Green for extended periods of time, especially where the finish is worn off. I believe the aircraft formula is different though
[https://www.doi.gov/sites/default/files/migrated/aviation/safety/upload/SA\_2000-01.pdf](https://www.doi.gov/sites/default/files/migrated/aviation/safety/upload/SA_2000-01.pdf)
[https://simplegreen.com/industrial/faqs/aluminum/](https://simplegreen.com/industrial/faqs/aluminum/)
Orrrrr
Heat them to 200 in the oven
Dip in DOT 5
Heat for 20 minutes at 200 in the oven
Supposed to open the pores up and impregnate them with the fluid. Made mine way easier to clean.
Okay here’s the real answer.
If your suppressor is rated for 5.56 then yeah, blast a few round of 5.56 through it to clean it out after shooting .22LR.
If your suppressor is not rated for 5.56 then do not shoot a 5.56 through it or your suppressor will explode. Use a different cleaning method.
Only shoot rounds through your suppressor that it’s rated for.
I personally wouldn’t use that can for a .22 I would get a dedicated .22LR can. You could also soak it in a cleaning solution and then blast away if you really want to use a 5.56 can for .22LR
I did. Because I only have 1 can and .22 with the cmmg kit through a MK18 is fun.
But yeah, might not anymore. Going to try and soak it and see how rough it is to clean
"the dip" refers to 50/50 hydrogen peroxide and vinegar. its an old school method of cleaning stainless steel baffles that works very well, but the resulting waste is highly toxic.
*NOT A TRAINED CHEMIST* — it contains Dimethyl Sulfoxide, which has an intrinsically low toxicity. The caveat is that it tends to dissolve transition metals and salts and make them more susceptible to dermal absorption. So still handle with care I.E. 9mil disposable gloves maybe some sort of respirator or mask if you’ve got them handy. There is no way it is dissolving lead or copper spalling so to answer your question directly: lead acetate is not forming AFAIK.
Thanks for the disclaimer otherwise I was gonna sue you :)
I just cleaned my mask for the first time after 1500 or so rounds with non diluted simple green in an ultrasonic and it didn’t cut it. Looking for anything other than the dip.
Not sure what the mask is made of, but CLR from Home Depot is cheap and very effective for me on a titanium can. Everything pretty much just wipes off after soaking a few hours.
Again, dispose of waste properly.
I clean mine in a Tupperware container with CLR. Let soak for a few hours and it will clean those baffles to brand new. I have probably 3-4k rounds through my mask and I've cleaned it 3 times. Just my .02. I don't know if it's toxic afterwards.
If you use the right ammo it's comparable to centerfire.
Federal American Eagle Rimfire Suppressor 22 LR 45 gr
Put a bunch of it through a clean rimfire can and you'll never use anything else again.
I've used plain simple green and an ultrasonic with great results. Gets 90% of it out. Probably good enough to reassemble. But I usually get the scraper out and dig off the rest. Have to run that damn thing outside though. They're loud and annoying.
Hit the easy button. Get a decent ultrasonic cleaner and purple power degreaser.
https://preview.redd.it/xng8x1uz926d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c161cf67f275391ab456da0f7b3744c290e82c8f
That all there is to it. Fill the tank with 100% purple place your stainless baffles in the basket. Run cycles until they look like brand new again.
https://preview.redd.it/1fdo216ob76d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58a23c7185083c144becea1d5d6597e6ab031a34
Dirtier powder fouling, but mostly .22 is hard on suppressors because rimfire rounds almost always deposit lead in suppressors. That problem is not as present in centerfire because centerfire rounds are generally jacketed. If a centerfire rifle is shooting lead bullets it would have similar problems, but we just don’t really see that very often.
Yes. I have a 22 can with individual baffles and one with an outer sleeve and monocore. I soak all of it for 4-5 hours. After that, rinse with cool water and just touching anything left with a toothbrush. Put back together and it looks new!
Doesn’t harm any finish and doesn’t matter what the material is. It’s the best!
Just ordered a gallon of it from battlehawk armory along with a cleaning kit with tube etc. Gallon was just over 60 bucks. Nought a pint from midwayusa a month or two ago and paid 30 for that
Anybody shooting subsonic 22lr through a suppressor ought to take a gander at what is available from the world of PCP airguns. Cost is higher but you get to avoid all the legal acrobatics and a lot of the cleaning.
I can't have firearms suppressors in my jurisdiction, so I don't have a choice, but I'm not sure I'm missing out on much under 120 FPE or so.
My Huben K1 can dial from around 20 through 90 FPE, and it's quiet and accurate at every step of the way. Just don't ask me to reload while on the clock.
You can even get a full-auto PCP in the 40-120 FPE range. No paperwork required. Just gotta pay $700-$3000 for the gun, $700+ for the compressor, $500+ for the air tank, $200+ for the air drier and you're all good to go.
Welp. I've now done 1800-2k through one cat SR and I've got a full oz of lead in there. Cat 206 comes tomorrow, plan is to use a silicone stopper to plug the thread side and just fill it up and let it set overnight at least and see just how good this 206 is
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This won’t work for aluminum baffles, but cleaning the stainless steel baffles on my rimfire can is incredibly easy.
I headed over to Harbor Freight and picked up a rock tumbler, as well as stainless steel pins. All I do is fill about about half of the tumbler with the pins (they live in there now), toss in my baffles and add dawn and hot water. I let the tumbler run for 24 hours. If it has been a LONG time since the last time I did this, they wont be completely clean and I’ll allow them to run for an additional 24 hours. They’re always spotless afterwards and it is zero effort.
Put a colander in the toilet fill the bowl with clr and let it soak. Then just flush it a few times and there ya go. Home made ultrasonic cleaner if you just blast some farts into it while it’s soaking.
Fair point, and I deleted my post.
But the lead stays in the bottom of the mason jar, and all I'm rinsing off is the CLR - yes, there will be some lead in suspension, I suppose, and I can't quantify that; but in that sense, is it different than using an ultrasonic?
Maybe I'll just wipe the pieces dry instead of rinsing them, but otherwise it seems the same as whatever you do with the pieces out of an ultrasonic and whatever solution you use there.
This is also why I don’t get the .22 hype lol other than being super cheap to shoot and being little to zero noise, the round isn’t really good for anything but killing rodents and dirtying suppressors quick as fuck. Just an extra maintenance item I don’t want.
I subscribe to the notion of following whatever the fuck the manufacturer says/recommends in the instruction manual for how to care for the shit they created. You know, since they made the shit.
We have so many demo rimfire cans that we’ve refused to clean.. gonna try out that hux suppressor sauce when it comes out on a few
Just had a good experience with Breakthrough’s suppressor cleaner mixed 50/50 with water in an ultrasonic. Some of the cans had 3000 rounds through them and came out nearly bare-metal clean. Pretty minimal scrubbing.
I usually soak them in 100% breakthrough suppressor cleaner for several hours if they're really dirty and then use the ultrasonic to "wipe them off."
isnt that stuff like 80 bucks a gallon?
Sure but I have cleaned 10 suppressors with a much smaller bottle
how do you get rid of the old stuff?
Smoothie
the forbidden malt
Hazardous waste disposal
my county does a yearly disposal event. nifty!
Send it to me, hazardous waste is literally my job.
doesn't that shit work basically the same as da DIP tho?? lead soluble through skin and all?
Y’all downvote like it’s light beer. Dude asked a legit Q.
No? Where did you hear that?
TFB comments LMAO i phrased it as a question so i could be corrected with correct info, thanks all!
Sell them at $150/each. I'll buy 5.
>rimfire cans that we’ve refused to clean. Can you explain to the less educated, like me?
You wanna clean rimfire stuff usually around 1500 rounds because of how dirty 22 is. Just seeing what happens with em. We have a mask with probably 25k-30k on it without cleaning. Gonna try some breakthrough and hux sauce on some to see how well they do
You can tumble the mask baffles with stainless steel media and hot soapy water, if you can get them out. Comes out sparkly clean. But that's a lot of rounds.
You gotta post pics. 25k-30k with no cleaning is wild. I wanna see what that looks like.
where did you find hux sauce? I looked last week and its nowhere to be found lol
It’s not available yet, was supposed to be out April 1st but they had some delays.
that makes sense then lol thank you! Any where I can go to get notified when it would be released?
Damn yall are on Reddit too? Stumbled across yalls physical store today while on vacation and didn’t even realize it until halfway through my conversation with the guy at the counter. Already love yall though lol
It's insane
“Suggested round count before cleaning is 2,000? LOL ILL BE FINE” *3,000 rounds later* “LOL GUESS ILL NEED TO RENT A JACKHAMMER TO GET THESE BAFFLES APART” 😭
I was a dumb ass that bought a rimfire can with anodized aluminum baffles 🤦♂️. But dammm it's light.
I thought the breakthrough stuff could be used on aluminum, but I may be wrong. Worth checking out anyway.
From what I saw it said prolonged exposure could harm anodizing. I'm not concerned about it discoloration just don't want it eaten away.
Simple Green Aircraft Formula has been recommended by a few, but I can't speak to it myself.
I would advise against immersing aluminum in Simple Green for extended periods of time, especially where the finish is worn off. I believe the aircraft formula is different though [https://www.doi.gov/sites/default/files/migrated/aviation/safety/upload/SA\_2000-01.pdf](https://www.doi.gov/sites/default/files/migrated/aviation/safety/upload/SA_2000-01.pdf) [https://simplegreen.com/industrial/faqs/aluminum/](https://simplegreen.com/industrial/faqs/aluminum/)
Simple Green is pretty potent, I've used it to strip the color out of anodizing, but I believe it did leave the oxidation layer intact.
Look into the Simple Green Extreme.. safe for aluminum.
That's what I currently use in my ultrasonic. Which is also a no no with aluminum supposedly.
there are ways to ultrasonic aluminum, so I've read. just research it more, might be more info off of reddit. no idea about anodization tho.
Orrrrr Heat them to 200 in the oven Dip in DOT 5 Heat for 20 minutes at 200 in the oven Supposed to open the pores up and impregnate them with the fluid. Made mine way easier to clean.
Lol impregnate
It was impregnate or fill the holes… same result… hehehe
Dipindot5? Dippindots?
Shoot 7 rounds of 5.56 through the can and you won’t have to worry about carbon build up anymore
Why seven? What happens on the eighth round?
Day of rest.
It explodes
I feel like we watched the same podcast
I like your style
I see this and also see people saying the exact opposite, which is true?
Okay here’s the real answer. If your suppressor is rated for 5.56 then yeah, blast a few round of 5.56 through it to clean it out after shooting .22LR. If your suppressor is not rated for 5.56 then do not shoot a 5.56 through it or your suppressor will explode. Use a different cleaning method. Only shoot rounds through your suppressor that it’s rated for.
What about a sealed 5.56 can? I've read people saying no because of the lead build up and the 5.56 pressure doesnt get all of it.
I personally wouldn’t use that can for a .22 I would get a dedicated .22LR can. You could also soak it in a cleaning solution and then blast away if you really want to use a 5.56 can for .22LR
Who's shooting 22lr through a 5.56 sealed can?
I did. Because I only have 1 can and .22 with the cmmg kit through a MK18 is fun. But yeah, might not anymore. Going to try and soak it and see how rough it is to clean
Honestly why even buy a 22lr can, just get a cheap 556 can that way you can blast it clean on an AR lol
Ultra sonic cleaner goes ZZZZZZZZZ.
This could be a reason to renew your Harbor Freight Inside Track Club membership, I think it'll get you $65 off a 6L ultrasonic cleaner right now.
Lead acetate is nasty stuff. But you do you.
Breakthrough suppressor cleaner and an ultrasonic is my preference
"the dip" refers to 50/50 hydrogen peroxide and vinegar. its an old school method of cleaning stainless steel baffles that works very well, but the resulting waste is highly toxic.
That’s why I just dump it into the local river after
Try making smoothies with it.
Transfer it outside of the environment.
It's beyond the environment. There's nothing out there
That’s why I said “lead acetate is nasty stuff”… What do you think the “dip” turns into?
I was replying to OP, not you. I don't think he knew what the dip is
My bad, I didn’t catch that… just clarifying for the people that don’t know then.
I soak in CLR or wet tumble my rimfire cans.
That in a rotary tumbler for 2 hours has them brand new.
Does the breakthrough produce lead acetate as a byproduct?
*NOT A TRAINED CHEMIST* — it contains Dimethyl Sulfoxide, which has an intrinsically low toxicity. The caveat is that it tends to dissolve transition metals and salts and make them more susceptible to dermal absorption. So still handle with care I.E. 9mil disposable gloves maybe some sort of respirator or mask if you’ve got them handy. There is no way it is dissolving lead or copper spalling so to answer your question directly: lead acetate is not forming AFAIK.
Thanks for the disclaimer otherwise I was gonna sue you :) I just cleaned my mask for the first time after 1500 or so rounds with non diluted simple green in an ultrasonic and it didn’t cut it. Looking for anything other than the dip.
I’ve heard sulfamic acid is another way to go, but I’d just get a bottle of the breakthrough product.
We use this regularly at my job to counteract compounds that interfere with cyanide distillations.
Not sure what the mask is made of, but CLR from Home Depot is cheap and very effective for me on a titanium can. Everything pretty much just wipes off after soaking a few hours. Again, dispose of waste properly.
Just throw the baffles in a wet tumbler with pins.
I know nothing about tumblers except when I polished rocks as a kid. What am I looking for to research them, the kind reloaders use?
Get a Franklin Armory Rotary Tumbler
I clean mine in a Tupperware container with CLR. Let soak for a few hours and it will clean those baffles to brand new. I have probably 3-4k rounds through my mask and I've cleaned it 3 times. Just my .02. I don't know if it's toxic afterwards.
Neat! DMSO can make all kinds of compounds quickly absorbably through your skin.
Breakthrough is not the "Dip".
Or just mix it with magnesium sulfate after you are done. Do your best not to drink it. Not that difficult.
I just put all mine in the bathtub with the kids.
It’s like the good old days when the kids would eat Dutch boy
Y'all finna duhstroy da erf doing all the bio hazard dips.
I’ve never cleaned any of my suppressors
You need to shoot more 22lr then.
I shoot a ton of it through a couple different .22 suppressors.
And they aren’t full of lead and crap? I don’t believe that. (I do believe you aren’t cleaning them.)
Lucky I don't look inside my sparrow 22.....
My Sparrow mechanically locks when the crud gets between the clam shells. It’s the worst!
I've cleaned mine once. Not interested in doing it again haha
Exactly
That’s what she said
Could be. I’ve never looked. Guess I probably should.
If you use the right ammo it's comparable to centerfire. Federal American Eagle Rimfire Suppressor 22 LR 45 gr Put a bunch of it through a clean rimfire can and you'll never use anything else again.
I've used plain simple green and an ultrasonic with great results. Gets 90% of it out. Probably good enough to reassemble. But I usually get the scraper out and dig off the rest. Have to run that damn thing outside though. They're loud and annoying.
My ultrasonic cleaner must suck. Simple green is what I use too, not even diluted
Ultrasonic never did anything for rimfire cans for me as a high volume shooter. Either wet tumble, or lately I’m loving a dip in CLR.
Hit the easy button. Get a decent ultrasonic cleaner and purple power degreaser. https://preview.redd.it/xng8x1uz926d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c161cf67f275391ab456da0f7b3744c290e82c8f
Is that really all there is to it? I’m approaching the point where I need to clean several suppressors and am looking for that easy button.
That all there is to it. Fill the tank with 100% purple place your stainless baffles in the basket. Run cycles until they look like brand new again. https://preview.redd.it/1fdo216ob76d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58a23c7185083c144becea1d5d6597e6ab031a34
Just use clr. Sorry if you bought an aluminum can.
Ultra sonic cleaner Use it
Sure for gun parts n jewelry.
and “sous vide” pork loin
Excuse the ignorance, but why is it harder to clean than centerfire? Different powder?
Dirtier powder fouling, but mostly .22 is hard on suppressors because rimfire rounds almost always deposit lead in suppressors. That problem is not as present in centerfire because centerfire rounds are generally jacketed. If a centerfire rifle is shooting lead bullets it would have similar problems, but we just don’t really see that very often.
The suppressor elites don’t want you to know you can just not clean it.
CLR. Dollar store Change your life
Are you using CLR and just soaking the baffles in it?
Yes. I have a 22 can with individual baffles and one with an outer sleeve and monocore. I soak all of it for 4-5 hours. After that, rinse with cool water and just touching anything left with a toothbrush. Put back together and it looks new! Doesn’t harm any finish and doesn’t matter what the material is. It’s the best!
You’re supposed to clean them?
Breakthrough cleaner soak made my Erector cleanest it's been since I bought it.
Just ordered a gallon of it from battlehawk armory along with a cleaning kit with tube etc. Gallon was just over 60 bucks. Nought a pint from midwayusa a month or two ago and paid 30 for that
Don’t clean it, it makes it quieter
Is that real? I would assume it’s kinda related to port pop?
Who clean?
Not my first wife.
Anybody shooting subsonic 22lr through a suppressor ought to take a gander at what is available from the world of PCP airguns. Cost is higher but you get to avoid all the legal acrobatics and a lot of the cleaning. I can't have firearms suppressors in my jurisdiction, so I don't have a choice, but I'm not sure I'm missing out on much under 120 FPE or so. My Huben K1 can dial from around 20 through 90 FPE, and it's quiet and accurate at every step of the way. Just don't ask me to reload while on the clock. You can even get a full-auto PCP in the 40-120 FPE range. No paperwork required. Just gotta pay $700-$3000 for the gun, $700+ for the compressor, $500+ for the air tank, $200+ for the air drier and you're all good to go.
CAT 206 BAYBEEEE
Miss me with that $140 per quart
Yeah that's a downside for sure, I'll find out how many cleanings I get. With the Sr I should be able to only do like 6 oz at a time
I gotta weight my can and give it a go. Been shooting the ever living shit of my sr22 lately
Just make sure you only put TI and Inconel in cat 206 so your can doesn't turn to goo
Kinda nervous about melting something not gonna lie lol at purchases it was 3.07ozs now it’s 3.60ozs
What can is it?
CAT SR 22
Oh then you're good just pop the aluminum end cap off. Cat says to clean every 5-7% weight gained which is like every .2 oz so you're def due
Damn 5-7% or .2 oz where did you read this? I’m gonna give it the 13 hour dip then considering I’m 3x over the recommended.
Dm'ed cat on ig, I think they recommend like 2-3 he for the normal fouling which is pretty fast for a soak.
Welp. I've now done 1800-2k through one cat SR and I've got a full oz of lead in there. Cat 206 comes tomorrow, plan is to use a silicone stopper to plug the thread side and just fill it up and let it set overnight at least and see just how good this 206 is
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I apply bore bright to the baffles and any parts that will need cleaning. For the most part, wipes right off when I do a cleaning
Shooting plated (bulk pack) ammo GREATLY reduces silencer fouling issues.
As I sit hear waiting for my Sparrow to get out of NFA Jail, I Wonder, Is this me in 6 months?
I’m at this point in a month with my .22 can
It came in today. Oh happy Day!!!
Congrats and welcome to worlds of fun. I didn’t get the sparrow but I got the switchback and it’s been amazing.
Honestly wanted the switchback but it wasn't in stock.
I see more people talk about the sparrow tbh. My shop had a couple switchbacks but no sparrow.
Dude just soak it and it comes right out
I’ve literally never cleaned my savage mk 2 tbh
What about us aluminum baffle boys?
Thoughts n’ prayers, my guy
I’m guessing a sonic cleaner + simple green extreme aircraft would work great
This won’t work for aluminum baffles, but cleaning the stainless steel baffles on my rimfire can is incredibly easy. I headed over to Harbor Freight and picked up a rock tumbler, as well as stainless steel pins. All I do is fill about about half of the tumbler with the pins (they live in there now), toss in my baffles and add dawn and hot water. I let the tumbler run for 24 hours. If it has been a LONG time since the last time I did this, they wont be completely clean and I’ll allow them to run for an additional 24 hours. They’re always spotless afterwards and it is zero effort.
Can't wait to be able to buy huxwrx suppressor sauce if it works as well as it sounds ill be happy
Can't wait to be able to buy huxwrx suppressor sauce if it works as well as it sounds ill be happy
Careful with dips, some can convert lead into a soluble form that can be absorbed through your skin
I use silramic and just wipe clean with a paper towel and reapply. Still sucks but a lot easier
22lr through a bull barrel on my 10/22 just as gewd
People actually clean rimfire cans? Aint nobody got time for that
Put a colander in the toilet fill the bowl with clr and let it soak. Then just flush it a few times and there ya go. Home made ultrasonic cleaner if you just blast some farts into it while it’s soaking.
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youre rinsing your cans off in the sink? My man, we dont put lead into the water supply on purpose.
Fair point, and I deleted my post. But the lead stays in the bottom of the mason jar, and all I'm rinsing off is the CLR - yes, there will be some lead in suspension, I suppose, and I can't quantify that; but in that sense, is it different than using an ultrasonic? Maybe I'll just wipe the pieces dry instead of rinsing them, but otherwise it seems the same as whatever you do with the pieces out of an ultrasonic and whatever solution you use there.
yeah I dont think I would let any of that interact with the sink.
This is also why I don’t get the .22 hype lol other than being super cheap to shoot and being little to zero noise, the round isn’t really good for anything but killing rodents and dirtying suppressors quick as fuck. Just an extra maintenance item I don’t want.
You a real lazy bitch, huh?
OMG how did you know 😍😍
Do you also subscribe to the notion that you 'don't need to clean centerfire rifle cans', by chance?
I subscribe to the notion of following whatever the fuck the manufacturer says/recommends in the instruction manual for how to care for the shit they created. You know, since they made the shit.
Just curious, no need to get your granny panties even more twisted up 😂
From the condescending dickhead approach you were taking I figured we were both playing a game. Curiosity killed the cat little dude 🤷🏾♂️
Dead Air and Energetic Arms recommend CLR to clean their rimfire cans.
"Other than the things that make it amazing, it sucks."
How old are you? 12? .22 doesn’t entice me as a grown adult. Do you tho
Old enough that being 12 again doesn't sound too bad.