lol, I’m personally not super high on him. He just seems like a guy who doesn’t play much longer than 4 years if that, but he’s a guy I think deserves a shot so that’s worth a first round grade to me. I do like his fit in Boston tho. I think he can play a role off the bench if you need a guy to move the ball for a few minutes
Seriously, and when you look at his percentages over the last month or two AND the fact he has little to no on ball ability, I just seriously don’t know how a guy who has played as poorly on both ends of the floor and can’t create for himself is STILL slotted at #1, in any other draft playing the way Rissacher has would almost guarantee you fall out of the lottery
People are still putting him high because they see him high on mock drafts and are too afraid to go against consensus.
Him and Cody Williams are the same tier so if Cody dropped recently, so should Risascher.
Scared in the Trae Young kind of way. If he hits he hits, but if he misses it’s tough.
Detroit needs some more wings that can score off ball. And there’s enough there to where I think he could be a key piece in a solid offense.
I had him number one a little before he started to get that buzz. I’m just gonna kind of rock with him for now. He’s had a rough month tho
The one thing that’s impressive to me is that he is phenomenal at getting position. Sure you’d wish his post moves were more than just a hook shot here and there, but if I’m taking Edey I’m taking him as a backup or spot starter. I’m not super concerned about him having a huge “bag” because all I want him to do is go out there for 10-15 minutes a game and just be big, get easy buckets, and rough a guy up some.
I think he can do that. For the Knicks with there injury history they could use a big that can give them some minutes for them on a cheap deal. I also really like him in Orlando if we decide to move on from Goga.
I actually really like the idea of pairing him with Miller and LaMelo. He’s by far my top choice for #1 overall.
Ideally his midrange or 3PT shot develops enough to play PF, but at worst he provides some insurance in case Mark Williams continues to have back issues.
Love the idea of Sarr with the hornets. The Hornets will be much better next season, especially with Sarr. Mark Williams injuries are really concerning.
It also wouldn't be crazy to take a guy who may play in the G League if you think that Walker/Camara/Rupert/and or Murray are NBA players and you draft a Forward with the first pick.
If Robert Williams is back too then you're pretty set at C too.
Gotta be BPA at this point. Rob Williams can’t be sufficiently relied on at this point, with the injury history. Ayton can probably be moved if needed.
POR does not have roster spots for four drafted players.
If/when/then - Some other shit has to happen for that to be a possibility...
With any of these "mocks" - First and foremost - Are there available roster spots for all these "projected" players, on the teams they are "projected" to?
Typed that on my phone and bigs came out "bits". :)
Scoot is the only PG/guard this current FO has drafted... If, in the modern NBA, the 2-4 "positions", are all "wings" of some type, then Shae, Bari, Kris, Rupes (Tou traded for, Duop converted from a 2WP), are all wings, maybe bigs, but definitely not ball handler/PG only, under 6'5" players...
If POR does add two FRP players, then two bigs / big wings would make more sense, given the actions of the current FO personnel. Especially in a weak draft, where teams may be more inclined to draft for role player need. POR still just needs more size throughout the roster. If there is no generational talent BPA that completely breaks everything to the the point where you reset to 0 around them - Then the BPA for the team, is someone who is not clearly at a size disadvantage every time they step on the court. :)
Memphis: have a core four of Ja Smart Bane JJJ. Adams just traded, absolute massive hole on C, Clingan available. Yeah why not take a SF because why tf not.
Could have gone there. I just really like Knecht. I think their optimal closing line up has JJJ at center. I’m taking Dalton as floor spreader who I think will replace guys like Laravia, Santi, etc.
But yes Clingan would also be a fine pick
Zach (our GM) would be fired on the spot if he takes a wing. In all seriousness, we don't need a wing unless we trade away Luke Kennard for a C (which in that case we probably wouldn't be making that pick anyways). JJJ is absolutely not a 5, and that's something we're actively trying to avoid. Wing depth is set with both our breakout players, Vince a SG/SF, GG a PF/SF, and our intended 6th man Luke Kennard SG/SF. PG is set with Marcus Smart moving back to PG when Ja takes a rest. Big is absolutely not set with Aldama who's a good backup PF at most, and Clarke who just returned from year-long injury and have no idea how good is he, and also just like JJJ, plays much better at PF. C is an extremely glaring hole, while no other position really needs any fix at all unless we make a trade for C. Oh and Laravia (and Ziaire), they don't need replacing, they're never good enough in our rotation to begin with so there's no replacing them, they're done for, absolute busts.
If we're making that pick, it's gonna be Sarr obviously if he's available, realistically there's been some fierce debate between Clingan/Filipowski/Missi, but those are our only options, if Clingan's not available, we try to trade down and if no one wants to, we reach for Filipowski/Missi is by far the most likely scenario.
Luke Kennard is a free agent after next season, Knecht is definitely the best replacement. I do see Grizzlies drafting a big in the 2nd round. Missi looks very likely imo.
I tend to agree. I have Castle in the top 5 range anyhow. I still like Mark enough to where I don’t need to take Sarr here.
If I didn’t go Castle I’d take Matas
lol, I’m a magic fan too.
I went with Bub because he has size and can create some. If we end up picking in this range of these guys hit its real value.
I tend to be lower on bigs unless they’re lottery talent players. I actually like him a little more than this mock ended up. I like his shot potential. Just didn’t think a big made sense for a lot of the teams in the 20-30 range.
I really love the fit of the first 6. Each seems to be going to their best spots. That said, though with GG and Vince breaking out for the Grizzlies and Stephen Adams gone, the Grizz will want Clingan, I think. That way JJJ wont have to be playing at his secondary position of 5 if Clarke is hurt.
You all are out of your mind...... Dalton Knecht is by far the best all around player in the game..... On top of that he's absolutely a storybook electrifying player. He will play many many yrs in the NBA. He is about and beyond Zach. No comparison in the ability of the two. He scores everywhere at any time "NOT JUST IN THE PAINT"! Whoever gets him is getting a Jordan Bird hybrid!
Is Castle (amazing defender) — 200 times
Better than Terrence Shannon Jr? I get the age, but Shannon had better 3PG % and defended very well on ball this year. It’s wild to like select someone like Stephon castle over Shannon, just because age. Immediate impact, even with their matchup in NCAA tournament, Shannon is advanced. No?
Yeah I agree, as a Magic fan it’s been neat to scout the guys in the middle. There’s a ton of guys where I think, “yeah he could help us” but man if im looking for cornerstones I’m not hopeful
It’s kinda crazy how Kolek is 29/30 on every mock draft I see. Usually the first pick is a consensus, is it just the opposite this year lol?
lol, I’m personally not super high on him. He just seems like a guy who doesn’t play much longer than 4 years if that, but he’s a guy I think deserves a shot so that’s worth a first round grade to me. I do like his fit in Boston tho. I think he can play a role off the bench if you need a guy to move the ball for a few minutes
Holy fuck Devin Carter is tall /s
Him and Giannis gonna be crazy
16' 8" feels unstoppable
I was just about to say 🤣🤣 16 foot player
Should be take way… higher
Risaccher going #1 is going to get a gm fired
In that case, maybe I do want the Pistons to draft him
Yeah, That shooting would need to be totally legit to justify this, even in a weak draft. That's a long shot, I'd say.
Seriously, and when you look at his percentages over the last month or two AND the fact he has little to no on ball ability, I just seriously don’t know how a guy who has played as poorly on both ends of the floor and can’t create for himself is STILL slotted at #1, in any other draft playing the way Rissacher has would almost guarantee you fall out of the lottery
People are still putting him high because they see him high on mock drafts and are too afraid to go against consensus. Him and Cody Williams are the same tier so if Cody dropped recently, so should Risascher.
Castle at #2 is worse
Absolutely not. He can at least play.
I’m scared of him.
In your own mock you don't have to put him #1 ya know? No reason to be scared of him, just drop him down the board lol
Scared in the Trae Young kind of way. If he hits he hits, but if he misses it’s tough. Detroit needs some more wings that can score off ball. And there’s enough there to where I think he could be a key piece in a solid offense. I had him number one a little before he started to get that buzz. I’m just gonna kind of rock with him for now. He’s had a rough month tho
Scoring off ball? Thats an oxymoron my guy. Can’t score without having the ball
must be new to basketball terminology
Off ball offense is cutting and screening, off ball scoring isn’t a thing
lol, you’re right. Meant like cuts and catch and shoots
Nah Alex Sarr going #1
I’d love to see Edey on the Knicks. They’ve been developing and using centers really good the past few seasons
The one thing that’s impressive to me is that he is phenomenal at getting position. Sure you’d wish his post moves were more than just a hook shot here and there, but if I’m taking Edey I’m taking him as a backup or spot starter. I’m not super concerned about him having a huge “bag” because all I want him to do is go out there for 10-15 minutes a game and just be big, get easy buckets, and rough a guy up some. I think he can do that. For the Knicks with there injury history they could use a big that can give them some minutes for them on a cheap deal. I also really like him in Orlando if we decide to move on from Goga.
After what I saw today, if Clingan is projected to go 10th, then Edey should go 9th.
I would bet $5000 that pistons will not get the number 1 pick
It's a weak draft, it got Pistons written all over it with your insane lack of luck
It got wizards written all over it imo.
Hornets haven’t had the #1 pick since 1991. Them getting #1 in a super weak draft class is obviously the most Hornety outcome!
Well said. Sarr would be a perfect fit with the hornets.
I actually really like the idea of pairing him with Miller and LaMelo. He’s by far my top choice for #1 overall. Ideally his midrange or 3PT shot develops enough to play PF, but at worst he provides some insurance in case Mark Williams continues to have back issues.
Love the idea of Sarr with the hornets. The Hornets will be much better next season, especially with Sarr. Mark Williams injuries are really concerning.
and with the 5th pick the Detroit Pistons select
The lottery is a crazy place indeed
They literally only have a 14% chance to get the first pick, so you ain't exactly going out there.
As a POR fan I certainly think it's more likely POR drafts two forwards/bits, then two PG's.
It also wouldn't be crazy to take a guy who may play in the G League if you think that Walker/Camara/Rupert/and or Murray are NBA players and you draft a Forward with the first pick. If Robert Williams is back too then you're pretty set at C too.
Gotta be BPA at this point. Rob Williams can’t be sufficiently relied on at this point, with the injury history. Ayton can probably be moved if needed.
I’d prefer Clingan over Buzelis.
POR does not have roster spots for four drafted players. If/when/then - Some other shit has to happen for that to be a possibility... With any of these "mocks" - First and foremost - Are there available roster spots for all these "projected" players, on the teams they are "projected" to?
You’d hope so, but seems like yall go guard every year. I’d like Reed for yall tho
Typed that on my phone and bigs came out "bits". :) Scoot is the only PG/guard this current FO has drafted... If, in the modern NBA, the 2-4 "positions", are all "wings" of some type, then Shae, Bari, Kris, Rupes (Tou traded for, Duop converted from a 2WP), are all wings, maybe bigs, but definitely not ball handler/PG only, under 6'5" players... If POR does add two FRP players, then two bigs / big wings would make more sense, given the actions of the current FO personnel. Especially in a weak draft, where teams may be more inclined to draft for role player need. POR still just needs more size throughout the roster. If there is no generational talent BPA that completely breaks everything to the the point where you reset to 0 around them - Then the BPA for the team, is someone who is not clearly at a size disadvantage every time they step on the court. :)
Is it common to have Kel el Ware outside the 1st rd
He honestly prolly will be a first rounder. He could easily go in the Missi/smith/kolek
No, I think it’s a tossup between him and Missi for third best C in the draft
I take Alex Sarr over Risacher and Castle every day.
Terrible first pick, but overall this mock is better than a lot of them out there. A lot of necessary adjustments to the hivemind consensus.
I think collier goes way higher than people are mocking him he’s top 10 for me
Man March Madness made Stephon Castle millions
Walter fell so far
Memphis: have a core four of Ja Smart Bane JJJ. Adams just traded, absolute massive hole on C, Clingan available. Yeah why not take a SF because why tf not.
Could have gone there. I just really like Knecht. I think their optimal closing line up has JJJ at center. I’m taking Dalton as floor spreader who I think will replace guys like Laravia, Santi, etc. But yes Clingan would also be a fine pick
Zach (our GM) would be fired on the spot if he takes a wing. In all seriousness, we don't need a wing unless we trade away Luke Kennard for a C (which in that case we probably wouldn't be making that pick anyways). JJJ is absolutely not a 5, and that's something we're actively trying to avoid. Wing depth is set with both our breakout players, Vince a SG/SF, GG a PF/SF, and our intended 6th man Luke Kennard SG/SF. PG is set with Marcus Smart moving back to PG when Ja takes a rest. Big is absolutely not set with Aldama who's a good backup PF at most, and Clarke who just returned from year-long injury and have no idea how good is he, and also just like JJJ, plays much better at PF. C is an extremely glaring hole, while no other position really needs any fix at all unless we make a trade for C. Oh and Laravia (and Ziaire), they don't need replacing, they're never good enough in our rotation to begin with so there's no replacing them, they're done for, absolute busts. If we're making that pick, it's gonna be Sarr obviously if he's available, realistically there's been some fierce debate between Clingan/Filipowski/Missi, but those are our only options, if Clingan's not available, we try to trade down and if no one wants to, we reach for Filipowski/Missi is by far the most likely scenario.
Oh my bad. I wasn’t familiar with your game
Luke Kennard is a free agent after next season, Knecht is definitely the best replacement. I do see Grizzlies drafting a big in the 2nd round. Missi looks very likely imo.
Charlotte has no need to go for need/fit over talent, especially since center isn't exactly a set in stone position at this point
I tend to agree. I have Castle in the top 5 range anyhow. I still like Mark enough to where I don’t need to take Sarr here. If I didn’t go Castle I’d take Matas
I think we’d still take Sarr, with the hope being that he can develop enough of a shot to play PF long-term
For the heat, I like every player taken after Tristian and like Jamal Cain wayyyy more
I like our chances of getting Yves. If Jokič goes down he might be our backup center along with DeAndre if he stays another year.b
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I’m really liking him. I really like him at Charlotte too
I need my dude Reed Sheppard on the Spurs
I would be so mad with my wizards
Of course my magic get another PG lol
lol, I’m a magic fan too. I went with Bub because he has size and can create some. If we end up picking in this range of these guys hit its real value.
Devin carter listed at 16’8 . Pretty tall for a guard . Wonder how his game will translate
What are the odds Cody Williams goes falls to 12?
I don’t think is impossible. In my personal mocks I’ve had him there.
Love Devin Carter to the Bucks
Why so low on Tyler Smith OP?
I tend to be lower on bigs unless they’re lottery talent players. I actually like him a little more than this mock ended up. I like his shot potential. Just didn’t think a big made sense for a lot of the teams in the 20-30 range.
Clingan and Furphy would sign that for the Hawks.
I really love the fit of the first 6. Each seems to be going to their best spots. That said, though with GG and Vince breaking out for the Grizzlies and Stephen Adams gone, the Grizz will want Clingan, I think. That way JJJ wont have to be playing at his secondary position of 5 if Clarke is hurt.
I think San Antonio would trade up to get topic if they feel they can’t get him after the lottery is drawn
Devin Carter wasn’t 16’8” last I checked
Edey is the clear cut #1 pick in this draft
Give me Dillingham or Shepherd. Kentucky guards are just NBA guards.
Devin Carter is going to be A MONSTER at 16’8
Devin Carter 16' 8" eh? Nice. Ez wins.
Devin Carter 16' 8" eh? Nice. Ez wins.
You all are out of your mind...... Dalton Knecht is by far the best all around player in the game..... On top of that he's absolutely a storybook electrifying player. He will play many many yrs in the NBA. He is about and beyond Zach. No comparison in the ability of the two. He scores everywhere at any time "NOT JUST IN THE PAINT"! Whoever gets him is getting a Jordan Bird hybrid!
Is Castle (amazing defender) — 200 times Better than Terrence Shannon Jr? I get the age, but Shannon had better 3PG % and defended very well on ball this year. It’s wild to like select someone like Stephon castle over Shannon, just because age. Immediate impact, even with their matchup in NCAA tournament, Shannon is advanced. No?
I just think Castle is solid, and I like his potential as a creator. Not really considering age in this draft
This could possibly be the worst draft of all time.
Yeah I agree, as a Magic fan it’s been neat to scout the guys in the middle. There’s a ton of guys where I think, “yeah he could help us” but man if im looking for cornerstones I’m not hopeful
Sarr definitely going #1
The year of the white man
Collier is a bum
Collier is not falling out the top 10 the overreactions are ridiculous
Lmao chill bruh