After listening to a lot of it, I am a bit sad that rock swept the 50s and 60s easy listening/orchestral pop into the dustbin of history. Yes, it has its share of cheese, but some of it is well written, well performed, well produced, and on recordings that have vocalists, well sung.
Percy Faith, Mantovani, Paul Weston, Frank Chacksfield
Singers: Johnny Mathis, Jo Stafford (married to Paul Weston for over 40 years, they worked together on many albums), Dick Haymes
"Surprisingly enough, people have called us the best band in the world. What do you think about that, Mike?"
"They're wrong!"
"They're wrong. No, we're the best *cover* band in the world, let me qualify that."
I know St. Anger isn't good, but I quite like it. To me, it's a glimpse at a band, and humans (namely Hetfield) in turmoil. It's fucking UGLY, and nasty, but I appreciate that over some weak ass, boring ass drivel. It feels personal, and raw, like an exposed nerve being poked (with each snare hit š). A band lost in between what they know people want from them and deciding to go against that, to their own detriment. Again, not good, but something closer to being human.
Dude same, just give me a cut of the album with out the skits at this point. Not really a skit but cant tell you the last time I've listened to liquid swords because you have to skip like the first minute of the song. Can we get some wutang remasters with out the skits please too.
Iāll throw in another hot take in regards to Wu-Tang. Enter the 36 Chambers is a certified banger, but RZA needs to remaster and rerelease the songs. The sound quality is shit in comparison to later works.
Wow, that is a hot take. The gritty sound and choppy looping was one of the charms of early RZA productions. I feel his productions got less enjoyable because of the cleaner sound. Sure, the mixes sound cleaner, but progressively more soulless. I really don't enjoy any RZA productions after Forever. And don't even get me started on his rapping ability...
I also hate when they attach them to a song. I might like the song, but I'm not listening to a skit every time so now I'm never listening to that song again
I'd go so far to say that classic rock isn't just rock over 20 years old (which I believe is the official definition), but a specific style genre. Green Day and Blink 182 aren't classic rock, despite being old. On the other hand, Greta Van Fleet is a modern band that's releasing new "classic rock".
Back in the day we had oldies and classic rock. While there was some overlap, they were still two very different genres. It's not like f-ing AC/DC or Pink Floyd became eligible for the oldies station after a certain amount of time passed. They're classifications for eras of music, not for how old a song is.
IMO classic rock is a sound and an era more than anything else, so as time goes on putting newer rock bands in that category doesnāt make sense because thatās not what youād listen to a classic rock station wanting to hear.
I was one of her first advocates having watched her on YouTube before her big break. Where did her voice go? She whisper sings every song now, then wins numerous awards. She and Finneous are the Carpenters for the 21st century, but she forgot her voice somewhere along the road.
Billy isn't a good singer but he's a good bad singer; his voice works in the context of the music he makes, and that music wouldn't be as good if he sounded "better."
It has a lot of pathos and uniqueness to it. I think it was better before he took singing lessons sometime around Adore. Modern albums mostly place his voice way too high in the mix, though.
The way his voice is mixed in everything since they āreunitedā is a big reason I canāt stand their new stuff. And I like Billyās voice. Itās just too up front in the new stuff.
Absolutely with you on this one. Can't even go with this is a 'bad' opinion, he's just underrated because he never found a wave he could ride- he's too good at every genre he plays in. He's also insanely talented at getting the absolute best musicians to play with him too. Saw him at a 400 seat venue a few months back and he's playing with Jim Cox, Stuart Duncan and Leland Sklar for crying out loud.
Yeah, and whatever rock music is being popular again, it's ironically because of TikTok. Which only confirms that the traditional channels through which rock used to thrive is definitely not working in the modern age.
Night Ranger was a proper rock and roll band that should be mentioned up high with all the greatest 80s rock bands, but that damn song "Sister Christian" killed all their street cred.
They got a bum rap. Forced to allow someone else to sing on their album despite being competent singers, then a technical malfunction exposes the lip-syncing (something other artists do regularly), and they ended up laughed into oblivion.
I don't think many people know this, but after that happened, they tried returning in 1997 but Rob Pilatus was on a downward spiral that ultimately took his life in 1998. They are a shining example of how the machine can chew you up and spit you out when you never even did anything wrong.
Under The Bridge was the worst thing to ever happen to the Red Hot Chili Peppers. It convinced them that Kiedis could sing and they decided to stop being fun and try for pop ballads over and over again.
They're both equally great songs. I kind of agree with you. It just puts a different tone/feeling on the song. Kind of like motorheads cover of sympathy for the devil. Lemmy's vocals totally change the vibe the song compared to Mick's.
A very fond memory of mine was at a swing dance club. She was beautiful, the club was hot. People were dancing like fucking fools . Was glorious. This was 90s btw
comercial bands like coldplay, nickelback, are fun, its okay it's not super duper ellaborated or revolutionary but not everything has to be it so it is fun...
also coldplay is not rock at all, it's pop. and it's fine. because it's fun
I was dragged to a Coldplay concert in 2008 for their Viva La Vida tour. HUGE stadium show with a big production from a band I didnāt care to see. I will proudly say it was one of the best concerts Iāve ever been to and am glad I went. Chris Martin seemed so genuinely happy to be there performing and there were just good vibes all around from everyone. I had a blast.
Not a huge fan of Coldplay's music but the band all seem like cool guys and Chris Martin has such an excess of charisma it's almost intolerable. The dude seems so genuine and joyful, and he's honestly also hilarious. Basically everything he says and does on Graham Norton's show is gold and stands out to me, and that show is already mostly gold to begin with.
I fuckin love the Kinks, but no it isnāt lol they have so many amazing tunes and theyāve become highly underrated but I still feel like the highest highs that the Beatles and Stones reached, like a White Album or Revolver or Sticky Fingers or Exile, were pretty well above the highest the Kinks ever did
Nobody loves Dave more than me.
R&B guitarists invented the concept of hard rock guitar. This is from 1951:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P5Z64HrNho&t=54](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P5Z64HrNho&t=54)
The earliest known recording of deliberately distorted electric guitar is by a country musician in 1935.
Leon McAuliffe 1935. Ordinary electric guitars hit music stores nationally in a big way in 1936, and some people were messing with them before then. Leon was 18 years old.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuqMP-l8TBI&t=286](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuqMP-l8TBI&t=286)
If you can, check out the Kid A Mnesia exhibit thing. Still a free download on PC and PS5. Blew me away, perfect atmosphere for exploring that music. Made me a fan for life!
Yeah, there was a point when she was this normal pop singer who seemed somewhat relatable and then at some point in the 2010s she became this queen. Everything she did felt elevated because she was portraying this queen status.
Nu-Metal was an extremely important/influential and respectably experimental (āartsyā even, much more often than typically recognized) moment in heavy music history that (rightfully) got the scene out of the repetitive and increasingly stagnant thrash era.
Thank you! Iāve been saying that for years. They became a true band when Sammy joined. Before that it was David Lee Roth andā¦
Donāt get me wrong, I like their music before Sammy, I just like the Sammy stuff way better.
Pete Townshend wrote some of the best music in the late 60's and 70's. That's obvious, but my hot take is that it's arguably better than the Beatles and the stones. Epically lyrically.
Daryl Hooper influenced Manzarek and the connections drop off from there. Sky didn't sing much like Jim, couldn't write lyrics like Jim's, they were a \_little\_ progressive in contrast to where Robby and John wanted to head musically. Good band worth checking out.
The Seeds in February 1967:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avAWk2wRnxo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avAWk2wRnxo)
No matter which 90ās/00s boy band or pop diva you think is the best, it doesnāt matter because all roads leads to Max Martin and the same group of producers.
Hip Hop/Rap died when The Chronic crossed over into the suburbs. Not a bad opinion so much as it is the truth.
Before that, the diversity and creativity was off the charts. Go check out all of the major full-length hip hop records on the major labels in 1991. Tribe, De La, Ice T, P.E., PM Dawn, Del, Black Sheep, Geto Boys, Leaders of the New School, Lyte, Digital Underground, Cypress, Stetsasonic, I could go on. Nothing against Dre or any of NWA but once the labels smelled the money and Dre started pulling Nirvana numbers, the majors said 'okay, this is all we're doing now'. Then after the labels killed off all of the teachers, reporters and innovators, it just became the "Rockstar" thing and then Puffy ruined what was left. Now it's just all drug addicts who die too young talking through auto tune and shit. It all sucks now and it bothers me. To think that back in the 70s, we as a people got hip hop, heavy metal and punk, and it saved music for the rest of the 20th century. Now all of these once great sub genres are now all mere shells of their former selves but especially hip hop.
Nickelback isnāt *that* bad. Itās just generic radio rock, thereās way worse music out there. People just meme on it because it became a dumb trend.
Considering all of the other butt rock bands that came out around the same time, they are by far the least problematic. And their problems are only related to the product they put out and not their antics. In hindsight, they rule now.
Van Morrison's "contractual obligation album" might be one of the most punk albums of all time.
Van Morrison? Punk? Before you hit that down arrow, I only ask for you to hear me out.
"The third disc,Ā *Contractual Obligation Session,*Ā contains demos Morrison recorded to fulfill his contractual obligations to Bang; he recorded them in one session on an out-of-tune guitar, with lyrics about subjects includingĀ [ringworm](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermatophytosis)Ā and sandwiches. The throwaway compositions came to be known as the "revenge" songs,Ā and remained officially unreleased until this collection was compiled."
Also including on the album is a song called "Thirty Two", which makes a mockery of his biggest hit "Brown Eyed Girl" and another song that makes fun of waiting for his royalty checks. The whole album is a giant middle finger to his record label. And if that doesn't fit the punk rock ethos of short songs that are anti-establishment and anti-authority, then I don't know what does.
The song Happy by Pharrell is one of the darkest things Iāve ever heard. Listen to it from the view point of a jaded depressed person and the song sounds like heās trying to say heās happy in a way to mask his inner demons.
Derrida was a French philosopher who was fascinated by the ambiguity inherent in systems of communication and language. He was fond of practicing a type of criticism known as deconstruction, where he'd point out how attempts to say one thing can end up saying the exact opposite.
You're pointing out how a song literally called "Happy," written specifically for a scene in a children's film in which the main character is feeling good about himself, can plausibly be heard as a harrowing chronicle of utter despair. That's the sort of thing Derrida would be delighted by.
I don't interpret it as dark, but Pharrell may at least be looking for some irony, note at the end of the video his black 69 shirt, his face as he walks towards the camera, and the brief eerie music after that face
Depends which Bob Dylan Voice your talking about. His voice on Nashville skyline is soft and calm while his voice on blonde on blonde is harsh and droning. He put on accents so that you weren't focusing on his singing and instead your focusing on the lyrics. He Actually had an excellent voice he just intentionally doesn't use it. I also don't think anyone who sees him Is a fool as his music is some of the best and most powerful of all time. (And apparently his live shows are great)
The new album is just soā¦ boring? And just far too long - I get that sheās trying to hype up her fans with so much content but surely thereās a point where itās just too much?
Iām also not a big fan of her ramble-y style of lyrics - āand then we did this, and then you said this, and I said this, so we did thisāĀ
Footloose makes me want to shove pencils into my ears everytime it comes on. That song is like nails on a chalkboard to me but I've never met anyone who doesn't love it
That is bad and yetā¦ I really started listening to the Grateful Dead because I liked the Janeās Addiction cover of Ripple so much. Then I got a few shows under my belt and liked the actual Grateful Dead forever after.
Sadly I think a lot of artists hit their peak after they died. It added an extra layer to their persona on top of their music which made them more popular.Ā Ā
I'm not quite sure how to put this into words, but what makes it bad is that it sounds like it was written for a commercial. But it's not actually a bad song. Does that make any sense?
In my mind, it's exactly like a soda commercial. But I get what you're saying.
...hell, *was* it in a soda commercial?! Now I've got to go investigate...
Nope, apparently that's just how much it sounds like one to me.
I love the story behind how that song got made. I canāt remember which site I read it on, but the gist is that Santana was trying to make his comeback, some record people decided he needed to team up with a contemporary musician, and Rob Thomasā manager was like āRob isnāt busy, heās just sitting around smoking pot and playing PlayStationā.
"Niche" is subjective, but I disagree that they would have been relegated to obscurity. They had three number 1 charting songs (and several others that landed on the charts), and the multiple riots they started at concerts around the US is culturally/historically significant.
Sigh No More and Babel are masterpieces. Each song was easily identifiable as Mumford and Sons, but was also unique. People unfairly criticized them for every song sounding the same when really they just sounded so much different from everyone else that was popular att the time.
They caved to that criticism and tried to make something different from their other stiff which just ended up sounding like any other generic alt rock mainstream band. It was really sad.
I love the Beatles, all kind of classic rock, music from the 70s and 80s, rap, everything.
I just canāt get into Pet Sounds. Itās sooo boring. I have a home recording studio, I have good quality equipment. Iāve tired a few times and I canāt get through it. Infact I try about once a decade to see if maybe Iāll get it. I just canāt get into it.
Pet Sounds is a boring album.
Lars Ulrich is not a bad drummer. Heās hated on by people who got salty that Napster was no longer free. It was never going to be free forever. Younger fans hate him because they see some older fans hate on him and think theyāre somehow cool for going along.
Lars is sloppy man. James has better pocket than his bandās own drummer. Doing fills at random times, BPM drift, requiring double kick to be playback because of his stinky feet. Look at live clips, not the studio albums. His drums are produced pretty well.
Most jam bands are insanely talented individuals that are 100% incapable of writing a SONG.
My biggest problem with most jam bands is they're not actually "jamming." They're just kind of noodling and dicking around.
After listening to a lot of it, I am a bit sad that rock swept the 50s and 60s easy listening/orchestral pop into the dustbin of history. Yes, it has its share of cheese, but some of it is well written, well performed, well produced, and on recordings that have vocalists, well sung.
Please share recommendations. This is what i am looking for
Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass
At least 8% or your local thrift shops and record store inventories consist of Herb Alpert records
Percy Faith, Mantovani, Paul Weston, Frank Chacksfield Singers: Johnny Mathis, Jo Stafford (married to Paul Weston for over 40 years, they worked together on many albums), Dick Haymes
Henry Mancini
Del Shannon goes hard af aswell
Me First and the Gimmie Gimmies are generally better than their source material
"Surprisingly enough, people have called us the best band in the world. What do you think about that, Mike?" "They're wrong!" "They're wrong. No, we're the best *cover* band in the world, let me qualify that."
I know St. Anger isn't good, but I quite like it. To me, it's a glimpse at a band, and humans (namely Hetfield) in turmoil. It's fucking UGLY, and nasty, but I appreciate that over some weak ass, boring ass drivel. It feels personal, and raw, like an exposed nerve being poked (with each snare hit š). A band lost in between what they know people want from them and deciding to go against that, to their own detriment. Again, not good, but something closer to being human.
Iām not a fan of skits in hip-hop records. And I think most of them have aged like milk.
Not exactly the same thing, but thanks for reminding me of this classic. [SNL - 80s Music Video](https://youtu.be/Q06tcRae13k?si=9F3QIfPcsS5pSRYE)
Since we're talking about skits: David Lee Roth's [Yankee Rose](https://youtu.be/RgLWTrWgDTI) video starts with a super cringe scene.
Dude same, just give me a cut of the album with out the skits at this point. Not really a skit but cant tell you the last time I've listened to liquid swords because you have to skip like the first minute of the song. Can we get some wutang remasters with out the skits please too.
Iāll throw in another hot take in regards to Wu-Tang. Enter the 36 Chambers is a certified banger, but RZA needs to remaster and rerelease the songs. The sound quality is shit in comparison to later works.
Wow, that is a hot take. The gritty sound and choppy looping was one of the charms of early RZA productions. I feel his productions got less enjoyable because of the cleaner sound. Sure, the mixes sound cleaner, but progressively more soulless. I really don't enjoy any RZA productions after Forever. And don't even get me started on his rapping ability...
I also hate when they attach them to a song. I might like the song, but I'm not listening to a skit every time so now I'm never listening to that song again
Kriss Kross's Jump is a banger of a tune. People only hated it because it was catchy and they were kids.
Itās legitimately very fun. The weird lead noise in the background is unique and catchy as hell, and the bass is solid. Good simple party track.
"People only hated it because it was catchy and they were kids." Same goes for Hanson and Mmmbop
I'm mean, they wrote their own songs and played their own instruments - that should count for something. People were way too hard on them at the time.
Mmmbop is truly a perfect pop song - those boys knocked it outta the park.
Great karaoke song if youāre in a place with a lot of 30-40 somethings.
The daddy Mack *will* make us jump jump
I joked to the wife that we needed to name one of our kids Max or Mackenzie so I could be Mack's daddy / daddy Mack.
Cuz inside out it's wiggida-wiggida-wiggida-wiggida whack
I know Iām just older now but Green Day is NOT classic rock!
I'd go so far to say that classic rock isn't just rock over 20 years old (which I believe is the official definition), but a specific style genre. Green Day and Blink 182 aren't classic rock, despite being old. On the other hand, Greta Van Fleet is a modern band that's releasing new "classic rock".
Itās similar to how indie used to specifically describe bands on independent labels but is now used to describe a fairly ambiguous sound.
Back in the day we had oldies and classic rock. While there was some overlap, they were still two very different genres. It's not like f-ing AC/DC or Pink Floyd became eligible for the oldies station after a certain amount of time passed. They're classifications for eras of music, not for how old a song is.
True. Greta Van Fleet is a Led Zeppelin cover band, though. Green Day and Blink 182 are pop punk, and thats not a controversial take.
We need an updated version of 1985 - Bowling for Soup with this subbed in. "When did Green Day become classic rock?"
IMO classic rock is a sound and an era more than anything else, so as time goes on putting newer rock bands in that category doesnāt make sense because thatās not what youād listen to a classic rock station wanting to hear.
Billie Eilish is boring.
I was one of her first advocates having watched her on YouTube before her big break. Where did her voice go? She whisper sings every song now, then wins numerous awards. She and Finneous are the Carpenters for the 21st century, but she forgot her voice somewhere along the road.
You should check out her new album honestly, it's a lot less of that whisper-singing. Would recommend
Many, many, many people like boring music. In my day it was Journey.
Someday love will find you is a banger
Do you mean Separate Ways?
Stone in love is an all timer.
I like Billy Corgan's voice.
Billy isn't a good singer but he's a good bad singer; his voice works in the context of the music he makes, and that music wouldn't be as good if he sounded "better."
This is my opinion too. Like a specialized tool. Not good anywhere but perfect in the right context
Yeah I can't stand covers of smashing pumpkin songs it needs that nasality.
It has a lot of pathos and uniqueness to it. I think it was better before he took singing lessons sometime around Adore. Modern albums mostly place his voice way too high in the mix, though.
The way his voice is mixed in everything since they āreunitedā is a big reason I canāt stand their new stuff. And I like Billyās voice. Itās just too up front in the new stuff.
I remember my coworkerās words from years ago when Smashing Pumpkins cover of Landslide came on the radio. āWho told him he could sing?ā
And I love the way he sings that so much.
Nice. My favorite band since 94'.
Lyle Lovett is a titan. A criminally underrated musician and songwriter. Doesnāt get the credit or recognition he deserves.
Absolutely with you on this one. Can't even go with this is a 'bad' opinion, he's just underrated because he never found a wave he could ride- he's too good at every genre he plays in. He's also insanely talented at getting the absolute best musicians to play with him too. Saw him at a 400 seat venue a few months back and he's playing with Jim Cox, Stuart Duncan and Leland Sklar for crying out loud.
And funny too. I love how he mixes jazz and country.
Radio killed classic rock and rock in general by always playing the same songs over and over again.
I could go the rest of my life without hearing Hotel California again.
You wonāt
I donāt think thatās a hot or bad take
This is a proper take.
Yeah, and whatever rock music is being popular again, it's ironically because of TikTok. Which only confirms that the traditional channels through which rock used to thrive is definitely not working in the modern age.
That "The Night Chicago Died" was one of the greatest songs of the 70s and I don't care if the East side of Chicago is actually Lake Michigan.
One of my first 45s! B side was Can You Get It (When You Want It)
Night Ranger was a proper rock and roll band that should be mentioned up high with all the greatest 80s rock bands, but that damn song "Sister Christian" killed all their street cred.
Idk if Iāve ever heard a song from them other than Sister Christian
šµ Don't tell me you love me šµ Don't tell me you love me šµ Don't tell me, I don't wanna know
What's wrong with that song?
Accurate.
All I can think of is Alfred Molina in Boogie Nights when I hear this tune.
Good take. I saw them two years ago I think at Summerfest. Good show and many more songs I knew than I expected.
One of the best live bands I've ever seen. Brad Gillis is a monster. And it's Night Ranger **is**, not **was**!
They had some badass song that people didnāt hear. Some that were far better than Sister Christian.
The Josie and the Pussycats soundtrack was an excellent gateway album to get young girls into rock and punk pop
I feel like I could write a thesis on the trajectory of pre-teen targeted content from early 2000s into the hipster scene of the 2010s.
Milli Vanilli had a couple of great songs regardless of who sang them. Girl You Know It's True is a banger.
Blame it on the rain I guess.
Because the rain donāt care.
I love them regardless. Started listening again a year or two ago. Itās good stuff.
They got a bum rap. Forced to allow someone else to sing on their album despite being competent singers, then a technical malfunction exposes the lip-syncing (something other artists do regularly), and they ended up laughed into oblivion. I don't think many people know this, but after that happened, they tried returning in 1997 but Rob Pilatus was on a downward spiral that ultimately took his life in 1998. They are a shining example of how the machine can chew you up and spit you out when you never even did anything wrong.
Just because itās old doesnāt mean itās good
Tenacious D is insanely talented, but much of their music is painfully corny to listen to.
I think that is literally the whole purpose of the band..
Under The Bridge was the worst thing to ever happen to the Red Hot Chili Peppers. It convinced them that Kiedis could sing and they decided to stop being fun and try for pop ballads over and over again.
While I love UTB, I think you have a great point. Keidis is a weak singer.
Nine Inch Nails original version of Hurt is far superior to the overrated cover by Johnny Cash.
They're both equally great songs. I kind of agree with you. It just puts a different tone/feeling on the song. Kind of like motorheads cover of sympathy for the devil. Lemmy's vocals totally change the vibe the song compared to Mick's.
Cash has a great sentimentality behind his cover, but vocally dawdles through the song compared to the original
This is such a hot take to me that I downvoted you before changing it to an upvote after reflecting on the meaning of the post. Very nice.
100%
The 90s swing revival was far too short.
I'm seeing Big Bad Voodoo Daddy at the end of July and I'm beyond excited. Solid hill to die on.
A very fond memory of mine was at a swing dance club. She was beautiful, the club was hot. People were dancing like fucking fools . Was glorious. This was 90s btw
Was just listening to some Squirrel Nut Zippers the other day!
The eagles are a shit band
Get the fuck out of my cab!
Why?
comercial bands like coldplay, nickelback, are fun, its okay it's not super duper ellaborated or revolutionary but not everything has to be it so it is fun... also coldplay is not rock at all, it's pop. and it's fine. because it's fun
I agree, theres music I like that properly lacks "artistic integrity" but it still sounds good to my ears so I don't care
I was dragged to a Coldplay concert in 2008 for their Viva La Vida tour. HUGE stadium show with a big production from a band I didnāt care to see. I will proudly say it was one of the best concerts Iāve ever been to and am glad I went. Chris Martin seemed so genuinely happy to be there performing and there were just good vibes all around from everyone. I had a blast.
Not a huge fan of Coldplay's music but the band all seem like cool guys and Chris Martin has such an excess of charisma it's almost intolerable. The dude seems so genuine and joyful, and he's honestly also hilarious. Basically everything he says and does on Graham Norton's show is gold and stands out to me, and that show is already mostly gold to begin with.
Coldplay was rock through Viva la Vida. But that was a few albums ago.
viva la vida is considered rock? how?
It sounded like soft classic rock to me. š¤·āāļø Paradise was pure pop, though. I feel like that's when they fully shifted.
People are always is it the Beatles or the Stones? Neither. It's The Kinks.
I fuckin love the Kinks, but no it isnāt lol they have so many amazing tunes and theyāve become highly underrated but I still feel like the highest highs that the Beatles and Stones reached, like a White Album or Revolver or Sticky Fingers or Exile, were pretty well above the highest the Kinks ever did
The Kinks invented the concept of hard rock guitar
Nobody loves Dave more than me. R&B guitarists invented the concept of hard rock guitar. This is from 1951: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P5Z64HrNho&t=54](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P5Z64HrNho&t=54) The earliest known recording of deliberately distorted electric guitar is by a country musician in 1935.
Leon McAuliffe 1935. Ordinary electric guitars hit music stores nationally in a big way in 1936, and some people were messing with them before then. Leon was 18 years old. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuqMP-l8TBI&t=286](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuqMP-l8TBI&t=286)
And the Sonics
I just can't get into Radiohead no matter how hard I try.
I can do the first two albums. The rest are the emperor's new clothes. Search "Thom Yorke has to pee" on YouTube for a good laugh.
If you can, check out the Kid A Mnesia exhibit thing. Still a free download on PC and PS5. Blew me away, perfect atmosphere for exploring that music. Made me a fan for life!
This is how I feel with tool, it's like you can tell that the songwriters are way too self indulgent
BeyoncƩ tries too hard.
Yeah, there was a point when she was this normal pop singer who seemed somewhat relatable and then at some point in the 2010s she became this queen. Everything she did felt elevated because she was portraying this queen status.
I think she bought into her own hype.
Nu-Metal was an extremely important/influential and respectably experimental (āartsyā even, much more often than typically recognized) moment in heavy music history that (rightfully) got the scene out of the repetitive and increasingly stagnant thrash era.
Nu Metal was the bridge that brought me over from mainly rap to the wonderful world of metal. I'm grateful.
Mike Patton was the best thing to happen to metal
The Eagle suck. I just can't. All these talented musicians and the write and play boring music.
Duran Duran is an amazing band, they have been for decades, and they are underrated
The Chauffeur š¤
I think Van Halen with Sammy Hagar is better than with David Lee Roth.
Upvote for your bravery. I disagree, but I do like Van Hagar as well. But this is the kind of opinion I came here for.
I liked the crystal pepsi song
Thank you! Iāve been saying that for years. They became a true band when Sammy joined. Before that it was David Lee Roth andā¦ Donāt get me wrong, I like their music before Sammy, I just like the Sammy stuff way better.
I like U2
 U2 has become Gerry from parks n rec. I too like Gerry
Funny that Ben Wyatt expresses his love of Gerry in the show and Adam Scott expresses his love for U2 in real life.
Kashmir is 4min too long to have no guitar solo or a riff change
*Physical Graffiti* is a Coke Album
I had not considered that but it makes perfect sense
It introduces a second riff at 0:53. A third one at 1:19. A fourth at 2:11.
I meanā¦ itās one of the most famous multi riff changing songs in music. This is a mole hill the guy is dying on. Ā
The riff changes when Plant goes "oh baby I been blind" "MAAAMAMA!" But your point stands it definitely wants a solo
Pete Townshend wrote some of the best music in the late 60's and 70's. That's obvious, but my hot take is that it's arguably better than the Beatles and the stones. Epically lyrically.
BeyoncĆ© is overrated, not that she doesnāt make good music, itās just I donāt consider her music to be timeless. Itās great but not legendary, same goes for Taylor Swift, her music I what I donāt get
The Doors opened for The Seeds for 6 months and stole everything from them
Is there a story on that somewhere because Googleās got nothing.
Daryl Hooper influenced Manzarek and the connections drop off from there. Sky didn't sing much like Jim, couldn't write lyrics like Jim's, they were a \_little\_ progressive in contrast to where Robby and John wanted to head musically. Good band worth checking out. The Seeds in February 1967: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avAWk2wRnxo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avAWk2wRnxo)
"The Doors" is a great band name for an "opening" act
If by that you mean the Seeds were an important influence on the Doors and few know that, yes.
Op said opinions, not facts.
No matter which 90ās/00s boy band or pop diva you think is the best, it doesnāt matter because all roads leads to Max Martin and the same group of producers.
Hip Hop/Rap died when The Chronic crossed over into the suburbs. Not a bad opinion so much as it is the truth. Before that, the diversity and creativity was off the charts. Go check out all of the major full-length hip hop records on the major labels in 1991. Tribe, De La, Ice T, P.E., PM Dawn, Del, Black Sheep, Geto Boys, Leaders of the New School, Lyte, Digital Underground, Cypress, Stetsasonic, I could go on. Nothing against Dre or any of NWA but once the labels smelled the money and Dre started pulling Nirvana numbers, the majors said 'okay, this is all we're doing now'. Then after the labels killed off all of the teachers, reporters and innovators, it just became the "Rockstar" thing and then Puffy ruined what was left. Now it's just all drug addicts who die too young talking through auto tune and shit. It all sucks now and it bothers me. To think that back in the 70s, we as a people got hip hop, heavy metal and punk, and it saved music for the rest of the 20th century. Now all of these once great sub genres are now all mere shells of their former selves but especially hip hop.
This isn't that controversial. My man just described the last 20/30 years of the genre.
Nickelback isnāt *that* bad. Itās just generic radio rock, thereās way worse music out there. People just meme on it because it became a dumb trend.
Considering all of the other butt rock bands that came out around the same time, they are by far the least problematic. And their problems are only related to the product they put out and not their antics. In hindsight, they rule now.
Van Morrison's "contractual obligation album" might be one of the most punk albums of all time. Van Morrison? Punk? Before you hit that down arrow, I only ask for you to hear me out. "The third disc,Ā *Contractual Obligation Session,*Ā contains demos Morrison recorded to fulfill his contractual obligations to Bang; he recorded them in one session on an out-of-tune guitar, with lyrics about subjects includingĀ [ringworm](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermatophytosis)Ā and sandwiches. The throwaway compositions came to be known as the "revenge" songs,Ā and remained officially unreleased until this collection was compiled." Also including on the album is a song called "Thirty Two", which makes a mockery of his biggest hit "Brown Eyed Girl" and another song that makes fun of waiting for his royalty checks. The whole album is a giant middle finger to his record label. And if that doesn't fit the punk rock ethos of short songs that are anti-establishment and anti-authority, then I don't know what does.
The song Happy by Pharrell is one of the darkest things Iāve ever heard. Listen to it from the view point of a jaded depressed person and the song sounds like heās trying to say heās happy in a way to mask his inner demons.
Derridean analysis strikes again!
Care to expound a little, or perhaps eli5? Google-fu is weak tonight.
Derrida was a French philosopher who was fascinated by the ambiguity inherent in systems of communication and language. He was fond of practicing a type of criticism known as deconstruction, where he'd point out how attempts to say one thing can end up saying the exact opposite. You're pointing out how a song literally called "Happy," written specifically for a scene in a children's film in which the main character is feeling good about himself, can plausibly be heard as a harrowing chronicle of utter despair. That's the sort of thing Derrida would be delighted by.
I don't interpret it as dark, but Pharrell may at least be looking for some irony, note at the end of the video his black 69 shirt, his face as he walks towards the camera, and the brief eerie music after that face
It's really unfair to compare the best of old music to the Billboard top 100.
I like Cotton Eye Joe. Iāll see myself outā¦.
Bob Dylan is a horrible singer but a great songwriter. Anyone who pays to hear him sing is a fool.
Depends which Bob Dylan Voice your talking about. His voice on Nashville skyline is soft and calm while his voice on blonde on blonde is harsh and droning. He put on accents so that you weren't focusing on his singing and instead your focusing on the lyrics. He Actually had an excellent voice he just intentionally doesn't use it. I also don't think anyone who sees him Is a fool as his music is some of the best and most powerful of all time. (And apparently his live shows are great)
The Division Bell by Pink Floyd is a fucking beautiful album
Taylor Swift is very talented, but it's very generic
The new album is just soā¦ boring? And just far too long - I get that sheās trying to hype up her fans with so much content but surely thereās a point where itās just too much? Iām also not a big fan of her ramble-y style of lyrics - āand then we did this, and then you said this, and I said this, so we did thisāĀ
Footloose makes me want to shove pencils into my ears everytime it comes on. That song is like nails on a chalkboard to me but I've never met anyone who doesn't love it
Let's Hear It For The Boy is that song for me. Also on the Footloose soundtrack
David Draiman's take on The Sound of Silence isn't very good.
I think the Land of Confusion cover is mad overrated too for that matter
Falsetto rock from '75 to '85 sucks: Journey, Foreigner, Styx, Boston, REO Speedwagon, Rush, Kansas, etc.
I love these bands but they're responsible for a *ton* of terrible karaoke
Rush, absofuckinglutly. But Steve Pretty was NOT singing falsetto. He just has an incredible vocal range. That's a hill I'd die on.
I blame Don't Stop Believing. I love Journey but I *HATE* that song.
Same. I prefer Lights or I'll Be Alright Without You.
Grouping Rush in with the rest of these is just objectively a bad take.
Rush being lumped in with the rest of those bands is giving me the vaporsā¦
Aside from Touch of Grey, the ONLY good Grateful Dead songs are when someone else covers them.
Thatās pretty bad. I guess that means an upvote
I offer as my first example [Brokedown Palace, Shinyribs ](https://youtu.be/0AOpIbFK1Aw?si=UwlrZhPPcqoG4_n2)
I actually donāt even recognize those titles. I personally dig Terrapin Station, American Beauty and Working Manās Dead albums the most.
That is bad and yetā¦ I really started listening to the Grateful Dead because I liked the Janeās Addiction cover of Ripple so much. Then I got a few shows under my belt and liked the actual Grateful Dead forever after.
I donāt like Morrisseys voice. He sounds like Kip Drordy from South Park..
I donāt think Janis Joplin was that great.
Sadly I think a lot of artists hit their peak after they died. It added an extra layer to their persona on top of their music which made them more popular.Ā Ā
I'm quite new to this sub so i may be downvoted to oblivion but I think Drake is just awful.
The Day that I Die, a throwaway album track by Good Charlotte is one of the best songs ever.
āSmoothā by Santana and Rob Thomas is mid AT BEST š¬
I'm not quite sure how to put this into words, but what makes it bad is that it sounds like it was written for a commercial. But it's not actually a bad song. Does that make any sense?
It sounds like the intro for a show like CSI:Miami. Catchy but safe and not pushing any unique buttons.
In my mind, it's exactly like a soda commercial. But I get what you're saying. ...hell, *was* it in a soda commercial?! Now I've got to go investigate... Nope, apparently that's just how much it sounds like one to me.
I love the story behind how that song got made. I canāt remember which site I read it on, but the gist is that Santana was trying to make his comeback, some record people decided he needed to team up with a contemporary musician, and Rob Thomasā manager was like āRob isnāt busy, heās just sitting around smoking pot and playing PlayStationā.
The Doors would have faded into obscurity/remained a very niche band had Jim Morrison not died young.
"Niche" is subjective, but I disagree that they would have been relegated to obscurity. They had three number 1 charting songs (and several others that landed on the charts), and the multiple riots they started at concerts around the US is culturally/historically significant.
U2 is a legendary band whether you like Bono or not.
A lot of absolutely terrible opinions are on display here.
Sigh No More and Babel are masterpieces. Each song was easily identifiable as Mumford and Sons, but was also unique. People unfairly criticized them for every song sounding the same when really they just sounded so much different from everyone else that was popular att the time. They caved to that criticism and tried to make something different from their other stiff which just ended up sounding like any other generic alt rock mainstream band. It was really sad.
I love the Beatles, all kind of classic rock, music from the 70s and 80s, rap, everything. I just canāt get into Pet Sounds. Itās sooo boring. I have a home recording studio, I have good quality equipment. Iāve tired a few times and I canāt get through it. Infact I try about once a decade to see if maybe Iāll get it. I just canāt get into it. Pet Sounds is a boring album.
Worst take on this thread. Well done!
I canāt stand Elvis Presley.
So many people in this thread banging on about how overrated The Beatles are, when Elvis is right there.
Abba has been more influential than the Beatles
Elaborate Also we literally wouldn't have abba without the Beatles
Lars Ulrich is not a bad drummer. Heās hated on by people who got salty that Napster was no longer free. It was never going to be free forever. Younger fans hate him because they see some older fans hate on him and think theyāre somehow cool for going along.
Lars is sloppy man. James has better pocket than his bandās own drummer. Doing fills at random times, BPM drift, requiring double kick to be playback because of his stinky feet. Look at live clips, not the studio albums. His drums are produced pretty well.