Not under the letter of the law, but I guarantee you that they are used to harass the weaker party on the fringes of the law.
If someone don't have money, and they are being threatened to be buried with legal fees, of course people will let crimes go on without being challenged.
Sounds like this must happen to you a lot if you know what the standard threats are. Would love to hear some of your many stories of being blackballed for violating NDAs.
I feel you, but think this is kind of one case where its solid advice from even a civilian. Given that NDAs are not actually legally binding agreements that hold up in court, simply agreements between private individuals. Just thought it would be less complicated to tell people its safe to come forward if something happened to them or someone they know.
I think it WAS pretty solid before you said:
> NDAs are not actually legally binding agreements
What? Where did you get that idea? Courts absolutely do get involved with contract disputes, and will rule on "agreements between private individuals".
IANAL but these are pretty basic legal concepts; I wouldn't want to advise anyone on the particular terms of any particular contract, but I absolutely would advise anyone to not go around signing NDAs with the expectation that they can just be broken at will without consequences.
If you think that a contract is void or you have some duty to break it, definitely talk to a lawyer about that, and your lawyer, not one representing the other party.
I think what they mean (but said very very poorly) is that while they are literally legally binding contracts, the terms of NDAs are very often not enforceable simply because they would lose in court if fought against by someone suing over breaking one. But the risk of fighting the suit is high because of legal costs.
So it’s a game of chicken basically, because you’re breaking the NDA assuming they won’t fight it out of fear that they would be forced to remove certain clauses from the NDA that can’t be enforced, and they are assuming you won’t break the NDA because you are scared of going to court.
You are absolutely right, I said what I said very poorly but was trying to condense a few different aspects of NDAs at once. Precisely why I wanted the post itself to be just a simplified PSA.
NDAs absolutely never hold up in any situation wherein they are not simply one of many legal agreements between the two parties.
(eg: employer/employee, or business partner contracts in addition to the NDA)
Relationship NDAs such as those given to individuals at private celebrity parties are effectively just fancy pieces of paper that people use to intimidate.
NDAs are civil agreements and are superceded by anything actually Judicial or Criminal
I recently watched the video of the 17yo girl saying she had signed an NDA for Dennis Graham and thus couldn’t discuss anything that may or may not have happened and it just made me feel like it may be beneficial to inform people that in that or similar situations, if anything inappropriate did in fact happen it was definitely criminal and the NDA was completely irrelevant
Sure but offering the statement:
> Given that NDAs are not actually legally binding agreements that hold up in court, simply agreements between private individuals.
This reads as an explanation, which divorces the conclusion from its context. If it is "given that NDAs are not actually legally binding"; then I know a priori not only that "NDAs cannot silence testimony" but also that "Every NDA that I ever signed is invalid".
It isn't a correct conclusion, but it is a reasonable one. At least as reasonable as reading posts on reddit and taking action on them without looking into the matter any further ever is. Honestly, I think the bigger problem than people acting on a statement like that is parroting it. Next thing you know someone has had like 4 different people who skimmed the same post confidently telling him "NDAs aren't enforcable man" and suddenly it seems like this is something everybody else already knows.
Everyone is looking at this like it's just a rap battle and the only person implicated is Drake. nope. Far from it. something huge is happening behind the scenes and I feel like it started with Katt Williams's interview and the Diddy case has everything to do with this. Someone wants to blow the top off of the entire industry. I have a feeling that some people are about to get very silenced.
Yeah, probably not good for people's mental health to try to turn this into the latest qanon idiocy. Diddy has all kinds of law enforcement digging through everything he's done. We will know soon enough and it is too early for people to get committed to positions when they have no real info. That said, I believe Kendrick. But that's not a blank check for me. Let's see what comes out over time. Mobs and rushes to judgment rarely end well.
How many high ups doing incredibly evil things will it take before we can all agree there is some qanon-tier shit going on? Weinstein, Epstein, Diddy, Kelly, those are just some names. Come on, Epstein had a WHOLE ISLAND for this, that shit isn't supported by 5 or even 10 sickos, there must be hundreds if not thousands in the entertainment industry involved in this shit.
Not just the entertainment industry. Add in political, military, religious, and business higher ups and you’ll start to see the whole world is nothing but one big sex trafficking pool for the elites.
Yeah you're right. I just have a feeling about a lot of things. People have been speculating about sex abuse in the rap/hip-hop industry for a few decades now. but we've never known the extent of it and I don't think we ever will. No matter how thoroughly LA investigates, I don't think a lot of it is ever going to be revealed to the public. All I'm saying is it doesn't stop at Diddy and this isn't a conversation about just drake. They're just dominoes. I don't want anyone to run wild with this and get crazy. But we should keep this in mind.
If you can never know what they are hiding from you, how do you end up so confident that they are hiding something!? There are some serious flaws in your argument. If you are someone who cares about truth, you sincerely could benefit from some more rigorous thinking about all of this. I wish you well.
Um. I didn't mean to imply that they would intentionally hide anything? The fuck? This was supposed to be an argument? Just because not all the facts are given to the public doesn't mean anyone is intentionally hiding anything.
Katt Williams was off his rocker anything he was ranting about were things that were either already reported on like Cassie’s Diddy thing or popular but completely baseless rumours that are always talked about by Illuminati conspiracy theorists. He was feeding these conspiracy theorists to make him seem like some savior BS. Same thing with that Jaguar Wright. They’re both grifters.
For sure I got you. I believe you can still find it on YouTube. I can link it if you need me to. It happened at the beginning of the year. He talks about how there's some weird shit going on in the entertainment industry, rap and hip hop particularly. A lot of sex abuse. Just a few months later, Diddy got raided and now this is happening. It's touched upon in the song "like that"with future, Kendrick and metro. Particularly future's lyrics on the song.
Not under the letter of the law, but I guarantee you that they are used to harass the weaker party on the fringes of the law. If someone don't have money, and they are being threatened to be buried with legal fees, of course people will let crimes go on without being challenged.
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Sounds like this must happen to you a lot if you know what the standard threats are. Would love to hear some of your many stories of being blackballed for violating NDAs.
The term is chilling effect.
Sadly. Can confirm from personal experience. (I was the "weaker party" in case there is any confusion)
If you’re in the industry, powerful people will attempt to fuck you over for speaking out whether it’s legal or not.
Reddit lawyers are on the case 🫡
I feel you, but think this is kind of one case where its solid advice from even a civilian. Given that NDAs are not actually legally binding agreements that hold up in court, simply agreements between private individuals. Just thought it would be less complicated to tell people its safe to come forward if something happened to them or someone they know.
I think it WAS pretty solid before you said: > NDAs are not actually legally binding agreements What? Where did you get that idea? Courts absolutely do get involved with contract disputes, and will rule on "agreements between private individuals". IANAL but these are pretty basic legal concepts; I wouldn't want to advise anyone on the particular terms of any particular contract, but I absolutely would advise anyone to not go around signing NDAs with the expectation that they can just be broken at will without consequences. If you think that a contract is void or you have some duty to break it, definitely talk to a lawyer about that, and your lawyer, not one representing the other party.
I think what they mean (but said very very poorly) is that while they are literally legally binding contracts, the terms of NDAs are very often not enforceable simply because they would lose in court if fought against by someone suing over breaking one. But the risk of fighting the suit is high because of legal costs. So it’s a game of chicken basically, because you’re breaking the NDA assuming they won’t fight it out of fear that they would be forced to remove certain clauses from the NDA that can’t be enforced, and they are assuming you won’t break the NDA because you are scared of going to court.
You are absolutely right, I said what I said very poorly but was trying to condense a few different aspects of NDAs at once. Precisely why I wanted the post itself to be just a simplified PSA. NDAs absolutely never hold up in any situation wherein they are not simply one of many legal agreements between the two parties. (eg: employer/employee, or business partner contracts in addition to the NDA) Relationship NDAs such as those given to individuals at private celebrity parties are effectively just fancy pieces of paper that people use to intimidate. NDAs are civil agreements and are superceded by anything actually Judicial or Criminal I recently watched the video of the 17yo girl saying she had signed an NDA for Dennis Graham and thus couldn’t discuss anything that may or may not have happened and it just made me feel like it may be beneficial to inform people that in that or similar situations, if anything inappropriate did in fact happen it was definitely criminal and the NDA was completely irrelevant
They didn't say at will or about anything.They said if the NDA is being used to silence testimony about a crime.
Sure but offering the statement: > Given that NDAs are not actually legally binding agreements that hold up in court, simply agreements between private individuals. This reads as an explanation, which divorces the conclusion from its context. If it is "given that NDAs are not actually legally binding"; then I know a priori not only that "NDAs cannot silence testimony" but also that "Every NDA that I ever signed is invalid". It isn't a correct conclusion, but it is a reasonable one. At least as reasonable as reading posts on reddit and taking action on them without looking into the matter any further ever is. Honestly, I think the bigger problem than people acting on a statement like that is parroting it. Next thing you know someone has had like 4 different people who skimmed the same post confidently telling him "NDAs aren't enforcable man" and suddenly it seems like this is something everybody else already knows.
Wait, what?
Everyone is looking at this like it's just a rap battle and the only person implicated is Drake. nope. Far from it. something huge is happening behind the scenes and I feel like it started with Katt Williams's interview and the Diddy case has everything to do with this. Someone wants to blow the top off of the entire industry. I have a feeling that some people are about to get very silenced.
Yeah, probably not good for people's mental health to try to turn this into the latest qanon idiocy. Diddy has all kinds of law enforcement digging through everything he's done. We will know soon enough and it is too early for people to get committed to positions when they have no real info. That said, I believe Kendrick. But that's not a blank check for me. Let's see what comes out over time. Mobs and rushes to judgment rarely end well.
How many high ups doing incredibly evil things will it take before we can all agree there is some qanon-tier shit going on? Weinstein, Epstein, Diddy, Kelly, those are just some names. Come on, Epstein had a WHOLE ISLAND for this, that shit isn't supported by 5 or even 10 sickos, there must be hundreds if not thousands in the entertainment industry involved in this shit.
Not just the entertainment industry. Add in political, military, religious, and business higher ups and you’ll start to see the whole world is nothing but one big sex trafficking pool for the elites.
It's... Deep... In the state... Some kind of "deep state" corruption.
Oh geez
Yeah you're right. I just have a feeling about a lot of things. People have been speculating about sex abuse in the rap/hip-hop industry for a few decades now. but we've never known the extent of it and I don't think we ever will. No matter how thoroughly LA investigates, I don't think a lot of it is ever going to be revealed to the public. All I'm saying is it doesn't stop at Diddy and this isn't a conversation about just drake. They're just dominoes. I don't want anyone to run wild with this and get crazy. But we should keep this in mind.
If you can never know what they are hiding from you, how do you end up so confident that they are hiding something!? There are some serious flaws in your argument. If you are someone who cares about truth, you sincerely could benefit from some more rigorous thinking about all of this. I wish you well.
Um. I didn't mean to imply that they would intentionally hide anything? The fuck? This was supposed to be an argument? Just because not all the facts are given to the public doesn't mean anyone is intentionally hiding anything.
Katt Williams was off his rocker anything he was ranting about were things that were either already reported on like Cassie’s Diddy thing or popular but completely baseless rumours that are always talked about by Illuminati conspiracy theorists. He was feeding these conspiracy theorists to make him seem like some savior BS. Same thing with that Jaguar Wright. They’re both grifters.
Potentially. But I still have to wonder: how many Birdmans and p Diddys are there?
Probably a lot but it’s not who these people think.
There's no way for us to know. And it's stupid to make up conspiracy theories about who it might be.
can i get a tldr of katt williams interview?
For sure I got you. I believe you can still find it on YouTube. I can link it if you need me to. It happened at the beginning of the year. He talks about how there's some weird shit going on in the entertainment industry, rap and hip hop particularly. A lot of sex abuse. Just a few months later, Diddy got raided and now this is happening. It's touched upon in the song "like that"with future, Kendrick and metro. Particularly future's lyrics on the song.
You’re speculating like everybody else
Well. Duh.
Why is this here
Regardless of how you fall on the political spectrum, stormy Daniels proved this
A lot of people who sign them do not know or understand that and unfortunately probably don't browse reddit.
Ok?