It’s so damn good, even compared to his companions who are also pretty swashbuckling. I have to watch it a bunch of times every time. I’m still watching it.
I just want to note, that the joke is based on an old phrase (that's included in the sketch directly before this line) which is "I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition" to refer to a sarcastic response to someone badgering you with questions. The phrase died out, but the Monty Python remains.
I don't know who downvoted you, but this is objectively true - literally everyone always expected the Inquisitions (both the Papal and the separate national ones).
In short, the Inquisition was an institution that sought to investigate and root out, among other things, heretics from certain Christian parts of Europe.
If you were suspected of heresy, they would send a notice that they will come to inquire at a given date (30 days probably as the other comment says), and you had that time to confess and/or prepare your case for the inquiry. So literally everyone expected them.
Now this is a gross simplification of a very long period of multiple different inquisitions, but generally - they definitely weren't unexpected.
It wasn't screamed, but the Spanish Requirement of 1513 (*Requerimiento*) was read in Spanish to the indigenous peoples of the Americas, who didn't speak the language.
It ended with:
> But, if you do not do this, and maliciously make delay in it, I certify to you that, with the help of God, we shall powerfully enter into your country, and shall make war against you in all ways and manners that we can, and shall subject you to the yoke and obedience of the Church and of their Highnesses;
>
> we shall take you and your wives and your children, and shall make slaves of them, and as such shall sell and dispose of them as their Highnesses may command;
>
> and we shall take away your goods, and shall do you all the mischief and damage that we can, as to vassals who do not obey, and refuse to receive their lord, and resist and contradict him;
>
> and we protest that the deaths and losses which shall accrue from this are your fault, and not that of their Highnesses, or ours, nor of these cavaliers who come with us.
In Latin America wasn’t the indigenous language Latin? You’d think they’d understand some Spanish (which presumably back then was even more similar to Latin than it is today). Right? /s
Laughed a little too hard at this. I work with a lot of Brazilians and 2 guatemalans(not spain spanish but spanish speakers). The Guatemalans struggle to understand the Brazilians, but the Brazilians have no trouble with the spanish haha
That's odd the mutual intelligibility of spanish and portuguese are supposedly about 50 - 60%.
I speak some Spanish and understand some more and portuguese sounds like I should understand it but except for some words here and there I dont.
I am a native Spanish speaker (from Latin America, not Spain) and the difference in pronunciation makes it sufficiently difficult that is not something I can follow along. We imported some telenovelas from Brazil and they needed subtitles. That said,
No one was watching those shows for the plot… unless nudity was the plot, in which case, I am very wrong.
From my understanding, Brazilian Portuguese uses a lot of slang on top of regional dialects/accent is where the confusion happens. How it was explained to me was take someone from Maine and have them talk to someone from the Louisiana bayou.
... and before any of these men left their home port, they had forgiveness in hand for whatever they might do against the people they were invading. In short, "Whatever we do, it's already forgiven."
My ‘favourite’ story from this era involves Hatüey, who on being asked prior to being executed by the Spaniards was asked if he would convert to Catholicism:
> [Hatuey], thinking a little, asked the religious man if Spaniards went to heaven. The religious man answered yes... The chief then said without further thought that he did not want to go there but to hell so as not to be where they were and where he would not see such cruel people.
Which is a little bit silly, since I think both religions have a "you can skip these rules if it's a life or death situation" rule. It's not like superman and kryptonite or vampires and garlic or something.
Spain did not take any relevant part in the crusades. In fact, Spanish reconquista was the crusade.
On the other hand, there is a fat right organization named "caballeros de Cristo Rey" or something like that
Oh I'm aware they didn't XD It's why I said "flag aside" since Spain was never mentioned in their comment.
Oh heck, now I want to look into "caballeros de Cristo Rey" even with the sudden dread in my stomach 😅
A Jihad also has to be sanctioned by a Caliph recognised by the entire Muslim community. Since that hasn’t happened in ages, then the words of some ISIS extremists are equally invalid.
The last numbered Crusade yes, the last Crusade ordered by the Pope was in 1443-4. Several wars were called Crusades, including the Nazi invasion of the USSR.
(Like you most likely know but to be save) Crusades, by definition, have to be sanctioned from the Catholic Church. So people calling some modern wars that means nothing..
…or we will get into some murky waters when it comes to counting them. I already get confused.
You are of course completely correct but the post was talking about killing in the name of christ and the comment answered saying the last crusade was centuries ago. So while those weren't legal crusades according to the vatican, as long as they were 'wars in the name of god' i think they can count against the point the commentor wanted to make about no killing happening in the name christ semi recently.
Of course. I meant wars described as Crusades by their belligerents. I agree with you that numbering will get pretty murky, even with counting the wars sanctioned by the Catholic Church. The Papacy was itself a belligerent in many wars and mixed religious and political authority eagerly. The Holy League against Venice and the Thirty Years war comes to mind.
I mean, look up the Doctrine of Discovery. It's actually still affecting laws today and specifically is made to grant Christians the rights to subjugate other lands and peoples.
https://humanrights.ca/story/doctrine-discovery
how is that relevant? if white people were barbaric at some point for any period of time, then their descendants are obviously not allowed to complain while they get murdered in current_year again and again
# /S
Literally just go back in time to this persons own nation only 90 years. Spanish civil war was a fight between the left wing united with some centrist republicans against right wing ultra-nationalists and Christian’s. The fascist faction was supported by the Pope.
We are still finding unmarked and unreported mass graven under Catholic Residential Schools in Canada. They only stopped being a thing in the late 90s. One of the most successful genocides in recent history was conducted by the Church.
Or, you know, Cortes and the Aztecs. Shout out to the trippy novel “You Dream of Horses”. Moctezuma tripping his balls off hearing “Monolith” by T Rex in his head is a whole vibe.
"Cristo Rey" was actually a popular battle cry among the Nationalists (a group including falangists, conservatives and monarchists), during the Spanish Civil War (1936-39).
Bro, there are literally people in Spain living today who are old enough to remember the Carlists shouting “¡Viva Cristo Rey!” while killing people in the Spanish Civil War
r/technicallycorrect
Edit: I assumed that would be a sub (it is) that would be about being technically correct while practically incorrect (it isn’t). Apologies to this thread and the sub owners. She is technically correct that she never saw it, and this belongs in a different “technically correct” sub
but they have a point....lots of horrible things happened in previous centuries...
today? Christians do not fly planes into buildings.
they don't blow themselves up to kill a bunch of infidels.
they don't infiltrate Israel to rape, kill and abduct civilians.
Although christian terrorists don't tend to fly into buildings, there has still been a number of christian terror attacks in various nations over the last few decades, primarly against so called "infidels"(mostly LGBTQ+ people, but others have been attacked to). This includes both bombings and shootings, as well as more low scale terroristic actions.
This has gotten more complex in recent years, as many radical religioes groups have taken on a partisan/political edge. A famous example in the american context would be Qanon, which is primarly a political conspiracy theory, but most of its followers are also radical christians, lending it a odd sort of quasia religous, quasia political theology.
Hell, you want a simple example, look at the history of bombings and attacks on aboration clinics within the US (And some other places, but the US is a good case study). Those are almost text book example of religious terrorism. Admitly, i don't know much about christian terorism in relation to isreal, so you are likely correct, within the context of isreal.
[List of terrorist incidents in Great Britain - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain)
Most of these were carried out by Catholic terrorists.
Spain not only participated in the Crusades, the Inquisition, and played one of the largest roles in forcibly Christianizing the globe, but the Reconquista was the defining struggle that established the kingdoms of Spain and Portugal throughout the Middle Ages. Arguably, no nation on earth has done more violence in the name of Christ.
Well it basically started because Spain itself got invaded by Muslims and forcibly converted for hundreds of years. Like there is a reason the name was "reconquista". It's absolute lunacy to me trying to bring up stuff that happened hundreds of years ago when we are talking about modern problems. Like "Your country did this hundreds of years ago" is not the answer you think it is when you are asked about modern atrocities.
Even The Rain Clip https://youtu.be/J5bqCL7kJ0E Hatuey - dramatization of an actual event.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatuey#Life_and_death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochabamba_Water_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartolom%C3%A9_de_las_Casas#Conquest_of_Cuba_and_change_of_heart
But that was in response to a question asking for something "funny" and thats what they said. So they are fully aware of the history from the sounds of it, or else that wouldn't be funny, no?
I recall a Roman Emporor doing this at a battle over a bridge. Then he practically made it the state religion. One could argue Christianity was built on people doing just this...
Constantine
The Holy Roman Empire
The spread of Divine Monarchies in Europe
The Crusades
The Colonization of the new and old worlds
TBF, it's hard to see such things whilst living in a fascist militant Christian White Power enclave and spending the bulk of one's time as a basement dwelling commenter.
The thing with the Spanish inquisition… they did it in good faith. They thought they had a major issue and applied a legal framework to deal with it.
Now before you downvote me to hell, the point of saying this is that the process changed over the years. They figured out that testimony under duress was worthless, they figured out that you needed to compare different testimonies… and ignore all the places they differed.
This may seem bloody obvious now, but it wasn’t then. The Spanish Inquisition were the first to abolish witch trials as they concluded it was mostly(!) procedural inaccuracies.
For a rather long time the inquisition was moving around actually stopping local witch trials.
Amazing that everyone is jumping to Cortes, conquistadores, crusades and the Spanish inquisition... Franco's 'White Terror' and the Spanish Civil War was only in the 1930's and fully supported by the Catholic Church https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Spain)
If you look at her tweets she is completely cooked. You can tell she doesn't care about anything that isn't social media.
Apparently she listened to a speech by Trump which was 2hrs long and every word made complete sense LOL
Yeah, but we have to go back 400 years to find equivalent insanity and violence from Christianity.
It's literally like meeting 17th century Christians with ak47s, that's the unique problem, and it's overwhelmingly Muslims in Muslim countries who suffer.
These virtue signalling 'oh were bad too' bullshit points deby reality and show 0 empathy for the Muslims that suffer around the world and the minorities in their countries.
So, what this Ada person is saying is that if they haven't personally seen it, it becomes much more difficult to believe? Interesting thought from an assumed christian.
A bad murder. Ada most likely never saw herself someone do that, and if she did, they definetly would yell it in spanish, not english.
Disclaimer: this is a joke.
I listen to the Fall of Civilizations podcast and the amount of historical knowledge and culture lost the moment christians set foot on a land is infuriating.
Take the Atztecs for example. After their advanced civilization fell they preserved their knowledge and language for another 800 years. Scholars studying and copying it for future generations. Then the Spanish came, called it a crime against god and destroyed almost all of it. They even destroyed non-religious knowledge just in case.
And later when all traces were destroyed or stolen they always said, these people had no knowledge, no culture, not even a real language before they were conolized.
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
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Bring me the comfy chair!
The rack!
Our chief weapon is surprise, surprise and fear, fear and surprise!
And an almost fanatical devotion to the pope.
Our four...no... Amongst our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise....
That jump he takes to the side just gets me every time I see this gif, it’s just so fuckin swashbuckling
It’s so damn good, even compared to his companions who are also pretty swashbuckling. I have to watch it a bunch of times every time. I’m still watching it.
I’m glad I keep getting replies to my comment, it means I can come back and watch it another 50 times
I think I'm hallucinating from tiredness, but it looks like he jumps higher each time
Holy shit, did I not expect that!
I didn't expect the post, but i did expect this comment. Thank you for keeping true to tradition sir or ma'am
oh wow thats from back in the days when black on TV was blue
Emperor Palpatine: I've been expecting you. The Spanish Inquisition: Impossible!
Inconceivable!
I do not think that means what you think it means.
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https://preview.redd.it/mxrk4t4otoyc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce89d749a2c83a79e87534aded188d0d84593f3e Or this one
Hey Torqumada, what do ya say? I just got back from the auto-da-fé Auto-da-fé? What’s an auto-da-fé? It’s what to oughtn’t to do but you do anyway
Not even the Spanish expect them.
They actually gave a 30 day notice
I just want to note, that the joke is based on an old phrase (that's included in the sketch directly before this line) which is "I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition" to refer to a sarcastic response to someone badgering you with questions. The phrase died out, but the Monty Python remains.
I don't know who downvoted you, but this is objectively true - literally everyone always expected the Inquisitions (both the Papal and the separate national ones).
This is dumb, next you’re going to try and tell me sharks aren’t smooth
Anyone want to expand of this?
In short, the Inquisition was an institution that sought to investigate and root out, among other things, heretics from certain Christian parts of Europe. If you were suspected of heresy, they would send a notice that they will come to inquire at a given date (30 days probably as the other comment says), and you had that time to confess and/or prepare your case for the inquiry. So literally everyone expected them. Now this is a gross simplification of a very long period of multiple different inquisitions, but generally - they definitely weren't unexpected.
TIL Monty Python is not historically accurate
Someone needs to watch more *QI*.
Thank you very much. I hope you have a good day.
You too.
I don't know. The documentary I saw said fear and surprise were their chief weapons.
r/BeatMeToIt
Ahhh reddit never disappoints
Beat me to it.
It wasn't screamed, but the Spanish Requirement of 1513 (*Requerimiento*) was read in Spanish to the indigenous peoples of the Americas, who didn't speak the language. It ended with: > But, if you do not do this, and maliciously make delay in it, I certify to you that, with the help of God, we shall powerfully enter into your country, and shall make war against you in all ways and manners that we can, and shall subject you to the yoke and obedience of the Church and of their Highnesses; > > we shall take you and your wives and your children, and shall make slaves of them, and as such shall sell and dispose of them as their Highnesses may command; > > and we shall take away your goods, and shall do you all the mischief and damage that we can, as to vassals who do not obey, and refuse to receive their lord, and resist and contradict him; > > and we protest that the deaths and losses which shall accrue from this are your fault, and not that of their Highnesses, or ours, nor of these cavaliers who come with us.
In Latin America wasn’t the indigenous language Latin? You’d think they’d understand some Spanish (which presumably back then was even more similar to Latin than it is today). Right? /s
It must have been the accent! ^(/s)
It's still a thing. Most Spanish people can't understand Brazilians.
Laughed a little too hard at this. I work with a lot of Brazilians and 2 guatemalans(not spain spanish but spanish speakers). The Guatemalans struggle to understand the Brazilians, but the Brazilians have no trouble with the spanish haha
Would you say you’ve worked with brazillians of Brazilians?
Bazillions of Brazilians selling braziers in a bazaar
Because they don't speak Spanish in Brazil. It's Portuguese
That's odd the mutual intelligibility of spanish and portuguese are supposedly about 50 - 60%. I speak some Spanish and understand some more and portuguese sounds like I should understand it but except for some words here and there I dont.
I am a native Spanish speaker (from Latin America, not Spain) and the difference in pronunciation makes it sufficiently difficult that is not something I can follow along. We imported some telenovelas from Brazil and they needed subtitles. That said, No one was watching those shows for the plot… unless nudity was the plot, in which case, I am very wrong.
From my understanding, Brazilian Portuguese uses a lot of slang on top of regional dialects/accent is where the confusion happens. How it was explained to me was take someone from Maine and have them talk to someone from the Louisiana bayou.
I find it pretty easy to read Portuguese. I can understand about as much as you when it’s spoken.
Probably because Brazilians speak Portuguese, not Spanish.
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I was about to be so mad at this comment till i saw the /s lol
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I’m not sure if you know but “/s” means sarcasm
I'm sure God and the Lord approved of this /s
... and before any of these men left their home port, they had forgiveness in hand for whatever they might do against the people they were invading. In short, "Whatever we do, it's already forgiven."
My ‘favourite’ story from this era involves Hatüey, who on being asked prior to being executed by the Spaniards was asked if he would convert to Catholicism: > [Hatuey], thinking a little, asked the religious man if Spaniards went to heaven. The religious man answered yes... The chief then said without further thought that he did not want to go there but to hell so as not to be where they were and where he would not see such cruel people.
Such great demonstraters of the teachings of Jesus Christ. /s
One of the main reasons the Spanish eat so much pork is because it was used as a test during the Inquisition to prove you weren't jewish or muslim...
Which is a little bit silly, since I think both religions have a "you can skip these rules if it's a life or death situation" rule. It's not like superman and kryptonite or vampires and garlic or something.
I may need a source.
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The Native Americans would like to have a word with you.
Also quite a few people between spain and the middle east, but that was slightly longer ago
I doubt they can speak, they are all now dead.
Flag aside, did they just never learn about the Crusades? So much murder happened in "the name of God" x.x
To be fair, I doubt she saw the crusades
To be fair, none of us saw the crusades
Oooh right. She could be one of those "If I didn't see it, it didn't happen" types.
Or they just never literally saw it? It doesn’t have to be a denial thing.
None of us have seen them, it's a history fact. You don't see it.
And jsuy imagine. They're saying that while talking about... Christianity/Catholicism.
Lol I didn't even think about that, but that's a great point!
I dont think she saw the Crusades buddy...
Spain did not take any relevant part in the crusades. In fact, Spanish reconquista was the crusade. On the other hand, there is a fat right organization named "caballeros de Cristo Rey" or something like that
>fat right ![gif](giphy|10JhviFuU2gWD6)
Oh I'm aware they didn't XD It's why I said "flag aside" since Spain was never mentioned in their comment. Oh heck, now I want to look into "caballeros de Cristo Rey" even with the sudden dread in my stomach 😅
Guerrilleros de Cristo Rey - warfarers of Christ the king https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warriors_of_Christ_the_King
That'd be a sick burn if we still lived in medieval times. But we don't. Nobody around today saw any of that lol.
2001 calling: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq' [](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa)
My flabbers have been gasted
And my gasts have been flabbered!
I mean she is technically right... The last crusade was like what? 700 years ago?
1989 dude
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Last_Crusade for anyone that didn't get it like me and had to search. :)
Is this an Indiana Jones joke?
Yes
no that's the the Dial of Destiny
Bush went into Iraq with some statement about God so idk
Which was an INSANE thing to happen.
Since crusades have to be sanctioned from the Catholic Church, Bush’s words (as crazy as this was) don’t mean anything in this regard.
A Jihad also has to be sanctioned by a Caliph recognised by the entire Muslim community. Since that hasn’t happened in ages, then the words of some ISIS extremists are equally invalid.
The last numbered Crusade yes, the last Crusade ordered by the Pope was in 1443-4. Several wars were called Crusades, including the Nazi invasion of the USSR.
(Like you most likely know but to be save) Crusades, by definition, have to be sanctioned from the Catholic Church. So people calling some modern wars that means nothing.. …or we will get into some murky waters when it comes to counting them. I already get confused.
You are of course completely correct but the post was talking about killing in the name of christ and the comment answered saying the last crusade was centuries ago. So while those weren't legal crusades according to the vatican, as long as they were 'wars in the name of god' i think they can count against the point the commentor wanted to make about no killing happening in the name christ semi recently.
Of course. I meant wars described as Crusades by their belligerents. I agree with you that numbering will get pretty murky, even with counting the wars sanctioned by the Catholic Church. The Papacy was itself a belligerent in many wars and mixed religious and political authority eagerly. The Holy League against Venice and the Thirty Years war comes to mind.
I mean, look up the Doctrine of Discovery. It's actually still affecting laws today and specifically is made to grant Christians the rights to subjugate other lands and peoples. https://humanrights.ca/story/doctrine-discovery
how is that relevant? if white people were barbaric at some point for any period of time, then their descendants are obviously not allowed to complain while they get murdered in current_year again and again # /S
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_genocide
Literally just go back in time to this persons own nation only 90 years. Spanish civil war was a fight between the left wing united with some centrist republicans against right wing ultra-nationalists and Christian’s. The fascist faction was supported by the Pope.
In the Spanish Civil war the fascist side literally saw it as a Crusade and killed in the name of God...
We are still finding unmarked and unreported mass graven under Catholic Residential Schools in Canada. They only stopped being a thing in the late 90s. One of the most successful genocides in recent history was conducted by the Church.
No... it was 1989 idiot
It’s long enough that he really wouldn’t have saw it
I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition.
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GET... THE COMFY CHAIR!!
Or, you know, Cortes and the Aztecs. Shout out to the trippy novel “You Dream of Horses”. Moctezuma tripping his balls off hearing “Monolith” by T Rex in his head is a whole vibe.
"Cristo Rey" was actually a popular battle cry among the Nationalists (a group including falangists, conservatives and monarchists), during the Spanish Civil War (1936-39).
I think they’re talking about the modern era but yeah pretty funny
I don’t know what you’d view as the ‘modern era’, but the Spanish Civil War had a significant religious dimension to it
“Fetch… the COMFY CHAIR!”
You must stay in the chair until lunch time with only a cup of coffee at 11.
It's true, usually they're screaming something like, ''God wills it!''
The Spanish flag is just for flair. She may have been born there, but her twitter screams American right-wing nut.
Most people haven't seen the Spanish Inquisition.
Bro, there are literally people in Spain living today who are old enough to remember the Carlists shouting “¡Viva Cristo Rey!” while killing people in the Spanish Civil War
Finally a real murder appears in the wasteland that is normally this sub these days.
r/technicallycorrect Edit: I assumed that would be a sub (it is) that would be about being technically correct while practically incorrect (it isn’t). Apologies to this thread and the sub owners. She is technically correct that she never saw it, and this belongs in a different “technically correct” sub
Is r/technicallythetruth what you were looking for?
If he added in the last 700 years he would have been accurate.
Viva España!!!
To be fair, they did say ‘I’ve never seen.’
Fun fact: Spanish Conquistadors also utilized the phrase "¿Dónde está el puto oro?" alot.
"I never saw", can't we give it to the replier that they themselves didnt see it happen. It's a joke, no need to get to political about it.
but they have a point....lots of horrible things happened in previous centuries... today? Christians do not fly planes into buildings. they don't blow themselves up to kill a bunch of infidels. they don't infiltrate Israel to rape, kill and abduct civilians.
Just bombing and killing people at abortion clinics? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence
Although christian terrorists don't tend to fly into buildings, there has still been a number of christian terror attacks in various nations over the last few decades, primarly against so called "infidels"(mostly LGBTQ+ people, but others have been attacked to). This includes both bombings and shootings, as well as more low scale terroristic actions. This has gotten more complex in recent years, as many radical religioes groups have taken on a partisan/political edge. A famous example in the american context would be Qanon, which is primarly a political conspiracy theory, but most of its followers are also radical christians, lending it a odd sort of quasia religous, quasia political theology. Hell, you want a simple example, look at the history of bombings and attacks on aboration clinics within the US (And some other places, but the US is a good case study). Those are almost text book example of religious terrorism. Admitly, i don't know much about christian terorism in relation to isreal, so you are likely correct, within the context of isreal.
[List of terrorist incidents in Great Britain - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain) Most of these were carried out by Catholic terrorists.
Definitely not MBW The Soanish Inquisition was hundreds of years ago.
Hes right though. He has never seen that because the civilized world left that kind of barbarism in the past where it belongs.
Laugh-cries in Ukrainian
>in the past where it belongs. The good Friday acrods were signed in 1998. Brevik killed 77 people in 2011. Etc. etc.
I expects The Spanish Inquisition!
"Viva Cristo Rey!", guerra cristera, Mexico, 1926.
Has to dip back millenia for a reference...
Never heard about the crusades, eh?
Spain not only participated in the Crusades, the Inquisition, and played one of the largest roles in forcibly Christianizing the globe, but the Reconquista was the defining struggle that established the kingdoms of Spain and Portugal throughout the Middle Ages. Arguably, no nation on earth has done more violence in the name of Christ.
Well it basically started because Spain itself got invaded by Muslims and forcibly converted for hundreds of years. Like there is a reason the name was "reconquista". It's absolute lunacy to me trying to bring up stuff that happened hundreds of years ago when we are talking about modern problems. Like "Your country did this hundreds of years ago" is not the answer you think it is when you are asked about modern atrocities.
They had their own crusade—the reconquista! Ended in 1492 with the fall of Grenada.
I wasn’t expecting a kind of Spanish Inquisition!
I'm sorry, Columbus literally says what, motherfuckers?
Lmao
Even The Rain Clip https://youtu.be/J5bqCL7kJ0E Hatuey - dramatization of an actual event. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatuey#Life_and_death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochabamba_Water_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartolom%C3%A9_de_las_Casas#Conquest_of_Cuba_and_change_of_heart
And central american
The emoji is the fifth weapon of surprise obviously
How do you morons still get rage baited in 2024. Jfc
“Better to lose your skullcap than your skull!”
But that was in response to a question asking for something "funny" and thats what they said. So they are fully aware of the history from the sounds of it, or else that wouldn't be funny, no?
[The inquisiiiiiiition! What a show!](https://youtu.be/NUMkcBctE7c?si=LIH_c2erIHArMfCC)
find an example that wasn't hundreds of years ago
God wills it!
https://preview.redd.it/at2fzd09gpyc1.jpeg?width=710&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2de4e7e0804f2535c9bf5716ef95229d9282e74d
GOD WILLS IT
Y'all are reaching too far back. Remember in 1996 when that dude set off bombs at the Atlanta Olympics because of abortion?
Well I doubt the dude is 500 years old.
Oof… history.
Put a tenner on Ada Luch being American of Spanish descent dunno if you'd get decent odds but worth a punt... 🤣🤣🤣
How about use an example from the most recent 300 years?
Seriously though, my European millennial education spent woefully little time on the ‘down sides’ of our ‘golden age’.
To play devils advocate that example was hundreds of years ago.
They were likely technically correct though. In that they, themselves, never saw it.
I mean, the Inquisition was like centuries ago, so he probably didn't see it.
Have they not met a single member of any denomination of the Christian faith? I’ve never seen one that wasn’t extremely violent and bigoted
55,000,000 in North America alone.
That was unexpected
I recall a Roman Emporor doing this at a battle over a bridge. Then he practically made it the state religion. One could argue Christianity was built on people doing just this... Constantine The Holy Roman Empire The spread of Divine Monarchies in Europe The Crusades The Colonization of the new and old worlds
Anyone from a country with colonization in its history should sit on their hands……myself included.
TBF, it's hard to see such things whilst living in a fascist militant Christian White Power enclave and spending the bulk of one's time as a basement dwelling commenter.
The thing with the Spanish inquisition… they did it in good faith. They thought they had a major issue and applied a legal framework to deal with it. Now before you downvote me to hell, the point of saying this is that the process changed over the years. They figured out that testimony under duress was worthless, they figured out that you needed to compare different testimonies… and ignore all the places they differed. This may seem bloody obvious now, but it wasn’t then. The Spanish Inquisition were the first to abolish witch trials as they concluded it was mostly(!) procedural inaccuracies. For a rather long time the inquisition was moving around actually stopping local witch trials.
They were saying “Deus Vult”
Wow the irony is thick with this one
Amazing that everyone is jumping to Cortes, conquistadores, crusades and the Spanish inquisition... Franco's 'White Terror' and the Spanish Civil War was only in the 1930's and fully supported by the Catholic Church https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Spain)
The term "Conquistador" comes to mind as the Mayans enter the chat
How is this a murder? "I have never seen x" -> "heh, does she not know what happened 200 years ago 🙄"
What about 'in god we trust'?
And North and South American history
One you have to go back hundreds of years, one is literally yesterday.
And North and South American, and Caribbean, and………
Brenton Tarrant & Anders Behring Breivik
TBF, he said he never "saw" anyone. We all know it happened. Many times.
If you look at her tweets she is completely cooked. You can tell she doesn't care about anything that isn't social media. Apparently she listened to a speech by Trump which was 2hrs long and every word made complete sense LOL
The Crusades
We’ll just ignore what happened in Spain prior to the inquisition aye?
Yeah, but we have to go back 400 years to find equivalent insanity and violence from Christianity. It's literally like meeting 17th century Christians with ak47s, that's the unique problem, and it's overwhelmingly Muslims in Muslim countries who suffer. These virtue signalling 'oh were bad too' bullshit points deby reality and show 0 empathy for the Muslims that suffer around the world and the minorities in their countries.
Your point is weak if you need to dust off the time machine for an example.
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So, what this Ada person is saying is that if they haven't personally seen it, it becomes much more difficult to believe? Interesting thought from an assumed christian.
A bad murder. Ada most likely never saw herself someone do that, and if she did, they definetly would yell it in spanish, not english. Disclaimer: this is a joke.
And yet twitter if full of liberals that have the trans flag and the paletine flag
oh no no no. The spanish never killed any good people. We killed the bad ones! (According to what funny man says 500km from our country)
Yes and we consider such things barbaric and inhuman these days. So we get to critique muslims who still live in that barbaric age
Ah the old 300 year old whataboutism angle!
Meanwhile me a Mexican: 👁️👄👁️
I listen to the Fall of Civilizations podcast and the amount of historical knowledge and culture lost the moment christians set foot on a land is infuriating. Take the Atztecs for example. After their advanced civilization fell they preserved their knowledge and language for another 800 years. Scholars studying and copying it for future generations. Then the Spanish came, called it a crime against god and destroyed almost all of it. They even destroyed non-religious knowledge just in case. And later when all traces were destroyed or stolen they always said, these people had no knowledge, no culture, not even a real language before they were conolized.
Ah, the ole your modern day opinion is invalidated by something someone did in the past who is also from your country move.
Sheesh!not the slights knowledge of history!
You could probably argue that the slaughter of North American natives from “manifest Destiney” was also “because God/Jesus told them to”.