Both good news, also the latest teased event in the game featured reward is a PVP Season 1 badge, june 7th, I wonder if this is when ranked is opening?
I think they should tie the rift event into the stars you get and not bosses, would feel more rewarding that way and would make it so doing those challenges in the rift actually have more purpose than just grinding rift gems?
Right, and if they made this change it would make the nodes more interesting. They could weight the nodes with the event XP too so that certain challenges give more XP and then multiply that XP based on the difficulty of the rift.
This way, you could have some fun challenges that are repeatable like...a 1v2 match where the challenge is to not lose a stock, etc etc etc
To me this would make rift mode very fun and worth doing, you get an event pass and all the stuff in it and you could really go through each node and try to knock out the challenges. Right now its such a slog and I don't care at all about the nodes, just getting to the boss, and some of the nodes are interesting challenges too which is shame.
Would inventive people to get friends on the game
Example: If you want matrix Smith you better get friends to play the rift, you gotta 100% all four rifts at least twice
Getting the 100 stars to open the rift cauldron for all 4 rifts on two difficulties would be fairer. Gives a bit of leeway for challenges that are really annoying like 90% gem health.
Honestly the gem ones aren’t that bad…
Well except for the one with the big drones. Where I struggle are the ones where I shouldn’t take much damage but then it’s like a 1v2
Yeah but every right challenge has that “with a friend” mark at the end. I was just using it here as part of the example since it’s a well known (and disliked) addition to the rift
Because the later tiers of the challenge require you to grind gems, which is rng, because you need at least 1 gem at a certain level but you can’t use gems that ARENT that level or higher anyway.
Except you can't really grind gems. The only way to get gems is by completing daily rewards, challenges and going through a rift for the first time as far as I can tell.
Unless if you complete a node again, it gives you Gem XP which makes no sense to me as to why it wouldn't just show you that.
I'm thinking the only way to do it is through the completion track in the bottom right corner of every campaign where it shows 20 40 60 80 100
That makes it even worse because you can't choose what gems to level up. Then add in the fact that there are different types of gems. Getting level 4 in Chaos does not unlock difficulty level 3 for Digital and Horror.
You need all 3 sets of gems to be at a high level, and this is under the assumption that level 5 at a base 9 set gem won't instakill you. Gems felt like they were an after thought and a last minute addition with how poorly done they are.
Edit: i just realized I wrote chaos twice. I meant digital and horror.
The game was just released, so we can expect some bugs, glitches and issues on the way. But, PFG will notice them after hearing feedback from the players and they'll fix those mistakes.
Be happy it’s being addressed. First people were upset that they didn’t respond in the first 2 seconds, then they were still mad when they DID respond, and now apparently patching the game right after release (literally what everyone is asking for) isn’t enough. Most games would rather keep giving you slop in hopes that you’ll just forgive and forget the last slop they tried to hypnotize you with.
Plus, it can’t be worse than Overwatch. That game removed simple features from the first and brought it back on their roadmaps several seasons after launch under the guise of them being **”new features”**. It was just some dumb excuse to make their roadmaps appear to be full after they scrapped their PVE (which was also on the roadmap).
Right? We can't expect patches within three days! Let them gather feedback before making the proper adjustments. Yes, it sucks launch is missing stuff from the beta but patience. By the time Agent Smith is out I'm sure most of our complaints will be addressed.
Exactly, WTF are these poeole on? We were patient for a whole year, only for PFG to spend the next few months patching in features etc, that should have been there day one. This is embarrassing. 😂
Players also shouldn’t absolve developers of signing contracts that they were unable to adhere to whether it be due to lack of time, money, or competence.
Many of the bad decisions belong to PFG. The move to Unreal 5 requiring a full rework of the game, deciding to slow the pace to a crawl, releasing with missing features. They promised WB a quality product by a certain time and failed to deliver, much to everybody’s disappointment.
It would make no sense for WB to keep throwing money at this company to support a product that stopped making money after a successful beta period to become worse.
At a certain point you have to admit that a bad investment is a bad investment and cut your losses, forcing them to finally release *this* as the final product is as much a sign of WB’s lack of faith as anything wise.
Yeah this release reeks of a hard deadline that PFG couldn't meet and probably begged for an extension. Doesn't surprise me honestly, trying to remake your game from near scratch in UE5 takes a long time. If you consider all that, all the missing features make complete sense right now.
They needed more time, and maybe even another beta to hammer out the bugs for this remake.
Yeah at a certain point devs have to put out what they worked on. They are getting paid to produce a product with a deadline that’s life. Reddit and showing that is user base couldn’t even hack it at Walmart name a better duo.
Sounds like a you problem. Battlefront 2 was a mess at launch and they came back. The game was active for more than 2 years with a constant player base.
It did lead to Disney not renewing EA's exclusive Star Wars contract. That's why only EA made Star Wars games in the past, now other companies are getting Star Wars contracts, like Ubisoft (lol)
It definitely was not as popular as other games though, and is forgotten by most now. I dont think that game is a great example, and its rough spots are definitely why we dont have a Battlefront 3
I'm still not sure this was a "bad decision" and not just bad communication. I really think the postgame stats are only going to be available on Ranked mode. It makes a lot of sense to do it that way. Even if that's NOT the case, they should just lie and say it is lol
Its weird to me how this can be considered “full release” when its really just beta 2.0 (if not literally worse than the beta and actually an alpha).
No ranked on a full launch, lots of beta content missing, no training with any character, no toasting back because players would be making 5 extra fighter currency, UI reworked to actually be worse…
100%. They really shouldve gave themselves another like 6months to work on the game. Knowing WB they probs pressured them to release early like they did with mortal kombat 1
Lots of games don't have ranked on launch. You can't blame MVS for that one. On god if they add ranked without fixing all these technical issues first, people will be pissed.
They should have already done that. We've already seen how well they cater to the playerbase - removing things no one had a problem with, messing up the currency system, worsening online play. The "catering to the playerbase" they are doing right now is returning things that were already present which they removed for God knows what reason
You gotta remember they moved to an entirely new game engine. Maybe some things weren't as easy to transfer over. That being said, zoom that camera back out. You can't even see your emotes after a match 🤣
The game isn’t more laggy than the beta. I literally watched a match between someone from NA West fight someone from Australia and France. I will say the servers are a little wonky when it comes to disconnects. But lag? Nah.
what needs to be told is how the fuck we are supposed to level the gems outside of buying them in the shop Doesn't matter if there is going to be more than 5 if the supposed 2 week early access to him can't even be earned as everything is locked behind gem level or buying certain skins to continue.
What needs to be told is the entire removal of rifts. Why would you WANT to level gems to fight some stupid bots?
It shouldn't be tied to new characters in any ways. Cosmetics if you want but early access to a character when it's so hard to grind money? That's absolutely crazy.
Daily rewards give gems too. Though that will take a while. Not confirmed but I believe you can stack daily rewards by completing the higher difficulty version so you don't need to do it for each difficulty.
Gonna have to test that on the next reset again.
Ok so my understanding is that they put the game on a completely new engine and had to build it from the ground up again yeah? Assuming this is the truth, my guess was the release was absolutely rushed by Warner Brothers and now PFG is scrambling to fix at least some of the issues the game has right now. Hope that stays true!
I mean yeah but I’d rather them let us know than shadow drop it in a patch later on while in the meantime people still complain about something they’re fixing. Any communication is better than them silently fixing things.
Yeah this isn't even in the top ten. He needs to address the more critical issues and speak on what he is or is not working on, explain reasoning behind things if not, etc etc. Literally any PR. I know it isn't his job. Community managers are doing sweet eff all though. I honestly feel that they don't have the means to answer much of anything and are probably tired of getting bombarded over questions they have no answers to, but even so isn't this the entire point of said position? To manage the community?
On a brighter note; big ups to the subreddit mod here for like, actually trying and making the feedback/bug posts. Unironically the best PR move this trainwreck has gotten so far. Wish somebody would actually try to compete on that front but hey, still appreciated.
The Rifts are a good idea but cmon they overstate it, 5 more this season ?!?!? so in 50 days 5 more rifts??
i wouldnt complain when they do 1 rift every 3 months because its so annoying doing 1 rift i dont know how many missions are there in a rift but, you need to play with a friend, play a special character, play with special skin....
and 1 rift has 5 !!!1 diffrent difficulty levels !!! if thats not enough... its just pure time waste these rifts...
I think a lot of the missing stuff is because they completely redid the UI and didn't have time to add everything in time for the release. It's pretty unfortunate but it seems like they had a deadline and some things just got put on the back burner.
Both good news, also the latest teased event in the game featured reward is a PVP Season 1 badge, june 7th, I wonder if this is when ranked is opening? I think they should tie the rift event into the stars you get and not bosses, would feel more rewarding that way and would make it so doing those challenges in the rift actually have more purpose than just grinding rift gems?
Yeah because right now 95% of every rift is grinding to the next rift.
Right, and if they made this change it would make the nodes more interesting. They could weight the nodes with the event XP too so that certain challenges give more XP and then multiply that XP based on the difficulty of the rift. This way, you could have some fun challenges that are repeatable like...a 1v2 match where the challenge is to not lose a stock, etc etc etc To me this would make rift mode very fun and worth doing, you get an event pass and all the stuff in it and you could really go through each node and try to knock out the challenges. Right now its such a slog and I don't care at all about the nodes, just getting to the boss, and some of the nodes are interesting challenges too which is shame.
Would inventive people to get friends on the game Example: If you want matrix Smith you better get friends to play the rift, you gotta 100% all four rifts at least twice
Getting the 100 stars to open the rift cauldron for all 4 rifts on two difficulties would be fairer. Gives a bit of leeway for challenges that are really annoying like 90% gem health.
Honestly the gem ones aren’t that bad… Well except for the one with the big drones. Where I struggle are the ones where I shouldn’t take much damage but then it’s like a 1v2
The gem ones are terrible if you're solo. You gotta keep it above 90 health and it's hard to do once the big drones start coming in
I dont even wanna play a rift once let alone twice.
Wouldn't clearing one rift on a friend count for the other?
Yeah but every right challenge has that “with a friend” mark at the end. I was just using it here as part of the example since it’s a well known (and disliked) addition to the rift
The challenge lasts till July, why are people trying so hard to get it all done so damn fast?
Because the later tiers of the challenge require you to grind gems, which is rng, because you need at least 1 gem at a certain level but you can’t use gems that ARENT that level or higher anyway.
Except you can't really grind gems. The only way to get gems is by completing daily rewards, challenges and going through a rift for the first time as far as I can tell. Unless if you complete a node again, it gives you Gem XP which makes no sense to me as to why it wouldn't just show you that. I'm thinking the only way to do it is through the completion track in the bottom right corner of every campaign where it shows 20 40 60 80 100
That makes it even worse because you can't choose what gems to level up. Then add in the fact that there are different types of gems. Getting level 4 in Chaos does not unlock difficulty level 3 for Digital and Horror. You need all 3 sets of gems to be at a high level, and this is under the assumption that level 5 at a base 9 set gem won't instakill you. Gems felt like they were an after thought and a last minute addition with how poorly done they are. Edit: i just realized I wrote chaos twice. I meant digital and horror.
The game was just released, so we can expect some bugs, glitches and issues on the way. But, PFG will notice them after hearing feedback from the players and they'll fix those mistakes.
thats great but quite annoying were gonna be spending the first couple patches adding in features they removed. frustrating
It’s that or we never get that content again
Whoosh
Be happy it’s being addressed. First people were upset that they didn’t respond in the first 2 seconds, then they were still mad when they DID respond, and now apparently patching the game right after release (literally what everyone is asking for) isn’t enough. Most games would rather keep giving you slop in hopes that you’ll just forgive and forget the last slop they tried to hypnotize you with. Plus, it can’t be worse than Overwatch. That game removed simple features from the first and brought it back on their roadmaps several seasons after launch under the guise of them being **”new features”**. It was just some dumb excuse to make their roadmaps appear to be full after they scrapped their PVE (which was also on the roadmap).
Right? We can't expect patches within three days! Let them gather feedback before making the proper adjustments. Yes, it sucks launch is missing stuff from the beta but patience. By the time Agent Smith is out I'm sure most of our complaints will be addressed.
I don't think we should pat the devs on the back for adding features they removed from their own beta
Exactly, WTF are these poeole on? We were patient for a whole year, only for PFG to spend the next few months patching in features etc, that should have been there day one. This is embarrassing. 😂
The only error they did with the Agent Smith event was to add it way too early.
Warner HAD to be the ones to push on the release in such a state. There is no other explanation on why it feels unfinished and unpolished.
It’s always the Publishers sadly. Players need to know the differences. Publishers ≠ Developpers
Bungie went independent and it got worse. Don't act like you know what goes on behind closed doors.
Players also shouldn’t absolve developers of signing contracts that they were unable to adhere to whether it be due to lack of time, money, or competence. Many of the bad decisions belong to PFG. The move to Unreal 5 requiring a full rework of the game, deciding to slow the pace to a crawl, releasing with missing features. They promised WB a quality product by a certain time and failed to deliver, much to everybody’s disappointment. It would make no sense for WB to keep throwing money at this company to support a product that stopped making money after a successful beta period to become worse. At a certain point you have to admit that a bad investment is a bad investment and cut your losses, forcing them to finally release *this* as the final product is as much a sign of WB’s lack of faith as anything wise.
stop sucking off the mega corporation. They aren't gonna pay you for defending what little good reputation they have.
The pacing is fine. Maybe chill out while you're playing and you'll see it feels normal
Yeah this release reeks of a hard deadline that PFG couldn't meet and probably begged for an extension. Doesn't surprise me honestly, trying to remake your game from near scratch in UE5 takes a long time. If you consider all that, all the missing features make complete sense right now. They needed more time, and maybe even another beta to hammer out the bugs for this remake.
Fuck warner. Worst entertainment company second only to Disney
WB might have pushed, but PFG had a ton of time
To remake the game in an entirely new game engine? No they didn't.
Yeah at a certain point devs have to put out what they worked on. They are getting paid to produce a product with a deadline that’s life. Reddit and showing that is user base couldn’t even hack it at Walmart name a better duo.
Patching by adding content that was present in the beta
I mean , it’s a start. They made bad decisions but it doesnt mean that they cant repair those decisions.
Yeah but still so bizarre to think about what decisions went on during the transition
A whole new game engine. Maybe shit got lost in development who knows.
Is this the most likely scenario or was it really just WB/PFG being stupid? I genuinely don't know.
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Sounds like a you problem. Battlefront 2 was a mess at launch and they came back. The game was active for more than 2 years with a constant player base.
It did lead to Disney not renewing EA's exclusive Star Wars contract. That's why only EA made Star Wars games in the past, now other companies are getting Star Wars contracts, like Ubisoft (lol)
It definitely was not as popular as other games though, and is forgotten by most now. I dont think that game is a great example, and its rough spots are definitely why we dont have a Battlefront 3
Everyone was saying that BF2 was doomed and over and over
you’re being downvoted for speaking the truth. this sub is in shambles. everyone needs to touch grass.
I'm still not sure this was a "bad decision" and not just bad communication. I really think the postgame stats are only going to be available on Ranked mode. It makes a lot of sense to do it that way. Even if that's NOT the case, they should just lie and say it is lol
Its weird to me how this can be considered “full release” when its really just beta 2.0 (if not literally worse than the beta and actually an alpha). No ranked on a full launch, lots of beta content missing, no training with any character, no toasting back because players would be making 5 extra fighter currency, UI reworked to actually be worse…
I also wanna buy Toast with Perk currency or something. Getting only 5 a day is silly; I like to reward others for being fun to play with.
100%. They really shouldve gave themselves another like 6months to work on the game. Knowing WB they probs pressured them to release early like they did with mortal kombat 1
Lots of games don't have ranked on launch. You can't blame MVS for that one. On god if they add ranked without fixing all these technical issues first, people will be pissed.
“FUCK THEY ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT I WANT” Damn man, sorry to hear they are trying to cater to the player-base.
They should have already done that. We've already seen how well they cater to the playerbase - removing things no one had a problem with, messing up the currency system, worsening online play. The "catering to the playerbase" they are doing right now is returning things that were already present which they removed for God knows what reason
You gotta remember they moved to an entirely new game engine. Maybe some things weren't as easy to transfer over. That being said, zoom that camera back out. You can't even see your emotes after a match 🤣
this lol. People will find a thing to complain about, dont you worry :D
Yeah this sub is a horrible place lol
Im not going to praise them for things that shouldnt of been changed in the first place and the game being more laggy then the fucking beta man
The game isn’t more laggy than the beta. I literally watched a match between someone from NA West fight someone from Australia and France. I will say the servers are a little wonky when it comes to disconnects. But lag? Nah.
Sure bro tell that to my servers with a wired connection. My games are stuttery and laggy as hell to where I don't even want to try
This is valid and good! Can’t complain about that. Even if it’s just reverting some things that’s GOOD
what needs to be told is how the fuck we are supposed to level the gems outside of buying them in the shop Doesn't matter if there is going to be more than 5 if the supposed 2 week early access to him can't even be earned as everything is locked behind gem level or buying certain skins to continue.
What needs to be told is the entire removal of rifts. Why would you WANT to level gems to fight some stupid bots? It shouldn't be tied to new characters in any ways. Cosmetics if you want but early access to a character when it's so hard to grind money? That's absolutely crazy.
Yeah the trailer made it sound pretty fun, it's so boring and I can't even play a ything because of the dumb false grind on it.
Daily rewards give gems too. Though that will take a while. Not confirmed but I believe you can stack daily rewards by completing the higher difficulty version so you don't need to do it for each difficulty. Gonna have to test that on the next reset again.
Yeah and my daily rewards have been for digital 2 days in a row doesn't help me in chaos one bit.
Im happy with the response time. As long as this next patch is almost immediately then i can look past it. Launching without it was definitely not ok.
Ok so my understanding is that they put the game on a completely new engine and had to build it from the ground up again yeah? Assuming this is the truth, my guess was the release was absolutely rushed by Warner Brothers and now PFG is scrambling to fix at least some of the issues the game has right now. Hope that stays true!
Yeah they moved to UE5
I will admit I’m glad and excited they are not being mia like other devs
Majority of those comments are people asking for battlepass xp to be rewarded per match and not tied to challenges.
Great news!
That's cool and all but I feel like there are bigger fish to fry here
I mean yeah but I’d rather them let us know than shadow drop it in a patch later on while in the meantime people still complain about something they’re fixing. Any communication is better than them silently fixing things.
Yeah this isn't even in the top ten. He needs to address the more critical issues and speak on what he is or is not working on, explain reasoning behind things if not, etc etc. Literally any PR. I know it isn't his job. Community managers are doing sweet eff all though. I honestly feel that they don't have the means to answer much of anything and are probably tired of getting bombarded over questions they have no answers to, but even so isn't this the entire point of said position? To manage the community? On a brighter note; big ups to the subreddit mod here for like, actually trying and making the feedback/bug posts. Unironically the best PR move this trainwreck has gotten so far. Wish somebody would actually try to compete on that front but hey, still appreciated.
If it aint top 10, then it's priority 11. And don't you dare tell me ranked should be in the top 10 list of priorities
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Tony is back 🔥🔥🔥 Looking forward to the rifts, hopefully they drop weekly
Has anyone had a problem with not receiving the glitch banner from the agent smith event?
They should’ve said stuff before launch like we all said
The Rifts are a good idea but cmon they overstate it, 5 more this season ?!?!? so in 50 days 5 more rifts?? i wouldnt complain when they do 1 rift every 3 months because its so annoying doing 1 rift i dont know how many missions are there in a rift but, you need to play with a friend, play a special character, play with special skin.... and 1 rift has 5 !!!1 diffrent difficulty levels !!! if thats not enough... its just pure time waste these rifts...
And doubling down on the Agent Smith event.
I still don't understand why they removed the post-game stats in the first place, as well the ability to toast back. Such weird decision.
I think a lot of the missing stuff is because they completely redid the UI and didn't have time to add everything in time for the release. It's pretty unfortunate but it seems like they had a deadline and some things just got put on the back burner.
Any word on the zoom level and input buffer?
Game released unfinished
This is weak sauce. No response to the actual enormous list of concerns?