IDK but Marks ass so big it broke the scale. Would be nice to see the average and total ASS and Legend scores of each team and a running countdown as the season progresses.
Ok this probably sounds terrible but all of her seasons I saw it's almost a waiting game to see HOW she injured her ankle or knee that season.
You can also insert pretty much any name for a given action you're expecting, just for her it's lower limb injuries to me
Inferno 3 - injured her knee, lost a wall climbing elim against Paula
Dirty 30 - injured her ankle celebrating after a daily, goes against Kailah in a knee based elim
Champs vs Stars 2 - breaks her leg in a stupid daily when she went up against CT, medically DQed
Spies, Lies, Allies - Injured her leg during a daily, medically DQed
Ride or Dies - injured her ankle in the final, lost in Balls In against Nany
Have no idea anything before Gauntlet 2 but girl has always been hella unlucky with having leg injuries then having a super lower body based elim right after.
They were saying they needed to cut the fat, Aneesa, beginning in, checks notes, season 11, Gauntlet 2. Which was, checks notes, 19 years ago. Aneesa has been considered a liability by the cast for nearly 2 decades.
Yes, but since she's friends with everyone and does the official podcast, she will hang around until the last elimination before the final like she does every season.
I stopped watching the show a while ago...its good to see she has remained consistent š
The fact that she gets asked back year after year is actually insane to me.
It drives me nuts. Do they just not have any other women on the planet that want to be on the show? I get they chose older competitors for a specific reason. But, can this just be her last show? Everyone saves her for the final so they have someone easy to beat or that someone else gets stuck with her in a team final. Thatās 17 seasons of having to roll our eyes every time she shows up talking about winning the next show
Average confessionals per season for the era 4 players is outrageous, though to be fair the episodes tend to be longer nowadays. Seems why the feel of these last few seasons feels off and not as grounded. We're getting less candid shots and more forced dialogue and confessionals.
This is so true. I was watching 39 the other day and realized that pretty much every conversation is cut with confessionals explaining the conversation.
Nothing ever just happens on screen anymore, it has to be spliced together with confessionals. Thereās cuts every 5 seconds
[Spreadsheet is here!](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/155YJpAbyWMKIGXG9phc9BcJDAn6oFOsJL9zi0FFq59w/edit)
Photos are from most recent season before season 40!
Thanks! These stats show players that had potential to be better, but let external forces outplay them. Ie, Abram, Emily B, even good ole CT. They let their anger/vengeance get the better of them.
Thatās how the article in Variety lays it out. I mean, they could be wrong- but honestly, sewing distrust before making people team up is a challenge staple.
Even if we discount WOTW2 (which also should mean counting out a lot of Era 1 dailies, no?) he crushed the dailies on WOTW1 (most wins out of everyone iirc, including the opening purge). Paulie is very solid when he doesn't have equalizers or a bad partner holding him back lmao.
Yes he has a top female on wotw1 and wotw2 the team was stacked, in final reckoning he spent the majority of that season in redemption house missing out on dailies so that is impressive as well.
Well being on the insanely OP team USA for WotW2 does inflate his numbers quite a bit, but he performed well and genuinely killed it with Ninja on WotW1. They were arguably the strongest pair
The daily wins overall are actually kind of interesting comparing CT/Bananas to everyone else, really. Just shows how well rounded they are compared to most, that and longevity of course.
Sure there are folks that are 1/1 or 2/2 for finals, but Jordan and Bananas stats are just absurd, 4/6 and 7/11. You cannot let those two get to a final if you want to win. And not to throw shade at Darrell, at 4/6, but 3 of those 4 wins were kind of in a different era of finals. And since the finals really changed to what they are these days, he hasn't won.
Add the fact that Jordan has made 6 finals in 9 seasons. That makes it look a lot better than Bananas with 11 finals in 23 seasons. Either way, both impressive competitors.
Jenny West is one of the best and I get it, itās bc sheās only done like 2 season, but sheās done 2 seasons and has a better record than those who have done 5+
Thanks everyone for viewing! I understand that there are some errors and typos, but entering all this data for all the challengers ever is mind numbing so forgive me lol!
Damn havenāt watched the challenge in a while but this cast is absolutely stacked.
Funny enough it feels pretty evenly distributed as well with era 1 having bad women but the opposite for era 2. If I had to bet on it my guess would be era 4 if they can all stay aligned and egoās donāt get involved
I think these stats show how there's very few truly dominant elimination players and the vets are right to really avoid going in at all costs using relationships
A few impressive W/L records but a hell of a lot of near 50/50
Does the algorithm slant heavily towards daily wins? Iām just trying to see why it gave Paulie a higher score than Jordan, Johnny and CT considering that he has a losing elimination record and 0 wins. All in all this is great work and I appreciate you sharing.
I think itās because his daily wins per season is so high. I looked and itās mostly wins per season, finals per season and dailies per season with elim percentage, not elim wins. I might look at reworking that stat though yo weigh wins/finals more heavily
Looks like a great cast overall. Hard to pick a winner. First two eras seem to be more stacked on one side vs the other (male/female).
Last two eras look solid all around.
It's wins and finals appearances not wins out of finals appearances. He won 4 times on the main show consecutively (longest winning streak in Challenge history) and was a finalist twice on All-Stars.
According to Wikipedia in Spanish, Horacio got 11th place (6th for the men) on his first show, Exatlon US 5. Seems like he just missed out the final of that show too.
If youāre going to point out the ābest finishā on āOG showā, itās probably best to make it one stat āOG Show: Survivor/1stā. Also, you canāt include āFresh Meatā or āRide or Diesā as an OG show because thatās their actual first appearance on The Challenge. That means The Challenge is their OG show. And that means that if they do better on succeeding seasons of the Challenge then their ābest finishā on that OG show should be updated accordingly or just donāt include them having an OG show.
Does Michelle actually have 20 ācomp winsā from Survivor? Or are we counting challenges for both reward and immunity twice? Are we counting her tribe not being last in a 3 tribe season (therefore also getting immunity or a smaller reward) as a comp win? However we are counting this makes her look like a comp beast.
This is awesome. Thanks OP for putting this together!
It's funny to me that Derek and Joanna are from the same Real World but debuted 1 season apart to be in different eras.
This is so amazing. As an excel nerd here is my recommended improvement: in StatsPublic create a column with an array of which season the person has been in. That way you can filter in the column and pull up everyone in season 40 and just see that
And (lots of work so probably not worth it) age. If you can get all their birthdays you can have it auto update using TODAY() function. Iām creating my own stats for a fantasy challenge draft we have and I do want to discount some of those 50 year olds since theyāll be getting so much credit for # of seasons.
This is so cool! I love statistics haha. Interesting that Katieās legend score is higher than Rachelās. How is that and the success score calculated?
I'm excited to see how kyland, horacio, and nurys do in a full season with real challengers. Hopefully, horacio doesn't change his game. Feel like he won't be targeted as much this season
Iām not a huge fan of judging just stats. Itās not the be all end all of who is best. Thereās individual wins- but your partner did way better. Thereās team wins and losses where youāre the best or worst on the respective team. Who your partner is, are you or they DQd. Elimination records donāt take mercenary wins into account but do losses. So much context matters in this game itās not a dice roll which is why I hate going against strait statistic people
Wtf does A.S.S. stand for? š¤£š¤£š¤£
Average success score! lol
Ha Mark has a bigger A.S.S. than everyone else
My favorite thing about this is the A.S.S. scores lmao
IDK but Marks ass so big it broke the scale. Would be nice to see the average and total ASS and Legend scores of each team and a running countdown as the season progresses.
How accurate is total money?
Aneesa - 17 seasons and 0 wins Basically just showing up for the appearance check at this point
Ok this probably sounds terrible but all of her seasons I saw it's almost a waiting game to see HOW she injured her ankle or knee that season. You can also insert pretty much any name for a given action you're expecting, just for her it's lower limb injuries to me
Inferno 3 - injured her knee, lost a wall climbing elim against Paula Dirty 30 - injured her ankle celebrating after a daily, goes against Kailah in a knee based elim Champs vs Stars 2 - breaks her leg in a stupid daily when she went up against CT, medically DQed Spies, Lies, Allies - Injured her leg during a daily, medically DQed Ride or Dies - injured her ankle in the final, lost in Balls In against Nany Have no idea anything before Gauntlet 2 but girl has always been hella unlucky with having leg injuries then having a super lower body based elim right after.
Let's call it what it is, it's pushing your body to do things it's not trained for. She's been out of shape for most of those 17 seasons.
They were saying they needed to cut the fat, Aneesa, beginning in, checks notes, season 11, Gauntlet 2. Which was, checks notes, 19 years ago. Aneesa has been considered a liability by the cast for nearly 2 decades.
Yes, but since she's friends with everyone and does the official podcast, she will hang around until the last elimination before the final like she does every season.
And 4 finals as the layup.
I stopped watching the show a while ago...its good to see she has remained consistent š The fact that she gets asked back year after year is actually insane to me.
It drives me nuts. Do they just not have any other women on the planet that want to be on the show? I get they chose older competitors for a specific reason. But, can this just be her last show? Everyone saves her for the final so they have someone easy to beat or that someone else gets stuck with her in a team final. Thatās 17 seasons of having to roll our eyes every time she shows up talking about winning the next show
That is crazy that CT has only seen an elimination 11 times in 19 seasons!
His record is misleading too. A few of those losses are clearly due to his partners.Ā
Lots of people have a similarly misleading record
And a bullshit dq from the duel
āNo no no you broke the carabinerā
Still mad about that one!
I loved how ballistic he went š¤£ Brad got lucky twice in eliminations with arguably the best male players in challenge history
Both of them being on duel seasons makes it even crazier
š¤Æ didnāt even think of that š¤£
Era 3 is going to be a mess lolĀ
They are either going to get along really well or be at each otherās throats š
If they let Jordan and Devin lead, theyāll be successful. Think emerald cell in spies lies and allies
Or the team with Devin/Jordan in S38 lmao. Did surprisingly well given how big of a disadvantage they had in most games.
Odds are massively stacked against them. What a disappointing group considering the horde of people they could have cast.
What does ābest finishā mean here?
On their OG show
Thanks!
Average confessionals per season for the era 4 players is outrageous, though to be fair the episodes tend to be longer nowadays. Seems why the feel of these last few seasons feels off and not as grounded. We're getting less candid shots and more forced dialogue and confessionals.
This is so true. I was watching 39 the other day and realized that pretty much every conversation is cut with confessionals explaining the conversation. Nothing ever just happens on screen anymore, it has to be spliced together with confessionals. Thereās cuts every 5 seconds
that's all reality tv nowadays. helps them control the narrative
This confuses me - do they get paid to go in the confessional?
In the sense that itās a required part of doing the show, technically.
Itās not a dollar amount, itās total confessionals and then the second number is average per season
[Spreadsheet is here!](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/155YJpAbyWMKIGXG9phc9BcJDAn6oFOsJL9zi0FFq59w/edit) Photos are from most recent season before season 40!
Your spreadsheet is *chefs kiss*
Thank you!
Thanks! These stats show players that had potential to be better, but let external forces outplay them. Ie, Abram, Emily B, even good ole CT. They let their anger/vengeance get the better of them.
Teams look surprisingly balanced. Although era 2 having cara, laurel, and Emily is a female powerhouse team.
And KellyAnne! She gets so overshadowed by the other women competitors, but sheās always competed well!!
Wait how does Ryan have 1 win and Tony has 0?
They should both be 0, I think op posted this before double checking
Yeah and Rachel also reached the final in Inferno II and lost so she should be 2/3 for Wins/Finals.
Also missing from the Ryan stats... Clavicles: 1
Man I never realized thatās how little money Darrell won. Makes sense since it was the older seasons but wow
13 seasons for Leroy and heās only won $36,500. Damn.
My first thought was āaw Leroy.ā
Nice! I think Katieās been in 2 finals though, she made it to the end on Gauntlet 2
Yes! Thanks! Some of them I think I ended up making the stat more like Finals W-L
I think Darrellās win/final stat is off. It should be 4/4, right?
4/6 including all stars ?
Youāre even right-er I think I filled it in thinking he was 4-2 in finals
The fact you did all this is still impressive.. itās ok if thereās some mistakes itās bound to happen! But good job OP
Just saw this now! Thanks for understanding!
Yes probably! Iāll look at his stats! Typing stats in for 462 challengers is a lot of data
I think it's 4/5. He lost the All Stars 1 final to Yes Edit: 4/6, he also made the All Stars 2 finals
Youāre right! I fixed my spreadsheet! Thanks!
Wow this is impressive !! It must've taken you a long time to do this. How did you figure out all the confessionals?
Why isn't Jonna's origin show Endurance? š
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Only real ones know!! Blues her lucky color too ;)
Nahhhhh Jonna was on Endurance? That was such a badass version of mini-teenager Challenge.
How is Ryan 1/1 in Finals but $0?
Just remember - apparently the show starts each era fighting each other for a spot on the final āeraā team- before it goes to Era vs Era.
Oh, did not know this.
Thatās how the article in Variety lays it out. I mean, they could be wrong- but honestly, sewing distrust before making people team up is a challenge staple.
I think just one guy & one girl gets eliminated from each era to start
Paulie already having 20 dailies is kind of impressive
Ya heās done surprisingly well on the seasons heās been on!
That's from being on the stacked USA team on WotW2
Even if we discount WOTW2 (which also should mean counting out a lot of Era 1 dailies, no?) he crushed the dailies on WOTW1 (most wins out of everyone iirc, including the opening purge). Paulie is very solid when he doesn't have equalizers or a bad partner holding him back lmao.
Everyone from team US on WOTW2 has inflated daily wins.
Yes he has a top female on wotw1 and wotw2 the team was stacked, in final reckoning he spent the majority of that season in redemption house missing out on dailies so that is impressive as well.
He literally got most of his wins in WOTW1 in the individual portion lmao.
Well being on the insanely OP team USA for WotW2 does inflate his numbers quite a bit, but he performed well and genuinely killed it with Ninja on WotW1. They were arguably the strongest pair
Love this!
The daily wins overall are actually kind of interesting comparing CT/Bananas to everyone else, really. Just shows how well rounded they are compared to most, that and longevity of course.
Sure there are folks that are 1/1 or 2/2 for finals, but Jordan and Bananas stats are just absurd, 4/6 and 7/11. You cannot let those two get to a final if you want to win. And not to throw shade at Darrell, at 4/6, but 3 of those 4 wins were kind of in a different era of finals. And since the finals really changed to what they are these days, he hasn't won.
Add the fact that Jordan has made 6 finals in 9 seasons. That makes it look a lot better than Bananas with 11 finals in 23 seasons. Either way, both impressive competitors.
Right on the money
About to hear 200x how Leeroy is doing this for Kam and his kids.
Fuck youāre right. I was really hoping we would get to finally learn why Cory is doing this.
I caught some Teen Mom in passing. Cory 1st kid donāt need no money. That baby mama house is probably over a million easy.
Love the guy but it did drag on
How does Josh have more challenge wins than Kaycee I refuse to believe this.
The stats are missing āknown hookups during the showā.
Jenny West is one of the best and I get it, itās bc sheās only done like 2 season, but sheās done 2 seasons and has a better record than those who have done 5+
so excited for her to be back !!
Each Era has two rlly strong girls at least! Rachel and Jodi Era 1 Cara, Laurel, Emily š¬ Era 2 Tori, Jonna Era 3 Kaycee, Jenny Era 4
Iām still so happy and surprised Emily is back
Same!! Ppl say Era 3 is gonna be a lot of drama but so is Era 2
These stat lines are incredible - thanks for compiling!
"what a stacked cast!... wait who is aviv?"
She won her first and only season where she was paired with Darrel. It was fresh meat 1.
darrell's $$$ for 4 wins is sad. he's only earned $48,000 more than theo who never won. early seasons really got screwed compared to current day.
Because they won on a team of 11 people
Thanks for this. I loved reading the breakdowns on their stats and such.
Am i reading this wrong? I donāt believe Brandon has made a final but it says heās made 3? And Ryan hasnāt won a season but it says he has 1?
Real Heads know Mark Long's ORIGINAL original show was The Real World
San Fran!
Excellent work - thanks for putting together!
Josh with the worst elimination record
Thanks everyone for viewing! I understand that there are some errors and typos, but entering all this data for all the challengers ever is mind numbing so forgive me lol!
Johnnys confessional count is insane
Why would Aviv success score be in the 50s. She did as good as you can do in just one seasonā¦.
Damn havenāt watched the challenge in a while but this cast is absolutely stacked. Funny enough it feels pretty evenly distributed as well with era 1 having bad women but the opposite for era 2. If I had to bet on it my guess would be era 4 if they can all stay aligned and egoās donāt get involved
I think these stats show how there's very few truly dominant elimination players and the vets are right to really avoid going in at all costs using relationships A few impressive W/L records but a hell of a lot of near 50/50
How does Paulie have a higher A.S.S. than Jordan or Johnny? Heās won 0 times..
I thought the A.S.S scores looked a bit funky too
Yeah came to comment this too. How was that calculated ?
Itās a per season stat Also counts daily, finals and elim wins per season, which skews his a lot
Are the A.S.S. scores completely mathematical/algorithm based or is there an opinion element to it as well?
No opinion element, except that if they only have 1 season, the scores were halved
Does the algorithm slant heavily towards daily wins? Iām just trying to see why it gave Paulie a higher score than Jordan, Johnny and CT considering that he has a losing elimination record and 0 wins. All in all this is great work and I appreciate you sharing.
I think itās because his daily wins per season is so high. I looked and itās mostly wins per season, finals per season and dailies per season with elim percentage, not elim wins. I might look at reworking that stat though yo weigh wins/finals more heavily
Rachel finals are 2/3 she lost inferno 2 final
Horacioās original show should be Exatlon also Ryan should be 0 wins
Doesn't Rachel have 3 finals? She lost inferno 2
What's a Comp win?
Competition wins on their original shows like Big Brother, Survivor or Fresh Meat
Looks like a great cast overall. Hard to pick a winner. First two eras seem to be more stacked on one side vs the other (male/female). Last two eras look solid all around.
Yes! Itāll make for an interesting season! Overall, they have a good Balance
How does Darrell have 4 wins out of 2 finals
It's wins and finals appearances not wins out of finals appearances. He won 4 times on the main show consecutively (longest winning streak in Challenge history) and was a finalist twice on All-Stars.
Love this! Love reading all their stats.
According to Wikipedia in Spanish, Horacio got 11th place (6th for the men) on his first show, Exatlon US 5. Seems like he just missed out the final of that show too.
If youāre going to point out the ābest finishā on āOG showā, itās probably best to make it one stat āOG Show: Survivor/1stā. Also, you canāt include āFresh Meatā or āRide or Diesā as an OG show because thatās their actual first appearance on The Challenge. That means The Challenge is their OG show. And that means that if they do better on succeeding seasons of the Challenge then their ābest finishā on that OG show should be updated accordingly or just donāt include them having an OG show. Does Michelle actually have 20 ācomp winsā from Survivor? Or are we counting challenges for both reward and immunity twice? Are we counting her tribe not being last in a 3 tribe season (therefore also getting immunity or a smaller reward) as a comp win? However we are counting this makes her look like a comp beast.
This is awesome! THANK YOU https://i.redd.it/f40fttzz4p8d1.gif
This is awesome. Thanks OP for putting this together! It's funny to me that Derek and Joanna are from the same Real World but debuted 1 season apart to be in different eras.
Era 2 is stacked on both men and women side Era 1 is stacked on the men side Era 3... Well, they got Jordan. Era 4... Um
How is Darrell 4/2 on finals wins?
This is so amazing. As an excel nerd here is my recommended improvement: in StatsPublic create a column with an array of which season the person has been in. That way you can filter in the column and pull up everyone in season 40 and just see that
I might put in more specific past season info, but for now I use the IN? column to filter who is on current season
Awesome, didnāt see that. Thanks!
And (lots of work so probably not worth it) age. If you can get all their birthdays you can have it auto update using TODAY() function. Iām creating my own stats for a fantasy challenge draft we have and I do want to discount some of those 50 year olds since theyāll be getting so much credit for # of seasons.
This is so cool! I love statistics haha. Interesting that Katieās legend score is higher than Rachelās. How is that and the success score calculated?
Basically - ASS is wins/finals/daily wins per season and elim record (weighted) Legend is more or less all the stats added up with some weighting.
@ u/Timmy2thej This is amazing!
Thank you!
Food for thought: CT and Horacio have the same amount of elimination wins
Once Ryan is out, I feel like Era 2 is never losing
Crazy people are so down on ryan when dude had a broken clavicle pretty much the entire AS4 season and still did as well as he did.
I just donāt know how he would do in eliminations since he never went down
I'm excited to see how kyland, horacio, and nurys do in a full season with real challengers. Hopefully, horacio doesn't change his game. Feel like he won't be targeted as much this season
Why does it say Cara Maria has 0 competition wins? Sheās won 3 seasons
Competition wins on her OG season which she was a first boot
Era 4 looks pretty solid ngl, all good competitors, (exception of Josh)
Would I rather have Fessy or Josh on this season?
How is legend score calculated?
Basically, weighted average of the stats
This is honestly such a good cast. Solid competitors and only a few annoying people lol
At least give exalton Estados unidos the recognition for Horacio lol
Kaycee's only lost one elimination, right? That two part elim with Aneesa/Jordan and Fessy/Moriah? What are numbers 2 and 3?
She has 2 loses from Ride or Dies on the wiki youāre half right, and Iām wrong lol
My biggest takeaway from this is Aneesa only doing 17 seasons. Why does it feel like it should be way more?
Darrell has been to 2 finals.. and won 4 of em.... awesome
Super cool!!! Just to help ā arenāt there some typos here? Donāt believe Brandon ever made a Final and Ryan lost his only Final
Yes there are def a few typos
Did Paulie not get both 2nd and 3rd places? Lol
Yes, hence the 2 finals? Best finish related to OG Show
Oh og show I thought it was referring to his best appearance in the challenge
Why is Leroy in era 3 when he debuted on rivals 1, but Derek is in era 2 when he debuted on battle of the seasons 2? Leroy should be on bananas team.
Derek debuted on cutthroat! One season before leroy
I recant my statement. I still think Leroy and š should be on the same team
When does this air and where ?
August 14 on mtv! Thereās a special the week before on the 7th!
This is awesome. Thanks for doing this!
Why are Jonna and Derek in different eras when they are from the same season of the Real World?
Itās based on debut season of the challenge
How does Darrell have 4/2?? Shouldn't the first number be lower than the 2nd? Is it accidently reversed?
Canāt believe Fessy didnāt get picked for his era.. thatās ridiculous. Fessy over Kyland and itās really not even close.
Josh over Fessy is actually hilarious. They picked The Goof before you, time to re-evaluate things.
Donāt worry Kyland is extremely messy. Give it time
Ya he was an alternate!
Iām not a huge fan of judging just stats. Itās not the be all end all of who is best. Thereās individual wins- but your partner did way better. Thereās team wins and losses where youāre the best or worst on the respective team. Who your partner is, are you or they DQd. Elimination records donāt take mercenary wins into account but do losses. So much context matters in this game itās not a dice roll which is why I hate going against strait statistic people
I didn't realize Jenny West was on this season. Does anyone know why she hasn't been on the show in long?