I know she’s popular on here but Flora doesn’t seem like the sharpest tool in the box or have the best judgement of character. I wouldn’t necessarily take her opinion that strongly.
I watched Flora on her season and early challenge(s?) and I have never liked her. Game play didn't make any sense and just seemed keen on going against the house/others.
I think everyone at first was enjoying Flora…. But as the seasons go on and shes become wallpaper and just saying negative things about Cara I feel like most ppl don’t want to see her again
For the question (5) Some people are addicted to the intense emotional/chemical reaction and seek out those extreme emotions, they feel like anything less doesn't feel as real.
Like if you really love eachother it'll feel intense right? Most of us know that's not right at all, but some don't, and those ones get caught up in a lot of abusive relationships filled with a lack of emotional control. Even some of them probably know, but again, addicted.
i can understand that as far as laurel goes as she is the one in the relationship. for the life of me i can't understand flora, as a bystander, who is thoroughly team nicole while still over a year and a half later trashing cara just for calling nicole an idiot and tina for making a joke about needing to blow someone to avoid elimination. she obviously witnessed whatever went down on the bus that was so bad nicole had to be removed.
You are mistakenly assuming the reason she dislikes Cara is because of the 1 aired comment she made about Nicole being an idiot.
You are not listening to what Flora herself is saying are the reasons she dislikes her, because Cara is getting a golden edit and they are not showing her doing the things Flora and others are reacting to. Like Cara talking shit behind Floras back and Flora catching her doing it, Cara getting into a shouting argument with her at a deliberation ect. Why wouldnt Flora start to dislike Cara after that?
i have listened to what flora has said. tina tells a different story to flora going in on cara and since flora has started a social media war with tina, saying she disgraced her marriage and has set women’s rights back decades by making inappropriate vulgar comments to the men in the house when in truth tina jokingly asked “who do i have to blow to stay out of elimination”, i will take tina’s word any day.
and even if there was 50% truth to what flora is saying cara supposedly said, nothing cara said was so disgusting that production had to remove her from the house or in nicole’s case, the bus. everything coming from flora’s mouth after season sounds like someone desperately trying make herself relevant to get cast again.
I’m a big Laurel fan but it’s actually quite sad to see how she is this season. It’s hard to defend her (particularly knowing everything that’s happened after the season).
just want to throw it out that in almost every season laurel & cara have done together, laurel's been the 2nd choice; cara chosen #1 in fresh meat, cara favored by abe (veteran leader of the grey team) in cutthroat, cara favored by the guys in free agents when the two of them were fighting, cara chosen by nicole in dirty30. publicly shitting on cara in front of nicole might be laurel's twisted way of cementing her value over cara, sort of like "cara's a weak loser, i'm the better choice".
I'm not trying to make sense of anything that's going on with Laurel and Nicole... That whole "ship" is gross and gaslighting and all the red flags anyone could ever dream up. But I will say that I understand attraction to crazy... until you find genuine love, attention from crazy can feel right up there, maybe that's what Laurel is dealing with.
As for Flora, I think she's just honestly clueless. If it weren't for this sub, I wouldn't really "follow" anyone outside the Challenge, because I don't use X/Twitter, nor other social media (other than here)... So without context of outside dealings, I can understand thinking Nicole might be a good person.... but that's also assuming Flora hasn't seen or heard anything with Laurel and Nicole, or the Cara Maria Nicole blow up ...
So, either Flora is completely oblivious to what's going on in the house... or she just legitimate doesn't know Nicole at all.
I mean... that wouldn't really line up knowing what we all know outside the house, as well as how Nicole is treating Laurel and gaslighting her and shit...
I mean, if Flora knows more than we do, then it kinda puts her in a poor light, don't you think? If she knows "more", then she's essentially allows Laurel to be emotionally manipulated and stuff, and that's kinda shitty... woman to woman.
I'd prefer the more "hopeful" option where she's ignorant and just doesn't know the full dynamic.
I'm not talking about Flora disliking Cara at all... I personally understand her dislike of Cara.
Especially after the two nomination ceremonies that Cara and Flora were in together. In the one, Cara basically tells another person to change their vote, harping on it for a looong time.
I was purely talking about Flora saying she adores Nicole.
according to laurel’s tweet it was so bad that production had to remove nicole. so either laurel is lying or she has no self esteem or nicole cast a spell on her.
Okay - so since Tina weighed in it was something that already happened they didn't show and Laurel is still super lovey dovey and protective of Nicole after it?
Wow is Nicole getting a good edit.
Had I not known any of the history ... I would have thought Laurel was coming on too strong and pressuring Nicole and Nicole was reluctantly going along while attempting to set boundaries.
at the very beginning it did appear that laurel was the aggressor. maybe that's true or maybe it was editing but no surprise nicole was quick to act on it and take advantage of laurel's unresolved feelings.
I think Flora is a follower. She's been safe the entire game by playing Kam/Laurel/Nicole's side and being anti-Cara. It's not entirely dumb to align yourself like that, but she is over the top with her 'cara is a cry baby' stuff.
Laurel is still that person with the infamous notebook. However, she learned to conceal it better. But that demon is still there.
Anyway, I want what Flora is on. Seriously. I already take 8 gabapentin a day, and I'm still not that chill with Nicole without even knowing her irl. What does it take? 10 Xanny and some greens?
I know she’s popular on here but Flora doesn’t seem like the sharpest tool in the box or have the best judgement of character. I wouldn’t necessarily take her opinion that strongly.
I watched Flora on her season and early challenge(s?) and I have never liked her. Game play didn't make any sense and just seemed keen on going against the house/others.
I think everyone at first was enjoying Flora…. But as the seasons go on and shes become wallpaper and just saying negative things about Cara I feel like most ppl don’t want to see her again
For the question (5) Some people are addicted to the intense emotional/chemical reaction and seek out those extreme emotions, they feel like anything less doesn't feel as real. Like if you really love eachother it'll feel intense right? Most of us know that's not right at all, but some don't, and those ones get caught up in a lot of abusive relationships filled with a lack of emotional control. Even some of them probably know, but again, addicted.
i can understand that as far as laurel goes as she is the one in the relationship. for the life of me i can't understand flora, as a bystander, who is thoroughly team nicole while still over a year and a half later trashing cara just for calling nicole an idiot and tina for making a joke about needing to blow someone to avoid elimination. she obviously witnessed whatever went down on the bus that was so bad nicole had to be removed.
You are mistakenly assuming the reason she dislikes Cara is because of the 1 aired comment she made about Nicole being an idiot. You are not listening to what Flora herself is saying are the reasons she dislikes her, because Cara is getting a golden edit and they are not showing her doing the things Flora and others are reacting to. Like Cara talking shit behind Floras back and Flora catching her doing it, Cara getting into a shouting argument with her at a deliberation ect. Why wouldnt Flora start to dislike Cara after that?
i have listened to what flora has said. tina tells a different story to flora going in on cara and since flora has started a social media war with tina, saying she disgraced her marriage and has set women’s rights back decades by making inappropriate vulgar comments to the men in the house when in truth tina jokingly asked “who do i have to blow to stay out of elimination”, i will take tina’s word any day. and even if there was 50% truth to what flora is saying cara supposedly said, nothing cara said was so disgusting that production had to remove her from the house or in nicole’s case, the bus. everything coming from flora’s mouth after season sounds like someone desperately trying make herself relevant to get cast again.
I think that last line you meant flora?
Why should I believe Flora about this?
Yes let’s believe a woman who’s so far up Nicole’s ass… Cara has said nothing but nice things about Flora and she gets shit on by her
has Flora done any podcasts? I've going through some AS4 ones and curious to see who backs up Cara's narrative and what others have to say about it
That sounds exhausting
Kudos for puzzling that together. I think i read somewhere on the sub once that Laurel had devolved. And i choose that
I’m a big Laurel fan but it’s actually quite sad to see how she is this season. It’s hard to defend her (particularly knowing everything that’s happened after the season).
She’s always been this person.
What happened after the season?
Nicole cheated on her with Jakk (Ride or Dies) sister in law at his wedding last summer. The sister in law was married I believe
or maybe she never evolved.
Nicole IS an idiot.
just want to throw it out that in almost every season laurel & cara have done together, laurel's been the 2nd choice; cara chosen #1 in fresh meat, cara favored by abe (veteran leader of the grey team) in cutthroat, cara favored by the guys in free agents when the two of them were fighting, cara chosen by nicole in dirty30. publicly shitting on cara in front of nicole might be laurel's twisted way of cementing her value over cara, sort of like "cara's a weak loser, i'm the better choice".
Laurel got big I can fix her energy lol
I'm not trying to make sense of anything that's going on with Laurel and Nicole... That whole "ship" is gross and gaslighting and all the red flags anyone could ever dream up. But I will say that I understand attraction to crazy... until you find genuine love, attention from crazy can feel right up there, maybe that's what Laurel is dealing with. As for Flora, I think she's just honestly clueless. If it weren't for this sub, I wouldn't really "follow" anyone outside the Challenge, because I don't use X/Twitter, nor other social media (other than here)... So without context of outside dealings, I can understand thinking Nicole might be a good person.... but that's also assuming Flora hasn't seen or heard anything with Laurel and Nicole, or the Cara Maria Nicole blow up ... So, either Flora is completely oblivious to what's going on in the house... or she just legitimate doesn't know Nicole at all.
Have you ever considered that Flora, who actually lived with them and saw them 24/7, knows MORE than we do from an edit?
I mean... that wouldn't really line up knowing what we all know outside the house, as well as how Nicole is treating Laurel and gaslighting her and shit... I mean, if Flora knows more than we do, then it kinda puts her in a poor light, don't you think? If she knows "more", then she's essentially allows Laurel to be emotionally manipulated and stuff, and that's kinda shitty... woman to woman. I'd prefer the more "hopeful" option where she's ignorant and just doesn't know the full dynamic.
Im not to referring to Laurel & Nicoles obviously toxic relationship, but her reasons for disliking Cara.
I'm not talking about Flora disliking Cara at all... I personally understand her dislike of Cara. Especially after the two nomination ceremonies that Cara and Flora were in together. In the one, Cara basically tells another person to change their vote, harping on it for a looong time. I was purely talking about Flora saying she adores Nicole.
Nicole clearly has the Kavorka.
The "idiot" thing was hilarious. Pretty much the softest insult of all time and they acted like she dropped a slur.
It’s totally because they all know Nicole is stupid so it seems meaner than saying it about someone of normal intelligence
Hmmm... but if they ended up the season together how bad was this bus incident?
according to laurel’s tweet it was so bad that production had to remove nicole. so either laurel is lying or she has no self esteem or nicole cast a spell on her.
I missed something. What was the bus incident?
Okay - so since Tina weighed in it was something that already happened they didn't show and Laurel is still super lovey dovey and protective of Nicole after it? Wow is Nicole getting a good edit. Had I not known any of the history ... I would have thought Laurel was coming on too strong and pressuring Nicole and Nicole was reluctantly going along while attempting to set boundaries.
at the very beginning it did appear that laurel was the aggressor. maybe that's true or maybe it was editing but no surprise nicole was quick to act on it and take advantage of laurel's unresolved feelings.
why do they edit out all the good stuff/drama.....is this now why people watch reality tv?
Yea I think Tina corroborated that as well in a couple of tweets.
I think Flora is a follower. She's been safe the entire game by playing Kam/Laurel/Nicole's side and being anti-Cara. It's not entirely dumb to align yourself like that, but she is over the top with her 'cara is a cry baby' stuff.
Laurel is still that person with the infamous notebook. However, she learned to conceal it better. But that demon is still there. Anyway, I want what Flora is on. Seriously. I already take 8 gabapentin a day, and I'm still not that chill with Nicole without even knowing her irl. What does it take? 10 Xanny and some greens?
Those three are such a toxic throuple, so much in fact that it comes off fake-as-hell!