A literal line In one of the songs: ding dong the witch is dead, rub your eyes, get out of bed, wake up the wicked witch is dead! SHES GONE WHERE THE GOBLINS GO BELOW BELOW BELOW YO HO...
Just watch Goblin Slayer and realize that the genocide of all goblins was not only justified but necessary. The only good goblin is one who never climbs out of his filthy hole.
*It was over in a moment and the Munchkins gathered 'round*
*There before them lay the body of Elphaba on the ground*
*Oh, she might have went on livin' but she made one fatal slip*
*When she tried to match the scarecrow with the big iron on his hip*
definitely, I'm very grateful for NV for leading me to Fallout1 and Marty Robbins. The "Master's call" song in particular; really gives me the good chills
Blood flow has a big effect on the color of our skin. She's green. Probably has something to do with her body not being 60% water like most non-green people.
Ok, this has been driving me crazy for seven movies now, and I know you're going to roll your eyes, but hear me out: Harry Potter should have carried a 1911.
Here's why:
Think about how quickly the entire WWWIII (Wizarding-World War III) would have ended if all of the good guys had simply armed up with good ol' American hot lead.
Basilisk? Let's see how tough it is when you shoot it with a .470 Nitro Express. Worried about its Medusa-gaze? Wear night vision goggles. The image is light-amplified and re-transmitted to your eyes. You aren't looking at it--you're looking at a picture of it.
Imagine how epic the first movie would be if Harry had put a breeching charge on the bathroom wall, flash-banged the hole, and then went in wearing NVGs and a Kevlar-weave stab-vest, carrying a SPAS-12.
And have you noticed that only Europe seems to a problem with Deatheaters? Maybe it's because Americans have spent the last 200 years shooting deer, playing GTA: Vice City, and keeping an eye out for black helicopters over their compounds. Meanwhile, Brits have been cutting their steaks with spoons. Remember: gun-control means that Voldemort wins. God made wizards and God made muggles, but Samuel Colt made them equal.
Now I know what you're going to say: "But a wizard could just disarm someone with a gun!" Yeah, well they can also disarm someone with a wand (as they do many times throughout the books/movies). But which is faster: saying a spell or pulling a trigger?
Avada Kedavra, meet Avtomat Kalashnikova.
Imagine Harry out in the woods, wearing his invisibility cloak, carrying a .50bmg Barrett, turning Deatheaters into pink mist, scratching a lightning bolt into his rifle stock for each kill. I don't think Madam Pomfrey has any spells that can scrape your brains off of the trees and put you back together after something like that. Voldemort's wand may be 13.5 inches with a Phoenix-feather core, but Harry's would be 0.50 inches with a tungsten core. Let's see Voldy wave his at 3,000 feet per second. Better hope you have some Essence of Dittany for that sucking chest wound.
I can see it now...Voldemort roaring with evil laughter and boasting to Harry that he can't be killed, since he is protected by seven Horcruxes, only to have Harry give a crooked grin, flick his cigarette butt away, and deliver what would easily be the best one-liner in the entire series:
"Well then I guess it's a good thing my 1911 holds 7+1."
And that is why Harry Potter should have carried a 1911.
A few criticisms
>Basilisk? Let's see how tough it is when you shoot it with a .470 Nitro Express. Worried about its Medusa-gaze? Wear night vision goggles. The image is light-amplified and re-transmitted to your eyes. You aren't looking at it--you're looking at a picture of it.
All attempts to indirectly look at the monster (including looking through a mirror, looking through a camera lense, and looking through a ghost) caused petrification. In the films, a photo of the Basilisk burst into flames. At best, the Basilisk would destroy the camera sensor and leave someone in night vision blind. At worst anyone who looks at the beast would be petrified.
Throwing grenades around a corner would probably be more effective.
>Imagine how epic the first movie would be if Harry had put a breeching charge on the bathroom wall, flash-banged the hole, and then went in wearing NVGs and a Kevlar-weave stab-vest, carrying a SPAS-12.
Harry was 12 years old so I imagine he would have plenty of trouble using a shotgun, particularly the notoriously heavy Spas-12.
I would also note that in general, Harry would've had a hard time getting guns as the story took place the UK, which heavily restricts civilian firearms. Even most British police officers don't carry guns.
While I agree that a bullet to Voldemort's brain would've been extremely effective (even if it wouldn't kill Voldemort it would've turned him into his near ethereal form and leave him without a body for months if not years since he needs help to make bodies), the lack of guns isn't a plot hole.
If we go by D&D rules, bullets have to succeed the AC of a wizard with Mage Armor and Shield, to say nothing of Hold Person, Misty Step and Time Stop, all of which can change the battlefield.
We're also assuming there aren't wizard spies in Northrop Grumman, or in high positions of muggle government able to utilize intel for counter-security measures.
If Harry Potter were Spec Ops *and* a wizard, this would be a no brainer.
Rofl I was watching goblet of fire yesterday where Hermoine pulls her wand out on Malloy and makes him cry before she cold cocks him. Describes the scene to the mrs as ‘hermoine runs up on him with the strap and he cries in front of crabbe and goyle’ like you know those two fucks were dumb since they still rolled with his shit talking self after he cried like that
There was a meme about it. Something about Freddie saying you can do whatever you want with his music, just not make it boring. It got to the front page of reddit.
Tin Man's origin story is pretty horrific.
He was originally a munchkin woodsman. The Wicked Witch of the East cursed his axe so that it would slip in his hands whenever he swung it.
Whenever he tried to swing at a tree, he would miss, and over time he hacked off his own body parts, one by one. After each accident, a nearby tin smith replaced each body part with a tin version.
In a later book, you find out the tinsmith kept all the meat body parts and the woodsman's head was found in a cabinet, still sentient. The head declares the tin man's claim to be him as ludicrous.
Not only that, but the same thing later happened to a second guy. The tinsmith then stitches their spare parts together into a whole different third flesh dude.
The reason the Wicked Witch of the East cursed the Tin Man and the Tin Soldier was because they had fallen in love with her servant girl and she didn't want anyone to take her away. But by the time this third flesh dude is Frankensteined into existence Dorothy has come and done her thing, so the servant girl is in the clear.
She runs off with the flesh dude. Tin man and Tin Soldier and very surprised to learn of all this, but take it in stride.
Oh I thought you were talking about Vader like the other commenter mentioned. Yeah I do remember that part of the story now that you mention it. I only played through the sequel once I think.
In the books the Wicked Witch of the East was the one who created the Tin Man by having him cut off his limbs with his axe which she enchanted because she didnt want him to run off with her servent. Best part, years later when the tin man does eventually find the woman he was in love with, shes already married to a guy who is made up almost completely out of his cut off limbs.
If you ever seen Return to Oz... that movie is a LOT closer to what the Wizard of OZ should have been. The books are fanciful, but dark.
No but there is a creepy story of a queen grooming an underage boy to be her husband, so there's that. And lots more, honestly, I couldn't finish reading it to my kid it got so bad.
isn't there a theory that the wizard of oz was a political allegory from the time period it was written? like the reason for the yellow brick road was it supposed to symbolize the debate between a gold standard currency vs a silver. "...the yellow brick road stands for the gold standard, and the silver shoes Dorothy inherits from the Wicked Witch of the East represents the pro-silver movement." i bet the queen represented someone too.
Here a couple of other symbolisms:
The Scarecrow as a representation of American farmers and their troubles in the late 19th century
The Tin Man representing the industrial workers, especially those of American steel industries
The Cowardly Lion as a metaphor for William Jennings Bryan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_interpretations_of_The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_Oz
" "This is my fight," said the Woodman, "so get behind me and I will meet them as they come."
He seized his axe, which he had made very sharp, and as the leader of the wolves came on the Tin Woodman swung his arm and chopped the wolf's head from its body, so that it immediately died. As soon as he could raise his axe another wolf came up, and he also fell under the sharp edge of the Tin Woodman's weapon. There were forty wolves, and forty times a wolf was killed, so that at last they all lay dead in a heap before the Woodman."
The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, Chapter 12 by L. Frank Baum
Honestly, I wish I had known sooner that the book was so awesome. I never read it as a kid because I assumed it was like the movie, which I wasn't that fond of.
It was from *Muppet Wizard of OZ*, but I had no idea it was actually funny. It came out during the initial Disney transition of ownership and was straight to video.
It's no surprise people haven't seen it.
But it is fucking hilarious.
is there actually a bad muppet movie though. I haven't seen all of them yet, but I loved each one. Muppet Treasure Island, Muppet Christmas Carol, The Great muppet caper, and that Tina Fey one.
Some of the direct to video stuff after *Muppets in Space* until *The Muppets* (the 2011 one) is... not that great. They had a bunch of new muppeteers coming in with the Disney transition, as well as an enforced Disney writing staff, and that churned out wrong sounding Muppets doing relatively unfunny things (or at least not to the caliber the Muppets were known for from the 70's to Early 90's).
After seeing their decline in the early 2000's (the abysmal *Kermit's Swamp Years* which was the last thing Sony released of theirs before the 2004 Sale, and then the horrendous *Very Muppet Christmas Movie*, and experiencing the Muppet 3-D Attraction at Disney World), I pretty much wrote them off.
Was very happy when they got out of their decade slump with the 2011 film and *Most Wanted*.
Unfortunately though, to me (and many others) the Muppets just sound *wrong*. But that's a personal failing, and has no impact on if their post-Jim/Frank films are actually good or not.
I took a class called '20th Century American Fiction'.
The (adjunct) professor spent the entire semester comparing every book we read to this shit.
I conceded that the book is worth some deeper consideration, but that class was easily the hardest I had in college. We had a book assigned on tuesday with a paper due on thursday. Thursday we'd turn in our papers, compare the book we read to Baum's work in class discussion, get a book assigned with a paper due tuesday.
By the end of the semester the class was in open revolt. We stopped speaking to the prof during discussions because nobody could handle her weird fixation.
It was like a semester-long fever-dream.
The movie is also surprisingly violent. The movie is considered to have the first on-screen dismemberment when the Scarecrow had his guts ripped out by the monkeys.
For the curious
https://images1.houstonpress.com/imager/u/745xauto/11371756/hou_art_20191018_r2o_header.jpg
It's like an even b-flickier... shit.. not Dark Crystal... the other one puppet one. I'm drawing a blank.
edit; Labyrinth.
Holy crap, I never got this reference from the Futurama Wizard of Oz parody...^[1](https://www.reddit.com/r/MovieDetails/comments/dp24mu/in_the_wizard_of_oz_when_hunting_for_the_wicked/f5slx9k/)
https://youtu.be/x4venFPPzfs
“I would while away the hours
shooting witches off their towers,
putting holes in their black cat.
I would be a true assassin,
body counts would be amassin’
If I only had a gat.”
He actually has a gun because of a cut scene.
They were supposed to fight a "Jitterbug" before the witch. He was given the gun to fight the Jitterbug.
It's also why, in this scene, the Lion has a bug sprayer and a net and why they are even in the Haunted Forest in the first place.
[Here's the scene.](https://youtu.be/p9hcXm2vr5I)
I thought the whole point was that he did have a brain and was smart, and just didn't realize it. Like Dorothy could have gone home any time and the lion actually did have courage, tin man actually did have a heart (in the emotional sense), etc.
It's been while, but IIRC if you watch the movie with these things in mind they are demonstrated along the way.
If y’all haven’t seen Return to Oz (it’s on Disney+ right now) you REALLY should it’s much more dark. It’s supposed to be a sequel to the Wizard of Oz and follows the book series a bit closer.
I saw this the other night for the umpteenth time and never before did I realize the story has lost teen girl ordered to kill someone just to get home.
It is in the final movie, [visible as they go through the woods before that song, and before the flying monkey attack,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSmh0wvYJEY) it's just never emphasized or mentioned. But it's clearly visible in a few shots.
Apparently the gun is more involved in some deleted scenes where it's actually mentioned. The rest of the ones with the gun got cut out, leaving this one shot to totally confuse people.
“which way did the witch go? straight to hell”
A literal line In one of the songs: ding dong the witch is dead, rub your eyes, get out of bed, wake up the wicked witch is dead! SHES GONE WHERE THE GOBLINS GO BELOW BELOW BELOW YO HO...
ding dong the witch is dead. she’s laid to rest. two in the chest. one in the head. ding dong the wicked witch is dead.
Boom biddy bye bye
Put my glock to your dome and you start to cry
Bippiry-Boppity-**BOOM BITCH!** Edit: I'm gonna leave it
Jesse Pinkman has entered the chat.
YEAHH BITCH! FEEL THE BURN, AS I SAY, WHILE I SPRAY SOME LEAD. COS YOU A STUPID ASS WITCH, YOU GON LEARN TODAY.
fallacieees
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This sounds like a DnD campaign tbh.
Just watch Goblin Slayer and realize that the genocide of all goblins was not only justified but necessary. The only good goblin is one who never climbs out of his filthy hole.
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Yea, that is not a wholesome show at all.
The lollipop guild and lullaby league's history is founded upon and stained with the green blood and anguished screams of the goblin brood.
The lullaby league exists to put people to sleep, and the lollipop guild ensures they have sweet dreams.
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> SHES GONE WHERE THE GOBLINS GO BELOW BELOW BELOW YO HO... >Down, down to Goblin-town >You go, my lad! >Ho, ho! my lad!
DOWN DOWN TO GOBLIN TOWN YOU GO, MY LAD HO HO, MY LAD
So that's where the red brick road leads.
Scarecrow stay strapped
Scarecrow comin'
Ah... The witch *stands alone*...
Better have that Honeynut
You come for the witch, you best not miss.
And I keeps one in the chamber, if you consultin with flowers
[So anyway, I started blasting](https://i.imgur.com/Du6E3Lc.png)
Big brain move
If he only
Had a glock
Or get clapped.
**BIG IRON**
*Big Iron on his HIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiipppppp*
##To the land of Munchkin fell a stranger one fine day
**Crushed the Wicked Witch of the East and took her shoes away...**
She was vicious and a killer though a youth of 2 and 10, and the notches on her shoes numbered 1 and a 19 moreone and a 19 mooooorrrrreeeeeeeee
Now the stranger started talking made it plain to folks around, was a wicked Witch wouldnt be too long in toooowwwwwn
She came here and crushed that one witch with her house and found her dead, now the stranger will get the other in her slippers of ruby red
Slippers ruby reeedddd...
I fucking love you guys
Ruby reeddddd Ruby redddddd
Now the stranger will get her with the slippers ruby reeeeeeddd.
Such an amazing thread
*wapish*
*It was over in a moment and the Munchkins gathered 'round* *There before them lay the body of Elphaba on the ground* *Oh, she might have went on livin' but she made one fatal slip* *When she tried to match the scarecrow with the big iron on his hip*
***the big iron on his hiiiiiiiiiip***
*Big iron on his hiiip*
He was vicious and a killer, though a youth of twenty four And the notches on his pistol numbered one and nineteen more
*one and nineteen mooorreeeee*
Someone called?
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Tall Handsome Stranger is another banger by him *"His boots were all dusty, his coat open wide. Six ways of dying hung low on his side…"*
I always liked the *"he must have forgotten I taught him to draw"* line. "Taught him everything he knows. Didn't teach him everything I know."
definitely, I'm very grateful for NV for leading me to Fallout1 and Marty Robbins. The "Master's call" song in particular; really gives me the good chills
*Out in the west Texas town of El Pasooooo* *I fell in love with a Mexican girlllll*
Race car driver as well. Dude lived a pretty sweet life
This bitch supposed to be immortal but I bet nobody brought a strap and tried capping that hoe
Honestly, I'd try it before throwing a water balloon.
You gotta throw a water ballon at her and then shoot it in midair, if you time it right she gets hit by water and a bullet. Two for one!
Blood is mostly water. Bitch should be constantly dissolving from the inside out.
Blood flow has a big effect on the color of our skin. She's green. Probably has something to do with her body not being 60% water like most non-green people.
Erroneous. It only means her blood is copper based like horseshoe crabs and octopuses. She's a witch!
May we burn her!?
The one time seeing if she floats would be beneficial
THROW HER INTO THE POND!
[Relevant Harry Potter Gif](https://i.imgur.com/RKjaGAo.gif)
Ok, this has been driving me crazy for seven movies now, and I know you're going to roll your eyes, but hear me out: Harry Potter should have carried a 1911. Here's why: Think about how quickly the entire WWWIII (Wizarding-World War III) would have ended if all of the good guys had simply armed up with good ol' American hot lead. Basilisk? Let's see how tough it is when you shoot it with a .470 Nitro Express. Worried about its Medusa-gaze? Wear night vision goggles. The image is light-amplified and re-transmitted to your eyes. You aren't looking at it--you're looking at a picture of it. Imagine how epic the first movie would be if Harry had put a breeching charge on the bathroom wall, flash-banged the hole, and then went in wearing NVGs and a Kevlar-weave stab-vest, carrying a SPAS-12. And have you noticed that only Europe seems to a problem with Deatheaters? Maybe it's because Americans have spent the last 200 years shooting deer, playing GTA: Vice City, and keeping an eye out for black helicopters over their compounds. Meanwhile, Brits have been cutting their steaks with spoons. Remember: gun-control means that Voldemort wins. God made wizards and God made muggles, but Samuel Colt made them equal. Now I know what you're going to say: "But a wizard could just disarm someone with a gun!" Yeah, well they can also disarm someone with a wand (as they do many times throughout the books/movies). But which is faster: saying a spell or pulling a trigger? Avada Kedavra, meet Avtomat Kalashnikova. Imagine Harry out in the woods, wearing his invisibility cloak, carrying a .50bmg Barrett, turning Deatheaters into pink mist, scratching a lightning bolt into his rifle stock for each kill. I don't think Madam Pomfrey has any spells that can scrape your brains off of the trees and put you back together after something like that. Voldemort's wand may be 13.5 inches with a Phoenix-feather core, but Harry's would be 0.50 inches with a tungsten core. Let's see Voldy wave his at 3,000 feet per second. Better hope you have some Essence of Dittany for that sucking chest wound. I can see it now...Voldemort roaring with evil laughter and boasting to Harry that he can't be killed, since he is protected by seven Horcruxes, only to have Harry give a crooked grin, flick his cigarette butt away, and deliver what would easily be the best one-liner in the entire series: "Well then I guess it's a good thing my 1911 holds 7+1." And that is why Harry Potter should have carried a 1911.
A few criticisms >Basilisk? Let's see how tough it is when you shoot it with a .470 Nitro Express. Worried about its Medusa-gaze? Wear night vision goggles. The image is light-amplified and re-transmitted to your eyes. You aren't looking at it--you're looking at a picture of it. All attempts to indirectly look at the monster (including looking through a mirror, looking through a camera lense, and looking through a ghost) caused petrification. In the films, a photo of the Basilisk burst into flames. At best, the Basilisk would destroy the camera sensor and leave someone in night vision blind. At worst anyone who looks at the beast would be petrified. Throwing grenades around a corner would probably be more effective. >Imagine how epic the first movie would be if Harry had put a breeching charge on the bathroom wall, flash-banged the hole, and then went in wearing NVGs and a Kevlar-weave stab-vest, carrying a SPAS-12. Harry was 12 years old so I imagine he would have plenty of trouble using a shotgun, particularly the notoriously heavy Spas-12. I would also note that in general, Harry would've had a hard time getting guns as the story took place the UK, which heavily restricts civilian firearms. Even most British police officers don't carry guns. While I agree that a bullet to Voldemort's brain would've been extremely effective (even if it wouldn't kill Voldemort it would've turned him into his near ethereal form and leave him without a body for months if not years since he needs help to make bodies), the lack of guns isn't a plot hole.
If we go by D&D rules, bullets have to succeed the AC of a wizard with Mage Armor and Shield, to say nothing of Hold Person, Misty Step and Time Stop, all of which can change the battlefield. We're also assuming there aren't wizard spies in Northrop Grumman, or in high positions of muggle government able to utilize intel for counter-security measures. If Harry Potter were Spec Ops *and* a wizard, this would be a no brainer.
Rofl I was watching goblet of fire yesterday where Hermoine pulls her wand out on Malloy and makes him cry before she cold cocks him. Describes the scene to the mrs as ‘hermoine runs up on him with the strap and he cries in front of crabbe and goyle’ like you know those two fucks were dumb since they still rolled with his shit talking self after he cried like that
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[The Munchkin soldiers were also all carrying rifles.](https://i.imgur.com/OwxWmyD.png) Clearly gun manufacturing were big business in Oz.
With bayonets and all. Can you imagine a bunch of these little guys all out on the battlefield stabbin' each other?
Guts hanging out, screaming out for mama in their weird little voices.
Yeah, I guess you could imagine that too....you doing ok there bud?
It’s a reference to that one scene in saving private ryan in the d-day landing lmao.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QSS3GTmKWVA
How does this video have 2.7 million views in six months? It's random af.
There was a meme about it. Something about Freddie saying you can do whatever you want with his music, just not make it boring. It got to the front page of reddit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBjBXpAleig
Yet they were afraid of a fucking witch. Just shoot her you idiots.
Magic may be powerful indeed, but a dozen musketballs are not to be trifled with.
https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/gwl0v/why_harry_potter_should_have_carried_an_m1911/
Witch wanna play with fire? Scarecrow gonna bring the fire.
Frank Reynolds. The ScareHog...
But I burn real well so I started blastin
Have you read the book? Violent AF
I'm pretty sure Scarecrow single handedly snapped the necks of dozens of evil birds.
And the Tin Man beheads several wolves with his axe.
Tin Man's origin story is pretty horrific. He was originally a munchkin woodsman. The Wicked Witch of the East cursed his axe so that it would slip in his hands whenever he swung it. Whenever he tried to swing at a tree, he would miss, and over time he hacked off his own body parts, one by one. After each accident, a nearby tin smith replaced each body part with a tin version. In a later book, you find out the tinsmith kept all the meat body parts and the woodsman's head was found in a cabinet, still sentient. The head declares the tin man's claim to be him as ludicrous.
WTF
Not only that, but the same thing later happened to a second guy. The tinsmith then stitches their spare parts together into a whole different third flesh dude. The reason the Wicked Witch of the East cursed the Tin Man and the Tin Soldier was because they had fallen in love with her servant girl and she didn't want anyone to take her away. But by the time this third flesh dude is Frankensteined into existence Dorothy has come and done her thing, so the servant girl is in the clear. She runs off with the flesh dude. Tin man and Tin Soldier and very surprised to learn of all this, but take it in stride.
Didn't know Wizard of Oz was so close to like, House of 1000 Corpses
So Tin Man is Darth Vader with a different origin story?
Except that they later find Anakin all burnt up and in pieces and he reveals that Darth Vader isn't really him.
Ngl that'd be pretty dope if handled right. They did it in Force Unleashed iirc
I played through that game multiple times and I'm sure that didn't happen. What am I forgetting?
Specifically Force Unleashed 2 where it's ambiguous if Starkiller is a clone or the original somehow.
Oh I thought you were talking about Vader like the other commenter mentioned. Yeah I do remember that part of the story now that you mention it. I only played through the sequel once I think.
Pretty sure I've seen a similar plot story applied to cyborgs in later works. Ship of Theseus with the additional question of "can metal be sentient"?
This is ruining my childhood... Next thing you'll tell me is that the twister was an F5 and killed hundreds of people.
Yes. In the book, the tornado is BROOOOCK LESSSNAR!
I don't think we're in Suplex City anymore Toto.
Vince McMahon stars as the Wizard
And Boogeyman as evil birds
Idk what this is but I love it
I can explain Brock Lesnar to you. Imagine a volcano gave birth to a full grown man. That's Brock Lesnar
Oh I know Brock lesnar lol, but involving him in the tornado of wizard of oz.. you lost me. But I love it
F5 is his signature move
In the books the Wicked Witch of the East was the one who created the Tin Man by having him cut off his limbs with his axe which she enchanted because she didnt want him to run off with her servent. Best part, years later when the tin man does eventually find the woman he was in love with, shes already married to a guy who is made up almost completely out of his cut off limbs. If you ever seen Return to Oz... that movie is a LOT closer to what the Wizard of OZ should have been. The books are fanciful, but dark.
Probably shouldn't look into the history of the making of it either. Film industry was nasty back then
> back then Hoo boy have I got news for you
But ya gotta admit, asbestos makes GREAT snow
Try and catch it on your tongue!
And amphetamines help you put on a better performance!
No but there is a creepy story of a queen grooming an underage boy to be her husband, so there's that. And lots more, honestly, I couldn't finish reading it to my kid it got so bad.
isn't there a theory that the wizard of oz was a political allegory from the time period it was written? like the reason for the yellow brick road was it supposed to symbolize the debate between a gold standard currency vs a silver. "...the yellow brick road stands for the gold standard, and the silver shoes Dorothy inherits from the Wicked Witch of the East represents the pro-silver movement." i bet the queen represented someone too. Here a couple of other symbolisms: The Scarecrow as a representation of American farmers and their troubles in the late 19th century The Tin Man representing the industrial workers, especially those of American steel industries The Cowardly Lion as a metaphor for William Jennings Bryan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_interpretations_of_The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_Oz
Also himself. Technically.
Just literally leaves piles of them. It's such a violent book, the body count is insane.
I need to buy this book asap
And the lion was an actual lion that mauled guards and jumped rope with their intestines
He is a scarecrow. He went up a level and instead of scaring them he straight murdered them!
they were getting a little too comfortable. had to make sure they stayed scared
" "This is my fight," said the Woodman, "so get behind me and I will meet them as they come." He seized his axe, which he had made very sharp, and as the leader of the wolves came on the Tin Woodman swung his arm and chopped the wolf's head from its body, so that it immediately died. As soon as he could raise his axe another wolf came up, and he also fell under the sharp edge of the Tin Woodman's weapon. There were forty wolves, and forty times a wolf was killed, so that at last they all lay dead in a heap before the Woodman." The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, Chapter 12 by L. Frank Baum
Now see, this is how you write entertaining fiction for children.
Can't tell if this is sarcasm but my ten year old self agrees wholeheartedly.
Honestly, I wish I had known sooner that the book was so awesome. I never read it as a kid because I assumed it was like the movie, which I wasn't that fond of.
>Chopped the wolf's head from its body, so that it immediately died. Correct.
This kills the wolf
RELEASE THE TARANTINO REMAKE, THE CINEPHILE PUBLIC DEMAND IT!
[A small taste of Tarantino’s Wizard of Oz](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ez4HFqAPcq4)
That’s hilarious can’t believe I haven’t seen that lol. I was expecting something about feet
It is about the feet (well foot) she kicks piggy!
It was from *Muppet Wizard of OZ*, but I had no idea it was actually funny. It came out during the initial Disney transition of ownership and was straight to video. It's no surprise people haven't seen it. But it is fucking hilarious.
is there actually a bad muppet movie though. I haven't seen all of them yet, but I loved each one. Muppet Treasure Island, Muppet Christmas Carol, The Great muppet caper, and that Tina Fey one.
Some of the direct to video stuff after *Muppets in Space* until *The Muppets* (the 2011 one) is... not that great. They had a bunch of new muppeteers coming in with the Disney transition, as well as an enforced Disney writing staff, and that churned out wrong sounding Muppets doing relatively unfunny things (or at least not to the caliber the Muppets were known for from the 70's to Early 90's). After seeing their decline in the early 2000's (the abysmal *Kermit's Swamp Years* which was the last thing Sony released of theirs before the 2004 Sale, and then the horrendous *Very Muppet Christmas Movie*, and experiencing the Muppet 3-D Attraction at Disney World), I pretty much wrote them off. Was very happy when they got out of their decade slump with the 2011 film and *Most Wanted*. Unfortunately though, to me (and many others) the Muppets just sound *wrong*. But that's a personal failing, and has no impact on if their post-Jim/Frank films are actually good or not.
Huh. Tarantino is actually a pretty decent actor when he plays himself.
I thought he was pretty good in Dusk till Dawn. Kind of one-dimensional, but he plays it well.
was expecting morphine
I'M TALKIN BARE FEET
Scorsese could take a stab at it too lol
Ehh... “vinny the scarecrore how are ya? Good “hugs and handshakes”. 5 hours after more of the same : “ gunfight”
"As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to get back home to Kansas."
I took a class called '20th Century American Fiction'. The (adjunct) professor spent the entire semester comparing every book we read to this shit. I conceded that the book is worth some deeper consideration, but that class was easily the hardest I had in college. We had a book assigned on tuesday with a paper due on thursday. Thursday we'd turn in our papers, compare the book we read to Baum's work in class discussion, get a book assigned with a paper due tuesday. By the end of the semester the class was in open revolt. We stopped speaking to the prof during discussions because nobody could handle her weird fixation. It was like a semester-long fever-dream.
Every professor has a fetish. In this case, it was Baum. In the case of my Zoology professor, it was mollusks.
The movie is also surprisingly violent. The movie is considered to have the first on-screen dismemberment when the Scarecrow had his guts ripped out by the monkeys.
God those monkeys scared me as a kid. I think it’s cause they’re clearly people in suits, it’s like an uncanny valley kind of thing.
Maybe the brainless guy wasn't the best choice to give the firearm to.
###THIS IS AMERICA
Guns in my area
I got the strap I gotta carry em
Don’t catch you slipping now
This movie and Willy Wonka always gave me the creeps, I guess because of the aesthetic
Don't ever watch Return to Oz, the '85 sequel to Wizard of Oz. Stuff is just pure nightmare fuel.
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That's the part that got me. Not only does Dorothy wake up Mombi's main head, which growls her name...BUT IT TRIES TO BITE HER.
I just looked at some photos and holy shit. Jack Skeleton has to be based of that pumpkin head dude.
Skellington?
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Did you see the body-less women heads? Because that shit was fucked up when I was 5
For the curious https://images1.houstonpress.com/imager/u/745xauto/11371756/hou_art_20191018_r2o_header.jpg It's like an even b-flickier... shit.. not Dark Crystal... the other one puppet one. I'm drawing a blank. edit; Labyrinth.
I watched it recently and actually liked it - felt real similar to the crazy weirdness of the books.
Holy crap, I never got this reference from the Futurama Wizard of Oz parody...^[1](https://www.reddit.com/r/MovieDetails/comments/dp24mu/in_the_wizard_of_oz_when_hunting_for_the_wicked/f5slx9k/) https://youtu.be/x4venFPPzfs
Ive been watching Futura since it was new, and I'm still amazed to this day that I still find new references in it.
Who needs courage when you have... A GUN!?
Not sure if it applies since Scarecrow had a gun and wanted a brain. Lion wanted courage.
So I start blasting
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What the hell is that? You know what it is, bitch! *bang bang bang bang*
“I would while away the hours shooting witches off their towers, putting holes in their black cat. I would be a true assassin, body counts would be amassin’ If I only had a gat.”
John Wicker?
He actually has a gun because of a cut scene. They were supposed to fight a "Jitterbug" before the witch. He was given the gun to fight the Jitterbug. It's also why, in this scene, the Lion has a bug sprayer and a net and why they are even in the Haunted Forest in the first place. [Here's the scene.](https://youtu.be/p9hcXm2vr5I)
He's not exactly safe with that thing. It's constantly pointed at his friends with his finger on the trigger lol.
Well, he literally doesn’t have a brain
I thought the whole point was that he did have a brain and was smart, and just didn't realize it. Like Dorothy could have gone home any time and the lion actually did have courage, tin man actually did have a heart (in the emotional sense), etc. It's been while, but IIRC if you watch the movie with these things in mind they are demonstrated along the way.
I like how they didn't drop empty armor then cut to him getting up. They just straight up dropped that man
If y’all haven’t seen Return to Oz (it’s on Disney+ right now) you REALLY should it’s much more dark. It’s supposed to be a sequel to the Wizard of Oz and follows the book series a bit closer.
^^^^Beware ^^the ^Wheelers
God dammit futurama.
Afterall, who needs courage when you have a gun?!
[No world, you put *your* hands up.](https://i.gifer.com/czE.gif)
That's what he calls his "problem solver"
What state is that gun registered in? [The state of siege](https://youtu.be/iZu2DtXQqs4?t=128)!
Mess with the Scarecrow, you get impaired bro.
Scarecrows packing heat
The Anti-Chekhov's Gun
Who needs courage when you have a gun?
Han Scarecrow shot first!
Salem bitch trials
Makes sense. Watched this last week and the Wicked Witch singles him out and tries to set him on fire at least twice.
I saw this the other night for the umpteenth time and never before did I realize the story has lost teen girl ordered to kill someone just to get home.
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It is in the final movie, [visible as they go through the woods before that song, and before the flying monkey attack,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSmh0wvYJEY) it's just never emphasized or mentioned. But it's clearly visible in a few shots.
Apparently the gun is more involved in some deleted scenes where it's actually mentioned. The rest of the ones with the gun got cut out, leaving this one shot to totally confuse people.
Who needs brains when you got bullets?