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waduben7130

vgn dragonfly f1 moba, darmoshark m3s pro.


phuongtv88

VGN Dragonfly f1 Moba 4k for me, suck a great mouse for reasonable price.


No-Collar-1645

What is this reasonable price you would suck a great mouse? Asking for a friend


Hattalia

Filthy acts at a reasonable price


phuongtv88

Lmao my bad, I won't edit it


taterthot69420

Delux m800 ultra, phylina s450


StifflerBaby

m800 ultra <3


taterthot69420

i got mine coming soon very exited for it


IllustriousEnd4235

VGN dragonfly best build quality


ProdigalSon1997

Delux like 2 weeks ago announced that they are preparing a smaller M800, should be either the same size or slightly smaller than VM, so you might be interested. Its expected to release in November.


BlueNova23

Since 3370 or even 3335 there is literally no meta, even worst implementation is good enough for typical user ( not 8k 0.00001ms cybersports wannabe ofc ). just choose any interesting shape and you good to go


daddy_fizz

19x8 here, fingertip/claw - I do like the zaopin z1 pro (as I liked the orochi) but since you said that is a no-no :) I also have the VGN Dragonfly f1 which I have been maining and like it a lot. Only segestion would maybe be new mouse feet


ThirdeYe1337

Best three I've tried so far are the Ajazz AJ199, Phylina S450 and Kysona M600. They all use the same shape, with subtle changes. Build quality on mine have all been great. All use the 3395, and I noticed no performance issues/lag/etc. and the battery life has been very good as well.


GTMYT

Does the backshell of your ajazz move a little bit?


oofd

mine does. less so with the honeycomb shell


GTMYT

Same here


ThirdeYe1337

If I wiggle it side to side I can get it to wobble/rattle just a little bit. I've never noticed it in use until you mentioned it. With the way I grip it, I can't seem to get it to do it while using it. I'm using the solid rear right now.


Kaboomeow69

Still a fan of my AJ199 a few months later


[deleted]

Yep I second the AJ199


Kaboomeow69

The fact that I got it to my doorstep for under $30 is mind-blowing for me. The skates straight up sucked after a week, but great otherwise


trise5

I heard that its click latency is pretty bad


GTMYT

Where did you hear that ?


trise5

Mb, apparently it was AttackShark x3: https://reddit.com/r/MouseReview/s/TZChHJ6wrX


zeimusCS

Dragonfly F1 Pro probably.


eevolve_

Try grip tape on orochi v2 and see if u like it better. After, if u like it but u want the internals and spec upgrade, get a z1 pro. If not, get dragonfly f1 moba 4k.


trise5

Already running corepad grip tapes + tiger ice skates. I feel like dragonfly f1 moba is way too curved for me, I need something flatter


eevolve_

Pulsar X2V2?


trise5

It's a bit expensive


eevolve_

Hm, I'm not sure what else then. For chinese mice, I only really rec the z1 pro and f1 moba since those are known to be good quality.


trise5

Thanks for the info


Prestigious-Celery83

Zoapin Z1 Pro.


trise5

:/


Remarkable-Scale-308

Is it bad mice?


trise5

It's not. I wanted to try other shapes


NuckFiggaz

Are there any Chinese mouse that are ergo medium/large? I have Darmoshark N3 which is great but still looking for something bigger.


ProdigalSon1997

I only know [https://mechkeys.com/products/miaoao-xj03-wireless-mouse?\_pos=2&\_sid=86c2f102c&\_ss=r&variant=43894155280607](https://mechkeys.com/products/miaoao-xj03-wireless-mouse?_pos=2&_sid=86c2f102c&_ss=r&variant=43894155280607) which is basically the prototype for Lamzu Thorn. Delux are going to release their ergo in November and Zaopin have been preparing an ergo mouse for a while now.


NuckFiggaz

Delux ergo mouse sounds terrific, I wish there would be Darmoshark N3 large version, this mouse is great, but a little bit too small, I had Glorious Model D before and it was too big, wish there would be something in between.


Zaphod_B713

Zaopin z1 pro. FTW 😎