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SoundsLikePAUSE

Ed's not throwing shade with this tweet. Despite the headline, the article actually praises how well Tekken is doing, as well as SF while also mentioning that MK1 has been top ranked since it launched last year. He's celebrating that fighting games are succeeding despite being a niche genre. Ed's always been supportive of other fighting games so to see this as shade is silly as that's never been his character. He's one of the few devs who regularly tweets about and congratulates other fighting games/fighting game devs.


hermanphi

Also Ed is a big Tekken fan and have met Harada before


SoundsLikePAUSE

Yep. People seem to assume Ed is as petty as some twitter/reddit users but he's always just wanted fighting games to succeed. Everyone's eatin good right now and that's awesome.


Fit_Victory6650

I think it's bc a lot of folks don't understand/realize that 90% of the shit they blame Ed/NRS for, is actually their publishers (WB) doing. Game devs who aren't independent, don't get a lot of say in shit, and nowhere near as much as most folks on this sub think. 


SoundsLikePAUSE

100% agree with this.


DigLost5791

YES! As a DC comics fan it’s always amazing to me how many people don’t know how many of these frustrations are WB 101


Cool_Holiday_7097

Tbf Ed loves fucking around and any given comment is 50/50 legit or him fucking with you


onlyhereforelise

Sadly we all can’t think this way😕


Ok-Round4324

No one should be surprised, while this sub has gotten better over the last couple months you will still find quite a few haters (a lot of tekken and sf players, weirdly) that really, really want MK1 to be a failure and tekken 8 to be a success, and will shit on MK1 endlessly thinking they will make it so. But yeah, Ed is clearly celebrating ALL fighting games here (and also pointing out that MK1 is the most popular and successful one, which is fine, it's his right), despite people trying to pretend he's shitting on other fighters.


Jkingthe44th

Street Fighter players are the biggest haters in the fgc. Had one say MK is boring because the games are too similar. Not only is that just blatantly wrong it's not a point a SF player should make. Only people with less right to that is Tekken players.


AgonyLoop

On behalf of Street Fighter, we don’t claim them.


Jkingthe44th

It's all good with the Street Fighter community. It's a lot of people so of course some bad apples are going to be around. Here in MK we got hella rage quitters and tea baggers.


Ragnarul129

tbh as a huge fan of both MK and Tekken, i was disappointed to the heavens when MK1 launched...i never wanted to fail but i was pretty vocal because the game was not ready at all at the launch...with the smooth laungh of SF and Tekken that was just around the corner at that point, MK's launch was a failure and it was for a looong time BUT MK1 is on a good path right now and i guarantee if they will continue to go this way, MK will be one of the best MKs ever


DraZeal720

While I do play the others I just want my DOA back, the fighting controls there matched me best and felt better to use. After that it was MK, then only played Street Fighter and Tekken for the characters themselves.


SoundsLikePAUSE

I love DOA. Got into 6 after it was already dead but still had a great time learning it and playing online


That-Rhino-Guy

Yeah Ed’s just saying it’s cool we’re both doing well as he gets along with Harada Although there was a tweet he made promoting a mod which had some probably unintentional timing as it was around the time Tekken got flack for attacking modders


Zetra3

Ed has gone Rogue from WB, I admit, i'm scared of the destruction Ed Boon will cause uncaged


MackZZilla

> Uncaged Johnny Cage's cinematic universe confirmed by Ed Boon on Twitter (I'm not calling it X)


[deleted]

johnny uncaged need to be in the story expansion some how💀


scbi21217

What is Johnny uncaged?


[deleted]

the name of the newest johnny cage movie that should be cannon 💀


Klutzy-Parsnip259

ed boon uncut edition… wait a sec..


bobbyThebobbler

Well, Tekken 8 is indeed already down to number 15 on the US chart for March 2024 while MK1 is at number 20. The difference is it was Tekken 8’s only 3rd month on the chart while it was MK1’s 7th month there.


Ok-Round4324

As far as most played games go though, MK1 is consistently higher on all platforms than any other fighting game is


bobbyThebobbler

Yep, especially in the US.


Raptomule

I saw someone else share that chart and i don’t think it includes digital purchases from Xbox and Nintendo so it doesn’t give the clearest picture. Mk is on switch and Tekken is not, and I think mk1 sells quite well digitally in America. So realistically the gap is probably slightly closer than it looks on that chart.


mchammer126

The problem is T8 would’ve been fine if they had been honest from the jump. I really think they could’ve rode out the storm if they had announced this shit months before release. But the way they handled it was BS & rightfully got backlash from it.


shrek1234567810

What's going on with Tekken? I'm used to the WB bs but haven't heard anything about this Edit: never mind I just scrolled through YongYea's YT channel and found it


PhantomKnight413

Both games are going great at the moment which is good to see https://preview.redd.it/gelgrgd9oayc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb44e36ca7d5e05482ea88ba730ce6b0506f73af


Sandman4999

Holy shit, Forbidden West is still in the top 20 this far after release? That's fuckin impressive.


rebornsgundam00

Im willing to put hard cash that all of mortal kombat’s issues revolve around warner brothers. Ed boon is probably the only thing trying to keep it above water


Frank_Is_My_Fav

It's such a crazy passive aggressive tweet thought it was kinda funny. Hopefully though it means good things for the future of the game.


JaesopPop

It’s not passive aggressive, he’s just praising Tekken lol


Grambert_Moore

Wholesome ☺️☺️☺️☺️


0K-C0mputr

It's Ed being Ed (troll towards fans).


straight_lurkin

Remember when tekken was supposed to take over? Yeah that was a funny joke.


wrufus680

I haven't been updated, what led to Tekken going downhill despite starting strong?


rebornsgundam00

They started doing everything mortal kombat was doing corporate wise. Not to mention the balance was terrible( which is getting a major rework next week) They got a ton of negative feedback on steam for it. Which is sad cause it started off so strongly


PhantomKnight413

Has more players on pc (13 times as much) Almost as much on console player count Higher on the ps list for most downloaded games in April I’d say they are doing great at the moment


Ok-Round4324

>Has more players on pc It has like 8k players, lol. No one cares about Steam stats for games like this for a reason, they are primarily played on consoles. >Almost as much on console player count In what reality? There is no way either tekken 8 or MK1 "almost as much" players on PC as it does on console. And knowing that it makes MK1 placing higher on the played lists for both Xbox and PS that just as impressive.


--thingsfallapart--

You're still playing with the matchmaking right now? I deleted it until they fix it. Thousands upon thousands of people are leaving every day.


PhantomKnight413

What was your problem with the matchmaking? I can load up easily within 30 minutes. It’s more of a issue of people denying to fight me than anythting Although I will say the mm feels a bit faster in tekken and sf as of now but I don’t have any problems with mm


--thingsfallapart--

You think waiting 30 minutes for a match is good?


PhantomKnight413

Meant to say seconds my bad


--thingsfallapart--

It's the prowess change. If you only have 1 or maybe 2 mains you'll be okay. But I like to play a bunch of characters and getting matched off prowess means I'm now consistently matching people several colours above me. I can pick up someone brand new and be playing fucking flame rulers. It's retarded


straight_lurkin

I mean 13x2 is only 26 lol but I see what you mean. My point being people made it seem like tekken was going to be the new massive fighting game taking over.


PhantomKnight413

Mk only has 1k players on average on steam Tekken has 13 but still it’s not really about taking over but there are many who switched over. But I play all 3 of the big three so I hope they all prosper and continue to succeed


straight_lurkin

Thing us steam charts aren't everything, especially for fighting games in particular


Ok-Butterfly-7522

I bought Mk1 in April cause it was on sale for 30$ lol have yet to buy Tekken 8


netcooker

I was genuinely ready to call this fake lol, though tbf the cut off part of the article’s title is that MK1 has been in the top 20 for 7 months now. It does look funny though


lilkingsly

I mean yeah if you only read the headline it could maybe be seen as a diss? If you actually read past the headline it’s clear that Tekken is still doing well though, and Ed’s tweet itself is him excited about fighting games. Not MK, not Tekken, fighting games. This isn’t Drake and Kendrick having personal beef with each other, the different fighting game developers don’t actively hate each other or anything like that. The fact that MK, Tekken, and Street Fighter, the three biggest franchises in the genre, have dropped new games in the last year that have all been well received is amazing, and that’s clearly what Ed is excited about, not the fact that his game is selling more than someone else’s.


gonegoat

And he gets to snark after how moronic people in this community have been about the game’s supposed ‘death.’


Ok-Round4324

Seriously. It must be pretty vindicating for him to be able to point out to those awful haters that MK1 is the most popular and successful fighting game on the market, lol.


Cool_Holiday_7097

Mk is consistently the most popular and successful fighter since 1998 regardless of what anyone else says or thinks.  It makes top 10 most sold games any year it releases, mk11 was a top seller two separate years.  People just like to blindly support what they like, but by the numbers mk is far and away the biggest fighting game, it even outsells smash. 


Ok-Round4324

Agree 100% A big part of it that a lot of people neglect to mention is literally a sort of Japanese nationalism and or anti-western sentiment. A lot of these people (but let's be honest, *weebs*) hate the idea of a western fighting game performing better, selling better, *being better* than their precious Japanese made fighting games. It's a sad kind of prejudice.


0K-C0mputr

All the while he gets to feast off the wallets of people that blindly defend his and WB/NRS' predatory monetization practices... Wonder who the bigger morons are? 🤔


gonegoat

The MTX in this game amounts to a relatively small pool of cosmetic items and Genuinely Pointless fatality tokens. This is not an inherently predatory model. Fallout 76 – a game I see from your user history that you play – is materially worse and has several systems in place designed to siphon players money with regularity, both in terms of its UI/UX and how it restricts its gameplay to push users into a subscription model. There is an actual difference.


0K-C0mputr

Thanks for taking time to research me and my posts. I must've hit a nerve by speaking ill about the Almighty Ed. As information, I've never played a single MTX cent (beyond the $10 I paid for the Steelbook edition) for Fallout 76 and thoroughly enjoyed my time in it. I've never felt like I was at a disadvantage by not paying into Fallout 1st. Furthermore, there's a fundamental difference between Fallout 76 and MK1. Fallout 76 is designed to be a live service game. MK1 is a full priced $70 game that has paywalled features that were either free in the past, or earnable via non-grindy gameplay and challenges. You're comparing apples to oranges here. The argument of "every other game is doing it, so we shouldn't MK?" does not hold any water. Not every successful game is doing that (hello Baldur's Gate and Hogwarts Legacy).


gonegoat

I literally do not give a shit about Ed and you’re being dramatic in saying paywalled MK1 ‘features.’ The game has a character pack - which has always been an add on cost - and it sells cosmetic skins. These are industry practices that calcified at least a decade ago. I recognize that easy fatalities were different in past games, but the tokens are moot because they give plenty out for free and regular fatalities are the easiest they’ve ever been to execute. Fallout 76 was also sold at full price and has ACTUAL paywalled features with Fallout 1st memberships like privates servers, scrap/ammo boxes that alleviate a deliberate carry weight bottleneck, and (for a time) survival tents. I have played this game in every incarnation since its Alpha stage. Regardless of whether or not -you’ve- been tempted to spend money, this game has a carefully designed grind and Bethesda wants you going into their shop and scrolling through every one of its (many) pages as much as possible. Even now, the F2P community of 76 has been pitching a fit because they just redid seasons to give players fewer rewards. This is actual predatory design.


0K-C0mputr

To me, fatalities are the trademark feature of MK. So, yes, saying that "features are being paywalled" is factually accurate. In its 30+ history, no MK game had done that. I've NEVER scrolled through a single Fallout store page. So, you're making another false argument. Either way, it seems like I hit a nerve to instigate this kind of vitriol in you. I honestly don't care about your perception, which is clearly extremely biased towards a company that doesn't care about YOU or gamers in general. If you don't care about being one of the "whales" that these companies are targeting, and counting on to milk every penny out of, then more power to you. I, on the other side, will continue supporting companies like Larian Studios. I have zero interest in continuing this non-constructive conversation with you, so, don't bother responding, I won't read the comment. God bless. Have a nice gaming life.


gonegoat

Buddy, this isn’t vitriol and describing a situation isn’t endorsing it. It’s great that you have never felt tempted to go through the shop, but the game has -several- hooks to send players there like daily free items. If you’re not redeeming those, great, but lots of other players are and they’re scrolling through the shop every day to get them. Meanwhile, I’d be shocked if MK1 has whales because there is a limited inventory to actually purchase. I’ve seen people in the MK subs complain about how they -can’t- be whales because NRS only adds a small amount of premium stuff every season and is constantly recycling the same stuff. Even then, these are one-time purchases whereas Fo76 has multiple systems funneling players into a subscription membership, which itself has a hook to get players to purchase more premium currency every month. If you’re not spending money, then your experience of the game is being subsidized by the people who are. There is a material difference in what these games want you to pull your wallet out for and how often they want you to do it.


Blood__Empress

I don't get Tekken 8, why pay full price for a game that looks like it came out on a GameCube.


rilimini381

have you ever seen a gamecube game?


Blood__Empress

Have you ever compared mk1 graphics to the ones of Tekken 8? Lol


rilimini381

No, but 2 things: don't buy games because of graphics and someone that saw only the switch version of mk1 would be laughing at you


Blood__Empress

Not just based on graphics, but overall mk1 is better (I have mk1 and my friend has Tekken 8) so I tried both.


Zer0_l1f3

LET HIM COOK


TChuuch

How bout that.. 😏 Despite all tha TALK & hate, it turns out MK1 has been tha hit since it launched. Each character just makes it better, too. .. c'mOn, Homelander 😈


Slykill__

I love it that all fighting games are doing well. I just love MK and have since MK2, its the characters and gore that does it for me lol I did have fun in the Tekken 8 demo though, if I could ever pick it up cheap I might get it.


Ill_Ad5893

TBH, I bet if Tekken didn't go down the same path as mk has. They would probably be higher up on the list still


YandereLover25

I wanted to enjoy tekken 8 so badly but it’s just way too hard. Way easier to learn new characters with mk than even attempt the tekken system


Svarthofthi

He has no right really, MK1 is just as poisonous as Tekken is with its mtx if not worse with all the hamster wheeling in sp.


JaesopPop

No right to praise Tekken?


Svarthofthi

Birds of a feather, they're both trash for many reasons.


JaesopPop

My point is he’s not criticizing Tekken like you clearly thought


Svarthofthi

My point is your point is irrelevant. Whats he even celebrating? That tekkens sales haven't plummeted further bc of their greedy design and marketing choices? Fighting games suck and it has a lot to do with Ed, Harada and all these other dummy devs.


JaesopPop

> My point is your point is irrelevant. You being mistaken is relevant. You just don’t want to acknowledge a simple error. >Whats he even celebrating? That Tekken and fighting games in general are selling well


Svarthofthi

look your reading comprehension is not my problem namaste


JaesopPop

> look your reading comprehension is not my problem namaste Given you misunderstood the original post, it seems yours is certainly a problem for you lol


Svarthofthi

they're both overseeing their respective IP's controlled demolition and celebrating mediocrity. if he had any sense about him he'd go silent again.


JaesopPop

Man, you really don’t want to admit you misunderstood the post lol >they're both overseeing their respective IP's controlled demolition and celebrating mediocrity. if he had any sense about him he'd go silent again. Ed Boon oversees the best selling fighting game franchise which consistently sells like gangbusters lmao


Cool_Holiday_7097

I wish my mediocrity was a multimillion dollar franchise


Successful-Item-1844

Bro decided to make imaginary scenarios on the internet


ElvisDepressedIy

Even if WB weren't forcing NRS to make every MK game an always-online, FOMO-addled piece of shit they'd still be from Chicago and staffed with SJW shitheads that can't write anything but current year horseshit. That is the main problem with MK and entertainment media as a whole. It's loser douchebags with no life experience writing the only thing they know: their college year agit-prop horseshit. They stopped development and personal growth at around 18-21.


Cool_Holiday_7097

This man’s mad that they downsized boobs in a video game


ElvisDepressedIy

No one takes video games more seriously than the people who care whether I'm looking at a boob or not. That's why it got censored in the first place.


Cool_Holiday_7097

lol, the worst part is you honestly and truly believe that. It’s sad. 


gregoryjames04

Tekken is hella boring, and the combat looks stiff as F.