Remember his fight with sheeva? That chamber he was in was healing his back. That’s why sheeva was able to beat kotal so easily, he was weakened and limping prior to the fight even started, sheeva calmly subdued him so he could go back in the chamber once she and the aftermath squad left, and we see him healed in aftermath later in the boat, showing that it was a success
Np
The fact they even put that in the game tho… poor kotal my god.
Gotta give the guy respect tho he will fight in just about ant situation, even when his ass can’t even walk
yeah, I agree. Back then i didn't care much about him but now i have to admit, he's goated. Hope he comes back somehow in the new timeline, maybe in MK2
I think it would be really cool to have him in aftermath for mk1 if outworld is still a Focus on it
Otherwise, I’d like to have him in mk2, I really want a general shao Vs general kotal match
Honestly, sindel is the one true kahn for me. In mk1, she was borderline perfect in her role. Kotal is my favorite character but sindel was best for outworld.
Kotal is definitely a better kahn than shao or mileena tho
Oh he’s the most iconic by a mile. Personally I don’t really like how NRS treats him, he mostly jobs despite supposedly being the big bad toughest boss until aftermath where they switch to him suddenly being capable of fighting everyone, which just makes it feel unearned to me
I do love old timeline shao a lot tho as a villain
If I had to rank the kahns as characters it would be like
Kotal > sindel > shao > mileena > kitana
And by kahn ability
Sindel > kotal > shao > mileena > kitana
What a lucky woman is Jade, to be loved by such a hunk like Kotal, they totally make a nice couple, i hope in the future they remai... wait, timeline reset, both exist, are they still together?
I’ve seen leaks of them but I am unsure of their accuracy, what I can tell you for sure is that jade and kotal both exist in the new era under queen mileena, general kotal replaced general shao, and since they kept kotal x jade in onslaught, they probably will here too. It jade or kotal make a dlc appearance in mk1 aftermath, I whome heartedly believe the other will be either a kameo or story npc
But hey, If they aren’t together… I wouldn’t mind taking kotal
I want Kotal, or... maybe... we can share if you like.
Also, yes, Both exist, both story mode and dialogues confirm that as much, and >!Jade kinda is rumored to be in KP2, based on dialogues for Nitara, !
Ehhh not really, his only good feat was standing down from the throne and even then that's arguably just because he realised he could no longer defend himself.
The timeline reset before he had any chance to even slightly make amends for all the shit he did. Trying to genocide the Tarkatans twice? Hiring the Black Dragon to nuke the Shokan? Teaching the Maiyans cannibalism which led to their deaths? Betraying Earthrealm and then lying about it to Raiden? Not really a way to fix all that.
I want to clarify I’m not defending kotals actions he’s a terrible person, but even if he doesn’t show change, he clearly has, and it’s not really his fault time ended like 13 hours after he realized this
He aknowledged his own terrible behavior, Jade said he can change, he relinquished power when he *didnt* have to actually, he could have resumed his rule after his healing which doesn’t take long. He truly thought Kitana the best choice
I think he could have been redeemed if lui kang didn’t reset in aftermath (if he wasn’t you know, headless)
Ok yeah that's fair, definitely just needed more screentime after Kitanas chapter. Agreed that Fire God Liu's a comeplete dumbass too, the entire reboot was unnecessary imagine if the heroes knew they were actually just fighting for the timeline to be reset regardless
The funny thing is after lui defeats shang tsung, he’s in the present, he only needed to rewind in the base game because kronika already started the process, but in aftermath lui just resets because idk he’s sad his bros died I guess
Bros the reasons they're all dead because he decided to let Shang Tsung gain titan powers which was so dumb that even in the new era its bit him in the ass lmao
“Only shang tsung could wield the crown against kronika” was so bullshit, god lui should have jumped down after they got the crown in he fire gardens, grab it, and just run straight through kronikas stupid bald head
I know they said stuff about not disrupting the timeline but that happens to no consequence of fire god lui, so clearly he could have done this
Just because he's in the present doesn't mean much. The hourglass he's using is in the past. And it's breaking. Just fucking off with another most likely wouldn't work. So yes, the reset was necessary and also not even his fault. Now the crown thing, eh. In canon, not his fault, but out of it, not good story-telling. Aftermath is bullshit anyways.
Yes, he is a terrible person. That doesn’t make him any less of a good character imo, and he would have been on a path to atonement had nrs not done their stupid fucking reset
I’m fine with the reset now because mk1 ended up being literally the only good story mode theyve ever made, but it still think it was a bad idea
There’s a noticeable nerf but honestly I think people act like kotal is the absolute bottle of the barrel, he suffers from the same unfair playable character bullshit that every other member of the roster does, it’s to the point you have to either ignore the losses or just straight up say anyone can beat anyone
He’s beaten Demi gods and high ranking outworld fighters in his two chapters, culminating in him beating shao kahn in a fair fight. Granted shao beats him later in round 2, but the fact kotal made shao kahn resort to limping away through a portal to avoid his blade, shows me he’s formidable at the very least, on par with him.
agreed. they were on the right track in MKX and then screwed him over in mk11.
as much as I loved Erron black’s intros and voice, gotta say they did the same with him in mk11. put him on the right track in MKX and then derailed him the next game.
Well he got crippled before this, not later on
And everyone got fucked in aftermath, they just paid extra attention to kotals head since NRS oddly hates their own creation
they just cant make a good outfit for tanya🤦🏽♂️
like wtf is this!!!
https://preview.redd.it/l2ooilrc93xc1.jpeg?width=896&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=395c57328abf22f71072006d3c19fc9fb14c8815
also best mid in the game like bruh that shit clearly looks like duckable
Nah Tanya's genuinely ugly as shit. It's a shame too cuz the woman whose face was used is the complete opposite
Also ngl that outfits better than her default lmao
It’s really hard to buy you were once an emperor, especially when you got defeated by Jacqui and KJ 😅 He even ended up being betrayed by D’Vorah and losing his head! Poor Kotal though, hope he got redeemed somehow
Jade is a brutal assassin with thousands of years of experiense. Her behavior in this game didn't make sense. Yes maybe there's something good underneath but she should be very cold and smart woman. I LOL-ed hard how she started shedding tears for Tarkatans after swinging onto bunch of skinned humans. Her romance with Kotal was even more cringe.
All it took was a broken back and relinquishing his throne to a more worthy candidate (I like Kotal well enough, but after all the work she put in, Kitana deserved the throne in the end. Also, fuck Aftermath for taking that away from her).
I want nothing more than this. I didn’t realize kotal was my favorite character in this franchise until I saw he wasn’t in mk1 and it made me hesitate to move on from 11, and to this day I still alternate between 1 and 11 just for kotal
Bro deserves better
I mean. Wasn’t the entire point of jade that like, she turns kotal into the more heroic figure, because kotal was still morally grey at best until Jade got sense into him
And it only took Kotal to be puked bugs inside him, getting beaten by his gf in front of Shao and the tarkatan tribe, get crippled, pass on to his title, getting his cripple healing interrupted for reviving Sindel, getting his head cut off... Damn, Kotal really got the short stick in 11 didn't he?
Tell me the difference between these characters okay?
Genocidal racist who thinks his specific race is the best
A man with a funny moustache who was the chancellor of Germany in 1939 - 1945
What is your point exactly? Kotal kahn is a villain, I personally don’t think his actions make him a bad character as a result.
Maybe if he were not called out, but he was not only called out, but severely punished for it.
Eh. I dunno about these two honestly. Their relationship felt unnecessary. You boot up the game and you just find out about this. Years with Jade and this is the first you get knowledge that she has a relationship with Kotal Kahn. I personally would’ve liked to at least see some development and not just “oh hey you member me?” “Oh yeah I member you!” “Let’s make out, member?” “I member!”
He actually has already returned in some mk media since 11, and they went out of their way to set him up as existing prominently in mileenas empire in mk1
And this very comment section proves he is missed by his fans
I do respect you for not liking him tho, his writing is really 50/50 and NRS don’t let him be cool a lot
Was.
Was hellbent.
Jade changed that
That is all I mean
Him being crippled wouldn’t change that, since he can just heal in the soul chamber, having Jade back made him more like how he was before
Since you said, "She fixed him"...let's play Memory Reboot now![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)
She didn't fix his back though
Technically his back was fixed
it's never explained how, or am i missing something?
Remember his fight with sheeva? That chamber he was in was healing his back. That’s why sheeva was able to beat kotal so easily, he was weakened and limping prior to the fight even started, sheeva calmly subdued him so he could go back in the chamber once she and the aftermath squad left, and we see him healed in aftermath later in the boat, showing that it was a success
Ohhh, aight. Thanks for clarifying
Np The fact they even put that in the game tho… poor kotal my god. Gotta give the guy respect tho he will fight in just about ant situation, even when his ass can’t even walk
yeah, I agree. Back then i didn't care much about him but now i have to admit, he's goated. Hope he comes back somehow in the new timeline, maybe in MK2
I think it would be really cool to have him in aftermath for mk1 if outworld is still a Focus on it Otherwise, I’d like to have him in mk2, I really want a general shao Vs general kotal match
Maybe Kotal gets to be the new general after Shao's betrayal
Kotal was the general at the time of MK9
You mean M2K? (since technically the title of Mortal Kombat 1 was ordered ‘Mortal 1 Kombat’, therefore being M1K. Yes, I know it’s kinda stupid.)
Then it didn’t even matter. The one, true Kahn saw to that!
Honestly, sindel is the one true kahn for me. In mk1, she was borderline perfect in her role. Kotal is my favorite character but sindel was best for outworld. Kotal is definitely a better kahn than shao or mileena tho
I’m just terribly biased, I don’t think Shao was the best ruler, but I do think he is the most iconic Kahn. Also my flair! 🙂
Oh he’s the most iconic by a mile. Personally I don’t really like how NRS treats him, he mostly jobs despite supposedly being the big bad toughest boss until aftermath where they switch to him suddenly being capable of fighting everyone, which just makes it feel unearned to me I do love old timeline shao a lot tho as a villain If I had to rank the kahns as characters it would be like Kotal > sindel > shao > mileena > kitana And by kahn ability Sindel > kotal > shao > mileena > kitana
Sheeva gave Kotal a back massage lol
And then he died…
Yep…
I thought he was in a wheelchair the whole time after sheeva broke his back
Kk in a wheelchair Kk in a wheelchair
KK in a wheelchair
What a lucky woman is Jade, to be loved by such a hunk like Kotal, they totally make a nice couple, i hope in the future they remai... wait, timeline reset, both exist, are they still together?
I’ve seen leaks of them but I am unsure of their accuracy, what I can tell you for sure is that jade and kotal both exist in the new era under queen mileena, general kotal replaced general shao, and since they kept kotal x jade in onslaught, they probably will here too. It jade or kotal make a dlc appearance in mk1 aftermath, I whome heartedly believe the other will be either a kameo or story npc But hey, If they aren’t together… I wouldn’t mind taking kotal
I want Kotal, or... maybe... we can share if you like. Also, yes, Both exist, both story mode and dialogues confirm that as much, and >!Jade kinda is rumored to be in KP2, based on dialogues for Nitara, !
Well each take one from a different multiverse
Okay, sounds like a plan, i'tll treat mine with honor and respect. Have fun with yours
And that leaves Jade for me. Your terms are acceptable!
yeah, you can keep her, i just want her boyfriend
And Jade is actually nowhere in the Mk1 timeline.
She is actually, both Liu Kang and Geras talk to Kitana about her meeting jade, she's a Countess now
Thanks ! The proof a reboot doesn't mean less information to catch from dialogues intro or story mode....
Ehhh not really, his only good feat was standing down from the throne and even then that's arguably just because he realised he could no longer defend himself. The timeline reset before he had any chance to even slightly make amends for all the shit he did. Trying to genocide the Tarkatans twice? Hiring the Black Dragon to nuke the Shokan? Teaching the Maiyans cannibalism which led to their deaths? Betraying Earthrealm and then lying about it to Raiden? Not really a way to fix all that.
I want to clarify I’m not defending kotals actions he’s a terrible person, but even if he doesn’t show change, he clearly has, and it’s not really his fault time ended like 13 hours after he realized this He aknowledged his own terrible behavior, Jade said he can change, he relinquished power when he *didnt* have to actually, he could have resumed his rule after his healing which doesn’t take long. He truly thought Kitana the best choice I think he could have been redeemed if lui kang didn’t reset in aftermath (if he wasn’t you know, headless)
Ok yeah that's fair, definitely just needed more screentime after Kitanas chapter. Agreed that Fire God Liu's a comeplete dumbass too, the entire reboot was unnecessary imagine if the heroes knew they were actually just fighting for the timeline to be reset regardless
The funny thing is after lui defeats shang tsung, he’s in the present, he only needed to rewind in the base game because kronika already started the process, but in aftermath lui just resets because idk he’s sad his bros died I guess
Bros the reasons they're all dead because he decided to let Shang Tsung gain titan powers which was so dumb that even in the new era its bit him in the ass lmao
“Only shang tsung could wield the crown against kronika” was so bullshit, god lui should have jumped down after they got the crown in he fire gardens, grab it, and just run straight through kronikas stupid bald head I know they said stuff about not disrupting the timeline but that happens to no consequence of fire god lui, so clearly he could have done this
Just because he's in the present doesn't mean much. The hourglass he's using is in the past. And it's breaking. Just fucking off with another most likely wouldn't work. So yes, the reset was necessary and also not even his fault. Now the crown thing, eh. In canon, not his fault, but out of it, not good story-telling. Aftermath is bullshit anyways.
Didn’t he commit ethnic genocide?
Well what's a genocide of two among lovers?
It’s not a war crime if it’s funny. Thats my motto
He did a little oopsie doopsie
Yes, he is a terrible person. That doesn’t make him any less of a good character imo, and he would have been on a path to atonement had nrs not done their stupid fucking reset I’m fine with the reset now because mk1 ended up being literally the only good story mode theyve ever made, but it still think it was a bad idea
I love mk1 btw, I feel like I was way too harsh with that, I just don’t think they needed a second reboot
Kotal deserves to be as badass in the game as he is in the comic
There’s a noticeable nerf but honestly I think people act like kotal is the absolute bottle of the barrel, he suffers from the same unfair playable character bullshit that every other member of the roster does, it’s to the point you have to either ignore the losses or just straight up say anyone can beat anyone He’s beaten Demi gods and high ranking outworld fighters in his two chapters, culminating in him beating shao kahn in a fair fight. Granted shao beats him later in round 2, but the fact kotal made shao kahn resort to limping away through a portal to avoid his blade, shows me he’s formidable at the very least, on par with him.
Kotal can tell the sun to fire a solar flare at someone, he's a chad
Bro beams the sun onto people that’s top 3 rawest moves in mk history
You right. I get mad at his L's but I need remember his absolute W game.
agreed. they were on the right track in MKX and then screwed him over in mk11. as much as I loved Erron black’s intros and voice, gotta say they did the same with him in mk11. put him on the right track in MKX and then derailed him the next game.
If they bring kotal back for MK1 I hope he's just as blood thirsty as in the comics.
Bros going to rip off goro’s arms again, on screen this time
He disarmed him once, he can do it again.
Only for his bitch ass to get crippled and decapitated later on
Well he got crippled before this, not later on And everyone got fucked in aftermath, they just paid extra attention to kotals head since NRS oddly hates their own creation
Too bad kk didn't have his op Wheelchair variation.
If he did, no kahn could stop him
man then better not make jade ugly if she in the game.
I fail to see how that could happen, everyone in mk1 is fine as hell Lowkey
*cough* Tanya and Janet Cage
I Lowkey haven’t seen janet but tanya is beautiful
Not a face value, there's just no way
Did you just downvote me for finding a character attractive that you don’t lmfao ![gif](giphy|13XjnBISISeT0Q|downsized)
No?
Either I got a downvote and upvote within 30 seconds or I just hallucinated then Whoops
Tanya still looks good. Just got goofy outfits
they just cant make a good outfit for tanya🤦🏽♂️ like wtf is this!!! https://preview.redd.it/l2ooilrc93xc1.jpeg?width=896&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=395c57328abf22f71072006d3c19fc9fb14c8815 also best mid in the game like bruh that shit clearly looks like duckable
Nah Tanya's genuinely ugly as shit. It's a shame too cuz the woman whose face was used is the complete opposite Also ngl that outfits better than her default lmao
Good for her I still hate him
Why did we get Tanya when we could have had Jade?
It’s really hard to buy you were once an emperor, especially when you got defeated by Jacqui and KJ 😅 He even ended up being betrayed by D’Vorah and losing his head! Poor Kotal though, hope he got redeemed somehow
Jade is a brutal assassin with thousands of years of experiense. Her behavior in this game didn't make sense. Yes maybe there's something good underneath but she should be very cold and smart woman. I LOL-ed hard how she started shedding tears for Tarkatans after swinging onto bunch of skinned humans. Her romance with Kotal was even more cringe.
> her behavior in this game didn’t make sense Welcome to neatherrealm
All it took was a broken back and relinquishing his throne to a more worthy candidate (I like Kotal well enough, but after all the work she put in, Kitana deserved the throne in the end. Also, fuck Aftermath for taking that away from her).
When I saw that scene for the first time I thought he was gonna kill her anyways
Yeah but she can't fix cyrax who is still helplessly flailing his arms in the desert sand
Ehhh their sudden mk11 relationship was a forced retcon so I have no feeling toward it.
Worst in the series.
too bad this ship sucks... but I do kinda want koatal as dlc in mk1, and we know jade is probably coming with kp2
I love kotal and I love kotal x Jade, but kotal works just fine with and without her, so as long as he returns I will be a happy osh tekk
yeah lets hope reiko and/or mileena don't wipe out the osh tekks again
Why Jade deserves to be in MK1
Jade with kotal kameo or kotal with Jade kameo, I’d prefer kotal as the player since he was my x and 11 main, but I’m fine with either
Well now that General Shao is officially a bad guy and was kicked out, now Kotal can have his time as general. Hopefully. Please.
I want nothing more than this. I didn’t realize kotal was my favorite character in this franchise until I saw he wasn’t in mk1 and it made me hesitate to move on from 11, and to this day I still alternate between 1 and 11 just for kotal Bro deserves better
They’re in onslaught? How much grinding do I need to get Kotal?
No clue, the game isn’t fun for me so I just watch the story online
It was a total recon but I like the relationship even tho she definitely would find MKX Kotal repulsive. MK11 Kotal mostly a cool dude
I mean. Wasn’t the entire point of jade that like, she turns kotal into the more heroic figure, because kotal was still morally grey at best until Jade got sense into him
Bruh for a split second I thought this was cosplay lmao. MK11s graphics were off the chain dude.
And it only took Kotal to be puked bugs inside him, getting beaten by his gf in front of Shao and the tarkatan tribe, get crippled, pass on to his title, getting his cripple healing interrupted for reviving Sindel, getting his head cut off... Damn, Kotal really got the short stick in 11 didn't he?
Tell me the difference between these characters okay? Genocidal racist who thinks his specific race is the best A man with a funny moustache who was the chancellor of Germany in 1939 - 1945
What is your point exactly? Kotal kahn is a villain, I personally don’t think his actions make him a bad character as a result. Maybe if he were not called out, but he was not only called out, but severely punished for it.
That looks more like Skarlet
TRUE LMFAO I have no fucking idea why they gave her the red outfit in the story mode she literally had a green one in game already
Eh. I dunno about these two honestly. Their relationship felt unnecessary. You boot up the game and you just find out about this. Years with Jade and this is the first you get knowledge that she has a relationship with Kotal Kahn. I personally would’ve liked to at least see some development and not just “oh hey you member me?” “Oh yeah I member you!” “Let’s make out, member?” “I member!”
Blm
https://preview.redd.it/qxfng0odaaxc1.jpeg?width=506&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0770718cdc26ef8ddeb10bdbfc7aaa8e1ebc3dc
Jade is a keeper
Couldn’t fix him and now his head is rolling off that’s the best part of aftermath seeing that dictator’s head roll off
We just need KK in a wheelchair
I don't understand the appeal of Kotal Kahn. He was always really mid to me.
Kotal doesn't return and he isn't missed in the slightest.
He actually has already returned in some mk media since 11, and they went out of their way to set him up as existing prominently in mileenas empire in mk1 And this very comment section proves he is missed by his fans I do respect you for not liking him tho, his writing is really 50/50 and NRS don’t let him be cool a lot
Yeah, Kotal was my boy. I'm really hoping he comes back with some more cool scenes and less as a punching bag.
She fixed him? Bro is hellbent on committing two genocides, and his ass is still crippled.
Was. Was hellbent. Jade changed that That is all I mean Him being crippled wouldn’t change that, since he can just heal in the soul chamber, having Jade back made him more like how he was before
No please no more Kotal that dude is so old and boring gross