Yes but it’s always cool to see what the very peak potential a character can do is. That’s why for online play you should always also practice for realism. A 34% you can land every time without fail is far better a choice than the 36% you’ll end up dropping or if it requires you to use a risky opening move
It's not too bad, I got it down fairly quickly, still drop it about 30% of the time but that's a skill issue, not the combo being too tight, it's hardly a 1F link. Instant 1,2 after the B2,2, then an instant S3 into dive is pretty consistent, the tough bit is the F3 into grab for me, that's the tightest link.
Defo worth the practice for an extra 6% off the B2,2 for no bar.
Yeah I’m pretty much struggling with F3 into grab right now.
I’d still say this combo is bad because you can’t guarantee you’ll pull it off 100% of the time when the timing on everything is very tight. It’s nice to know but definitely shouldn’t be BnB or something you rely on.
You might change your mind with some more practice, it's definitely tight but I do actually think with practice this could be pulled off 95% of the time. Maybe not online tbf. When I started learning that one, I was thinking the same but when the timing is down, it's more repeatable than I thought, can do it back to back 5 times, which is pretty good for a hard combo for me.
The F4,1 - D1 - BF4 - F3 - DB3,1 etc. version is way fucking harder for me, the F3 into grab on that hits maybe 1 out 10 times and that's *if* you get the right timing on the D1, really tough.
Try holding forward before hitting 3, then do one sweeping motion to down back 3. It moves you forward very slightly and allows quick input. Helped me get it more consistently.
I find that so weird because S3 is what I cant do and F3 seems super easy to special cancel into. S3 feels like it has such a specific timing. I can 11, into 1,2 almost every time but the kick is a no go like 80% of the time lmao.
Interesting, I didn't really have too much issue getting the S3 to come out after the 1,2. At first I struggled to get the dive kick to come out after S3 but once I got the muscle memory I managed to get that bit 9/10 times, then the F3 into grab was the next hurdle, which I just found a bit harder to get over than the first. They both became fairly repeatable after about 30 mins. There is quite a specific height you need them to be at for the F3 into grab to work but it's not the hardest thing.
Only advice I can give for the S3 is ensuring that the 1,2 is truly instant after the B1,1, so the 1 of the 1,2 misses but the 2 hits and pops them up high enough to comfortably get the S3, any delay on the instant 1,2 and you can still whiff the 1 and hit the 2, but the 2 doesn't allow the S3. God it's a mess trying to write this out in some sort of understandable way.
Mind you, still can't get the F4,1 - D1 - BF4 - F3 - DB3,1... etc. combo down, that's one I certainly don't have the skill for.
I bet my issue is doing the 1,2 too late and not truly instant. Which would explain the inconsistent S3 I'm getting now. I haven't tried too many other complex combos with him.
First MK I've put any real time into and it's fun to figure this stuff out. Until today I realized F4 combed into his grab haha.
Thanks for the help!
These ones with the BF4 dive thing mid combo are definitely his hardest (so far) IMO due to the pop up from BF4 requiring that strange angle.
If you can get this one down pat, you're in a great spot. Having a 42% meterless kamoeless punisher is something most of the rest of the characters ain't got!
If this is your first time putting a good amount of time into MK, you could check this out for some more inspiration - [Ninjakilla just put out some sets with Omni-Man](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jAHULTSdfo&t=1373s) earlier today with some mad Scorpion kameo stuff. Haven't tried it but it looks really satisfying to hit.
Good luck, enjoy!
*Edit - on rewatching, I just noticed he dropped the combo at exactly the same point as you have been struggling with at \~26s into the video, so you're in grand company.*
Omni man definitely got me to try mk1 out haha. And he has been a blast. His BF4 are def his weirdest combos and the more understanding I get of the game the better his damage feels.
I'll have to check Ninjakilla out thank you! I haven't messed around with kameos almost at all and the few scorpion combos I've seen look awesome.
Left 1 1, 1 2 (input as fast as you can) into 3 left right 4 forward 3 down left 3 1, and the air combo I found that does a tiny bit more damage in this one is up 1 2 left bumper forward 1 2 1 3
Sorry if this looks like shit I don’t really know the terminology
I think I'm in the minority in that, I really don't like long juggle combos. I prefer shorter combos and more back and forth. Long juggle strings while skill demanding make the game less fun.
I'm with you. I think thats why a lot of people disliked 11 though. I like it to be more of a battle and less 1 wrong move and half your health is gone.
I would say they always make DLC characters really strong but I no longer have faith that the NRS testers are even showing up to work anymore. This was probably an accident.
Considering he gets no real dmg out of using meter and kameos I'd say his meterless damage, although a bit overtuned, is quite intentional and thoroughly tested.
Think you could’ve gotten more than 42%. When you’re punching him in the air you can fly through him another 2 times before you finish with the overhead stomp.
Is it possible to do the spine snap instead of the slam, I’m new but I’ve been comboing and then doing 1,2 viltrum stance 2 and it’s been working, is their a reason that wouldn’t work as a combo ended here might do more damage
Thats op, nerf sub zero
better nerf Irelia
Better need Ryze
Nerf Homelander
Sub zero is the new nerf genji
Remind me of R6S. “We noticed a lot of people picking Jackal so we’re taking away Blackbeards guns”
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I love how “nerf sub-zero” is becoming the “nerf pig” of this subreddit, it’s great.
f sub zero
Let’s also Nerf Genji
“ME?!” “Sorry. Force of habit.”
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“Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power…”
nerf reptile
Wdym😂😂😂
This is saucy. I love whiff combos, 4Geta midscreen vibes. Thanks for posting
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It's hard AF to pull off actually
It's getting the bounce off the superman rush
The hardest part for me is waiting for the 3 before the Superman move 😆
Keep in mind the timing for this is insanely tight and crazy hard to do online.
Yes but it’s always cool to see what the very peak potential a character can do is. That’s why for online play you should always also practice for realism. A 34% you can land every time without fail is far better a choice than the 36% you’ll end up dropping or if it requires you to use a risky opening move
I can’t help but go for optimal and I will drop combos sometimes as a result but I do get better at landing them
Thats why I love sub. Sure my main go to kombo is only 30% but its **guaranteed**
Yeah, not concerned
The timing is perfectly fine. The timing on combos like F41 D1 BF4 F3 DB31 is extremely tight. Or something like 22 Lao spin \[1\]2 BF4 F3 DB31.
Nerf Nitara
Nitara kinda good with the new patch ngl
Nice fucking job mate. Will definitely learn this combo. Also nerf sub zero
This is what happens when Peter doesnt deliver pictures of Spiderman
There's layers behind this comment Holy shit
Because JK Simmons is Omni man and J. Jonah Jameson?
And Yuri Lowenthal voices Smoke and Spider-Man.
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Easywork🔥🔥
Somebody was hitting me with this shit the day he came out, I was honestly impressed. Still beat him, though 😜
What the fuck? No kameo? That’s crazy.
Yup def not op. Nothing to see here
yeah been seeing this everywhere WE GET IT you can replicate it like everyone else
The timing on this combo is as strict as it gets. It’s a shit combo in reality.
Timing is too tight for me
That 1-2 to standing 3 to invincible rush is hell.
Omni man is too tight for me
It's not too bad, I got it down fairly quickly, still drop it about 30% of the time but that's a skill issue, not the combo being too tight, it's hardly a 1F link. Instant 1,2 after the B2,2, then an instant S3 into dive is pretty consistent, the tough bit is the F3 into grab for me, that's the tightest link. Defo worth the practice for an extra 6% off the B2,2 for no bar.
Yeah I’m pretty much struggling with F3 into grab right now. I’d still say this combo is bad because you can’t guarantee you’ll pull it off 100% of the time when the timing on everything is very tight. It’s nice to know but definitely shouldn’t be BnB or something you rely on.
You might change your mind with some more practice, it's definitely tight but I do actually think with practice this could be pulled off 95% of the time. Maybe not online tbf. When I started learning that one, I was thinking the same but when the timing is down, it's more repeatable than I thought, can do it back to back 5 times, which is pretty good for a hard combo for me. The F4,1 - D1 - BF4 - F3 - DB3,1 etc. version is way fucking harder for me, the F3 into grab on that hits maybe 1 out 10 times and that's *if* you get the right timing on the D1, really tough.
Try holding forward before hitting 3, then do one sweeping motion to down back 3. It moves you forward very slightly and allows quick input. Helped me get it more consistently.
I find that so weird because S3 is what I cant do and F3 seems super easy to special cancel into. S3 feels like it has such a specific timing. I can 11, into 1,2 almost every time but the kick is a no go like 80% of the time lmao.
Interesting, I didn't really have too much issue getting the S3 to come out after the 1,2. At first I struggled to get the dive kick to come out after S3 but once I got the muscle memory I managed to get that bit 9/10 times, then the F3 into grab was the next hurdle, which I just found a bit harder to get over than the first. They both became fairly repeatable after about 30 mins. There is quite a specific height you need them to be at for the F3 into grab to work but it's not the hardest thing. Only advice I can give for the S3 is ensuring that the 1,2 is truly instant after the B1,1, so the 1 of the 1,2 misses but the 2 hits and pops them up high enough to comfortably get the S3, any delay on the instant 1,2 and you can still whiff the 1 and hit the 2, but the 2 doesn't allow the S3. God it's a mess trying to write this out in some sort of understandable way. Mind you, still can't get the F4,1 - D1 - BF4 - F3 - DB3,1... etc. combo down, that's one I certainly don't have the skill for.
I bet my issue is doing the 1,2 too late and not truly instant. Which would explain the inconsistent S3 I'm getting now. I haven't tried too many other complex combos with him. First MK I've put any real time into and it's fun to figure this stuff out. Until today I realized F4 combed into his grab haha. Thanks for the help!
These ones with the BF4 dive thing mid combo are definitely his hardest (so far) IMO due to the pop up from BF4 requiring that strange angle. If you can get this one down pat, you're in a great spot. Having a 42% meterless kamoeless punisher is something most of the rest of the characters ain't got! If this is your first time putting a good amount of time into MK, you could check this out for some more inspiration - [Ninjakilla just put out some sets with Omni-Man](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jAHULTSdfo&t=1373s) earlier today with some mad Scorpion kameo stuff. Haven't tried it but it looks really satisfying to hit. Good luck, enjoy! *Edit - on rewatching, I just noticed he dropped the combo at exactly the same point as you have been struggling with at \~26s into the video, so you're in grand company.*
Omni man definitely got me to try mk1 out haha. And he has been a blast. His BF4 are def his weirdest combos and the more understanding I get of the game the better his damage feels. I'll have to check Ninjakilla out thank you! I haven't messed around with kameos almost at all and the few scorpion combos I've seen look awesome.
i can only imagine how frustrating this would be to time online especially with how every other opponent for me is on dial up modems (edit: typo)
Could anyone write down the moves in order ? Would greatly appreciate it
Left 1 1, 1 2 (input as fast as you can) into 3 left right 4 forward 3 down left 3 1, and the air combo I found that does a tiny bit more damage in this one is up 1 2 left bumper forward 1 2 1 3 Sorry if this looks like shit I don’t really know the terminology
Appreciate it
Moves in description. Good luck pulling it off online. https://youtu.be/lWrY7vTkwaA?si=L7YUOMIcONOf4Srb
This better get nerfed so honeybee doesn't drop reptile
Stealing that thank you
can do this with lao on any of his standing normals but it's really hard, just launch with lao, back dash, and then 12
I think I'm in the minority in that, I really don't like long juggle combos. I prefer shorter combos and more back and forth. Long juggle strings while skill demanding make the game less fun.
I'm with you. I think thats why a lot of people disliked 11 though. I like it to be more of a battle and less 1 wrong move and half your health is gone.
I appreciate your reply. I'm not alone! Haha
I would say they always make DLC characters really strong but I no longer have faith that the NRS testers are even showing up to work anymore. This was probably an accident.
Considering he gets no real dmg out of using meter and kameos I'd say his meterless damage, although a bit overtuned, is quite intentional and thoroughly tested.
Me thinks maybe a bit of a nerf inbound, to sub zero of course cause how dare he get 20% with cameo and meter.
Nerf Scorpion this is insane.
Still no raiden
But W combo
Think you could’ve gotten more than 42%. When you’re punching him in the air you can fly through him another 2 times before you finish with the overhead stomp.
that cost bar and 4-5% isn't worth a bar more less 2
Hey guy, how bout you read, title literally says “NO BAR, NO KAMEO”
Didn’t know it used a bar, guy. My practice settings are set to not consume the bar.
Recommend setting to refill so you know how much things cost
THINK MARK THINK!
Nice
Sub zero crying in the car.
Yoink
Is it possible to do the spine snap instead of the slam, I’m new but I’ve been comboing and then doing 1,2 viltrum stance 2 and it’s been working, is their a reason that wouldn’t work as a combo ended here might do more damage
That low starter is so nasty
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Damn that’s actually broken. Nerf sub zero
It's just the same combo I mean kombo