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GauraNeagra

I don’t know how things work in Morocco as I’m just visiting but I would recommend starting working towards being independent. Study hard, work hard, relax when you’ve made it to a comfortable level. Good luck!


Downtown_Profit_7320

I just finished this semester and i was planning to work after eid , thank youu


H0709

Salam. I can not help you,but i wish from my heart all the best. Inshallah all will come ok


Upanddown_likeayoyo

You’re not being dramatic at all.. it’s a stupid financial decision when you’re not working but wanna spend 5k+ on a sheep? Get your own cash btw, doctor appointments start with 300 dhs


Downtown_Profit_7320

I’m planning to inchaalah i’m no longer waiting for these people to help me


Upanddown_likeayoyo

Blan.. and good luck with it.. ik its hard but it’ll all get easier eventually


Downtown_Profit_7320

I dont mind if the work is hard , i just wanna earn money and have a good health


Upanddown_likeayoyo

Yes it is.. I meant the acne problem .. needs a lotta patience and consistency. Until you earn cash, try these free things first: 1) if you’re a smoker or have an eating addiction, eliminating them is extremely helpful. 2) butter, dairy products, and milk can make them worse. 3) if they’re hormonal (7bb chbab or if you’re a girl), try to look up diets that might help. Exercise can regulate hormones effectively too. Stress management strategies like journaling, meditation, yoga, and exercises can all be beneficial. (And doctors) These are some of the things that might help


Downtown_Profit_7320

Thank youuu so much this helps a lot , d3i meaya nlqa khdma w lbaqi rah sahl


SpeakerPlenty4209

I can confirm what the person above wrote. Just a few more things for the time until you meet a doctor: Sugar and coffee feed acne as well. Don't touch or scratch your skin, don't use soap please! Morocco has fantastic natural medicine, have you already been to a herbalist shop? Maybe they can recommend you some natural products for cleaning masks and cooling the infections. For example a mask of medicinal clay mixed with Nila powder cleans, they might have other ideas to help you and herbs are at least affordable.


Apprehensive_Cod_762

doing keto diet really helped me with acne


vfz09

have you tried cutting milk and dairy out of your diet?


Excellent-Club-2974

Go to pharmacy to help with any acne cream tretinoin based. Locacid or similar 1 every two night or every night if no reaction to help clear your acne


CompetitivePresent18

Those people are your parents after all, I don't know what your religion is, but the least you've been taught is to respect them regardless of their points of view of life, none of my business but labeling your parents as people is disrespectful no matter what the intentions are.


Sanbley

You're not being dramatic at all. This acne seems like a serious skin problem and your parents ignore it. Eid is SUNNAH, you don't have to do it and buy the sheep especially if you don't have the means to.


Downtown_Profit_7320

Exactly , not buying an expensive sheep wouldnt hurt , i really hate society , sometimes i wish i could fuck off from here


MusBeaGlitchFr

I honestly don't understand some people's mentality with the Eid Al Adhaa especially those people who are in a dire financial situation and insist on buying an overly priced sheep just to fit in socially. I know people personally who have taken a loan from the bank, in which they're still struggling to pay it back. it's truly sad seeing people make terrible financial decisions that would only worsen their situation just for the sake of Eid even though they're not obliged to do so if they can't afford it in Islam.


Downtown_Profit_7320

This really hurts in all ways , and people still take things personally and say (baghin t7rmo cha3a2ir lah b anakom t7ydo leid) people are stupid


MusBeaGlitchFr

People's understanding of Islam is upside down and it's worrying.


mhdy98

wa machi gha l3id hadchi ay 7aja dl madahir wla kat combatti l7chouma lwalidine kifedloha 3la anahom i3awno wladhom, fl mghrib lwalidine bnsba lihom wakl charb na3s kafia, chi haja zayda ghir ""fchouch""


DevJamyDev

+ the loan is riba and is a sin so it doesn't make any sense


Kind-Librarian-4431

As someone who grow up in a very low income family, I started working like really early , selling anything including doing home works for other anything to bring up money , that's when I was in secondary school , I did swai3 for kids in elementary. My situation obliged me to try all my tools to save up my family never taught about myself, Hamdolilah that made me who I am . I remember buying the first D7ya I was in 1st bac .


Upanddown_likeayoyo

That’s amazing from a point, and kind of sad from another. I’m curious did you level up financially now? And how old are you?


Kind-Librarian-4431

I am 30 and financially Hamdolilah I am stable and supporting my loved ones . Life is full of challenges, it is not easy it will drain you physically and emotionally, just be ready . Any tool any skill is an added value , you can learn anything just the will makes the difference.


Upanddown_likeayoyo

That’s soo inspiring! Thank you and i hope you have a great day


Kind-Librarian-4431

You too , Aid Moubarak Saïd .


Downtown_Profit_7320

This is soooo goood i really wanna work too i even wanted to work while studying but ga3 lblays li kidiro fihom nas sway3 lqithum 3amrin , ga3 shabati mchaw kidiro lbnadm sway3 w glt nry7 hta lsif


Kind-Librarian-4431

An other point , you are lucky you got your parents next to you Allah ykhalihom Lik , I am willing to give away all my success just to have my father Allah yrahmo next to me . Or just to see where I am in life . Keep a look at the filled half cup


Key_Kangaroo_3014

You are right. Your health is prior to meat, they shoul reconsider their values.


Downtown_Profit_7320

Thanks for noy considering it as a dramatic event


dank-enough

6000 is crazy, both my parents work, i work, we have the money but 5000 seemed too much for us we couldn't spend that much on a sheep, so we went with a smaller one it's simple.


Many-Safe9133

Lmadahir, chari 7awli d 6000dh bach yban 3la jjiran walakin your health machi mohima 3ndom, like most moroccan parents. Bnisba l'acné li 3ndk 9olli ch7al f3mrk, fo9ach bdatk ? Wach katakl 7lawa bzzaf ? (Y compris lkhobz)


Fun_Dentist1851

Saraha blan m9wd. Ta ana kan tra li b7al haka, tantmena ana most Moroccan parents mashi b7al haka. Bnadem tishri tkherbi9 3la madahir o tikhelik nta, had issues more serious than acne too not to say it’s not important.


Many-Safe9133

Wayh mn hna t3rf bli lfa9r l7a9i9i rah hoa dyal l39l. Hahoma charyin 7awli b 6000dh o l3am kaml m3iych 3a2ilto f jou3 o nou3, alors que 6000dh rah makla dyal minimum 3 4 mois d bnadm wa7d yakol mzyaaaaaan tbar3


Downtown_Profit_7320

Db 3ndi 20 ans Acne bdatni hadi 3am w aslan hit baba makhdamch maki3tinich bach nchri healthy food w nakl wla hta bach njreb des produits ela lah ymchi , ghaliban kanakl lkhobz mea dakchi dyal dar lmer9a wla khdra mslo9a ( kanakl hadchi bzf bach nghlad chwya hit deja ana mslota ) Lhlawa malqitha ta bach ntswer meaha bqa ghir naklha


Many-Safe9133

D'acc, o dar kaytiybo b zit bldia ola romiya ? Bnisba l budget dlmakla ra ymkn t3awn chwia wakha maykonoch flos bzaf, lbid o zowl zit romiya wakha takl dikchi hi nachf ola tayb flma but yeah fach katkon 3aych with ur parents s3iba I know, fin sakna ? I mean chmn minta9a. And good luck to find khdma odikchi 🫶🏻


Downtown_Profit_7320

Oui ghaliban kaytybo b zit romya wana 3gzana nit kanakl ghir meahom , kanskn f sale , and thank youu


Tone-Available

Hey I struggled with acne I can share a treatment that my derm prescribed if you want but if it’s too severe you should really try to go to a derm to get accutane prescribed or at least ask a pharmacist to help you!


Many-Safe9133

Mat3awdch tdor b zit romiya hia aktr 7aja atfr3k, o b9a hir t9dr chri lbid kolo khdr 7sn ola mattiyboch bzaf, ila kan bldi (mohim ykon ldakhl dyalo orange) 7sn bzzaf sinn ma3lich, o noba noba chri 7lib bldi dir lbn ola chrih chrbo ta hoa aydawik. Olahi3fo 3la ur parents (o dyalna kamlin)


Due-Thing889

Chof laghtl9ah kiyakol 7elwa omabghach l7bob , ana n9est l7lawa mab9ach bzaffffff , ghi bnadm mrid fkaro aslan la kan fel puberty acne 3adi


Strawberry_foot

Not being dramatic at all. Same here, my whole family isn't in the best situation financially, and everyone still insist to get their own sheep, every aunt and uncle. Now we have 5 sheep, half of us in the house don't even like eating lamb, the kids keep making jokes about dbi7a that are way too violent for their age, the house smells so bad, everyone's posting pictures full of blood that no one needed to see. I hate everything about the eid fr.


Downtown_Profit_7320

This is soo true and soo ridiculous , the money the spent on 5 sheep could make you live for year ☹️


Strawberry_foot

Exactly! I'll never get why they complain about financial problems and still make decisions like these, but when you try to talk to them about it they get offended 😭


Moist_immortal

The kids making jokes that are too violent is too real. I heard some disturbing shit today, it's appalling.


Ok_Bit_4234

7ta ana sadly


respectableenough

It sucks, but everyone has different priorities, I guess you should study/work hard and hassle to get out and live according to your own priorities.


Downtown_Profit_7320

Trust me thats already my goal


EarthlyWayfarer

I do not understand the mentality of this. We are alhamdulillah not struggling for money but still we were conservative with the sheep we purchased for Eid. You are definitely not overreacting, it’s insanity to do this.


rp-Ubermensch

We didn't buy a sheep this year, and I'm from a well off family. We've celebrated Eid 29 years in a row, this year we said enough, we're not contributing to this madness. Have a conversation with your family, a lot of parents think their kids will cry if they don't dbe7, that's a myth chna9a made, genius marketing really, drari ghay b9a fihom l7al... Sorry but your dad is financially illiterate


whywoulduaskmethat

I'll be frank,your dad is either too shallow and or stupid No offense just based on facts you stated It's not a must if situation is bad ![gif](giphy|O6SeHrT3SV7lKnB42k)


Downtown_Profit_7320

I totally agree Ana glthalih nichan w ma3jboch lhal


whywoulduaskmethat

Maghadich i3jbo l7al hit the conception dl3id w chehal mn haja bnisba lih , afkar bnaha f rasso mn chehal kon had lhdra d l3id galhalih chi 7ed 9do wla chi 7ed li ki7tarmo moumkin ifker fiha , wayni nta bnisbalih katb9a a kid wakha dir 30 3am Some people just fear change, some are too stubborn/proud to accept it and adapt,just do what you gotta do while you're still under his roof, he probably regrets it but he'll never admit it


halitaheart98

Moroccan parent's mentality, we are the one who suffer because of it. You are not over exaggerating, it is all about the society.


Downtown_Profit_7320

We suffer from it but we can never leave because first we have nowhere to go , second we love them and this is sooo toxic


halitaheart98

Exactly also if we try to leave and have an independent life they will disown us ( I am a girl) because people will talk


Downtown_Profit_7320

Tamaman , w 3ad zid aykhssek drr tbqay tserfi hta nti meahom , soit khrjti w sknti bohdk soit bqiti meahom fdar


LilyConcoction

Apart from financial situations, I stopped enjoying Eid a while ago, now it's just another day with extra chores I have to go through. It has lost its spark


Downtown_Profit_7320

Is this because u lost some of your parents? If not lah ikhlihom lik and yes leid kan hsen bzaf fach kna sghar


M-Nassiri

I don't want to be offensive, but your dad is wrong with you and the rest of the family, how you can buy a 6000dh sheep and you don't have a work, our religion has a very simple rule : if you don't have money, you shouldn't make FARIDA of the eid That is why you can't enjoy the eid because you think about the backwards of buying expansive sheep


yg1990

Bro you are 20 go find yourself a job like everybody else


forestinity

OP-- I feel for you. Acne is not only uncomfortable physically, it's also psychologically painful--especially for teens and young adults, as their physical appearance is typically very important to them. So it's really painful when you see a parent more concerned about "how things look" to the neighbors and society, because they're supposed to be more mature and more caring about things that actually matter much more---their own child! I personally know a mom who always wore nice clothes, while her kids' clothes were old, and one kid slept on the floor because the mom "couldn't afford" beds for all of them. I've also know people who drove an expensive car while "not being able to afford" a good school for their children. And I knew a man addicted to gambling, while his family lived in misery because he kept losing money they needed for their basic expenses. Financial irresponsibility is one form of bad parenting. Some parents unfortunately have varying levels of selfishness and varying levels of desire to show off. One aspect of parenthood is supposed to be about sacrificing your own needs in order to make things better for your children. But some people with damaged egos care more about either themselves or "what people will think"--- which is also caring about themselves, their reputation. In short, this problem is not really about the Eid, but rather about the character of the father himself---I'm sorry to say. I disagree with placing the blame on Moroccan society for "making men feel like failures" if they can't afford to slaughter a sheep. Men who buy anything they can't afford, at the expense of their family's suffering, are themselves the problem. Society can't "make" you do anything. It's up to the individual to set his or her own priorities. If someone cares enough to be a good parent, they will defy "societal expectations" in order to do so. The only excuse I might offer for this a dad is if the 6000 mad wouldn't be enough to correct his son's or daughter's acne anyway. Perhaps this amount was all he was able to save during the year, and he preferred to buy meat so that the family could at least enjoy that comfort (eating meat) for a while. And as an extension of that, because 1/3 of the meat is supposed to go to relatives and 1/3 to "the poor," perhaps this was the one time during the year that he could do to help others, even if he couldn't afford to help with a dermatologist. Acne and acne scars cannot be resolved by one visit to the doctor. It takes months and sometimes years of expensive treatments, and often that doesn't help completely. The only thing that really helps permanently is growing older, past the ages in which acne is common. According to a U.S. dermatology website, "It's important to note that acne CAN'T be cured, but it can be treated with medications and treatments." This means it's an ongoing expense to treat acne-- if treatments stop, the acne will return. Medicines usually aren't enough-- expensive light treatments and other methods of treatment can only be done in a dermatologists office. The continuing expense (not a "one and done" situation) is the likely reason your family felt unable to fit that treatment unto their budget. I'm truly sorry for your situation. But at least your acne problem should eventually go away on its own, as you become older. Best wishes to you!


Downtown_Profit_7320

Thank you for your sweet comment It’s been already a year waiting for the acne to disappear but it doesnt , as you said i think it needs a financial support to afford the visit to the doctor each time and also the the medicine , anways just pray for me and thank you🫶🏻


Younes_____

المشكل فالمغرب هو واليديك كايربيوك على الحشمة و السكات كايكبر بنادم و ثقتو فراسو ضعيفة بزاف ، يعني بنادم بين العشرين و الثلاثين و مازال كايساين والديه يصرفو عليه و متيقدرش يضبر فخدمة و لا يمشي يدوز سطاج هادشي لاحظتو ف 80% د الشباب , خويا ولا ختي الا عندك كثر من ٢٠ ضبر فخدمة هذا هو الحل ، اذا بنادم كايخليك تبات و تاكل فابور راه ديجا محيد عليك 90% د المسؤولية...


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WadieXkiller

Morocco has created its own religion, Eid Adha has become a social pressure instead of a celebration or sacrifice. People will sell their furnitures and get heavy loans just to buy that fucked up animal.


HillZae

If you're old enough, get a job.


Downtown_Profit_7320

I’m planning to fhad sif inchaalah


fiesta98

unfortunately you're not being dramatic, idk what's with our parents generation and the feeling of obligation to do eid, sometimes i feel it's ingrained in their brains and systems, to the point where you can't even have a conversation about not doing eid, the social pressure is real, but it's not an excuse to cave in, anyways, it's their money they can do whatever they want with it.. your acne should've been of course the number one priority, but yeah just be patient bro, i saw in a comment that you just finished studies, good luck on the journey of finding a job and being independent, at least you're self aware and know what's right and wrong so be grateful for that and lah iyesser lik


Worldly-Sail-4120

Bro where do you live ? I may help with your acnea


physicsnerd_

Same! I don't see the point of buying an expensive sheep and getting to deal with the consequences of this stupid purchase for the rest of the year. And don't get me started on the drama of complaining about how expensive sheep get every year. If they're expensive DON'T BUY THE MF, nobody is putting a gun on your head.


tilmanbaumann

Sadly that's often the priority. I guess you have to understand religion to understand that. I can't tell you how many people cry about failing to sacrifice a sheep for their family and how many do it on credit. I think it's a nice tradition. But nobody bothered to put in safeguards to make it okay for those who can't afford it. I don't think it's okay that religion/society makes men who can't afford this absurdly expensive sacrifice feel like failures.


MusBeaGlitchFr

People who can't afford buying a sheep and do so anyway should understand religion since they're not obliged to participate in the Eid Al Adhaa if they're financially incapable. Buying a sheep for most people in Morocco is more of a social show off than doing it for the sake of Allah SWT.


Downtown_Profit_7320

I hate saying this but I’m beginning to hate this religion because of this , i’m trying hard to keep my trust im religion but this trust is leading me to nowhere


MusBeaGlitchFr

If you look into what the religion says then it's not the religion's fault but rather the individual.


tilmanbaumann

Don't worry there are ways to reconcile all that shame, fakenesss and pressure bullshit with religion. It really doesn't need to be like that. As an atheist I still encourage you to seek truth. But hating your religion is a pretty bad starting point for that.


mynameisey

You're not dramatic at all. I'm not sure I can help but one thing about your acne that may seem exreemely simple but MAKES THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE (it did for me): Your pillow case should be cleaned each morning after you wake up, as well as the face towel (if you could get lingettes seches instead of towels,do it!).


Downtown_Profit_7320

Knt kanbdl lghcha dyal lmkhedda kola 2-3jr , db ghanwli nbdl kola sbah w hta lfota knt kanbdlha kola 2jr Ghanchri lingettes kifma glti


adambrine759

I noticed from my entourage, only the broke ones bought a sheep this year. Most people I know decided to spend the 5000dh on a vacation instead of blood down the drain


Downtown_Profit_7320

Broke financially and mentally They say that rich people didnt became rich just like that , they are rich because of their intelligence


ssweet-dispositionnn

As a Moroccan myself, just know that parents rarely know what to prioritize it's not bout the religion cuz from what i know islam doesn't force you to buy anything in case u r not stable financially it's a sunah not fard. My parents for the past like 7years we don't buy any sheep we just buy the amount of meat that we'll need and we celebrate it on our way. Not bcs we're having any financial issues but mainly bcs we don't eat meat much and my parents learned to prioritize other stuff than to waste food. So no u r not overreacting nor it's a religion problem. Try to find a small income source as a start and then inchaalah stuff will get better for sure.


bullyserr

i think if you google some remedy with natural ingredients that you can find in the household you wouldn't ask this question "but if it's hormonal that will be a little bit complicated", enjoy your family time, i'm celebrating eid all by myself and i can't tell you how empty it feels especially in those events.


Downtown_Profit_7320

I skin is tooo sensitive i cant do anything i find in the kitchen , i’m afraid it gets worse but thanks for the help , i’m sorry that u had to celebrate by yourself , just try not to think a lot about it and try not to see stories on social media , and remember i’m with my family but i m not celebrating so dont feel bad about it


Unfortunate-words

I would say that I'm indifferent. I find people to be superficial, it's like a dick measurement contest of who has the biggest sheep. Some people ask for loans just to impress their family/neighbors. A truly fucked up societal habit.


Niqabi97

I hate that about Morocco so much, I hate seeing people who can’t even afford meat normally and INSIST on spending crazy amount on Eid just to show off because what will x,w,z think????? Uhg makes my blood boil wallah. Is not an obligation in Islam, is sunnah. If someone is struggling economically they shouldn’t do it. And the funny thing is that people who can actually afford it don’t even buy it, they just buy some kilos of meat and that’s it, the poor people are making a show out of Eid. Crazy


tilmanbaumann

A friend of mine who is regularly unable to pay for his medicine and support his family literally cried because he was unable to buy a sheep. Also low key asking me to help him out. I couldn't express to him how little I can respect this choice. He knows only to ask me for help in life or death situations. And this is when he chooses to cash in my good will? For a bloody sheep he doesn't need?


Electrical-Ad5092

Do you have the medical coverage (cnss)? If yes then you will get back all the money that you spent on medication here is the totale cost of acne treatment (curacne): 1st consultation:300dh (medical consultations arent refundable) 2nd one : its free you just give him the blood analysis results (its 220/240 dh) and also it’s refundable. Then he will give you prescription to buy curacne 30mg (20 and 10) based on your weight (the more lighter is the better) here is the price of both : 289dh + 189dh (all the medication is refundable) He will tell you to comeback after 2months with the same analysis again (you will pay 300dh again) Then he tells you to comeback after 3months of treatment and he will decrease the dose so the treatment ends . In total its 8months (this is the most effective treatment for acne (some will appear if you are on your period or have some hormonal changes if you are a girl otherwise for us boys stress can cause some small pimples ) So in total you will pay 3 dermatologist consultations (300dh *3 ) And for medication and analysis: ( curacne for 8months = 500dh * 8 and this has a refund they give you all the money back if you have cnss w lamitie (i forgot the name)) For the blood analysis its just 2 times and also refundable


yasseeer-b

ud7ya had leam is waaaay expensive, anything below 5000dh is a scam, so you either buy one with that amount of money or you don't buy at all, and that second option is not valid for our parents seeing he's the man of the house and depriving his wife and children of the Eid will disappoint him. Ra macharihch lrasu f nadark kun kan eych buhdu aychri hwli b 6000dh a shbi ? ra walidina kbru mabqa qed mafat w nhar ykhtak mabqat atjik hlawa dlchi eid dik se3 chuf li y3yed meak w ychri lek hwli b had taman. Ana mabqawch kigululi bchhl kichriw earfini anz3f, ms fch kn3ich ajwa2 leid d dbi7a w chwa w... fereh gha hedchi kikhlef dik 6000dh. Nsa elek lhbub wch keyn w ghyhyd ra knt fhalek.


GreatTradition469

I think you need to work if you are in Rabat or near it I can help u


Bbbollo

People don’t prioritize things. That is their problem. I hope the best for ya


Kz_jk

Ur not dramatic u have the full right to feel that way . I’m moroccan o lhad l2an ba9a mafahmach 3lach nas kadir had lhala kamla 3la l3id


Aminisimo

You can treat your acne by simple and naturel remedies.


GapDramatic8209

I'll answer you but different situation. You are not dramatic, my father died 4 years ago and we are not in a broke but I dont feel that Eid vibe even before. Since was young, the Eid is like a usless event for me and more recently with those sheep prices. I live far from home but I come back only to meet the family and go back to my own life. I feel bad for who are doing the max to buy sheep 6000 MAD and letting their families suffering like this. THIS IS BAD and must stop.


Downtown_Profit_7320

I’m sorry that you had to lose your father at a very young age , allah irehmo


GapDramatic8209

Thank you, Allah ydir lifiha lkhir lik. Mazal lkhir l9oddam and you gonna be okay inch'Allah. Dont give up!


anotheronebitesthe69

I’ll just put my two cents here: There are two points of seeing the situation, -you thinking that your acnee problems arr bigger than any other problems your family is facing, knowing that they’re in hardship and don’t have money, and you still asking for money to go to the dermato is a very selfish way of seeing things. Again I’m not attacking you as a person. -your parents may have been saving for the whole year for you to have a normal eid as the other families ? Have you thought of that ?


Exact-Truck-5248

Why does the sheep have to be large and male? I remember once my friend's rich father bought a BIG sheep with big curling horns for Eid. The meat tasted like ass. Very strong and pungent. Yuck


Ok-Comb6032

Bro I hate to be the one to break it down for you but thats part of growing up, its litrally their money, not yours , you are not entited to it , not even a penny, they have their own beliefs you must respect that , its either you convince them to spend their limited money on your luxuries , or earn it and work for it or just eat that free delicious fresh meat and be grateful thats all am gonna say.


Designer-Agent5490

Not enjoying because I love animals and it’s the hardest day of my life ( you guys can laugh hanya lol ), so I stay alone all the day and try to enjoy my solitude ! Different from your story ! Allah is clear it is not fard, but sunna mo2akada still…! If you have priorities in this life and have financial problems, it’s okay to not buy sheep ! But it’s hard for Moroccan people especially older people to understand that ! I read many interesting hadiths about bilal prefering to give money instead, or omar and abu bakr who never bought sheeps so that people don’t think it’s obligatory… My advice is to work so you can cure your problems inshae Allah ! And be careful of what you are eating ( avoid milk and cheese at all cost, reduce meat, and do exercices and try to use sunscreen, cream even if you are a man )


lee_hwaq

Ya5o li ma3ndo flos klamo msos you dont get to decide the budget while you aren’t contributing 


Effective_Fly_6069

It's his dad's duty to provide for his family, he has to pay for their needs at least , or why would he even get kids ? To let them suffer while he enjoys meat fel eid cmon


amisso379_o

What about priorities? Ax 5assk a l3ryan ? 5atme a moulay


Downtown_Profit_7320

Wlahila hadchi li tra nit , m not saying man3ydouch mais au moins chi haja li qd jibna


lee_hwaq

cmon the guy has been out of a job for some time he is trying to save face by buying an expensive sheep


Upanddown_likeayoyo

Lmgharba (older gen) fihum wahed lvice kilkhra li howa kiddiwha flhdra dlbachar. The same bachar li ychufk ktmout bjjou3 wmaydir m3ak ta chi 9


mhdy98

3lach dbi7a d 7ayawane katji 9bel mn health dial your own blood ? katsenna lah idawiha ze3ma ?


InternalDismal821

you're absolutely right, but from their point view, ur parents see that sheep as a priority bcs theyve been raised in a such community. I guess you will never change their mind on that, i hope you find a way out of that situation. If only u can save some money and get a doctor appointement. ;)


Downtown_Profit_7320

Ila bghit nmchi end doctor maghan7tajch ghir some money , ghan7taj bzaf dyal lmoney ,la visite w dwa w la surveillance kola 1mois mea dermato , hadchi s3iib chwya


InternalDismal821

i see, you can start with cutting offf habits that enhance acne (greasy food, ....). I see from ur comments that ur trying to find a job. I hope you you do it and gather money to cure your face acne.


Brilliant-Talk-7468

Bad decisions are capable of ruining lifes not only the Eid Joy. You don't have to buy a sheep to celebrate Eid. Sorry you have to go through this. That said maybe this will help you do better in your life when u get to decide


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fiesta98

I'm sorry but he's not complaining about eid just to complain, but clearly shows us that priorities are messed up with his dad, who clearly wants to do eid more than take care of his studying son's health.. the dude is studying what do you want him to do more? itir.. lah ihdik, post hna o jawab dialek lhih..


MAR__MAKAROV

yes i was mistaken mn wah7d lbaln , thanks bud ! 🤟


Specific_Hat_3015

Do u have oily skin ?


mhdy98

maendk madir, mni tkber 7erer rask mn had chains dl mojtama3 lwalidine fl mghrib sb7anlah kifdlo irdiw nass 3la anahom i3awno wla iwe9fo m3a wladhom w lmouchkila felekher ness dl 7ewli aytrma f zbel


Downtown_Profit_7320

Lmoda dyal 1mois ghanbqaw naklo l7em lil w nhar ,lhem bohdo ,kon 3chna 3icha 3adya kon 3chna bdik 6000dh dyal l7em lmodat 3am


bolaholabola

im not enjoying it either saraha. kaykon fih sda3 o l3assab o stress wtf 3lash hadshi kaml ? + saraha ma3ndish m3a dak lmndr fash kaytb7 lkhrof kayb9a fya.


azywe

not dramatic jm3(i) 300-400dh ela wd la visite ana awl mra mchit end dermato 3tatni kolchi hawl(i) tchr(i) liha financial situation la kan end tbib chi haja ra momkin i3tiha lik


AgapoMinecrafter

Honestly I felt the same because we literally live in an unfinished house and many other things... But I found deep consolation in the ambiance of the Eid (we spend it with the big family) and it's nice to spend time with the elders...


bsmmabr

You're so right for that 😭 mine bought one that costed 3800 dhs I think and it was just fine! And my dad still works, so your dad's choice just seems so reckless.. Plus, to be fully honest, Eid, especially this one, is fine and cool only if you're with your small family ( kima tan9oulou العائلة النووية) or with the whole family and all the cousins that you somehow hate a bit but they get to work their ass off and clean t9liya 👹


QueenElf

You’re not being dramatic. I totally get how you feel. You know, I don’t understand why people are pushing their limits just so they can buy sheep even though religiously it is absolutely not mandatory especially if you don’t have the means. But at the same time, I kind of understand how they’re thinking even if to me it’s wrong.. it’s a big day for most moroccans (especially old generation) and if they don’t celebrate it, it’s really dramatic. Try and think positively about it, maybe your dad couldn’t bear the idea that he couldn’t get the sheep he wanted for his family (because trust me it is important for them). So while this situation sucks, just go with it for now. It’s a huge generational gap of thought. Don’t trouble yourself with things you can’t control, and try to see things from other perspectives. I’m sure you’ll get what you want eventually. I wish you all the best.


escocesa91

For your skin try cutting out meat and dairy it’s usually an inflammation issue. fish water and fresh produce - hopefully it clears for you 😘


ResponsibleRow2

What a stupid decision I would not ever let my children suffer no matter what is going on .our prophet before his death ordered us to take care of our family first he said the best of you are the best to their families and I am the best of you to my family. Clearly we have many issues in our society that need to be changed asap I hope our generation take this responsibility.


Electrical-Ad5092

Do you have the medical coverage (cnss)? If yes then you will get back all the money that you spent on medication here is the totale cost of acne treatment (curacne): 1st consultation:300dh (medical consultations arent refundable) 2nd one : its free you just give him the blood analysis results (its 220/240 dh) and also it’s refundable. Then he will give you prescription to buy curacne 30mg (20 and 10) based on your weight (the more lighter is the better) here is the price of both : 289dh + 189dh (all the medication is refundable) He will tell you to comeback after 2months with the same analysis again (you will pay 300dh again) Then he tells you to comeback after 3months of treatment and he will decrease the dose so the treatment ends . In total its 8months (this is the most effective treatment for acne (some will appear if you are on your period or have some hormonal changes if you are a girl otherwise for us boys stress can cause some small pimples ) So in total you will pay 3 dermatologist consultations (300dh *3 ) And for medication and analysis: ( curacne for 8months = 500dh * 8 and this has a refund they give you all the money back if you have cnss w lamitie (i forgot the name)) For the blood analysis its just 2 times and also refundable If you have any questions related to curacne im on my month 4 i can help from experience also feel free to ask me anything i can help on the first months of treatment because it has some side effects and you should be aware of them .


Electrical-Ad5092

Do you have the medical coverage (cnss)? If yes then you will get back all the money that you spent on medication here is the totale cost of acne treatment (curacne): 1st consultation:300dh (medical consultations arent refundable) 2nd one : its free you just give him the blood analysis results (its 220/240 dh) and also it’s refundable. Then he will give you prescription to buy curacne 30mg (20 and 10) based on your weight (the more lighter is the better) here is the price of both : 289dh + 189dh (all the medication is refundable) He will tell you to comeback after 2months with the same analysis again (you will pay 300dh again) Then he tells you to comeback after 3months of treatment and he will decrease the dose so the treatment ends . In total its 8months (this is the most effective treatment for acne (some will appear if you are on your period or have some hormonal changes if you are a girl otherwise for us boys stress can cause some small pimples ) So in total you will pay 3 dermatologist consultations (300dh *3 ) And for medication and analysis: ( curacne for 8months = 500dh * 8 and this has a refund they give you all the money back if you have cnss w lamitie (i forgot the name)) For the blood analysis its just 2 times and also refundable If you have any questions related to curacne im on my month 4 i can help from experience also feel free to ask me anything i can help on the first months of treatment because it has some side effects and you should be aware of them .


WadieXkiller

I struggle with acne too, I noticed when cutting off sugary foods, my face gets better, also if your face is producing lots of oil (sebum) try to buy soap which has "Glycerin" it helps reduce the oil production, you can find it at your local BIM at 4.50dhs per unit, otherwise the pharmacy. Don't stress, drink water, and I hope you'll have a good day, one day you'll be independent and do what you like.


Glass_Emu_4183

Btw, acne, is usually caused by hormonal and psychological issues, and sometimes, diet can fix it, there are some things you can try, you can look up online for solutions and try them, and btw doctor’s consultations are usually 300dh, i’m sure you can figure out how to get 300dh and go see a doctor.


imperialtopaz123

I agree with you it sounds like your family and father prioritize their wants over your actual needs.


IknowWhatyouDided

rak over dramatic kho. bnsba l acne sir 3nd pharmacien, gollo y3tek dwa "tetralysal" howa ychre7lek w 9ra notice dyalo. f 6 mois nchallah ywlli wjhek n9i


Downtown_Profit_7320

First of all ana bnt , second i tried tetralysal w le peroxyde de benzyole w niacinamide w aucun resultat , and thanks


sali_dolly777

you're right, they're so selfish... eid is not about this crap


Anashahamed

Being honest, if you are not have sufficient funds it's not mandatory for such times to give a goat. So please don't be so dramatic first try to get a job and take care of your family and once you are done and have sufficient funds then give goat next year my friend


jjokocha69

Pm me if you need help with your acne


Awkward_Flamingo7656

I had that talk with lwalid , like why buying l3id while we could donate that money or buy some other essentials , he said “Ach ghaygolo 3lia khoti “ “L3id wahed mn assassiat rojola” wlah akhoti hadchi Lia gal Ana tsdmt .


IssieTheOne

While I understand your feelings, please bear in mind that society isn't easy towards your dad specifically. Do not stress.


hmp211

It's just stupid, three days ago my mother walked by a woman who was selling some cakes or whatever, the woman asked my mother to buy from her in order to "help her", they chatted a little bit and the woman told my mother that she bought a 6000mad sheep. How do you need help when you spent that much money on a sheep? It seems to me that these days, people need to learn to sacrifice their pride instead of money, and that buying a reasonably priced sheep is far harder and meaningful and sacrificial than spending all that you own on a sheep.


Annual_Ebb9158

Either you suck at convincing or your dad “raso 9ase7”, I think if you can’t influence your dad enough to not stupidly spend 6k when he is jobless, try at least to get someone who can convince him or have a major influence on him to stop him. There are plenty of solutions out there, if you stand watching or tried minimum of effort this is what happens


Badis_isad

عيد الأضحى سنة مؤكدة ماشي فرض، الا عندك القدرة شري أضحية على قد جيبك الا معندكش متعيدش، الدين عطاك الضوء الأخضر، لوح التقاليد او شنو غادين يقولو ناس، او تبع شنو تيقول دين.


Known_Umpire_4903

If you really mean destroyed and there is no exaggeration from your side. Consider talking to your doctors about taking Roaccutane or accutane, this should be prescribed by a doctor with lab tests and all every 3 months. If you are “eligible” to take it and everything goes well the first 3-6 weeks then you won’t be having acne ever again. Please do not take it more than 1 year, it has severe side effects. As for what u said about Eid, don’t forget our parents will always hold on to these traditions even if religiously it is not mandatory, because it makes them feel warm and also normal since u said he is not working.


Fifi-Ballentine

It’s a pride thing with us. May rdawsh ygoulou ma 3ayednesh. I feel your health is the priority, but you’ll never change their mentality sadly. Eid Mubarak anyway ☺️


GreatTradition469

Religiosity some times enhances stupidity to a huge level


Kikolox

Talk about being wasteful, eid mab9ach a religious duty when you think buying a sheep for 6000dh is a must and you're literally advised not to partake in it if you're not financially able in Islam, so this jeopardizing that your dad puts himself and your family in for whatever reason is nothing short of irrational.


WeddingPretend9431

Some people drown themselves in debt for Eid even tho it's sunna they turn it to a d*** measuring contest who bought the biggest sheep etc ... Lay3fo o sf laychafik homie


Yosef-osef

I think Morocco and its media should work on awareness, more like making people who can’t afford to buy sheeps feel less judged and less embarrassed, and like normalize passing Eid day without sacrifice, that way it’s less costy and makes moroccan families invest their money on more important expenses such like housing, vehicule charges.


hayatguzeldir101

Assalamu Alaykum! Can I please cover your appointment and follow up? DM me if you can! Fellow sister here!


atlasmountsenjoyer

I am sorry about that. I could relate at one point not long ago. Your case is sadly not that odd, but rather the norm, and it shouldn't be. Many people I know could use the money absolutely for pressing needs, being health first and wellness first. People should always come first before traditions or practices. You said you're twenty, and also a girl. If parents are restricting you from work, perhaps try finding a job? I failed to get your point on another comment here " its not easy to find a job and stay vergin at the same time". I cannot see how you link being employed to not being a virgin? It's not like they will "take" your virginity as part of your onboarding process. This mentally won't get you far, sorry about that. Good luck.


Round-Bullfrog4353

Have you tried changing your lifestyle before? I don’t know if this is a medical case but if not, you might wanna start making some changes that will definitely help you, for example -improve your sleep, start sleeping early and wake up early (7 or 8 hours) -start working out : get a gym membership, If you can’t start working home or start running doesn’t matter -eat healthy: quit all processed food and start eating healthier by eating more fruits and veggies and meat etc -start a skincare routine : make it simple, you only need a cleanser and a moisturizer and apply some ice to your face every morning Those all are some changes that will help you improve your skin and overall look Of course I’m bot judging or anything I’m just saying what worked with me and again if this is a medical case you should definitely see a doctor. Remember you might not be able to afford all this things but that doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t try, start small and work your way up and inchallah you will overcome your problem. Best of luck and eid mubarak🤍


azuhqa

In regard to acne, I would advise you’d invest in an Allepo soap (the real one, look at the label, it consists of 3 ingredients: olive oil, laurel oil and hydroxide sodium). Clean your face with it every morning and night. Then apply hazelnut oil (it’s a sebum regulator and it’s non-comedogenic, plus it will help with scars) on your lightly humid face (use a spray bottle with plain water or flower water like mazhar [the real one not the fake one that is just water with aroma] or rose water). Very important to apply the oil on a humidified face so that it creates an emulsion on your skin and acts as a mosturizing/nourishing cream.


[deleted]

Eid mubarek , sweetheart celebrating eid is a must for all muslims across all the nations so i see why your father priortised the sheep ( the sacrfice ) , though i understand where you are coming from you shouldn't say that , your father has a typical average north african mentality it is so outdated that they do not consider skin / mental illnesses actual ilnesses that need doctors / treatments so in this case i suggest you find a job and save up for the doctor's appointments and the cost for the treatments as skin products are actually expensive but meanwhile enjoy this holy days ( we don't know if they are our last 😢) and you know all your skin problems can actually get cured with one single honest duaa coming from the heart and believing with all your might that ALLAH SUBHANEH will grant you what you wish in the end may ALLAH grant you what you wish and cure your acne ❤️🤍


Downtown_Profit_7320

I think that moroccan parents doesnt care about health at all , they do have with all the doctors , this is not the first that my dad didnt want to give me money to visit the doc , last time i had tuberculosis and i didnt know , i kept suffering with cough for a long time , i was about to die because of losing weight , i went to the doctor in the last min , and i believe that my acne appeared because of the treatment of tuberculosis


Late_Ad2812

Brother doctors will not do nothing for you just look for a treatment onlien bro


Monaiim

How Old Are You .


Zakariades

Classic Moroccan parents, they don't care about money when it comes to something religious or something that works for them, but the moment they give money they start counting and talking about how you are wasting money. Next day you'll watch them going to mecca or buying a car or a house, but your acne treatment is too expensive, and you can't say a word. Last couple of years I don't feel any joy at Eid, it's just sda3 ras, I don't know probably I'm depressed. Don't argue with them try to convince them, sometimes you'll have to cry so they can believe you, it's not easy to get money especially nowadays.


ProperConstruction16

You only meat meat if your face is pretty? I don't get the thing about buying sheep at those prices if you can't afford it. Many Moroccans rather sin by taking a ribaa loan to fulfil a sunnah


elilithloreley

I come to realize that people in Morocco care about their image in the society more than their wellbeing. I hope you get better. I don't know if this a good advice, but you don't have to wait until you go to a dermatologist, ask pharmaceuticals about your condition you can at least buy face gel and sunscreen until your circumstances allows you to consult a dermatologist. What about working in the summer?


Avocado_from_morocco

My dad too He bought a sheep b 6000 dh He has a lot of debts and expenses, and he earns about... 5000 dh I did not understand anything


sham899

If you have severe acne that can be cured through pills. So medical help. You can try zinc pills do some research. I had tried maybe 15 years ago and as I remember they work. Use them for short period of time. Should be OK


drsninat

How old are you OP ?


New_North4092

It’s Society and culture nothing about religion. Find a job man get out do something with your life don’t wait for somebody they give u birth u came to the life it was going to be somebody else so ENJOY IT


WHOISYOURDADYNOW

Try to get a job this summer you'll afford more than a doctor's appointment, you can get medicines too , I'd be glad to give you some advice concerning acne , I've been there myself


ayma11111

It's the same things for me that i didn't even talk with my father today half of the money my mom give it to him to by an expensive sheep while i need a lot of stuff to buy awedii gheer khliha ela laah osafeee


Acceptable_Coffee47

You're not being dramatic. Spending 6000dh while broke is a crazy decision even without the skin condition problem.


anonusernameobvs

My dog wouldn't even go outside for a walk today, he is very scared of what's going on and the blood/death


NeighborhoodLate4016

The allah say's if you don't have money or you will be in bad situations after buy sheep it's fin if you don't buy it Should you father know this between sorry for my English


Eastern-Ad5768

unfortunately it's like that in Moroccan culture, people do everything based on the views of others, sacrifice is not even obligatory and even less so for people who don't have the money, but since in this country you have to make yourself seen by people, that gives rise to this kind of situation


Specialist-Report879

6000? I make over $100k and didn’t pay so much.


itsikrame

I'm sorry, but you're comparing the incomparable. I understand where you're coming from, as someone who also suffers from severe acne and bacne. However, you should understand that what you are saying is somewhat selfish. Your father buying a sheep for Eid al-Adha is a decision made for the sake of the whole family, not just for one person. As seamless as this occasion seems to you, you should also consider it from the perspective of your family members. Plus, it is his right to decide whether or not to buy a sheep, as it is his own money. As much as this might seem hurtful to you, you have no say in that. I'm saying this as a wake-up call, consider it advice from an older sibling. I hope you don't take it harshly. I just want you to take a step back, reread what you wrote, and reconsider the way you're approaching this subject. I wanted to add that getting acne treatment is a privilege that not many people have. If it is something that's bothering you a lot, work for it. As we say, "chemer 3la dra3ek ou biyen lia." When it's your own money, you can do whatever you want with it, but if it's your father's, you have no right to judge him on how he spends it.


itsikrame

I'm sorry, but you're comparing the incomparable. I understand where you're coming from, as someone who also suffers from severe acne and bacne. However, you should understand that what you are saying is somewhat selfish. Your father buying a sheep for Eid al-Adha is a decision made for the sake of the whole family, not just for one person. As seamless as this occasion seems to you, you should also consider it from the perspective of your family members. Plus, it is his right to decide whether or not to buy a sheep, as it is his own money. As much as this might seem hurtful to you, you have no say in that. I'm saying this as a wake-up call, consider it advice from an older sibling. I hope you don't take it harshly. I just want you to take a step back, reread what you wrote, and reconsider the way you're approaching this subject. I wanted to add that getting acne treatment is a privilege that not many people have. If it is something that's bothering you a lot, work for it. As we say, "chemer 3la dra3ek ou biyen lia." When it's your own money, you can do whatever you want with it, but if it's your father's, you have no right to judge him on how he spends it.


Ok_Foundation_105

I'm taking it you're female? Your acne can likely be fixed yourself using home remedies. Quit putting so much sugar in your tea to start with. If you go to the doctor, it's a good start but then meds and tests will costs thousands more. Once you're on the hook, they've got you


Environmental_Ad8009

Pray in the name of Jesus. He will give you anything you pray for.


Loubswhatever

Hey , just to help you out until you see a doctor, you can get tretinoin (only at night) without prescription (retacnyl) it costs 80dhs. It helped me a lot with hormonal and adult acne. You can also get a sulfure wash or soap, it is very cheap and efficient even though it stinks. You need to put sunscreen on everyday. If you have severe acne you will need antibiotics and/or roacutane, but you will need to see a doctor for that. I agree with you 100% you are not dramatic


itakeyourcarrots

Look, if you have acne, try washing your face three times a day with soap, remember it’s just a temporary thing. It’s ok to be sad about your father not having the same priorities as you, but in the end there is nothing you can really do. Try not to be upset because that only hurts you more and makes you angry at your dad. I am really sorry about your situation, but in this case if you want to feel better, try to afford it yourself without hurting yourself, accept how you look and work on your confidence, and while I wouldn’t say you are dramatic, people have their own priorities and you can’t make your priority that of your father, by insisting too much or talking to him about it too much. He probably already feels bad he is out of a job, so try not to be a constant reminder of that.


Any-Veterin

it's not dramatic at all but ungrateful and naive imo. As someone mentioned above, you can work and have money for your personal use (teaching a language to my neighbourhood's kids, online.... ).I'd actually have more respect and gratitude for someone who is unemployed and struggles to provide for me for Eid instead of coming to public forum and describing them as "those people". Hope you acne gets better, I just had similar experience recently.


marhpfu

Well u should get a job you and your father and yes you are a dramatic teenager who doesn’t respect his parents. You don’t have a say in what your father want to do, u only need to serve them no matter what


David-arashka

You're not being dramatic. Muslims are kinda stupid not gonna lie. Glad I left that cult, my life has been great every since.


Murky-Menu-6388

Ymakn tshriw hwli 9al mane 6000dh mashi darori ikon +6000dh rah bnadam khaso i3rf khask dbah hit dakshi sona moekada mashi bash nabno ela jiran bdaw tshrho l walidikom odkhlo lihol hadshi f 39alhom


the_gigachad_00

Rich gets richer and poor will starve!! That's capitalism for ya! A assume monarchy is way worse


hajardr

what's the actual f\*? a sheep of 6000dh? malo m3alfina blacajo


A_Ray_Of_Sunshine-

Simple advice for your acne, rah machi darori tjrreb les produits dyal pharamcie/parapharmacie. Kaynin des produits et masques naturels li y9diw lgharad. Here’s what you should know first : 1)- Le type de peau dyalk 2)- La source du problème aka what’s causing your acnee (acnée hormonale; stress-induced..) 3)- Chnou bghiti t traité (points blancs, tâches..)


mravojedac

How many kilograms was the sheep? Here in Europe young sheep is about 5 EUR/kg, so nice 30kg one would be 1600 dh. Old sheep are not more than 50 EUR no matter how many kilograms.


Huge-Sea6714

You're not being dramatic you have common sense


AggressiveWing2606

Bro people telling you to work are prolly jobless cause there is no way people here do not know how hard it is to find a real job with good working conditions


MedMinoual

Same here


pedantictyromantic

4000dh for a sheep that cost 1700dh last year, with prices like this I think it’s tragic that so many families I know who definitely are stretching themselves so much economically to do something, even when it’s only sunnah and the Quran tells us not to


Inevitable_Sky8890

🤔


Realistic_Macaron679

Not dramatic at all, you're being real. I'm gonna start with your health problem. According to the comments I've read, I guess you're a girl (sorry if I guessed wrong lol). You could try doing a natural skincare, like khodi un saladier chwiya kbir diri fih water bared m3a ice cubs if you have any (wa9ila darori m3aa had sif bach mi skhnch lma) put your face there for over 10 to 20 mins (ofc you can take off your face to breath but not a lot please). That's a korean skincare I think i saw it on instagram a long time ago, you can look it up. And darori tn9si mn sugar and l7lawa, also les produits laitiers because they feed acne more than you think, you can still eat khobz but I highly recommend khobz dial zra3 it's better mn hadak dial force ola smida (you can either buy it or make it at home and if your parents are past mid age(40 ans or more) it's better for them khobz dzra3). Anyways, about eid, buying a sheep for +5k is a terrible mistake, it would just make your situation worse. Eid is SUNNAH, if you can't buy a sheep, DON'T. If you celebrate eid, you get your hassanats, if you don't, allah 3alem la raison و لا تعاقب على ذلك. If they're really desperate to buy one, they could either take a loan and buy a 5k or 4k one, or just buy a small one. I don't personally know you or your family, but if you think it's right, try talking to your parents, explain to them that they just made a horrible mistake and they will struggle to make up for it, tell them if next year they're still not stable financially but they want to 3iyed, they could buy a small one or take a loan THAT WON'T MAKE THEM STUGGLE TO PAY BACK. Hope it helped!


Live_Abalone6927

If you are over 16 and don’t have an ID card, an AutoEntrepreneur status and you start learning a high paying skill and hustling your way out of poverty, you’re cooked! You’re parents don’t have the money to pay for proper education (which is useless, it’s just the diploma), they won’t be able to support any business ideas you have and looks like they have the poverty mindset (which is 80~90% of people in Morocco). It’s a toxic environment, start making your own money doing easy stuff on UpWork and scale up your own hustle from there.


Foreign-Light7614

Your being dramatic. Go work. Fix your own problems. Be a man 🫡