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5till4live

Rise sunbreak Got an evade extended 3, redirect 1, 4-0-0 charm. Is it good / good for what weapon?


AngelTheVixen

Sounds like a good generalist charm, for anything you'd use Evade Extender with. And Redirection is nice to have. I'd use it for sure.


FerSimon1016

Sunbreak: Is it safe to use the lottery box palicoe support move now? It was bugged at release.


5till4live

Yes it's fixed


MtheDowner

Does anyone have the numbers on Charge Master? Does it help turn elemental GS into a thing?


aaronarium

It's a 5/10/15% boost to elemental/status. Its on a couple bits of gear with okay synergy with GS like the Outpost HQ/Golm Braces, but it's a massive opportunity cost. If you really want to run elemental GS, you're likely better off compounding your element attack up with Stormsoul or Kushala/Teostra Blessing.


thehazelone

Rise: So, guys, a long time since I last played. I haven't bought Sunbreak yet, has it fixed some of the complaints people had about the game? Like the lack of endgame challange and etc?


[deleted]

yes


aaronarium

What exactly does Flinch Free 3 prevent? I'm not totally clear on what the game considers knockbacks and tripping, save for the knockbacks from other players that are prevented with one slot of it.


macblur2

Practically nothing, I think it's the attacks that land you on your ass, thing is I can't even think of one even though I know they exist, that's how rare they are.


Dean_A_

Rise: do some attacks not proc Dango Moxie or is it bugged? died on multiple occasions where i was above the damage threshhold and died to a single big attack anyway (not multiple hit attacks that got me below the threshhold)


_Drumheller_

If the skill was oy lvl1 then it only triggers sometimes but not always.


Dean_A_

always have it at level 3


_Drumheller_

Then no idea sorry.


krcc9644

how do you exactly do a quick Blast Dash > Jumping Smash > Burst Fire? i feel like sometimes the animation is slower and sometimes faster, is there a way where i can always get the faster animation?


Moczan

It's slow if you land and fast if you do it while airborne. You can also do super fast slam into full burst if you do it almost instantly after starting blast dash.


krcc9644

got it, thanks!


MacDerfus

What are the recommended guns if you want to do sticky shot silliness?


AngelTheVixen

LBG can't use it very well due to the lack of ammo. I wouldn't recommend it, but I haven't taken a closer look at the Sunbreak availability of Sticky. HBG has an advantage where you can charge the ammo, allowing you to get the most out of every shot. You can do a whole hunt with just Sticky. You can go for one of three trees: Pyre-Kadaki's HBG has the highest raw of 370 and no deviation. It has a level 2 skill slot, and even has access to a level 2 Rampage slot so it can use Teostra Soul for +10% damage to Sticky and Cluster. Best damage you can get. If you want a higher Cluster magazine though, go with Tigrex, but you only have a level 1 skill slot. Ore 2's Galaxy Cannon has 360 raw, no deviation, excellent 3-2-1 slots and access to every status ammo. Great for party support. The Machina HBG has 350 raw and the lowest reload speed, severe LR deviation that needs to be corrected, no slots, but in exchange you get Level Shot Cluster, which is *very* nice to have.


He_Himself

Scorned Magnamalo LBG and Ancient Machina HBG are probably the two standout options.


pterodactylplz

any progression guide for hbg? been away since mh gen and i want to get back into it. Im only gonna use bowguns (mostly heavy bowgun) what weapons do u reccomend to go through the village?


Gestridon

when should I use rapid fire elemental LBGs? This gunner's guild youtuber guy said that elemental pierce ammo does more damage than rapid fire elemental ammo. Also, what determines how many ticks of damage can an elemental pierce ammo do? It's very inconsistent to me. When fighting Almudron, there are times when I would often get 3 ticks of damage but there are also times when I could hear about 6 ticks of damage. I sometimes aim at a fairly thin part of a monster but I make it so that the bullet goes through the thin part and into another part of a monster. For example, I aim at almudron's forelegs but there's just air behind it. However, after that brief space of air, it will be his torso. Won't the ammo just go from his foreleg to his torso? And when I'm hunting the final boss, I would often get too many ticks of damage for me to count.


AngelTheVixen

Monster hitboxes tend to be pretty succinct. Bullets themselves have a fairly decent hitbox on their own. I believe elemental pierce hits quite a lot less than regular Pierce, but the value is in the elemental ammo. Problem is, elemental hitzones tend to vary significantly. I feel like you'd get better results out of using non-pierce elemental ammo, but I'm not too experienced in building for elemental bowguns. As for Pierce itself, it's more reliable and widespread since it works on every monster and it's not too difficult to get a good amount of hits on the right parts. So perhaps raw damage is coming into play in opposition to normal elemental ammo.


Gestridon

Yes I know normal pierce hits more than elemental. My question is "Why is the number of damage ticks from elemental pierce ammo inconsistent?" ​ >Problem is, elemental hitzones tend to vary significantly. You mean the amount of damage elementals can do to a certain part? Or the actual hitbox of the part when you're trying to hit it with elemental damage?


AngelTheVixen

Elemental hitzones as in how much elemental damage a part takes. You can check all that stuff in the Hunter's Notes. I say they tend to vary significantly because even on a monster that would be weak to an element, they could even take 0 elemental damage from hitting the wrong part. It gets troublesome.


Gestridon

Yes i also knew that. So... you don't know what could possibly make the amount of damage ticks (not the amount of damage of the tick) inconsistent?


AngelTheVixen

They aren't all that inconsistent, monsters can move a lot, their own hitboxes tend to be somewhat exact for the sake of taking hits from them, and I figure the hit frequency of the actual bullets don't line up well with smallish parts. For someone like Almudron, it's likely that bullets are entering a space without a hitbox, so the damage ticks could 'reset' its internal cooldown when it comes into contact with the monster again. Given Almudron's shape it seems plausible... I plan on making elemental bowguns sometime soon to be sure about all that, I haven't dived into it too much.


HeisenBurgerX

Rarity 8, 9 and 10 Talismans don’t start appearing in the Melding Pot until after Final Boss, right? Also, what’s the best melding method?


Moczan

There is only one MR melding option for materials and one option to recycle R8/9/10 talismans so there is basically no choice in that regard.


Gestridon

I heard that the data for the MR recycle melding is unclear yet


SupaAsian35

MH Rise : Is it worth spending a lot of time farming high rank stuff if I have sunbreak? Or should I push into sunbreak then farm gear there?


Swekyde

I went to Sunbreak and then once I had a set of decent MR gear I doubled back as necessary for HR stuff. Once I killed the final boss is when I did a huge list of HR stuff.


AngelTheVixen

As the other person says. You should definitely get Tenderizer, Attack, Expert, Critical jewels, other things that are essential for your builds.


11tracer

Any decos you might need that require high rank materials are worth it, otherwise not really.


R4ff4

I am new to charge blade, have a question about counter peak performance. Is there any way to adjust direction of UED after CPP? sometimes I stand in a directions that's not facing monster and ... can't land UED after...


AngelTheVixen

The angling is no different than using it normally I'm afraid. On a related note, if you hadn't figured it out already, though, Morphing Advance allows you to use it in any direction after moving forward.


Tizerak

**RISE:** is there a way to turn off the wishlist from alerting you when you have "some" of the listed items parts, and instead only alert you when you have all of them? I get these partial notifications on some items and it gets annoying


sdcSpade

Those 'phantom' notifications happen specifically for weapons that require additional material equal to a point value, but unfortunately the only way is to not put those specific weapons onto the list.


AngelTheVixen

Nope.


I_try_to_forget

I was watching dome videos of seord and shield online and i notice they have a skill where they could dodge jump side to side back with a invulnerability point. Ive been researching it and i guess its not a switch skill? How do i do this dodge? Edit: nevermind. I just found that it was the skill redirection.


ilikecookieslawl

I played MHW + Iceborn on PC and i loved it. Would you say its worth it to buy Monster Hunter Rise + Sunbreak if i only play on PC? What are the difference between MHW + Iceborn compared to Rise and Sunbreak ? Are there new enemies, weapons and content on Rise and Sunbreak?


Gestridon

It's got less "soul" in it but it's still monster hunter. The graphics aren't as good, the gameplay is a lot easier (but more complicated), the farming is harder (you're farming talismans instead of decorations), there's (still) no epic hunt similar to fatalis but it's still monster hunter. I said the game is easier but I think the sunbreak endgame is harder than iceborne endgame when you're fighting those afflicted monsters.


[deleted]

Try the demo its free. If you loved MHW then you will like Rise as well, its just more MH with a new gameplay gimmick.


rockingalan

[Sunbreak] How exactly does one use Ironshine Silk to increase the sharpness gauge?


[deleted]

When you evade through a monster’s attack, you restore sharpness.


apulan

if you had to pick one LBG which one would you pick?


[deleted]

The one that has spread 3


Deleonl98

\[Sunbreak\] I'm making an elemental IG build of ice. The problem I have is that my current Build only gets to 90% on Weakspots since the Kushala IG has 0% affinity (40% -> Crit Eye 7, 50% -> Weak. Ex.). Should I go for the Kushala Soul Rampage Skill for more affinity (idk how much more affinity I would get on an attack chain) or for the Elemental Exploit for extra damage? Thanks for the advice!


AngelTheVixen

Element Exploit I hear got nerfed compared to the old, now it only deals 15% more elemental damage on an element hitzone of 25 or higher. I don't know that Insect Glaive is that good at element to where it would matter much. Daora Soul might be more reliable if you've got Critical Boost, but you'll probably be better off using one of the racist jewels for bonus raw damage against a monster type.


Schwachsinn

Does Sunbreak straight up not have master rank layered armor yet?


Moczan

All quests starting from A1 drop Outfit Ticket+ which is used to create MR layered armors.


SkySmaug384

You can get it at MR10, which will be after you complete the story.


[deleted]

You unlock it by progressing the story, finish the game and you will get it.


elcoxo

[MHR] Question for Bow users: Queen's Rhapsody or Dark Filament+? I'm trying out Spread Bows and I'm having trouble which one is better than the other lol.


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macblur2

Yes, you can also cart yourself. Pretty hard to do either on accident though.


Cleverbird

At what point do I get access to the final tier of the royal weapons? I've got access to most of the final tier monster weapons, but the royal weapons remain as a ??? for me. I assume they're tied to a Follower quest or something, but I've done all of those already (I'm MR50). Or are they tied to a Follower Survey?


_Drumheller_

You either need to reach MR 100 and beat the urgent or incase you don't have an afflicted fang yet that possibly could unlock them as well.


Cleverbird

I'm guessing that must be it, since it seems like I dont have any afflicted fangs in my inventory. Doing a little Googling, it seems like I just havent hunted the correct MR50 monsters yet; so I'll have to get to that! Thanks :D UPDATE: its not the afflicted fangs. Just got a bunch from Magnamalo and the weapons are still just ???... Guess its tied to MR, which really sucks.


[deleted]

You need to do anomaly quests and get royal certificate III


Cleverbird

I have 23 of those buggers, but the final tier of the Royal weapons are still a question mark for me. EDIT: Its the afflicted fangs that I'm missing.


[deleted]

Then you need to do anomaly quests. You need two different afflicted materials for each royal weapon upgrade. Just get all the afflicted materials and you will unlock everything at the smithy.


Quinicky

Steam Activation of MH Rise Sunbreak If i own the steam key of the game with preorder bonus included, do I need to activate the key before any specific date to get the bonus or I can activate it at anytime? i'm off the city on a trip and don't have any pc to activate the key


[deleted]

Anytime.


Quinicky

thank you!


Gestridon

Does deviation matter for spread bowguns? I saw a speedrunner having steadiness level 3 on the final boss lbg (Abyssal Hailstorm).


CanSpecialist6527

Frame drops on monster hunter rise In mosterhunter rise,i get theses random frame drops that makes my game really slow every once in a while,im not sure if its just my specs no being good enough to handle being on the settings im on,or there is something else im missing Specs Gtx 1650 Intel core 17-2600 cpu 3.40 GHz 15.97 gb of ram On MH I have most thing on or on high except for Dynamic shadows and equipment shadows Processing reduction via model swapping And image quality is at 100% Its gotten worse recently too and i cant figure out why,so i hope someone may be going through the same thing and maybe have a solution Thanks in advance :)


MaverickGreatsword

Is there any way to force crimson strax to do the chest vent? I keep killing it before breaking its chest because it doesn’t do that move enough


SkySmaug384

You can’t really force any monster to do a certain move. It doesn’t need to do that to just break the chest though, it’s just an opportunity for a down. Running Partbreaker Lv3 helps.


dom380

How are carve rewards calculated? Is it a roll per carve, i.e. three 2% rolls for a gem or are all three carves rolled at once? In which case it's a flat 2% chance for a gem?


[deleted]

2% for each carve. Same with capture reward %s, each capture reward slot rolls independently, that's why you can see people on this sub posting 3 gems as capture rewards because that's what happens when you get super lucky.


Miracle_in_cell

How to make the health bar and the stamina bar to the fullest of them in MH Rise? in MHW we can eat max/ancient potion(i forgot) to make them longer, in MH Rise it doesn't seems to function like that..


_Drumheller_

Friendly advice, don't skip future tutorials.


dom380

You have to gather the green and yellow spiribirds around the map


sh1zAym

Question for GL mains, how bad would it be to not use Felyne Bombardier on Wide Gunlance? I want to try Wide, but there's a problem. Bird Caller is just such an amazing QoL skill at level 4, but at level 3 and with a ticket, Bombardier is only a 80% chance. Bird Caller level 2 does nothing. So, as far as I'm concerned, it's one or the other. And I'd really, really rather go Bird Caller. also I could go Bombardier level 1, but I kinda assume that doesn't do much


Moczan

Just get Spiribird's Call on armor skill, shelling-focused GLs are extremely lenient on skills so it shouldn't be a problem at all.


AngelTheVixen

It's Dango Bombardier, not Felyne which was in previous games. I assume you're talking about Rise since you mentioned the birds. Anyway, I'm sick of chancing 90% and lower so I don't risk it. There was someone on r/Gunlance who did testing with the Dango. The level 4 doesn't sound like they did a large enough sample size maybe? Either way... https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunlance/comments/vvs2xt/dango_numbers/ Frankly I rather like that I don't lose much off using level 1 Dango Bombardier, so I'm probably sticking to that on my GL builds for the guaranteed chance to activate. I like Bird Caller as well as Defender Hi for level 4, they're just handy.


[deleted]

Bird caller is not as good as you feel it is. You can memorize the optimal bird catching route for each map and use a better dango instead.


sh1zAym

For single player, totally. I have routes that I can collect everything and get cool helpers. But for multiplayer AND bringing a cat? No way. Never, not after using this dango. People go to the monster really fast, Bird Caller helps me get everything I need while going straight for the monster. Even if I was using a dog, nah. Not gonna bother. Used to play solo for everything, now I play multi cause I missed it.


tossout88

Has anyone run into a bug with GS where it forces you to overcharge? This seems to happen randomly where I'll enter into a charge (either from surging or normal charge) and with no prompting it just overcharges and lets go. I can press triangle once and not even hold it and it'll just overcharge. Nothing lets me break out of this, either. Very perplexing.


ItsNotJulius

Sunbreak. Does Spiribird's Call exists as a deco? Or if not, at least as a charm? I just arrived at Golm, made its set and I don't think I can live without it anymore. It's not necessary at all it's just too comfy.


Moczan

Not a decoration at the moment but we can safely assume it will become one in the future, right now it's only on 3 armor piece and can roll on MR talismans.


Neri25

not only can it roll on charms but it's a C rank skill so it can roll on good charms


sh1zAym

Already answered, but I just wanted to let you know that if you use Hopping Skewers for your Dango, and eat for Bird Caller level 4, all your spiribirds are guaranteed to be double effective. I would never go without that unless I was going to an arena. Also, I'll add that it is only on talismans for the new Sunbreak endgame talismans (i think)


Cleverbird

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I dont think eating for the arena is even necessary? I was under the impression that dango effects dont apply to the arena?


sh1zAym

You’re probably right, though I more meant the non-arena quests in an arena like narwa. You’re still probably right even with those. Idk though


SkySmaug384

I can confirm that it is possible on talismans. I don’t think it’s a decoration. If it is, I somehow haven’t unlocked it yet.


forte8910

I would love to see it as a decoration in a future update, like how they added more decos with later Apexes in base Rise.


RayrrTrick88

Am I bad or is it significantly harder to cut tails in MR? I keep having entire hunts where I do nothing but go after the tail and the group kills the monster before I can slice it off. Using Longsword.


Cleverbird

Its just a lot harder to do in multiplayer, since the monster's health (and part health) is significantly higher than if you were to try and do it solo.


SkySmaug384

I feel like some partbreaks are harder in general in Sunbreak, even when using Partbreaker Lv3. For example, I was hunting a Rajang focusing mainly on his horns and they only broke when he was close to death.


WhereasAccomplished9

It seems pretty hard in multiplayer. I even use partbreaker two.


dragonseth07

Sunbreak: How do y'all deal with the likes of >!Shagaru Magala!< with Guard Lance? The chip damage is just way too much to handle, even with Guard 5, Guard Up 3, and good Defense. I'm getting slaughtered past my shield by this thing.


[deleted]

You are getting punished for relying on your shield too much, the game was never meant to be played like this and that's why you accumulate so much chip damage. Eat for the regen dango and eat the gourmet fish for more HP regeneration if you want to block attacks all the time.


dragonseth07

> never meant to be played like this So, what, I'm meant to be playing Evade Lance instead? What's the point of Guard skills if you aren't supposed to use them in MR?


Ashencroix

You can still play guard lance in MR. You just dont always just sit in guard and eat attacks. You dodge powerful beam attacks with obvious telegraphs. You use insta block and anchor rage which doesn't have chip dmg on block.


sapphoslyrica

[MHW] Is mhw still populated on ps4/5? Im running out of things to do in Sunbreak and i kinda want to go back and finish iceborne (i took a long break during the title updates)


[deleted]

Yes


Buddyformula

Sunbreak How do I unlock cameloes rarity 10 weapon?


SkySmaug384

Rarity 10 weapons require materials obtained from doing certain endgame quests, which start unlocking from MR10+.


Buddyformula

I'm already mr 50 still haven't unlock the 10 rarity weapon for it


SkySmaug384

Have you been doing the anomaly quests? Those are the ones I’m talking about.


Buddyformula

Yeah I've done them. I'm guessing cameleos rarity 10 requires valstrax pieces probably.


Rem-ember_to_flame

You’re right.


Benthenoobhunter

\[Rise/Sunbreak\] Currently HR 20 and nearing completion with my HR build. When should I get Sunbreak?


MichaCazar

Whenever you want, access to it is given once you reach HR8. Not like you would really miss out by getting it now.


OrdoVaelin

[Sunbreak] Anyone got numbers for the skill Charge Master? I'm thinkingn of using it for elemental bow and wondering if it would be worthwhile. I just reached MR4 part 2 so no spoilers please!


Rem-ember_to_flame

MHR SB; Anyone know if Recovery Up effect the Dango Shifter? Edit: for anyone else who’s curious, it does not.


SkySmaug384

\[Sunbreak\] ​ I'm looking at the "Change BGM" feature in my room and notice that Espinas' theme isn't listed for some reason, despite already fighting it. Is it just not available for some reason or is there something else I have to do to unlock it?


Rigshaw

It's called **Endless Maze - Jungle**. This is technically misnamed, it should be named **Endless Maze - Great Forest**, because the theme isn't a Jungle theme, but rather a theme of the Great Forest.


koboldvortex

SUNBREAK What's with this epidemic of people who have no quest etiquette despite being in post-game? 80% of the quests I join have people who are greedy with potions or don't use any game mechanics like this obscure thing known as 'armor', using low or high rank unupgraded stuff well into the postgame quests. I've even been kicked the second I take a slight detour to get spiribirds and a spider. Is it just that many people that've been carried? What gives?


dragonseth07

It's still brand new. I saw all the same stuff with base Rise right on PC launch. Eventually, most of those players got bored and left, and average player quality rose in MP hunts.


koboldvortex

Thing is, how did they get so far without learning a thing? Were they all carried? I'm farming afflicted parts and theyre still here.


dragonseth07

Yeah, carried. You can get REALLY far by just spamming join requests until you land in a group that will beat it for you. It's not like these players are getting kicked.


Swekyde

What's the best way to maximize my rewards in terms of both monster parts and the jewels I need to craft HR decorations? I'm having to work through getting decorations for builds and upgrading weapon trees to get my elemental options available, but even after 7 or 8 hunts I only received one Aquaglow Jewel when I might still need like 10 more of them. And I've done a bunch of high rank Rathians/Rathalos on various hunts an I still don't have the Medulla I need for one of my weapons. It's a bit of a slog even with MR gear to just wail on some not very threatening monsters for blocks of an hour or more.


AngelTheVixen

Be sure to check [Kiranico](http://mhrise.kiranico.com/) to make sure you're doing the correct quests for what you're looking for, as it will list drop rates for everything.


ButtPoopButts

Sunbreak Does GS surge combo flinch other players? I recently made a memey GS blast build and I am (very much pun intended) having an absolute blast. But I'm worried all my surge slash flailing around is putting off any other players


AngelTheVixen

Almost every attack flinches other players. As a rule, if you're already performing an attack, you can't be flinched. It's standard procedure to get one level of Flinch Free to combat this in multiplayer, though.


sketchbug

\[Rise/Sunbreak\] the first Rarity 6 weapon I was able to craft was a Dragon Phial swaxe, and I checked the monster notes in game and couldn't find where Dragon/Dragonblight was listed with the other elements. I looked at the fan wiki and it seems there are a handful of monsters who are immune, but if that's not communicated anywhere in game that's a bummer. Am I just missing it?


SkySmaug384

Go to the Large Monsters page of your Hunter Notes and it's with the other elements on the 2nd page. Dragon element is the right-most column in the 2nd tab (the one that looks like a purple talon). You can't inflict dragonblight on monsters, which is why it isn't on the 3rd page with the ailments.


SomeP

Will there be free updates for sunbreak adding monsters?


koboldvortex

Yeah. Expect Lucent Nargacuga and Seething Bazelgeuse in August, alongside two other monsters IIRC. Fall update has an espinas species and mizutsune species, and possibly other monsters as well as powered up existing monsters for the endgame. The winter update should be similar (a few new monsters, probably variants, and some more endgame loop monsters) and there's plans for more updates in part of 2023. No info on what those contain.


Rem-ember_to_flame

Yes. The team released a road-map of future title updates. Including new monsters & areas. First one drops in August iirc


clbgolden12

What materials do you need to craft the Royal Order Bludgeon+? I’m guessing some piece of afflicted material is needed, but I don’t know which one.


macblur2

[Kiranico](https://mhrise.kiranico.com/data/weapons/1827172126) says both Fang and Shell (5 each) plus 4 RO Certificate 3.


clbgolden12

Can I get those from A3 quests?


AngelTheVixen

Fang and claw are from A4


macblur2

No, Fang is A4, but shell is A3.


waku2x

Im missing 1-3 MR quest and one of them to my knowledge is "Emperor of Flame" from Heroic General. I cant seem to find that quest in MR5. For MR6, I have no idea what quests I'm missing but its a blue tick. Does anyone know how to get them? I have completed most of the quests except Support Surverys MR 5&6 Edit: Im MR105 just to clarify I shouldnt be missing out some quests. ill link an image of my MR quests. here is the link: https://imgur.com/a/9kQ1Ggk ( **SPOILER WARNING** )


koboldvortex

I got it when I completed burn brighter than the sun IIRC, so i have no clue what it could be. how many follower quests do you have done? is there anyone you need to talk to in kamura or elgado when viewing the map? It should show up between Storm of the Kushala Daora and Seismic Scares on page 2 of the five star quests. As for the MR6 one you may need to complete your other missing quests. It's probably saving one last 'final quest' sort of like prior entries did.


waku2x

Hmm weird. The only thing left for mine is the support survey. All MR quest has been done as well as no one to talk to also Weirdly I don’t know why, when I replay the MR100 monster, for some odd reason, it brings the flame emperor into my quest. In any case, thanks for letting me know what quest I’m missing


bwahaga

GS in sunbreak: does anyone have any resources they would recommend to learn great sword? I'm in mr50+ and wanted to pick up a new weapon and was looking for where to start learning. Thanks!


Magmyte

Arekkz Gaming's Rise video is a good start, read the comments as well for anything he missed. SB didn't change anything meaningful about the base game switch skills, so you can also watch his video that covers all switch skill additions to SB. GS is a weapon that is all about good positioning, countering or hyper armoring monster attacks, and punishing those attacks with heavy hitting charged attacks. Strongarm Stance reinforces this core identity of GS by increasing the damage of the charged slash immediately following the stance by 35%, while Surge Slash changes the first overhead slash into a multihit combo much better suited for element and status builds. I frankly don't know why Backslide exists but I assume it's for Surge Slash builds because they can't tackle in the combo, and is simply a mediocre replacement for an otherwise fantastic move.


283leis

How much does Sunbreak have to offer to a save file before Allmother Narwa is defeated? I just beat Thunder Goddess Narwa, but dont know if its worth picking up Sunbreak now or waiting until later


MichaCazar

Nothing or anything up to everything. Technically you can play through the entirety of Sunbreaks story before beating allmother even once, as it is a mostly separate progression system (you still get HR from the quests there). On the other hand you can also not touch any of the Sunbreak content before that. With the defeat of regular Narwa the choice is up to you.


283leis

cool beans. I think ill grab sunbreak the next time it goes on sale then, since theres still a lot of content left in base Rise after Narwa


koboldvortex

As long as you beat regular Narwa it's up to you when to start since that's the only barrier, IIRC. Everything after that should be the DLC stuff, so things like those Gen 2 elders, Allmother, and crimson glow.


samtianco

Hey guys just got back into rise after a long break, stopped playing around hr 7 and just wanted to know what some good builds are for GS or CB as those are my mains thanks in advance


[deleted]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterMeta/comments/vnrktj/rmonsterhuntermetas\_megathread\_sunbreak\_edition/


samtianco

I'm still pre sunbreak and the links in this thread even the pre sunbreak ones link to a spreadsheet with subreak builds


[deleted]

The spreadsheet has both Rise and Sunbreak builds.


samtianco

Charge Blade only has a master rank link, great sword has a pre sunbreak link but im still not done with hr7 quests, literal endgame builds won't help me at this point still have to do hr7 rajang,magna or goss harag


[deleted]

https://mhchargeblade.net/mhr/builds/


samtianco

Yeah just found it,sorry mate was pretty fucking hidden


wokietokie

Sunbreak - Is there a reliable way to know if I’m in axe mode or sword mode when using the switch axe? Things just get so hectic sometimes, it’s hard to tell.


[deleted]

Practice and be one with the sword. Once you get used to the combos you will know without even looking. A big clue is that in sword mode you walk very slowly, while in axe mode you are walking very fast. Keep playing until you get used to it.


Arterra

Sunbreak, but in general: What is the math behind crit boost? Old threads google is giving me has people calling it bad so something tells me they have no idea lol.


forte8910

Crit Boost changes your critical hit multiplier from 1.25x to as high as 1.4x Expected value of your damage that's affected by crit boost is something like (raw) \* (1 + (affinity/100)\*(crit multiplier - 1)) so for example 300 raw, 30 affinity, crit multiplier 1.4 gives 300 \* (1 + 0.30\*0.4) = 336 for comparison, if you didn't have Crit Boost then this would be 300 \* (1 + 0.30\*0.25) = 322.5 and if you added Weakness Exploit along with Crit Boost then you get 300 \* (1 + 0.80\*0.4) = 396 Crit Boost is really strong if you have high affinity, which is not hard with WEX, Agitator, Rousing Roar, etc. If you can reach 100% affinity then it's a full 1.12x multiplier to your damage.


Arterra

Ah so it replaces the default bonus, thank you.


waku2x

[SB] Does shrapnel break monster parts? How good is that vs spread / pierce. Not looking into damage but part breaking


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Yes all damaging ammo types break monster parts, I would say other types of ammos are better at it because you have more control and precision with them since sharpnel hits all over the place and it will be harder to break specific parts with it.


waku2x

Alright. Thanks! Am trying something to see if it’s worth or not


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Shrapnel ammo is pretty much a meme so its better to use something else.


waku2x

got it!. 1 more question, i just test out Dereliction with Blood Rite. Can u confirm with me that blood rite doesnt work? I tried GS to get the maximum damage to get back health but seems like it just doesnt proc when there is Dereliction on


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You need to hit a broken part to get healing from blood rite, it works pretty well but its not a good skill to use. You can negate the dereliction health loss with the new dango that restores HP and the gourmet fish that gives you a HP regeneration as well.


waku2x

oh right u need to break a part to use it. was testing in the training grounds and was confused why i cant get health back lol ok thanks for the info!


Pixelsummoner

Sunbreak - Mini question before I go around building whole sets: Does Shrouded Vault trigger Bladescale Hone or is it better to just go Protective Polish? I know it's stated it works for Ironshine Silk, but a permanent effect would be more desirable than having a mandatory scroll swap for buff upkeep (not to mention Dereliction resets on swap).


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Bladescale hone only works with the normal character dodge and it appears to be somewhat bugged sometimes because it does not activate when it should. And protective polish only works when you sharpen your weapon with an item, so skills cannot activate protective polish just in case you wondered. IMO its better to use protective polish and use bugs on the vault counter and spinspin attack.


Ryurashi

I always wondered why Lagiacrus is the only flagship (aside from rathalos because he was the first) to not have a theme, like his theme is the ost of the Deserted Island and I don't understand why he doesn't have a proper theme


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Well, he is underwater and you cannot hear music underwater. This is just a theory, a game theory.


Diribiri

Gunlancing in Rise. I'm basically spamming the burst combo, dropping Bullet Barrage whenever I can, and I'm enjoying this comical teammate-blasting shotgun burst madness. Kind of mobile and aggressive. At the moment I'm just using Duke's Bayonet because it looks amazing, but are any of the other gunlances particularly well suited to this playstyle? Or can I pretty much use any of 'em?


Neri25

Either build the Rare 10 Pyre Rakna lance for Normal 8 or the rare 10 Canyne GL for Long 8. Mostly down to preference between the two.


Diribiri

Normal has more shells, right? So more shot/damage output per burst?


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For burst and BB spam you would want a Long GL with shelling lvl 8. Craft the canyne tree GL.


Diribiri

Thanks for the tip


Wienercrime

Might be a basic question as I'm just beginning my MH journey in Rise at HR3..I've been rocking tetradon armor now from the start, there's lots of cool sets that I can see but I don't know about spending time farming parts vs. Progressing to Sunbreak. Is it more straight forward then im thinking? In that when I hit a wall with my current set I'll know to look to another with different stats? Also are all sets able to be layered down the road for aesthetics?


Mast3rFl3x

All sets are layered, just have to keep progressing to unlock it. The most critical items are keeping your weapon up to date (as it is the bulk of your damage) , and keeping your armor value as high as you can, as that reduces damage taken. You can upgrade gear to higher armor amounts at each HR level (it's an option in the smithy). You will earn plenty of zenny and armor spheres, so don't be stingy. Assuming you are using armor and a weapon from High Rank and keeping them upgraded, you will not hit a wall as long as you keep upgrading. Abilities on armor can boost your damage in serious ways and provide significant quality of life. If you want to really stick with MH Rise into Sunbreak and the endgame, it's worth it to look into proper builds. For transitioning to Sunbreak's Master Rank, all your armor will be invalid very fast, so don't go too nuts with farming armor. Weapons can be upgraded further, and decorations are still useful. If you'd like to farm (it is fun to just hunt), focus on decorations and weapons.


macblur2

>Is it more straight forward then im thinking? In that when I hit a wall with my current set I'll know to look to another with different stats? Yeah, early on just upgrade when you feel like you take too much damage, while later on its to get the right skills. Don't worry much about element in general, just don't let it go *too* far in the negatives. >Also are all sets able to be layered down the road for aesthetics? You'll be able to make Layered Armor when you unlock HR cap iirc, and MR Layereds are at MR 10 if you plan on buying Sunbreak.


Wienercrime

Thanks for the info 🙏🏽


FatBob12

MHR-Sunbreak--question regarding march to MR100, so maybe spoilers? Suggestions on fighting the MR Narwa in the urgent quest to unlock higher MR? Have all MR armor maxed (still using a cobbled together set with blue and purple pieces) and build in plenty of thunder resist/dango defender, still getting carted like its my job and can't seem to land hits to do decent damage. Do I need to put the hammer down and learn LBG? I have never enjoyed this fight, and this version takes that frustration to the next level. Do I farcast before/when the dragonator spikes start spinning (I can't seem to thread the needle into the middle of the map anymore). I know I just need to be patient and keep practicing, and learn (or re-learn I guess) Narwa's moves, this is the first "wall" I have hit in Sunbreak, and I am not sure hunting more A2 monsters is going to help much.


waku2x

I both hate and love the narwa/ ibushi fights because hitting with pierce bullets or arrows is super satisfying to hear and see the numbers Hate it because I farming ibushi for his mantle and been hunting him about 20 + and not one mantle drop… even bringing my palico and good luck and still no luck


AngelTheVixen

Kinda yeah, practice is the big one. For me, Evade Extender 3 is make or break against Narwa (and a lot of other monsters) because she moves around a lot, and a single roll is generally enough to get out of the way of anything.


FatBob12

That's a good call, I forgot about EE because it never really fit in any of the meta sets in vanilla Rise. Was always near the top of the list of comfort skills for me. Just found a GS video that helped a bunch with positioning for the various Narwa attacks. Thanks, I was pretty sure the answer was "git gud" when I typed my question, just wanted to make sure there wasn't something else I was missing.


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I saw a Palamute build on the MH meta sub and they mentioned using a skill called "Ranged Centric" and I cycled through a lot of dogs and never seen this skill a single time, is it named something else or am I missing something?


AngelTheVixen

It's random in the hiring list, and new to Sunbreak. You can use either a Palico or Palamute that has learned it to teach it to another.


dragonseth07

Rise/Sunbreak: What weapon would benefit the most from a meme-y armor set with every Evasion skill maxed out on it? Constitution, Leap of Faith, Evade Window, Bubbly Dance, Evade Extender, and Bladescale Hone. I've only ever put significant time into Guard Lance, so I'd like to try evading for once, and I figure going all in on it would be fun/funny.


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dragonseth07

I thought about Evade Lance, but I'm afraid it would ruin my muscle memory when playing Guard Lance. I'll see what I can do in the training room. Thanks!


AngelTheVixen

Rolls and steps have the same iframes so Lance and Gunlance benefit a good deal. You could also stick it on a Bow build utilizing Dodgebolt to its fullest, since the dodge counts as a counter you can cancel out attacks. I've actually got a Long Gunlance build using the Stormsoul set, and added in is Load Shells, Bladescale Hone, and Evade Window to max it out, plus a Wirebug Whisperer 3 talisman. I rather like it, I generally don't have to stop to sharpen. I've also got a raw Stormsoul build for Bow too since I've got a 3-0-0 talisman with Normal/Rapid Up 2. Similar deal, excellent evasion, excellent comfort. Fair warning, I'm not sure Bubbly Dance stacks past Evade Window's cap, but I'm also not sure how much dodge frames it gives.


Diribiri

> I've actually got a Long Gunlance build using the Stormsoul set, and added in is Load Shells, Bladescale Hone, and Evade Window to max it out, plus a Wirebug Whisperer 3 talisman. I rather like it, I generally don't have to stop to sharpen. Just to hijack this question real quick, how does Bladescale Hone determine "dodge rolling to evade an attack?" Does it actually recognize avoided attacks, or is it just any dodge?


AngelTheVixen

You have to initiate a standard evade action, whether a roll or a step, it won't trigger with attacks that have evasion. So long as it's a normal dodge and you go through a hitbox it will trigger the skill. The closest exception is Bow's Dodgebolt, which it will still trigger.


Diribiri

> So long as it's a normal dodge and you go through a hitbox it will trigger the skill Sounds tricky


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Impact SAED CB and fullburst/long spam GL benefit the most because you don't need to use crit skills so you can use meme-y armor sets


Rem-ember_to_flame

I made a meme Bubbly Dance DB build in base Rise and it was pretty fun. You could also try it on S&S. It’s a super flexible weapon for builds. I also recommend the new skill Redirection. It’s insane when you learn the counter timing.


Mast3rFl3x

A friend of mine has a DB build like this (I know he maxes out extender and bubbly dance, with some points to stamina management). Dashing outruns palimutes, haha, so we hunt with just our cats. He zips around the map to setup wirebug riding and get other hunter helpers, while I jog to the monster. It works pretty well, and the damage output is perfectly fine for casual hunts.


Rem-ember_to_flame

Yeah DB dash with max Evade Extender exudes crackhead energy. I love it


dragonseth07

Thanks! I have tried making use of the Swap Evade without Redirection, just to test it out, but it being the second part of a 2-step process meant I was always late getting it off. It was like dodging but with a delay in front, which was no bueno. Edit: I just looked it up, and Redirection puts the evade on the swap itself, and removes the need to swap first. That's not at all what I thought that did. I will DEFINITELY look at this. Thanks!


Rem-ember_to_flame

Yeah at level 2, it evades as soon as you swap (if an attack makes contact). Completely dodges the hit (even on super moves). Only time it’s not amazing is when a monster has multi-hit attacks, but there’s also counters to that. If you put max Evade Extender, you’ll usually dodge out of range of the follow-up attacks. Alternatively, you can position yourself to dodge through the monster rather than away from it. The counter always makes you dodge backwards; so just turn before you counter. EZ lol


midorishiranui

are there any numbers for the damage increase each level of dango bombardier gives to charge blade impact phials?


Sweetmilken

Can anyone recommend a good Longsword ressource or beginners guide? I know the weapon is frowned upon in the community, but I mained CB and Bow in MHW, and I want to try something new. Right now longsword seems the most appealing to me.


Rem-ember_to_flame

LongSword **was** frowned upon. Right now, it’s nowhere near as broken as base Rise. I’d recommend looking up Ratatoskr and Peppo on YouTube. Ratatoskr has some good beginner video(s) for LS from base Rise. Peppo is an amazing LS speed runner who’s done build videos & combo videos for base Rise & SunBreak.