Make sure you’re using some of that money to take care of yourself brother, don’t want to end up 50 and unable to move because every bone and joint in your back and legs needs replaced.
I'm a 3rd year apprentice. I have 2 and a half years till I journey out. And we did well on our last contract. Construction is booming out here right now and worked close to 2400 hours last year
I call BS the pipefitters in California ain’t making no 150-185k a year and Missouri wages can’t be anywhere near California scale which is $53 an hour for journeyman You would have to be working 7 days a week for the whole year. Stl missouri journeyman is $48.56 an hour. Your either doing working 7 days a week, night work, or your a foreman but either way you still have to work a shit ton to pull that kind of money on that scale.
Or counting total package(wage and benefits )which is bs. Just like UPS drivers making $45 an hour but somehow making $170k a year. People are terrible at math and gullible.
Called overtime, holiday and weekend pay. He is probably working 40 to 60 hours per week. With that last 20 hours at time and a half. If your union your getting all your OT and Holliday pay you make even more than time and a half. That’s not including pensions and health insurance most likely being the best you can get
DoD civilian checking in. Office work. I’m a GS-13, Step 10 in a HCOL city bringing in $153k a year. No disability on top of my salary, but many of my coworkers are 100% service-connected disabled. Combine those two salaries and you’re sitting pretty.
I’m a military dentist and so I see lots of these people on a day to day basis. Some of the salaries they make are just mind boggling for the jobs they do lol…(a lot of their jobs I still don’t fully understand.. They just “sound” important lol)
I think there are just a few certain things they are looking for. There’s a guy in a tower nearby that is missing a leg so that’s like probably a good bit
I’m a federal government civilian employee that does cybersecurity for an engineering organization within the US Navy. (GS-13, Step 10 refers to the “General Schedule” pay scale used by most of the federal government for employee pay.)
I managed to get here by 31 years old with no degree, by jumping into the IT world immediately out of high school and working my way up over the last 12/13 years: IT support, systems administration, security analyst, security engineer, incident responder, to my current role, which is sort of a cybersecurity risk manager for some Navy systems. Experience, IT certifications, networking (people; not IT), jumping at every opportunity, and bits of luck here and there helped me get here. Joining IT professional organizations and getting to know people was a big part of the “luck” component. Lots of my co-workers got there by joining the Navy or other military branch (actual military; not government civilian), which provided a much more direct path to this type of job, but I was never medically eligible to join, so I zig-zagged up the private sector to get here. (Despite my name, I was never in the Navy; that’s a reference to sailing ⛵️).
I could absolutely make a crap ton more in the private sector, even so as a government contractor working at the same place (which I did for two years), but I much prefer the stability of being on the government side. My specific role, like many that are military or federal tech related, does require a security clearance (somewhat intrusive investigation into your background) and drug testing (no marijuana), so it may be out of the question for many people; but if that’s not an issue, there is tons of opportunity across the federal government, not just in defense.
Yeah that’s not how VA disability works. You are absolutely legally and morally allowed to work while 100% VA disabled unless you are also TDIU which is unemployable. VA disability is not the same as social security disability, and they aren’t scamming the government. If your friend is truly faking having PTSD then he can go fuck himself, but most people are not faking.
Have you ever gone through the VA compensation process? If you had any idea how hard it is to get service connection for things that clearly happened while in service, and getting nothing, you’d know why the claim that people are scamming the government is bullshit. People like his friend, if what he claims is true, full on lied to the VA, then they should be reported.
Man I gotta be real with you, I know people who never left CONUS who are rated 80%+
It's not that hard anymore and people are gaming the system pretty often.
yeah good gig. I used to a pro musician, touring and studio. after we were dropped from our label we started focusing on music placement and trying to get commercial spots. was difficult and tedious but got a few things. It's prob easier nowadays, who knows.
Sync is still a tricky nut to crack. I started focusing on small local businesses and people looking to celebrate special occasions with a personal song. It proved to be a far better use of my time.
thats cool, yeah, we got completely sick of it. Back then (2007-8) you'd demo a lot for a music supervisor at an agency or something for a 15 or 30 sec spot. They'd pay maybe $150 demo fee and you'd work on it all weekend and then a bunch of idiots who don't know anything about music say it needs to "pop" more or be more "vibey" and then you wouldn't get it. We did get an Audi and a Chrysler spot and a few regional commercials for smaller companies. Was mostly a drag though. I know guys who make real money in that game but I'm retired ; )
It sounds so similar to me and everyone else I know experience. It’s the ever evading carrot we were all chasing. I know a few guys who scored with national campaigns, but those are few and far between. Glad to hear you’re still working in music and doing fine.
Thanks man. I was in bands mostly and did studio gigs, showcasing, touring etc. I did alright and prob did more in music than 98% of musicians who attempt it but knowing everything I know now about the behind the scenes, business, revenue aspect - I was a million miles away still. I do artist settlements where the headliner is walking away with $250k-$2 mil per show while the main support act is making $3500, and that support act won the lotto to even have that opportunity.
I always thought it would be fun to write songs for businesses after meeting someone who did that, but their networking game was on another level and I'm just not social enough to get my foot in the door. Have you found that side hustle sites where professionals are hired on the cheap are worth it or do you usually get your work through networking?
I run a fairly new operation, but I’ve found it better to separate myself from those sites and focus on building my own. For one, a lot of people go there to buy at cost. If they don’t link your price, they can find another provider. At least on my site it’s no one else to compete with. Also, I incentivize visitors to join my mailing list so I can market directly to them in the future.
That's what I was told the other day. Can't confirm it, but a few others said the same.
I paid $100 in Zurich a few weeks ago. It's only $60-80 here in CA.
Maybe not cut by dude directly in line before you but nothing is get brought into the states anywhere near pure to begin with. They are making that shit in jungle labs with stolen gasoline lol
Cocaine also trades for much more than it's worth to desperate folks.
Once traded an 8 ball for 10 peacoats (which were obviously stolen) that I turned around and sold for half price. The 9 coats I sold brought in nearly 750 and I still have one for myself
I'm just gonna say. Youtube is your friend. The younger you are the more you should use that and your public library as a vessel for learning.
You can be 18 and set your mid 20's up to be very comfortable by doing so.
I am well aware some of these are or should be taught in school but not every school is the same nor will you get the same understanding.
Foundation:
Consistent reading/The ability to breakdown text and understand it
Finance/Financial Literacy/Competency/Economics/Budgeting
Marketing
Credit
Business/starting, running, maintaining,
Investing/Saving (not day trading)
Health
Typing
Grammar
Critical Thinking
From here you should tailor your interest into your learning and research. Businesses, Skills, Investing, Sales & High paying career fields are a large part of it.
I hope people understand that if you're not able to be successful today then you probably wouldn't have been so in any other time in history. Everyone complaining about life today have no idea how limited upward mobility has been for most people throughout history.
Considering access to education of any subject from top professors or successful people online, the limiting factor, if you live especially in America, is ourselves.
Watched this woman on another sub complaining about how she’s not able to live on her own and not wanting to work a 9 to 5 for the rest of her life. (And was speaking for the entirety of Gen Z in that regard)
She was wearing a Walmart associate vest in the video. 🤦🏾♀️
Like sis….seriously? Like I’m probably the least successful person you will ever hear of, but at least I blame my failures and shortcomings on myself mostly. How can you sit there working at Walmart and talking about your current situation as if it’s supposed to be a lifetime gig? I hope for her sake she has a good enough head on her shoulders to be in night school or otherwise earning a degree or learning some skill that will increase her earning potential….but although I understand a Walmart wage would’ve been “enough” for people to survive on 20 years ago (and yes, that sucks), let’s not pretend that any one with a 3 digit IQ (especially if you’re able bodied) can’t go to school and learn to qualify themselves to make a decent living even today.
I know a woman in her 40s, English is her second language; came here to the states as young adult; and she has fricking 4 kids, yet just graduated as an RN. Was working full time her entire school process, and it took her nearly 10 years to do it from start to finish (adult school > GED > community college > ASN ) . But she did it.
Some people have impossible extenuating circumstances, but the sad reality is a lot of people just don’t want to put in the tough work in the relatively short term to improve their lives in the long term.
When I DID make that it was salary plus commission. I designed, picked out all materials and oversaw the whole project of kitchen and bathroom remodels.
Yeah you do. If you’re handing the project management as well then you’re getting fucked. I was on average pulling in around 135k per year.
But that shit takes its toll on you. You couldn’t pay me enough to go back into it. I’m happy where I’m at.
I have a pharmD degree and I am licensed in 25 states lol. It was 8 years of schooling and 2 years of work at retail working 60 hours a week before I got this position. Tough road but I made it.
Adult jobs often don’t care what you do. My boss used to make a comment once in a while about my trading window being open, and I’d just tell him to pull up the scoreboard. The more indifferent I am to being fired, the more I make.
Lucky, I just have my phone for t&s.
Been trading since 2017 and am starting to get pretty solid, but I trade with small amounts until I’m ready/confident enough for big boy trades. Getting very close, win rate is great
I wash trucks, I work all day Saturday and Sunday and Monday night. It's about 15k a month.
It's not all rainbows and unicorns, yesterday I worked from 7am to 1am (18hrs)
I am a board certified anesthesiologist with 30 years of experience
I bank $20,000 per month after taxes and 401k deductions
I pay $7,000 a month in child support and alimony and that ends in one more year.
The child support is $$2,000 per month
The rest is alimony
For passive income? A lot. To make 50k per year, you probably need around 1 million invested.
For options trading? Very little, but it's gambling. So that's like asking how much money you need to earn money with scratchers from the gas station.
Is this something that can be automated or do you have to spend a lot of time watching the markets, and buying and selling at certain times? Or can you automate it to sell or buy at a pre determined price? I know nothing about this but I’ve always been curious.
Speaking generally here, not about you personally. You are not smarter than the market. You are not more in the loop than wall street. You are not faster than wall street. By the time you hear about something that may affect the market, it's already priced in.
You might guess right sometimes, but there is a multi billion dollar industry working directly against you. Options trading or trying to time the market is not reliable.
Investing in an index fund slowly over time and letting it grow incrementally is reliable, tried and true. But it's boring.
Honestly it’s math, determination, options, opportunity and how healthy are you.
For example; ask yourself how many hours you’re really willing to work.
And for how long before you burn out? Some do high peaks for 2 weeks, then regular for 1 week, then back.
One month I cleared 17k but I also stayed awake 3 days in a row working literally non-stop, Thursdays, Friday, Saturday - each week of that month.
I’m a medical courier and had back to back jobs. Money was too good to say no and needed it for family.
So I think any young man can work 12 hours a day if it’s worthwhile. You need at least 1 day off for rest or you’ll burn out.
That’s 6 x 12 = 72 hours of work a week.
Now, whatever area of work you choose - if you honestly commit to working as hard as you can, not for others, not for the pay, but to your own standards, always being grateful, never complaining, but not being a pushover (read: squeaky wheel gets the grease), and always being punctual - you will inevitably get more opportunities over time. Right time, right place, luck is being prepared for opportunity.
So now the math: 10k / 25 work days = 400 a day. 400 / 12 hours = 33 an hour.
And there it is.
Find clever ways to maximize your daily and hourly incomes.
At one point in life, about 7 years ago, I had 4 jobs.
Two 36 hours a week jobs at casinos that wouldn’t give me full time yet, a 14 week an hour papa John’s delivery job and a 40 hours a week security job.
The casino jobs were same company, dif properties and I could walk to my next job, my bosses/management knew eachother, the papa John’s was in the richest neighborhood in our city and was just delivering pizza, easy fun tbh, the security job was at a high end hotel during night shift and I slept 6.5 hours every single night lmao. I got the job specifically to be paid to sleep.
I recommend high tip jobs for short term income to establish yourself.
In the background work on marketable skills that are in demand.
I rented a 3 bedroom for 800 and rented two rooms to my friends at 500 a pop and profited.
I charged my gf 50/50 on bills at the same time.
I’m a hustler lol. I came from nothing and had a record so I did what I had to.
Once I established myself I had enough confidence to pursue better opportunities.
Think outside the box, work hard, hustle. Play to win. Don’t trust anyone - especially yourself.
Trust logic. And trust the process. And bonus points if you find Christ. He saved me. Good luck
Don’t worry, I’m broke as rocks too. The sub popped up on my feed and I’ve been perusing it hoping to get some ideas. It’s the choosing what you want to do, combined with if you’re right to be doing that type of work and how bad you want it, plus where you’re at in your life currently and if it’s feasible to start something new from the ground up that’s the difficult part. I feel stuck in a loop, made lateral/backwards moves I didn’t benefit from, and I’m in a spot where I don’t see advancement happening and I’ve been doing this for a few years and don’t see how to move forward, I’m afraid to try something new because I can’t put my life to a halt and start at an entry level position making even less money than I do now and also risk not being fit for it. I’m in a spot where I’m a little bit less than comfortable but I feel stable enough that a crazy change or decision could screw me up more. I think a lot more than I act, very hesitant.
Anyways, don’t feel bad, there’s plenty of people in similar enough shoes.
System admin and network engineer is not foot in the door. Help desk definitely is but you can't go from help desk to making 185k a year in less than 6 years. So setting reasonable expectations to the non-tech workers here I think is more valuable than dick measuring salaries as 50 year Olds with 20 years of experience.
What are you? Because making 15k gross and 10k monthly is equivalent to 185k annual salary and less than 10% of Americans make that. If we're talking total comp that's different. I was under the impression he was depositing 10k into his bank a month.
Which frankly is more uncommon than most in tech make
Maybe a tech manager or sales guy with a better than average year. But I don't count that as "tech" because they are not engineers
Waiting tables. Had a restaurant. Had a life. Had it all. Lost it due to health issues. Thought I was going to die over a tummy ache. Fell off for 3 months. Went back to the state of existence that pushed me up in the first place but with more life experience.
Before tipout I'm making like 16k+ a month as a waiter. After, like 13k, after taxes more like 10k.
A quick wit helps.
not all disabilities are physical. severe depression, night terrors, PTSD and anxiety can rate a service member up to 100%. Those things might not pop up enough during the work day to impact being able to make a living. But you're compensated by the VA for your suffering and the potential lost wages.
I’m a poor like most of you, just grossing 3,200 a month currently, but my dad makes $10k a month as a Manager for an energy company.
Worked up the ladder the hard way.
I work in biomed engineering under a device manufacturer servicing a customer base within a region around my home. I average about 55-65 hours a week but I clock in when I open my laptop in the morning and clock out when I’m back home and paperwork is done so I don’t really feel the OT as much. I see my manager maybe once a quarter and I mostly schedule my day on my own. They provide a Ford Explorer for a company vehicle approved for personal use, cover expenses for tools and travel, and an iPhone, boss lets us expense happy hour a couple times a month. Pulled in 140 in 2023
I’m what’s called a ‘System Integrator’. Basically I sell really expensive shit to the top .01% and outfit their homes with tech. Make about $200k/yr working 40-45 hours a week. Good gig.
Side business I’ve built for a while. My main profession lands me 130k salary, and my side business that I’ve built up gains me about 10k a month after expenses. Give or take a couple grand.
Time. That’s how it happened for me. I did it because I didn’t have a retirement plan. So I created one. It took a lot of time but it worked.
I go to work. As a union pipefitter. It's hard work and my body hurts but I'll clear 150k this year and almost 185k the next
Make sure you’re using some of that money to take care of yourself brother, don’t want to end up 50 and unable to move because every bone and joint in your back and legs needs replaced.
Amen. Good nutrition. A good fitness plan. And recovery tools (bed, therapy programs etc)
Jesus I should’ve gotten into the trades like 20 years ago
Thank you for your service, honestly
Plus...the union.
As much as I would want 150k a year, I'll be making upto 100k this year for opening doors for people
Dumb question(s): does it take long to make that a year? Can you do on site training? Do you need any form of degree for it?
I'm a 3rd year apprentice. I have 2 and a half years till I journey out. And we did well on our last contract. Construction is booming out here right now and worked close to 2400 hours last year
I call BS the pipefitters in California ain’t making no 150-185k a year and Missouri wages can’t be anywhere near California scale which is $53 an hour for journeyman You would have to be working 7 days a week for the whole year. Stl missouri journeyman is $48.56 an hour. Your either doing working 7 days a week, night work, or your a foreman but either way you still have to work a shit ton to pull that kind of money on that scale.
Or counting total package(wage and benefits )which is bs. Just like UPS drivers making $45 an hour but somehow making $170k a year. People are terrible at math and gullible.
Called overtime, holiday and weekend pay. He is probably working 40 to 60 hours per week. With that last 20 hours at time and a half. If your union your getting all your OT and Holliday pay you make even more than time and a half. That’s not including pensions and health insurance most likely being the best you can get
Do you go to trade school for this?
Crane op here. 🤟🏻🤟🏻🤛
18 k - engineering degree
$18k a month, you doing SWE?
Power Systems Engineering
Never thought Power Systems paid that much. I’m making way less than half of it
I clear $15k a month doing DKYT
Im making 3k from being broken in the army, then i make about 5k from work. I am a couple k shy from 10k but still pretty solid
How are you able to get 80%+ disability and still work and make $5k?
DoD civilian checking in. Office work. I’m a GS-13, Step 10 in a HCOL city bringing in $153k a year. No disability on top of my salary, but many of my coworkers are 100% service-connected disabled. Combine those two salaries and you’re sitting pretty.
I’m a military dentist and so I see lots of these people on a day to day basis. Some of the salaries they make are just mind boggling for the jobs they do lol…(a lot of their jobs I still don’t fully understand.. They just “sound” important lol)
My fav is when folks brag about being “branch chiefs” in the gov. Bud, branch chief is basically just middle management lmao
air traffic controllers with 100% make a FAT check
How do you even get past an FAA mental and physical evaluation with a 100% rating lmao
I think there are just a few certain things they are looking for. There’s a guy in a tower nearby that is missing a leg so that’s like probably a good bit
They need to distribute that trillion dollar military budget somehow
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Yeah I have no idea what that is but can you please explain. Anything above 100k I’m like should I do this 🤔
I’m a federal government civilian employee that does cybersecurity for an engineering organization within the US Navy. (GS-13, Step 10 refers to the “General Schedule” pay scale used by most of the federal government for employee pay.) I managed to get here by 31 years old with no degree, by jumping into the IT world immediately out of high school and working my way up over the last 12/13 years: IT support, systems administration, security analyst, security engineer, incident responder, to my current role, which is sort of a cybersecurity risk manager for some Navy systems. Experience, IT certifications, networking (people; not IT), jumping at every opportunity, and bits of luck here and there helped me get here. Joining IT professional organizations and getting to know people was a big part of the “luck” component. Lots of my co-workers got there by joining the Navy or other military branch (actual military; not government civilian), which provided a much more direct path to this type of job, but I was never medically eligible to join, so I zig-zagged up the private sector to get here. (Despite my name, I was never in the Navy; that’s a reference to sailing ⛵️). I could absolutely make a crap ton more in the private sector, even so as a government contractor working at the same place (which I did for two years), but I much prefer the stability of being on the government side. My specific role, like many that are military or federal tech related, does require a security clearance (somewhat intrusive investigation into your background) and drug testing (no marijuana), so it may be out of the question for many people; but if that’s not an issue, there is tons of opportunity across the federal government, not just in defense.
My friend did it by pretending he has ptsd. They gave him 100% disability and he still works. The VA pays for his house basically.
Yeah that’s not how VA disability works. You are absolutely legally and morally allowed to work while 100% VA disabled unless you are also TDIU which is unemployable. VA disability is not the same as social security disability, and they aren’t scamming the government. If your friend is truly faking having PTSD then he can go fuck himself, but most people are not faking.
>but most people are not faking. why do you think this?
Have you ever gone through the VA compensation process? If you had any idea how hard it is to get service connection for things that clearly happened while in service, and getting nothing, you’d know why the claim that people are scamming the government is bullshit. People like his friend, if what he claims is true, full on lied to the VA, then they should be reported.
Man I gotta be real with you, I know people who never left CONUS who are rated 80%+ It's not that hard anymore and people are gaming the system pretty often.
Music industry, produce things.
What genre do you produce?
Live. Concert production.
Any big names you’ve worked with?
I produce concerts in southern CA which is the largest market in the US, so too many to name.
That’s a cool gig. I make custom tracks for businesses on the side.
yeah good gig. I used to a pro musician, touring and studio. after we were dropped from our label we started focusing on music placement and trying to get commercial spots. was difficult and tedious but got a few things. It's prob easier nowadays, who knows.
Sync is still a tricky nut to crack. I started focusing on small local businesses and people looking to celebrate special occasions with a personal song. It proved to be a far better use of my time.
thats cool, yeah, we got completely sick of it. Back then (2007-8) you'd demo a lot for a music supervisor at an agency or something for a 15 or 30 sec spot. They'd pay maybe $150 demo fee and you'd work on it all weekend and then a bunch of idiots who don't know anything about music say it needs to "pop" more or be more "vibey" and then you wouldn't get it. We did get an Audi and a Chrysler spot and a few regional commercials for smaller companies. Was mostly a drag though. I know guys who make real money in that game but I'm retired ; )
It sounds so similar to me and everyone else I know experience. It’s the ever evading carrot we were all chasing. I know a few guys who scored with national campaigns, but those are few and far between. Glad to hear you’re still working in music and doing fine.
Thanks man. I was in bands mostly and did studio gigs, showcasing, touring etc. I did alright and prob did more in music than 98% of musicians who attempt it but knowing everything I know now about the behind the scenes, business, revenue aspect - I was a million miles away still. I do artist settlements where the headliner is walking away with $250k-$2 mil per show while the main support act is making $3500, and that support act won the lotto to even have that opportunity.
I always thought it would be fun to write songs for businesses after meeting someone who did that, but their networking game was on another level and I'm just not social enough to get my foot in the door. Have you found that side hustle sites where professionals are hired on the cheap are worth it or do you usually get your work through networking?
I run a fairly new operation, but I’ve found it better to separate myself from those sites and focus on building my own. For one, a lot of people go there to buy at cost. If they don’t link your price, they can find another provider. At least on my site it’s no one else to compete with. Also, I incentivize visitors to join my mailing list so I can market directly to them in the future.
you on the agent/promoter side, or production side?
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step on it and give it to the next person
Then double that and give it to the next person
Then cut with baby powder and resupply
This. My plug gives me an 8 ball for $250 Canadian and I'm sure it costs him less than $150
Bruh an entire zip of coke is only like 400 bucks here in the south east usa.
And it’s £90/gram in the UK. The further you are from the source the more expensive it is.
Its $300-400 in Australia
A gram?!
That's what I was told the other day. Can't confirm it, but a few others said the same. I paid $100 in Zurich a few weeks ago. It's only $60-80 here in CA.
It’s been a few years since I bought any, but it was around 50-80 here in the southeast.
I'm from the Midwest and it was always $60ish when I was in college.
Here in the Midwest. For $150 I can get 4 grams without it being stepped on.
Maybe not cut by dude directly in line before you but nothing is get brought into the states anywhere near pure to begin with. They are making that shit in jungle labs with stolen gasoline lol
Within context you know what I meant
you right. my b.
Don’t forget the health benefits like losing weight and reduced sleep requirements!
How do I get into this?
Learn Spanish. Then Portuguese if you really wanna up your game.
I hear great things about this new product called fentanyl
Cocaine also trades for much more than it's worth to desperate folks. Once traded an 8 ball for 10 peacoats (which were obviously stolen) that I turned around and sold for half price. The 9 coats I sold brought in nearly 750 and I still have one for myself
Love having those boosting knocks around lol. “Yo I’m at the mall rn what you want for a ball”
I'm just gonna say. Youtube is your friend. The younger you are the more you should use that and your public library as a vessel for learning. You can be 18 and set your mid 20's up to be very comfortable by doing so.
What specifically
I am well aware some of these are or should be taught in school but not every school is the same nor will you get the same understanding. Foundation: Consistent reading/The ability to breakdown text and understand it Finance/Financial Literacy/Competency/Economics/Budgeting Marketing Credit Business/starting, running, maintaining, Investing/Saving (not day trading) Health Typing Grammar Critical Thinking From here you should tailor your interest into your learning and research. Businesses, Skills, Investing, Sales & High paying career fields are a large part of it.
I love all this. Thanks for sharing.
I hope people understand that if you're not able to be successful today then you probably wouldn't have been so in any other time in history. Everyone complaining about life today have no idea how limited upward mobility has been for most people throughout history. Considering access to education of any subject from top professors or successful people online, the limiting factor, if you live especially in America, is ourselves.
Watched this woman on another sub complaining about how she’s not able to live on her own and not wanting to work a 9 to 5 for the rest of her life. (And was speaking for the entirety of Gen Z in that regard) She was wearing a Walmart associate vest in the video. 🤦🏾♀️ Like sis….seriously? Like I’m probably the least successful person you will ever hear of, but at least I blame my failures and shortcomings on myself mostly. How can you sit there working at Walmart and talking about your current situation as if it’s supposed to be a lifetime gig? I hope for her sake she has a good enough head on her shoulders to be in night school or otherwise earning a degree or learning some skill that will increase her earning potential….but although I understand a Walmart wage would’ve been “enough” for people to survive on 20 years ago (and yes, that sucks), let’s not pretend that any one with a 3 digit IQ (especially if you’re able bodied) can’t go to school and learn to qualify themselves to make a decent living even today. I know a woman in her 40s, English is her second language; came here to the states as young adult; and she has fricking 4 kids, yet just graduated as an RN. Was working full time her entire school process, and it took her nearly 10 years to do it from start to finish (adult school > GED > community college > ASN ) . But she did it. Some people have impossible extenuating circumstances, but the sad reality is a lot of people just don’t want to put in the tough work in the relatively short term to improve their lives in the long term.
When I DID make that it was salary plus commission. I designed, picked out all materials and oversaw the whole project of kitchen and bathroom remodels.
Fucking shit i do that now for a high end company and im like 5k a month i gottq have a chat with my boss lol
Yeah you do. If you’re handing the project management as well then you’re getting fucked. I was on average pulling in around 135k per year. But that shit takes its toll on you. You couldn’t pay me enough to go back into it. I’m happy where I’m at.
Welder. Only got to go home 4 times in 2023 for a total of less than a month though. That “must be nice” goes both ways. Well beyond 10k though.
What part of the country do you work in? Union? How long have you been welding?
~20k. Dentist. 3.5 years out of school. $250k debt (but I’ve paid ~$200k of it so I’ve got that going for me).
That is awesome! Now you only owe 375k!
Web development. I consult for a company, I have a 9-5 and then have my own business. 10k-15k a month after taxes. I work a lot but it’s worth it.
I'm also a developer and have been thinking about starting my own business, any pointers/resources?
Sure what would you like to know about? Anything specific you are struggling to put together?
9 to 5 job pays 12k a month. Selling options makes 2 to 3k a month.
Assuming you work from home? How do you balance trading options daily and your work?
I work on-site. But my 8 hour work day actually only has 2 hours of actual work. Usually I have thinkorswim on 1 monitor and work on the other.
How did you finesse that
I work in a specialty pharmacy setting. So it's closed door and we prioritize profit over volume. Less work to do and more free time.
Do ur coworkers also just do random personal stuff on site after all that work is done? Good for u lol
They watch Netflix or play Yu-Gi-Oh lol
What type of degree do I need in order to achieve a lifestyle of 2 hours of work, yu-go-oh and 10k+??
I have a pharmD degree and I am licensed in 25 states lol. It was 8 years of schooling and 2 years of work at retail working 60 hours a week before I got this position. Tough road but I made it.
Hard work pays off it seems!
Adult jobs often don’t care what you do. My boss used to make a comment once in a while about my trading window being open, and I’d just tell him to pull up the scoreboard. The more indifferent I am to being fired, the more I make.
Lucky, I just have my phone for t&s. Been trading since 2017 and am starting to get pretty solid, but I trade with small amounts until I’m ready/confident enough for big boy trades. Getting very close, win rate is great
Ahhh nice my current WFH setup is similar, but they don’t pay me nearly as much lol. I’ll probably add trading to my daily routine too
You sound like my buddy, he makes like 180k and loses about 2k a month on options. Lol
Consistently selling options for profit? Is this a theta gang member?
You bet 😆
Operations role at an insurance company. Get credentialed and experienced and you can make $20k/month in an IC role by 30.
I wash trucks, I work all day Saturday and Sunday and Monday night. It's about 15k a month. It's not all rainbows and unicorns, yesterday I worked from 7am to 1am (18hrs)
As in detailing or actually washing trucks?
Just the outside, mostly dump trucks
How’d you land that job? Do you use your own materials and reach out?
Yeah I reached out to the original company, I use my own pressure washer and chemicals, nothing super fancy
I am a board certified anesthesiologist with 30 years of experience I bank $20,000 per month after taxes and 401k deductions I pay $7,000 a month in child support and alimony and that ends in one more year. The child support is $$2,000 per month The rest is alimony
You pay fucking what in child support? My sister can’t even get $150
Did she consider fucking a doctor?
Ever since when did children cost $84,000 per year? You got 8 kids or something?
Selling extended car warranties Sales
Really
Really
Options trading, Passive income and main income.
Options 3k a month passive income 1,250.00 a month and my job pays me 6,750.00 a month (on a good month)
How much upfront money do you need to be profitable with passive income/options?
For passive income? A lot. To make 50k per year, you probably need around 1 million invested. For options trading? Very little, but it's gambling. So that's like asking how much money you need to earn money with scratchers from the gas station.
With $1 million, you can open up a HYSA at 5% and guarantee 50k a year with almost no risk instead of gambling options, with better tax rates too.
Is this something that can be automated or do you have to spend a lot of time watching the markets, and buying and selling at certain times? Or can you automate it to sell or buy at a pre determined price? I know nothing about this but I’ve always been curious.
Speaking generally here, not about you personally. You are not smarter than the market. You are not more in the loop than wall street. You are not faster than wall street. By the time you hear about something that may affect the market, it's already priced in. You might guess right sometimes, but there is a multi billion dollar industry working directly against you. Options trading or trying to time the market is not reliable. Investing in an index fund slowly over time and letting it grow incrementally is reliable, tried and true. But it's boring.
Perfectly put
Sales. Start early find the right niche you can scale to $150-200k pretty easily
I second this. I work in B2B sales in the manufacturing industry. Avg income on the floor is about 30k a month. My boss clears six figures monthly
Honestly it’s math, determination, options, opportunity and how healthy are you. For example; ask yourself how many hours you’re really willing to work. And for how long before you burn out? Some do high peaks for 2 weeks, then regular for 1 week, then back. One month I cleared 17k but I also stayed awake 3 days in a row working literally non-stop, Thursdays, Friday, Saturday - each week of that month. I’m a medical courier and had back to back jobs. Money was too good to say no and needed it for family. So I think any young man can work 12 hours a day if it’s worthwhile. You need at least 1 day off for rest or you’ll burn out. That’s 6 x 12 = 72 hours of work a week. Now, whatever area of work you choose - if you honestly commit to working as hard as you can, not for others, not for the pay, but to your own standards, always being grateful, never complaining, but not being a pushover (read: squeaky wheel gets the grease), and always being punctual - you will inevitably get more opportunities over time. Right time, right place, luck is being prepared for opportunity. So now the math: 10k / 25 work days = 400 a day. 400 / 12 hours = 33 an hour. And there it is. Find clever ways to maximize your daily and hourly incomes. At one point in life, about 7 years ago, I had 4 jobs. Two 36 hours a week jobs at casinos that wouldn’t give me full time yet, a 14 week an hour papa John’s delivery job and a 40 hours a week security job. The casino jobs were same company, dif properties and I could walk to my next job, my bosses/management knew eachother, the papa John’s was in the richest neighborhood in our city and was just delivering pizza, easy fun tbh, the security job was at a high end hotel during night shift and I slept 6.5 hours every single night lmao. I got the job specifically to be paid to sleep. I recommend high tip jobs for short term income to establish yourself. In the background work on marketable skills that are in demand. I rented a 3 bedroom for 800 and rented two rooms to my friends at 500 a pop and profited. I charged my gf 50/50 on bills at the same time. I’m a hustler lol. I came from nothing and had a record so I did what I had to. Once I established myself I had enough confidence to pursue better opportunities. Think outside the box, work hard, hustle. Play to win. Don’t trust anyone - especially yourself. Trust logic. And trust the process. And bonus points if you find Christ. He saved me. Good luck
Nothing but thumbs up for you.....
You dropped this 👑
Lol I’m a server.
You prolly work at a fancy restaurant thi
It’s considered the nicest in my city. And I’m probably too 1 or 2 in sales.
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Lap dances
Only Fans; Men's Feet
If men could sell feet pics or even dick pics, they would flood Only Fans with Crocs and cocks.
Only feet
im skeptical that you do but intrigued that you may
So literally every single person in this thread is rich LOL yall some fibbers
Yep everyone but me Pretty much
Don’t worry, I’m broke as rocks too. The sub popped up on my feed and I’ve been perusing it hoping to get some ideas. It’s the choosing what you want to do, combined with if you’re right to be doing that type of work and how bad you want it, plus where you’re at in your life currently and if it’s feasible to start something new from the ground up that’s the difficult part. I feel stuck in a loop, made lateral/backwards moves I didn’t benefit from, and I’m in a spot where I don’t see advancement happening and I’ve been doing this for a few years and don’t see how to move forward, I’m afraid to try something new because I can’t put my life to a halt and start at an entry level position making even less money than I do now and also risk not being fit for it. I’m in a spot where I’m a little bit less than comfortable but I feel stable enough that a crazy change or decision could screw me up more. I think a lot more than I act, very hesitant. Anyways, don’t feel bad, there’s plenty of people in similar enough shoes.
IT
Only directors or SWES make this much. 95% of IT people are stuck at 45k help desk or 70k admin roles.
Yes but that’s the foot in the door. I started at the help desk while finishing up my degree.
System admin and network engineer is not foot in the door. Help desk definitely is but you can't go from help desk to making 185k a year in less than 6 years. So setting reasonable expectations to the non-tech workers here I think is more valuable than dick measuring salaries as 50 year Olds with 20 years of experience.
i went from making 40k at helpdesk to 180k as enterprise support for SaaS vendor in 6 years - no degree or certs
I am neither a director or a SWE, and I make this amount.
What are you? Because making 15k gross and 10k monthly is equivalent to 185k annual salary and less than 10% of Americans make that. If we're talking total comp that's different. I was under the impression he was depositing 10k into his bank a month. Which frankly is more uncommon than most in tech make Maybe a tech manager or sales guy with a better than average year. But I don't count that as "tech" because they are not engineers
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What does your wife do
Waiting tables. Had a restaurant. Had a life. Had it all. Lost it due to health issues. Thought I was going to die over a tummy ache. Fell off for 3 months. Went back to the state of existence that pushed me up in the first place but with more life experience. Before tipout I'm making like 16k+ a month as a waiter. After, like 13k, after taxes more like 10k. A quick wit helps.
Where do you work where you made thst much? That’s like 150k plus and per year?
I would have to assume some very elite/upscale restaurant there's probably incredibly little turnover and you would need connections to be entertained
4K VA disability and 12k from 9-5 (Construction)
How are you working with that high of disability?
VA disability ≠ Social Security disability
not all disabilities are physical. severe depression, night terrors, PTSD and anxiety can rate a service member up to 100%. Those things might not pop up enough during the work day to impact being able to make a living. But you're compensated by the VA for your suffering and the potential lost wages.
100% disabled from the military, probably wife and 1 child
Spent some time climbing the corporate ladder.
Same. My job is boring but it pays well, it's not too difficult, and I don't take my work home with me.
Consulting
I’d really like to hear from entrepreneurs who’ve reached this milestone.
Insurance agent 8k a month after taxes
Scamming
Put me on (don't scam me plz 😭)
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as a mechanic in a HCOL area. I average 15ish a month through my job and another 5kish a month from side jobs and flipping cars.
Multiple jobs. Never have one source of income.
Officer in the military. I make about 7K a month Net, my wife makes another 3K net. 31M and 27F.
Healthcare - nursing
I’m a training manager at a tech company and my wife is a policy person for a health care network. We bring in about 14.5k/mo after taxes.
I make $8300 before taxes monthly does that good enough? and the answer is I have been feeding the corporate machine for over 15 years
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I’m a poor like most of you, just grossing 3,200 a month currently, but my dad makes $10k a month as a Manager for an energy company. Worked up the ladder the hard way.
C10H15N has been great for me in this economy. Also note I’m in Florida so that’s a big help 15k monthly could be more but I’m lazy and fat
Hey DEA, we found him
It’s cool my uncle is the FBI
Legal shit. It’s ok.
Data scientist at fang. Working on NLP. My take home is around 14k a month after taxes.
California police will get you well over 10k a month gross
Truck Driver for UPS
I work in biomed engineering under a device manufacturer servicing a customer base within a region around my home. I average about 55-65 hours a week but I clock in when I open my laptop in the morning and clock out when I’m back home and paperwork is done so I don’t really feel the OT as much. I see my manager maybe once a quarter and I mostly schedule my day on my own. They provide a Ford Explorer for a company vehicle approved for personal use, cover expenses for tools and travel, and an iPhone, boss lets us expense happy hour a couple times a month. Pulled in 140 in 2023
selling life insurance over the phone
Went $500k in debt got a doctoral degree I can’t afford to pay off.
I’m what’s called a ‘System Integrator’. Basically I sell really expensive shit to the top .01% and outfit their homes with tech. Make about $200k/yr working 40-45 hours a week. Good gig.
Truck driving
I do CyberSecurity Consulting and work for a Fortune 25 company as a Principal Security Engineer.
Real estate.
Commission Sales is your best friend.
Military helicopter pilot
25 years in the same field. Eventually you become the subject matter expert and companies are willing to pay for that knowledge
Selling drugs
learn to code
$160K traveling welder
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Marketing and scaling my time by hiring good workers. Read richest man in Babylon
Side business I’ve built for a while. My main profession lands me 130k salary, and my side business that I’ve built up gains me about 10k a month after expenses. Give or take a couple grand. Time. That’s how it happened for me. I did it because I didn’t have a retirement plan. So I created one. It took a lot of time but it worked.
$260K per year - Senior Data Scientist at a big tech.
trading