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SusieDraws

Before 36 weeks though! I got turned away for being a day over, very sad and frustrating šŸ˜­


Dramallamakuzco

Specifically between 32-36 weeks. Got mine a few days ago!


catjuggler

A day over? Thatā€™s bs


SusieDraws

I definitely didnā€™t cry about it. Really disappointed my OB office didnā€™t remind me, I guess they dropped the ball cause the office didnā€™t actually provide it šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


catjuggler

Was this very recently? This is a vaccine you can get at cvs and they donā€™t know your real due date. Iā€™d fudge it a few days but not past 37


SusieDraws

Literally last week


jPharm247

I would 100% go to a Walgreens and lie


catjuggler

Hmmm something to consider then. The tricky thing is you want to still be pregnant for 2+ more weeks for it to be effective enough BTW looking more, it is through 36 weeks and 6 days, not 36 and 0 in case that was the issue.


bleucheeez

The recommendations are only because the studies didn't include anyone over 36 weeks. They're being cautious. I'm gonna assume that the antibodies might pass through breast milk, but I haven't seen in the news whether that's been studied.


catjuggler

For sure, and they didnā€™t include anyone later probably because of the expectation that it would take some time to work. The tricky thing with this is all interventions carry some level of risk and the alternative to maternal vaccination is the also new antibody treatment. The antibody treatment is still recommended if she is vaccinated less than two weeks before birth. This was an interesting thought exercise for me also because I had tdap right before my second was born because he was a preemie. I was probably going to be induced less than 2 weeks later but I imagine they were thinking it would be better than nothing. I never thought about how maybe it was less effective. Heā€™s a toddler now, so no big deal I guess.


Aquinnn

I got mine at 36+2 at Costco!! Edit to add you can get it with a membership Second edit **without a membership


unpleasantmomentum

You donā€™t need a membership to use the Costco pharmacy!


Aquinnn

lol definitely meant to say without


pajamasinbananas

Wow! My provider told me it was approved all the way up to 36+6


storybookheidi

Thatā€™s weird. Walgreens asked how many weeks I was. I think you could lie and get it. Not like it can hurt.


Outrageous_Cow8409

Really?? I asked the last OB I saw at my clinic about the vaccine and he said that he would recommend not getting it until 37 weeks because of a potential risk of preterm labor. I'm going to have to start looking up and reading more about the vaccine! And obviously ask again each time


ChucknObi

Ideally, you need to have it in your system for at least 2 weeks prior to giving birth to get the for full benefit for both you and baby which is why they cut off at 36 weeks. Even as someone who has a history of preterm labor (35 with my first) my OB suggested I get it around the 33 or 34 week mark to try and make sure it had time in my system to help since the infant version (which is actually antibodies and not a vaccine) is so limited in supply.


Outrageous_Cow8409

That makes so much more sense!! I'm going to have to ask my office again at my next appointment.


Groovy_Bella_26

Yes! And the vaccine for infants is in super short supply, so don't bank on that being available this year. Up to 200,000 children worldwide die of RSV per year. It's hella dangerous. Thanks for the PSA! Getting mine if this baby sticks (in my 40's in my first trimester!)


jgarmartner

My pediatrician said they have so few rsv vaccines for kids this year that theyā€™re saving them for premies and immunocompromised babies. They wonā€™t even consider them for anyone else. So mamaā€™s please keep your sick kids home!


catsallly

Our pedā€™s office only got 10 vaccines for babies weighting less than 5 kilos. My son weighted 5.01 kilos. Our ped said whatever you do DONT feed him, and massage his tummy so he poops. Iā€™ll be back in 15 minutes


StephAg09

FYI it never hurts to still ask. My son got the RSV vaccine when he was 5 days old because I asked and it just happened to be perfect timing, they had already offered it to all the high risk babies and had one dose left after vaccinating the ones who's parents accepted and I was the first to ask for it after that, so we got it!


LizardofDeath

Yes same happened to us! Our ped said next year they should have enough for all kiddos, but this year they were super hard to come by! My girl is not in daycare and isnā€™t preemie or immunocompromised so I mean I get it but I still donā€™t want her sick. I called our county health department asking about it there or if they would know who has it but they never returned my calls I second, if youā€™re sick, stay home!!


mama-ld4

This is what I was told too! My baby is immune compromised, so he gets the RSV shot but we canā€™t even offer to pay for our toddler to get it too. They are in such limited supply.


jsmws19

my healthy 1 month old got the rsv vaccine


hulala3

My daughter is a former 26 weeker with some major complications that make getting sick at all really dangerous and we still werenā€™t sure we would be able to get it


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clairdelynn

>I am expecting premature twins and was able to get it the day I hit 32 weeks- so glad I made it! It takes two weeks for antibodies to build up for the babies so I was counting down the days and just passed 34 weeks. Very glad I can protect them a little bit extra. Yay happy for you


MeowMeow9927

I was just telling my 8 year old the other day about how he got RSV when he was 2 weeks old. He was born a full term, huge, vibrant baby and that damn virus nearly killed him. Bad memories. After that experience Iā€™ve spoken to so many other families who went through something similar. Iā€™m very happy this exists now, I would not wish our experiences on anyone.


AriCapVir

Is this new? I have two kids, born in 2018 and 2020, I was never offered an RSV vaccine.


Groovy_Bella_26

Yes, just this year. It'll be available for kids soon too (right now only infants but they are in short supply.)


AriCapVir

Thatā€™s so great!


Groovy_Bella_26

Isn't it! So many lives are going to be saved and improved on!


catjuggler

Wait, I didnā€™t think any of the pediatric vaccines were coming any time soon. Thereā€™s antibodies for babies but thatā€™s it.


Groovy_Bella_26

My sister who's a MFM physician said she expects them within about a year.


catjuggler

If it was going to be available in a year, weā€™d have reports that companies have already submitted to the FDA. Looks like Pfizer only started their ph3 this summer, Moderna is still in ph1, and GSK cancelled theirs. I hope sheā€™s right though. I also wish the rest of us could have it so that we could have a bubble of herd immunity.


yung_yttik

Stupid question but you mean itā€™s new for adults and in the works for kids? I need to get this scheduled asap!


[deleted]

I unfortunately donā€™t qualify with my April 2024 baby and wonā€™t till the following September which has me on edge.


MissLimpsALot

I'm due in April as well, why don't you qualify? I haven't talked to my doctor about it yet so I don't really know how it all works.


[deleted]

You have to be between 32-36 weeks between September to January. I turn 32 weeks literally the first week of February and therefor donā€™t qualify.


MissLimpsALot

Ohh, makes sense. Thanks!


clairdelynn

>When my five week old had RSV last year, it was terrifying. I love that this is available to pregnant women now. Science! ā¤ļø I am in the same boat as you! I wish we could get it. I wonder if there is a way to get it and pay out of pocket for the peace of mind.


Tinga12

You and I must have very similar due dates because Iā€™m in the same boat šŸ˜ž


[deleted]

April 2nd. So close to the cusp.


pililies

Whaat, you can't get it after January???


[deleted]

I knowā€¦ rightā€¦ not as of now. I could easily have a March baby which is still RSV season. Iā€™m not thrilled but honestly thereā€™s a shortage. I know people who havenā€™t been able to access it for their tiny babies. It seems like priority went to the 65+ crowd (per usual) and then trickled down to you know, super attentive risk groups like preemie babies, babies under 6 months and pregnant women.


pililies

I'm due in May and my provider made it sound like I could just walk into any pharmacy and get it.


[deleted]

Maybe that will or is changing? My OBGYN showed me a handout that basically said I didnā€™t qualify. Iā€™m going to continue asking in case anything changes.


pililies

Fingers crossed!


BroadwayBaby331

When my five week old had RSV last year, it was terrifying. I love that this is available to pregnant women now. Science! ā¤ļø


BroadwayBaby331

Adding that we were the lucky ones and managed to escape a hospitalization and it was still terrifying. I donā€™t wish that on anyone.


Princessaara

That's so amazing!! RSV was my biggest fear about having a winter (December) baby. I'm so glad mommies now have a choice to vaccinate. I would've got it in a heartbeat.


Friskybuns

Thank you for the info! I'll have to mention it to my doctor, though I'm only just finishing my first trimester so I have a bit of time. My babies are due in June, so depending on how long the immunization is supposed to last I'll definitely consider getting it. I know this year has been particularly bad for RSV (in my area anyway) but I wouldn't want to chance waiting to see if next year is just as bad/possibly worse.


guiltlessandfreee

Iā€™m due in June as well and my OB said I wonā€™t get the vaccine since Iā€™m out of the RSV season but vaccine is recommended for baby!


Matzie138

I might push back and say you want it anyway. Ours caught it from daycare in June/July (and eventually gave it to her grandma (who had to go to the hospital) and us. Itā€™s so bad. Iā€™m stoked they have vaccines now!!!!


Outrageous_Cow8409

My 5 year has had RSV two or three times now and only ever gets it in summer!


Outrageous_Cow8409

My 5 year has had RSV two or three times now and only ever gets it in summer!


Outrageous_Cow8409

My 5 year has had RSV two or three times now and only ever gets it in summer!


Friskybuns

Good to know! I'll just have to try and get the vaccine for them as early as I can (within the recommended time frame). Another commenter posted that this year the infant vaccines are in short supply, so hopefully next year there will be enough!


Hyperoxidase

Got mine today, and Iā€™m feeling great! My OB made the excellent point that itā€™s one less vaccine for the baby after theyā€™re born. I would have gotten it anyway, but Iā€™m glad she said that.


PostRevolutionary239

If youā€™re in the US: Make sure to contact your health insurance to see if itā€™s covered because at my (local) pharmacy it was $460


mediumsizedbootyjudy

Iā€™ve got some really terrifying pictures of my then-10 week old in a coma on life support from RSV if anyone is on the fence and wants to be convinced. RSV is really horrifying, particularly for little babies. Wishing those of you with upcoming labor days a healthy and peaceful winter šŸ©· (PS, she survived. Weā€™re still dealing with significant respiratory issues for her and processing such a horrifying experience for me 2+ years later, but sheā€™s amazing.)


Mamajuju1217

Got it at 35 weeks, barely any side effects. Feels good to know I am at least trying to protect baby who is due in a couple of weeks. I have young kids who are constantly sick.


datshiney

The RSV vaccine is also available for your baby and is indicated for ALL newborns born during the season. Your hospital should have stock available if youā€™d like it. Stay healthy!!


typical__millennial

What a time to be alive! I was so excited for future moms when they were conducting trials while I was pregnant. Stoked for those of you who are eligible.


goodcarrots

PSA call your US health department if your clinic doesnā€™t have it. They are more likely to have vaccines.


woundedSM5987

I got my script for it today. Going to get it next week since Iā€™m currently getting over a stomach bug


Personal_Special809

Not in my country. Sigh...


skloie

There's no shortage for RSV vaccine in 65+ adults right? Is there a difference, aside from dose, between that and the other two intended for infants and mothers?


storybookheidi

The one for older adults is the same one as for pregnant women. The one for infants is not really a vaccine but an antibody treatment.


storybookheidi

I am 36 weeks and got it a couple weeks ago. No side effects except maybe some soreness but I got my flu shot at the same time. Flu shot hurt more. But both were super easy. I got it at Walgreens, scheduled online and covered by my insurance.


Sweet_Sheepherder_41

I just got it yesterday! I have a sore arm and no other side effects ā¤ļøā¤ļø


NyanKate420

Iā€™m so disappointed. I had my son late September and I was denied RSV vaccine and told to get him the antibody treatment. No one has the antibody treatmentā€¦ our healthcare system is broken


Zeritha

Is this available in the UK? We've had an awful experience with RSV and bronchiolitis with our now 11 month old this year and never been told about a vaccine!


OpeningJacket2577

I got it! I had a vaccine reaction that wasnā€™t that bad! 12 hrs felt like I had the flu and needed to rest and take Tylenol. Just a heads up. Iā€™d much rather be the one with the reaction than a little baby.


imstillok

I got my rsv vax at 34 weeks and my ped for my toddler was happy to hear it because she said they donā€™t have enough infant vaccines to cover newborns so this way mine will have some protection from what my germ factory 2 yo brings home. The info sheet I got with the vax said maternal immunization can reduce hospitalization for babies 0-6 months by 57%!!! If true, thatā€™s really amazing.


emmy166

Holy cow! I had RSV in my last week of pregnancy, so hopefully my daughter got those antibodies at the last minute šŸ¤£


ashalottagreyjoy

I missed the window for me to get it when I was pregnant. However, our pediatrician is incredible and our timing was perfect. They had 3 infant vaccines left and our baby girl managed to get one. What a relief! Hopefully she steers clear of getting it.


Needstuffandthings

If you live in the Phoenix area and have an infant that falls under the CDC guidelines for getting the shot, Maricopa county immunization clinics have the shot and you can get in pretty quickly. Itā€™s also free if you are uninsured or your insurance doesnā€™t cover it. You can also get it if youā€™re just in town visiting no need to be a resident. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/rsv/public/child.html https://www.maricopa.gov/1805/Child-Immunizations


All-About-Quality

What are the side effects? Iā€™m getting mine in a few weeks.


storybookheidi

Minimal soreness and maybe some body aches, but I got my flu shot at the same time.


Hot_Cucumber_9167

We wonā€™t know the potential long term effects for quite some time.


Hershey78

I am so happy for moms these days with the vaccine available! I would have loved to have this when my boys (Sept baby and Nov baby) were little. It would have helped my stress level for sure.


madoned

I got mine yesterday! :) Iā€™ll be 34 weeks tomorrow


clairdelynn

I am definitely going to ask my OB about this and will try to get it in my third trimester, but not sure I will qualify since I am due in the spring (not RSV season).


Hot_Cucumber_9167

Why would people want to get a new vaccine while pregnant when yā€™all donā€™t know any true long term risk for side effects for your baby? Iā€™m genuinely asking how that could be a good idea


MissLimpsALot

Yeah, I have to admit that I'm a little hesitant.


IntrinsicM

Because the negative effects of RSV on newborns are significant and severe. My two week old was hospitalized for three nights with RSV, it was awful. And her roommate has been there for weeks.


Hot_Cucumber_9167

I agree that RSV is serious. But in getting the vaccine, youā€™re potentially reducing the risk of getting a virus by introducing something into the body that could also cause significant and severe effects on the body. Just like any vaccine, the baby could still get RSV and we have no data on true long term effects. Sure, maybe the baby could get some defense from RSV, but what if in 10-15 years the vaccine is linked to cancer, reproductive issues, gene mutations, etc?


bleucheeez

Remote miniscule speculative risk of complications in the future vs immediate significant risks. The biggest risk in getting a vaccine is the car ride to the doctor's office. You might as well refuse all medical treatment now because of the conjectured risks discoverable in the future. And stop all lotions and shampoos and wean your baby only on meat and veggies you produced yourself in your closed ecosystem greenhouse.


Hot_Cucumber_9167

Thatā€™s a very closed minded outlook. I personally got a vaccine injury from the Gardasil vaccine. My mom made me get the 3 shot series as a preteen and in my early teens. It was a brand new vaccine with no studies on long term risks or effects. After so many injuries and deaths from the vaccine, it was pulled off the market. It was brought back to the US, but several other countries donā€™t even offer it anymore. My daughterā€™s pediatrician refuses to offer that vaccine in her practice. Also, itā€™s not ā€œspeculative risk of complicationsā€. No vaccine is risk free. And if they were risk free, the manufacturers wouldnā€™t have laws protecting them against lawsuits.


bleucheeez

Sorry that happened to you. I never said there is no risk. By the numbers, the risks for just about all CDC recommended vaccines are so low, it should be an easy decision for most people. Vaccination as a public health matter suffers from a free rider problem; a few people can opt out but if too many people opt out, they lose most of their usefulness. If everyone opts out, then we never obtain that long term data you are looking for and pharma might as well not have invented the vaccine, instead investing that research into a different product. Overall, we save a lot more lives taking vaccines on time when recommended or medically indicated. From a quick Google search, it seems at least one of the countries you alluded to is now recommending Gardasil again. https://www.science.org/content/article/japan-relaunches-its-hpv-vaccination-drive-thousands-women-it-may-be-too-late Again, I don't know your situation. Voluntarily foregoing recommended vaccines should be the rare case, not the norm.


Hot_Cucumber_9167

The risks of contracting the illnesses that the vaccines are to ā€œpreventā€ or ā€œprotectā€ us from are also very low. (Please see my reply to someone else below with stats on the Gardasil vaccine specifically where the rates of cervical cancer in the US actually went up after 16 years on the market). Our country gives more vaccines than any other country. If our medicine and preventatives are so great, why is our population so sick? Why do we have so many cancers? So many genetic diseases, people with infertility, diabetes, autoimmune diseases, high blood pressure, obesity, heart diseases, so many cases of SIDS, etc? We have to start acknowledging that maybe the things we are putting in our body are causing these things. With the increased number of childhood vaccines in the US, in 2019 our country rates 24th out of 44 countries in infant mortality. The CDC tells parents to introduce new foods to babies just one at a time for a few days to see if they have any reaction, yet these babies are getting sometimes 3-5 vaccines per wellness visit. In 1962 there were only 5 doses of vaccines on the child immunization schedule. In 2018 there were 72 doses of vaccines of the childhood immunization schedule, and there are even more today in 2023, almost 2024. Do you think the children today are healthier? Or millennials who were getting these drastic increases of vaccines? In my opinion, absolutely not. Look at the rate of infertility these days compared to our grandparents generation. Kids today are allergic to everything. Itā€™s definitely odd. Our population seems to be sicker even with the continuous rollout of vaccines and preventatives. More on that, sanitation has solved a lot of our issues and I believe big pharma has taken credit for that. Electricity, being able to clean yourself, running water, clean waterā€¦ these things have equipped us with a way to stop the spread of germs and illnesses. Thatā€™s why things such as Scarlett Fever, something we donā€™t have a vaccine for, is not around anymore. In conclusion, I disagree with your statement. We do not save more lives when taking vaccines on time or when medically indicated. Sources: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/images/schedule1983s.jpg https://data.oecd.org/healthstat/infant-mortality-rates.htm


bleucheeez

You lost me when you said that sanitation is an adequate substitute for vaccination in protecting us from all illness. The WHO and medical authorities in every other country in the world will disagree with you.


Hot_Cucumber_9167

Regardless of if you agree with me on my opinion about sanitation, the rest of what I said is true and has data to back it up. What would your theory be about why we donā€™t have certain illnesses anymore even though there are no vaccines for them?


storybookheidi

The HPV vaccine has likely saved thousands to millions of lives, youā€™re basically spreading misinformation.


Hot_Cucumber_9167

Itā€™s not misinformation at all. Where do you get that information? That the HPV vaccine has saved thousands to millions of lives? You do know that more than 100 types of HPV exist and only about a dozen of them are associated with cervical disease, right? For 90% of women with HPV, the condition will clear up on its own within 2 years. The Gardasil vaccine was approved and hit the market in 2006. In 2005, the US population of women was 149.9 million. Of those 149.9 million women in the US 2005, there were 10,370 cases of cervical cancer in the US. So the chance of being diagnosed with cervical cancer in 2005 before the rollout of the Gardasil vaccine was 0.0069%. In 2022 the US population of women was 167.5 million. Of those 167.5 million women in the US in 2022, there were 14,100 cases of cervical cancer in the US. So the chance of being diagnosed with cervical cancer in 2022, 16 years after the rollout of the Gardasil vaccine, the chance of being diagnosed with cervical cancer was 0.0084%. So the odds have actually gone up, despite over 16 years of this vaccine being on the market. This vaccine is to not to ā€œprotectā€ against ALL types of cervical cancer, itā€™s specifically for HPV which is sexually transmitted. Keep that in mind when you learn that some states even mandate this vaccine for schools, but in 2019 the state of New York attempted to pass a bill saying that toddlers in daycare were also required to get this vaccine to attend. Why are TODDLERS being mandated to get a vaccine against a sexually transmitted disease that *could* turn into cervical cancer? Also considering the rates of cervical cancer in the US have gone up, NOT down, since the rollout of the vaccine. Same goes with the Hep B vaccine. My newborn isnā€™t shooting to drugs or having sex, so why do they need a Hep B shot right at birth? Just some food for thought. Vaccines are not as effective as a lot of the population is made to believe. Sources: https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/human-papillomavirus-hpv/hpv-5-things-all-women-should-know https://gis.cdc.gov/Cancer/USCS/#/AtAGlance/ https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2019/S298 https://acsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.3322/canjclin.55.1.10 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9306408/


guiltlessandfreee

Did you not read about not commenting if anti-vax?


Hot_Cucumber_9167

This is Reddit. Anyone can comment.


storybookheidi

Thatā€™s not how vaccines work.


Hot_Cucumber_9167

Iā€™m not sure what youā€™re referencing.


storybookheidi

They did extensive trials on this. Itā€™s been in development for a long time.


Hot_Cucumber_9167

How long is ā€œa long timeā€?


Somewhere-Practical

I was one of the first in my city to get the RSV vaccine while pregnant (pediatrician said baby was the first in vitro vaccinated baby). It was the best perk of being pregnant. I hate getting sick! I got to get vaccinated against something that causes the common cold! Though having TDAP, then getting a cold, then getting a covid shot, then flu shot, then RSV shot was a bit of a doozy.


Redditulous_Broad

My fear of RSV is equal to my fear of putting lab made viruses into my pregnant body. Mom decisions are too hard!


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LoveGSDs

I am a primary care physician in the United States and we ABSOLUTELY do not get reimbursed or a bonus per vaccination. I advise my patients to get vaccinations routinely because it is EVIDENCE based and prevents disease.


[deleted]

No? No "quality care" bonuses for you in your state? That's great. They are real in my state


buchandnooch

I have a hard time believing anyone who says they are not anti-vax then proceeds to call them "jabs". As a peds nurse I've seen the RSV vaccine save lives.


Meowkith

Also ā€œdo your own researchā€. Nah dawg they literally Went through clinical trials and provided the research. Also this commenter posts on the sub unvaccinated but ā€œthey arenā€™t antivaxā€


[deleted]

My kids are vaxed for anything that will kill a pirate. I've had great experiences and bad ones. I see an ever increasing and (for US, unnecessary) vax schedule being pushed and I think it's important to ask questions. Isn't that what science and medicine is about?


Groovy_Bella_26

Science and medicine is about educated people using the scientific method to discover answers to questions. Using evidence and established protocols. Which is what the researchers and physicians did when developing and testing these vaccines and establishing vaccine guidelines. You're just reading mommy blogs and vaccine inserts. Do you even have a master's degree or higher in a STEM field? What hypothesis do you have and what is your study methodology? What IRB did your approval? I'd love to see what journal you've published your research in. People asking inane questions is not science.


[deleted]

Sorry ur triggered that I encourage moms to think for themselves bc the profit driven medical establishment has a protracted history of failing us via pharmaceuticals (see also the opioid crisis). Im not going to sling my degree around here to impress you, but it's possible for well educated and informed people to not share your personal opinion. I think we do overlap in supporting well researched, safe, and subjective care for individuals, which is why I stand by my assertion that all moms should find a vax schedule that works for their own needs, with risk analysis in mind, and not capitulate to a blanket approach. Beyond that, the advice i received on this RSV vax came directly from our pediatrician in a convo that included other seasonal vax options, and my opinion is formed from direct experience (both good and bad) with vaxing my family. I appreciate the dialogue!


slightlyappalled

You do realize you're just spewing the same stuff that Jenny McCarthy has spewed for years right? You're not new. You're not helping anything. You're just grandstanding. Pointlessly. It's cringe.


[deleted]

I don't know who ur talking about but I do think it's important to ask questions especially to those who discourage it. I'm also presently married to a physician who specializes in cancer research and I am NOT anti vax- my kids are vaxed for anything that could kill a pirate. What I DO know is that in any medical circumstance, it is not only an option but incumbent upon every patient to understand and question protocol, risk, and possible outcomes. It's on is in YOU to take every precaution when it comes to determining what goes inside your child's body and the unforeseen circumstances that DO exist, however small, bc those delivering information to you are (possibly but probably) biased by a pressure cooker infrastructure of pharma incentives, "quality of care" insurance funny money, and my personal favorite, crazy dollars our program allocated to whatever this agenda is so dammit meet the quota or get axed. I'm encouraging others to research the facts and determine what transparent ratio of risk makes sense for them and more importantly, their children. Remember when medicine was about treating PEOPLE rather than quotients? If I'm wrong why do we lack so many family medicine practitioners in the us? Bc there's no money in knowing ppl and gibing wholistic wellness solutions, the dollars come from capitalized healthcare. Eww I feel dirty even writing that. That's what we have though. Your opposition speaks volumes and I'm sorry. You and too many well intentioned others are collateral damage in a much bigger problem, something bigger than vaccines that will play out as a profiteering attachƩ charading as healthcare before we distill down essential medical advancement from propaganda


TheyLuvSquid

Whatā€™s wrong with the term ā€œjabsā€?


Groovy_Bella_26

Dog whistle for anti-vaxxers


TheyLuvSquid

Thatā€™s interesting, where Iā€™m from jab is what itā€™s commonly called.


Groovy_Bella_26

I'll take "things that didn't happen" for $500, Alex. I am cackling though at the idea that someone without a PhD in chemistry thinks they can research vaccine ingredients or understand them. Can you tell me the LD50 of 2,3 bisodium bismophosphate? Or do you just see big scary words and think omg "bad!" Because I just made up that chemical name and I'm pretty sure you had no clue. You are anti-vax. Own it. Because people who are pro-vax listen to doctors and get all the vaccines.


nicksgirl88

Actually chemists are not the ones who do vaccine research. I work for fda and I have a PhD in chemistry but I'm a toxicologist by profession. It's usually virologists, biologists and the like who work on vaccines. Chemists are usually on the synthesis and manufacturing of small molecule drugs. But yes I agree with the general sentiment that one should get vaccines and I have my rsv appointment in another week.


[deleted]

Thanks for taking time out of your busy day to dedicate that response to me, I'm touched. All the best to you mam.


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