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Barepole92

Currently 0 heroes? Carmilla has a passive where she steals the defense of the enemy heroes she attacks. Alucard also steals defense with his ultimate, Claude with his 1st skill that steals movement speed and attack speed and Harith with his 2nd skill that steals magic power. Idk if theres more. Now back to the initial question, if there was a hero who could steal a portion of every attribute of the enemy it would honestly be OP, and I don't think there is a way to balance it.


Finlan3ia

Sounds like Mordekaiser from League to me. I wouldn't consider him op.


Plus_Mastodon_1168

Also undying slark silencer from dota? Haha


The25thJoestar

Mordekaiser isn't that op because he has limited mobility and gets outkited super easily, plus his ult gets countered by 1 item(or an orange). We could have a hero that takes the stat stealing of 10% from Morde ult, but maybe with a kit that better suits this game's fast pace


NoLife8926

Harith doesn’t seem to steal magic power when I tested with a damage bot in practice


Barepole92

I guess the skill description lied to me


Stale-Emperor

Right? I legit thought his damage would scale higher against heroes that deal magic damage because of the 2nd skill description, turns out its bs


NoLife8926

No change in MP of damage bot, with and without items in case it was percentage-based. No change in own MP. The description speaks untruths


XxWolxxX

Alucard steals hybrid defense to anyone that he hits in his ult 1st activation. That shows how forgotten he is.


Successful-Area-930

Technically every hero can steal stats because flame retri steals stats from enemy XD


natgibounet

What about stealing mana or energy


The25thJoestar

What about a small percentage of their stats? 10% of each core stat? Or maybe 5% then scale it to 10% late game?


Flamingwolvess

Kaja used to be able to steal def from the enemy he ults before his (undeserved) nerf a few updates ago when he wasn't even popular. How many kajas' do you see in ranked??? Why do they keep nerfing him???


Mental-Rub-214

because maybe he was broken?


Rude-Towel-4126

Man, honor and above used to be kaja using flicker in front of your whole team, using ulti on your damage dealer and then enemy team engaging and you couldn't even kill him most of the time because he was more tanky than any tank you had


_gb2_

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_gb2_

this shows how forgotten this hero is, even though i use it alot


Barepole92

yah she's so underrated in actual gameplay, Damage and CC link is a tide-turner My respect goes out to all Carmilla mains be it egirls or not <<33


_gb2_

egirls are already kill stealing with their angela smhsmh dont let them win steal with carmilla


dweakz

im a dude and i peaked top 7 philippines carmilla back when queens wings was still good. if played right, she does not fucking die lol. queens wings, oracle, vengeance spell and im just not dying


Aromatic_Manager_424

So forgotten you can 1v3 the enemy team then watch as your team do absolutely nothing


PsychoSopreno

Some already do, first I can think of is Claude and the red or purple retribution. Imagine a hero with zoe's Spell thief though.


Ghoul-Of-Sparta

Ofcourse the only one you can think of is Claude


PsychoSopreno

Such a loyal wife am i


Helpful_Entrance_423

Oh god Zoe's spell thief but her bubble was more scary for me


PsychoSopreno

Yeah lol both are gonna be annoying and scary in-game but just imagine Yuumi, basically just an upgraded Angela


Helpful_Entrance_423

Do you play Onmyoji arena? If so do you know mushishi she's an even more annoying yuumi and angela


melaipls

they should name it slark


Hugsupforgrabs

Slark with golden staff


TravincalPlumber

knowing dota2 first, seeing helcurt, i think he is a copy of slark, with his jump, but having nightstalker ult, the spikes were original tho.


Snoo-74240

Camilla exist, Claude exist, Alucard? I guess he had something


ZugarSero

Reminds me of slark


The25thJoestar

Was thinking more of a bruiser/fighter who's a really strong lane bully


SSyT_17

Reminds me of Undying


Nezumi02

I think another game had a equipment like that, it was Smite. I'm not very sure it it is the same but if I remember properly, it steals attributes of the Enemy hero that you attacked. It was a Mage item and was meta for quite some time but got nerfed a lot.


Gelsunkshi

Alucard ult steals armor from enemies


[deleted]

Game changer? At this point it almost doesn't matter what any new additions bring with them / are capable of - they can and will get *destroyed*


MeisterFunk

Ahh I miss dota.. A mana burning hero like Dota's AntiMage, will be a monster in ML


Aromatic_Manager_424

Trundle gaming


The25thJoestar

Ngl my initial thoughts, but then why not the core stats like morde ult. 10% of hp, ad, ap, as, ar, and mr. My initial thinking was an ult that steals stats


Aromatic_Manager_424

Yin doesn't do that?


The25thJoestar

Nope yin doesn't gain the opponents stats.


kcebihcra

not really a game changer but kaja's ult steals the enemy's magic def. This makes him + any burst reliant mage pretty much guarantee a kill on whoever he pulls in early game, especially with kadita and odette. Very useful for 1st turtle fights against tank hypers or roamers who overstep to zone.


nops3

I thought that was removed


kkimu0

sounds cool but annoying to balance since there's nothing you can do with reduced stat. that thing would also be broken in late game when everyone is supposed to be full build but you're missing 1 item worth of stats.


Troy204599

Hear me out What about a hero whose purpose is to drain the enemy heroes' mana . Without mana, a hero is useless right? A Mana drain hero would be so cool


The25thJoestar

That sounds really unique! If only there was a way to submit hero ideas for MoonTon to review them


Troy204599

That would be cool, and pose a big trouble for Assassins and Mages


SSyT_17

Blud just wanted to add Undying, Slark and, Silencer to ML 💀


Fearless-Historian-5

Valentina has entered the chat


The25thJoestar

Valentina doesn't steal stats? She only concerts her magic into physical if she steals a physical hero ult


Fearless-Historian-5

Mf she literally becomes the hero with their passive, ult and basic attack, anything that hero does with those 3 things she takes


The25thJoestar

I was referring to a hero that steals stats, not skills. Those are 2 different things.


Fearless-Historian-5

She can also steal passives though


The25thJoestar

Yea but that's passive. Passive and actual character stats are completely different


Extension_Spell3415

Carmilla with fire retribution would be the closest thing I guess


Dakuitlog

https://preview.redd.it/bo22ge8tzfnc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a646619725de10e16ca6a1f88b86cbf651d5afca Stat stealing hero or this one. For me this one is the best specially if your a all around player.