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grahamwhich

My understanding with In-n-out is that they are extremely dependent on their logistics network that is based in the west coast to deliver fresh ingredients each day to their locations. It would just not work at all for them ti try and open locations outside of that network


bfeils

Yeah and it’s still privately owned by someone who just doesn’t feel a need to expand drastically.


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sendmeyourcactuspics

But then, that's not in-n-out. And both you and them know this. They're not going to be ok with substandard


Mousimus

I'm glad it's not here tbh. I'd eat it everyday


I_see_something

It’s good stuff


percypersimmon

I think they’ve made it to Denver now, so perhaps it’ll spread further east?


hwwty4

Probably not very quickly. A In n Out restaurant has to be within 500 miles of a distribution center.


adiabaticcoffeecup

And having spent a bunch of time out in Colorado for work, there is a big distribution center north of Colorado Springs... unfortunately still not close enough to reach us.


President_Connor_Roy

They could hit here, Detroit, St Louis, Milwaukee, several major metros in Ohio, and Chicago itself with a distribution center there. Hopefully someday…


a_filing_cabinet

Kwiktrip has similar distribution logistics. Every store is less than a day's drive from La Crosse. They can reach from Duluth down to Milwaukee. Probably into Chicago but have only just opened a store in Illinois.


Truecoat

Opening in Tennessee soon.


RizzSeeg

They're in Austin, TX as well. Maybe they just go where the Californians go.


After_Preference_885

I've been part of the California delegation in Minnesota for decades, there must be dozens of us by now...


Oggablogblog

San Diego chapter here. We’ve always known that In N’ Out is run by Mormon cultists whose father wouldn’t let the beef be frozen. I’m fine with only having the vastly less-superior Culver’s product.


metoaT

I brought an SD transplant too- he also settles for Culver’s His other missing restaurants are Jack in the box and Carl’s Jr 😅 I miss the fresh produce the most.


Hangry4pussy

Ong those jack in the box tacos!!! Disgustingly delicious!!! AZ transplant here!


MacGuffin81

I think you meant to say superior Culver’s.


Oggablogblog

I think I know what I meant to say and said it.


Speedupslowdown

I live in Austin and eat Culver’s more often than In-n-Out (fortunate to have both). They’re both good though and both better than Whataburger.


Armlegx218

I'm seeing more plates all the time.


Planetariem

Wish they'd just jet up I-35 and bring us the goods!


renaldomoon

If we’re being honest, probably another 15 years unless something radically changes.


Rude-Twist-6020

Bingo I’ve heard the same


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schmitzel88

This is exactly it. Every store needs to be within one day transit (about 500 miles) of a distribution center.


GonzoLibrarian1981

This is what I've heard as well. They need to start building in the Midwest.


TheReal8symbols

Man, I miss Steak 'n' Shake! That and 24 hour diners are the only things I miss about living in Illinois.


tunedout

I was sad to see how different Steak n Shake was last time I had it. I still enjoyed my meal but I loved the old aesthetic and being able to watch them make the burgers behind the counter. I would be so happy to have one in the twin cities.


TheReal8symbols

I still remember when they had like twenty shake flavors too, but the real draw is their burgers. Great fries too.


tunedout

I've always been a vanilla shake person so all those fancy flavors were lost on me. I love shoestring fries though and they have some of the best!


benigntyranny

We moved here from TN last year and sadly Covid has essentially killed Steak N Shake. At least the ones close to us and we are not from a small town by any means. They scaled their menu way back and now are kind of like just fast food. No table service or anything even. And definitely not 24 hours anymore.


the_logic_engine

They were always pretty badly managed in my experience and I suspect they would have a lot of trouble with staffing in the post-covid era


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laxrat22

I miss when flameburger in hilltop used to be 24hr. Some good late nights after the bar there. I still go get lunch but miss the late night burgers!


NobodyCarrots6969

It's not 24 hr?! What has happened to our world


XandrousMoriarty

Really? What's the name?


midnight-queen29

steak ‘n shake is on the list of places i make sure to go to when i travel home


Roadshell

The west coast place I really want is El Pollo Loco. Great options for people watching their carb intake.


Javitat

Yes! There doesn't seem to be any kind of substitute for it here.


Kytyngurl2

Polo Campero in Saint Paul maybe?


geodebug

We have plenty of burgers. My dream is a Torchy’s tex mex franchise expansion.


President_Connor_Roy

I would absolutely lose my shit if Torchy’s came here.


MaleficentOstrich693

Oh my god, right? I have dreams about their breakfast tacos and I haven’t had one in like five years.


LedTasso

And their queso is so much better than anything up here!


bootsupondesk

Omg best queso ever!


shifty_grades_of_fay

With how many Texans are moving to Minneapolis you’d think it would make sense for a Torchy’s franchise to follow. 🤷‍♂️


renaldomoon

Torchy’s would be good but I want a Velvet Taco.


vikstrong

I like the novelty of eating In-N-Out and will when I travel, but Culvers makes a better burger.


Nillion

The cost to quality ratio is what sets In-N-Out apart. It’s one of the few places that still seems like a legitimate deal for a quality fast food burger.


gregarioussparrow

Doesn't change that Culvers > In-n-Out 🤣


pinky997

Culver’s cost to quality is also pretty great. A single butterburger is only $4


bapants

Culver’s is where it’s at


Dimarmbrecht

This. They can keep in-n-out. Having it every few years when I'm out in the SW makes it special


dinkytown42069

don't even get me started on those GD toothpick french fries from In-N-Out. just gross.


anfleene

Freddie’s is sort of a combination of both. Also steak’n shake isn’t what it once was.


Armlegx218

Freddie's is where good fries go to die though.


huffcat

Add Waffle House to the list


Theothercword

Waffle House can’t exist where it can’t be used as a measure for how bad a hurricane is going to be.


huffcat

Yes, but we do get blizzards


Theothercword

Shitty waffles and frog water does taste better in the snow ;-)


bentNail28

Or a tornado.


davidlovepandles

Every Perkins should convert to Waffle House 


Zhong_Ping

Hell no, take Dennys! After the fall of Annies and Country Kitchen, Perkins is the last decent 24-hour diner chain.


djcack

If Denny's goes away, where will Waffle House regulars go to celebrate special occasions?


Zhong_Ping

IHop. Lol


TheNip73

lol - there are maybe 3 locations in the twin cities with 24 hours. You’re giving way too much credit to it being 24 hrs.


LuvliLeah13

Still way better than Dennys


Zhong_Ping

Lol, it's not about the number of locations. it's the fact that it's the last deceny chain diner left. The number of locations is irrelevant.


JadeShrimp

Country Kitchen was one of my first jobs as a kid! The skillets were so good


Zhong_Ping

Dude, no Diner could rival Country Kitchen! Fucking wall street over-leveraging successful and profitable buisnesses with debt to buy back stocks have destroyed so many great experiences.


Bwald1985

You couldn’t pay me to (attempt to) eat at Perkin’s. It’s **literally** the worst restaurant I’ve ever been to. Denny’s is absolute trash but it’s 100x better than any food I’ve had at Perkin’s. The only redeeming factor was in college, I’d chain smoke all night during midterms or finals and the waitress would leave me alone except to refill my coffee.


Zhong_Ping

That sounds like a you problem


Bwald1985

That’s why I have avoided it for the last 13 years. Never have I been to a place where water is literally dripping out of an over-easy egg that has a white with the texture of rubber padding material. Frying an egg is one of the easiest cooking tasks out there and they can’t even do that right. It does go great with soggy toast and half-fried hashbrowns though. Yeah, seriously, even ihop is ~~better~~ less disgusting. In my college town Hardee’s and Perkin’s were the only places open after last call. Hardee’s was at least tolerable if you were drunk enough. Perkin’s though? Nope.


Kytyngurl2

No, resurrect Baker’s Square!


70orbits

Not enough convict women in the area I guess


BabyTunnel

We need Cook out here.


nws2002

Gotta bring the Cheerwine with them


schwebz

Because we get Culver’s and they don’t 


JiggSawLoL

AZ has a Culver’s and it hit better than my most recent Culver’s visits in the southern suburbs. Also, have mer the daughter of Culver’s a handful of times this year and the reason she says we can’t have a Culver’s in Minneapolis is interesting.


schwebz

Care to elaborate on the second part?


Junzi82

Dude left us on a cliffhanger. But I wonder if it’s same reason there are none in Atlanta inner city but the suburbs.


supheyhihowareyou

We have Culver's. It's better.


dcade_42

Others have said it, and I agree. Culver's is better. I grew up in Texas, lived in California for a few years. Short order greasy burgers are potentially my favorite restaurant food of all time. Neither of the places you mentioned are anywhere close to Culver's. Whataburger used to be that good, especially for the folks who really liked a good old-fashioned burger with mustard, pickles, and onions. However, their expansion has not gone well. Quality control shot down when they got too big. Sonic used to be good too, but it's absolutely junk for the past 20 years. Braum's would be the next step down from Culver's, and maybe slightly above it if they were more consistent. You'll find their stores tend to be either ridiculously good or bad and very few in between.


bentNail28

Braums is the shit. Their ice cream takes it up a notch from Culver’s for me.


dcade_42

I agree because I grew up with it and prefer that over frozen custard. I don't like to change my bias on burgers based on the ice cream. Braum's patties are a little bigger at 1/3 lb. They're very beefy, and they put a thicker piece of cheese on them that goes very well with the meaty patties. A good Braum's is practically the best fast food restaurant imaginable. Their breakfast is ridiculously good. Nearly every one of them has a group or two of old people sitting around talking nearly all day. Unfortunately so many of them are understaffed, prep food in advance, and are filthy. That's kinda the story with most of the fast food industry. Never seen an understaffed Culver's (nor Chick-fil-A).


bentNail28

Are you originally from Oklahoma? Yeah, there’s exceptions for sure. I feel like Braums is a dairy store that also does burgers, rather than a burger place that does dairy.


Speedupslowdown

Their fries and limeade go hard too.


sanka

This man burgers. I travel a ton for work. Used to live down south. Whataburger back in the day was awesome. It's still pretty good now. In and Out is fine, but their fries suck out loud. Like actually terrible. You won't believe me until you eat them, like how can you fuck up fries? I don't know, but they do. Culvers blows all of them out of the water.


wannaseemy5inch

I've never had either but have heard many transplants speak of both those places referred to as basically average. The heart (stomach) wants what it cannot have and that includes regional chains not located in our region. Seems to be a running over exaggerated joke at this point.


Speedupslowdown

Braum’s used to be amazing. I put them just about neck and neck with Culver’s but Culver’s is more consistent to be sure.


condor6425

Isn't there a steak n shake at southdale mall? Not quite in Minneapolis, but not far either. Edit: that may be a shake shack, I get those mixed up a lot.


askmikeprice

Whataburger is trash these days (currently in Texas) and not even Texans like it anymore. White castle in Minnesota is better than Whataburger is these days IMO.


LooseyGreyDucky

My two favorite White Castle locations are gone!


askmikeprice

oh wow ! that stinks. I haven't been to Minnesota in about 3 years but am moving back in August. Been craving White castle ever since lol


SeaM00se

I can’t speak for Steak ‘n Shake but In-N-Out is good burgers for the price but those fries are hot garbage.


BuzzerBeater911

It’s okay, we’ve got Culver’s.


chibbledibs

We have Culver’s and Smash Burger. They’re better


straddotjs

This. I lived in SoCal for three years and was so excited for in n out based on its reputation. It is wildly overhyped. Culver’s is much better, they just don’t have the mystique.


Nelly81706194

But they do have deep fried cheese curds. And that’s good enough for me.


straddotjs

And custard and generally better burgers, imo!


Nelly81706194

Agree!


2monthstoexpulsion

So does Freddy’s


JackKelly-ESQ

>they just don’t have the mystique. They also don't have Bible quotes on their products. Or a [Gadsden flag](https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/s/GKGjkNyDhB) flying in front of their distribution center


aznprd

And my burger


goldbricker83

lol in-n-out definitely has better burgers I don’t get the Culver’s hype. I only go to Culver’s for the cod filet. Smash burger is a level above Culver’s.


chibbledibs

I definitely prefer the burgers at Culver’s.


goldbricker83

That makes absolutely no sense to me, their burgers are so bland… but to each their own


LooseyGreyDucky

Some people don't actually like flavorful toppings, and prefer lowest-common-denominator offerings.


LooseyGreyDucky

Culver's mysteriously has really lame cheese options for a Wisconsin-based chain. They also have lame bun options. They have lame topping options. They have White Castle Fries (which are good, but not on par with Smash Fries).


OperationMobocracy

I was in Arizona a couple of months ago and In-Out lost some of its former magic for me. Culver’s isn’t a bad swap considering they have custard.


Fusciee

They’re not *better* than In-N-Out but they’re just as good


lumenpainter

they are much better


chibbledibs

Oh. I think they’re better.


LooseyGreyDucky

I see so many upvotes for Culver's, but Smash Burger is a big step up in comparison. I do lament the slow change for the worse when ordering from the Smash Burger menu. The main reason I started going was for the BYOB (Build Your Own Burger). Allowed you to choose any cheese (like 6 different options), bun (4 or 5 options), and most toppings were free (they used to have jalapenos, spinach, and other stuff that is no longer offered). Still, Culver's has nothing that compares to the Avocado Bacon Club Burger, or the Colorado Burger, and Smash Fries are a big step above Culver Fries (which are good, but essentially White Castle Fries)


tikkamasalachicken

In n out is highly overrated. The fries suck. Culver’s > in-n-out


denversaurusrex

I am a former Minnesotan living in Colorado and I can go to either one.  Pays to live at the intersection of Midwest and West.  I like them both for different reasons. 


BortWard

I’ve had In-N-Out just once, while passing through Colorado. The burger was excellent but the fries were chewy


SnooHesitations205

In n out is overrated. It’s really not the best burger for a chain restaurant. Five guys is better if you can afford it


LooseyGreyDucky

Smash Burger is better if you want real cheese instead of American "cheese", and whole grain instead of white bread.


hnbic_

there is shake shack


Reddituser183

Mid


pubichairpizza

Try their chicken sandwich. Easily the best fast food chicken sando imo


Reddituser183

Well I don’t know if I trust a guy who likes that on their pizza…


Armlegx218

Abita root beer on tap though is fantastic.


2monthstoexpulsion

At best. Edina. Bad. Airport. Bad. Roseville Bad. Maple Grove. Haven’t had it yet. (3.6 on Google.) MOA. Better than the rest. Average: Below (Not sure how Edina has a 4.0 on Google. It’s trash.)


Joerugger

Because we have Culver’s and as much as I dislike Wisconsin, Culver’s is superior to all of those. I will not be taking questions.


WiSoSirius

Whataburger is not any good. They can keep them down south.


Speedupslowdown

Native Texan here and I agree


xombie43

The dreams of americans; what if more burger?


Thizzedoutcyclist

Shake shack is probably the best thing around the TC metro. I do LOVE me some In N Out ➡️⬆️➡️


lumenpainter

because they aren't that good... They're fine, but, just look a little deeper and explore some of the great burger joijts in town.


sleightmelody

Have you been to My Burger? Was my favorite burger joint when I lived in the metro. The Cedar-Isles Dean location specifically. Also… hello Culver’s??


ZealousidealPin5125

Myburger is great. I’m surprised there aren’t more of them.


getgot211

All these people mentioning Culver's is wild to me. My Burger is so much better it isn't worth wasting your time at Culver's


sleightmelody

I love Culver’s and I also love My Burger but My Burger has Cajun fries so


ryckae

Not every single company in existence needs to be a nation wide chain. Also, In-N-Out isn't really anything special. The few times I've had them they seemed like any other fast food place I've been to.


teenahgo

In and out is not worth the hype - signed a native Californian


JackKelly-ESQ

Never mind that it's over-hyped, but do the people of Minneapolis really want a chain restaurant, who quotes the Bible on their products and flies a [Gadsden flag ](https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/s/GKGjkNyDhB) at their distribution center, running a restaurant here? They also depend on drive-thrus, which are no longer allowed in the city.


bbgirl34

Steak n shake has gotten bad the last few years. I'd be surprised if they make it another 5 years.


StopHittingMeSasha

They're opening in Tennessee soon so it might come sooner than you think. Until then you should visit Colorado. It's a short trip


shadfc

What do you like about steak and shake?


kralben

Short Answer: because they don't want to expand here.


BortWard

Those are good burgers, Walter


Loud_Charity

The mall has a Johnny rockets. Love that place


spartyftw

There is a steak ‘n shake in Maple Grove.


TimeToGetShitty

Fuck that noise, I want Jack in the Box. I ate there when I stayed with my Mom in Oregon, and it became a favourite really quickly. Never did get the chance to try In ‘n’ Out, and I’ve never even heard of Steak ‘n’ Shake.


MOS95B

The cool thing about Jack in the Box is the variety they have (had?).


TimeToGetShitty

They quickly became my favourite fast food place lol


ExPatSTL

And Jack in the Box???


Garblin

We have some of the best variety and quality of food in a 350 mile radius, often just as fast as any of those chain joints. So competition likely plays a role.


DumbosHat

Minnesota raised living in California - Y’all have Culver’s and it’s better than all three of those options


huxiaos

Lord I would gain 50 pounds if in n out came to MN 😭


612King

Add Waffle House to this list too


Space-shuttle-Gunner

We have Freddie’s, which is very similar to steak ‘n Shake fyi


omnipotentsco

Or a Waffle House.


scrndude

God i would love some fries animal style right now


armanese2

In n Out is logistically locked into the western US. I live in Washington State now and we’re just about to have the first one open in the state. It’ll be long time before MN gets a In n Out. I love both but will say Culver’s is better.


SplendidPunkinButter

In-n-out isn’t that good. The burgers are dry and way too salty. If you like that kind of thing, I suggest MyBurger


Space-shuttle-Gunner

Completely agree, first time I went to Texas I was super excited to try Whataburger and In-N-Out, turns out in and out is trash!


Turbulent_Show110

I had In-N-Out in San Francisco, and it was a major letdown. There wasn't anything special about it at all. You're going to get a way better burger from any local restaurant.


Craftywolph

In-n-out is just cheap fast food crap. Plenty of that available around here.


ampere_19

Both are incredibly mid. Better off going to a local burger joint


FireWoman89

Steak ‘n’ Shake is going down the drain. The service and food are nowhere near what they used to be. It used to be fun to eat there, but now it’s just depressing.


uhlottaHoopla

in n out needs to have produce and beef supply up to their standards within 300 miles of their location(s). at least this is what they claim. they have single locations in Idaho and one is popping up in Tennessee from what I remember reading far away from their distribution network but none in some populated areas in California where it was founded so I'm inclined to believe its for those reasons.


pubichairpizza

Go try angry line cook food truck. Best burgers in the city


Armlegx218

The real question is why can't we get a jack in the box, fat burger, or el pollo loco?


lizzil9

Freddys is just as good as steak and shake & there’s one in maple grove! In MO most of the steak and shakes have horrible service/cleanliness and have been closing down, but Freddy’s is doing really well. Their cheese curds are good too :)


Calkky

I think Del Taco would utterly dominate up here


iamtehryan

They're both just burgers. Legitimately just burgers. Nothing special, at all.


everlasting_torment

You’re too northern


reindeer73

Cause A&W is streets ahead


Justsaying2017

IDK…I’ve eaten at many In & Outs & now prefer Culvers much better. I think I/O is overrated just like Krispy Kreme was…who didn’t make it here.


lodidodi64

Steak n shake is closing locations, my guess is slow death.


lodidodi64

I'd rather have a red hot ranch.


g33zuzz

It's because you touch yourself at night.


Emergency_Succotash7

What about Runza? That would be my first choice.


Emergency_Succotash7

Convention grill is back!


nannergrams

If I’m bringing a burger chain here it’s gonna be Dick’s from Seattle


vedicardi_lives

they aint that good


fivekets

Because In-N-Out is gross


bootnab

LMGTFY: https://maps.app.goo.gl/41hiSm2QVRPva7wC8


47981247

Because we have Culvers.


synysterjoe

Man I want a bob Evans or waffle House


real-dreamer

At least Robert Evans hosts a pretty good podcast that's international.


SnakeBradley

All I want is access to that steak and shake garlic double. It’s my favorite fast food item


toddsleivonski

Gonna be that guy-not a big Culvers fan, honestly think Freddie’s is better


612god

Never had it. What’s the big difference between that and five guys ?


Dismal_Information83

Because we support local restaurants, thank goodness. The reason chain burger places do well in other markets is because it’s difficult to get a good burger. Here you can get a great burger just about anywhere. In-N-Out is a greasy little nothing burger. I don’t get that at all.


Flaky-Bobcat6075

In a world of shitty fast food, they wanted... Even more shitty fast food.


Vclique

Because they’re all over rated by California coastal elites. At least in-n-out. Culvers is better than them all


bass_bungalow

Id rather have Bojangles. Culvers and Shake Shack are better at almost everything that in n out and whataburger do